History Headscratchers / Clannad

* How come we never see Nagisa and Tomoya doing the deed ? I know it's it's at the G rating, [[BleachedUnderpants but this is Key we are talking about]], the other Seasonverse games have H-scenes, so why not Clannad? They even had both a clean and unclean version of both ''VisualNovel/{{Air}}'' and ''VisualNovel/{{Kanon}}''. I know this is a stupid question and the obvious anwsers are either "They can't get away with sex" and "[[{{Rule34}} Let the fans draw it then]]", but it must be said.

* And back to Sunohara getting unfairly treated: Episode 16 of After Story. Sunohara and the others ([[BrotherChuck except Tomoyo]]) go visit Tomoya and Nagisa to celebrate New Year. Sunohara calls Tomoya "Okazaki", as he's ''always'' done. Both Tomoya and Nagisa reply, even though he always calls Nagisa for her ''first'' name (And with honorific, something Tomoya doesn't gets). Thusly Kyou chastises... Sunohara, since both are "Okazaki" now. Even though he did his normal thing and Nagisa was the dumb one for replying when he's never called her for her last name. It's even worse when you consider Tomoya calls Kyou for her first name and Ryou for her last name, yet Kyou ''never'' gets confused, even though it's the same thing. So, basically, Kyou is a hypocrite, Sunohara [[CosmicPlaything gets punished for doing things right]] and Nagisa ''never'' makes mistakes, even when she does (Then again, two episodes before she couldn't see through her dad's PaperThinDisguise... And in the previous one she couldn't think of names based on hers except "Nagisako" and "Nagisami"... The brightest crayon in the box she ain't.). And yes, I [[MST3KMantra shouldn't think this THAT much]], but still...

* Episode 15 of After Story: So Nagisa is pregnant, and we all know giving birth isn't easy for the mother, especially if they're DelicateAndSickly with a frail body, which can lead to [[DeathByChildbirth bad things]]. We all got this? Good. Then just WHY did Nagisa decide to give birth in her house (Itself fairly strange, but whatever), and what is worse, [[IdiotPlot why didn't Tomoya, her parents, or ANYONE realize how bad an idea this was]]? Did they forget how (for example) half the previous episode was about how hard it was for Nagisa to find a job due to her illness? I mean, this isn't a petty little detail, she's been ill since she was born. Did {{IdiotBall}}s rain the night before or what? And when she finally changes her mind, they just mention it by passing (So they could set the DeusAngstMachina I guess), as if it was a minor thing. Great.

* Episode 15 of After Story: So Nagisa is pregnant, and we all know giving birth isn't easy for the mother, especially if they're an IllGirl with a frail body, which can lead to [[DeathByChildbirth bad things]]. We all got this? Good. Then just WHY did Nagisa decide to give birth in her house (Itself fairly strange, but whatever), and what is worse, [[IdiotPlot why didn't Tomoya, her parents, or ANYONE realize how bad an idea this was]]? Did they forget how (for example) half the previous episode was about how hard it was for Nagisa to find a job due to her illness? I mean, this isn't a petty little detail, she's been ill since she was born. Did {{IdiotBall}}s rain the night before or what? And when she finally changes her mind, they just mention it by passing (So they could set the DeusAngstMachina I guess), as if it was a minor thing. Great.

* The way Kyou and Fuuko's names are written on the OP. The former uses a more literal romanization style, the latter uses an older one, causing her to get referred as "Fuko" by subs, fans, and just about everyone else. Which [[BerserkButton makes me angry]]. [[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk You don't want to see me angry]]. Er, seriously anyway, can't they be consistent? I wouldn't mind it TOO much if it was "Kyo" and "Fuko", even though I'd prefer "Kyou" and "Fuuko", but man... mixing two styles just doesn't looks right.

** Sunohara actually has blond hair. The rest have various shades of black hair, but as in YouGottaHaveBlueHair, hair colors can be used for personality or just to set them apart. Usually wild hair colors are just shorthand to tell characters apart.

** The entire house wasn't a mess, at least not while Tomoya was still living there. It wasn't until after he moved out that it really became a sty. Either Tomoya was the primary house keeper, or his father just stopped giving a shit after his son left.

*** This is a bit of fun I was milling about since I just got through watching this: If that Hospital that was built on the spot Akio prayed for Nagisa's health was built just a bit sooner, instead of completing construction sometime between her death and the 5 year time skip that hospital could of probably of saved her life. I mean it is implied to be walking distance from either of their houses. Granted this is all some wishful thinking on my part and I suppose it works out in the end but still, food for thought.

* How come we never see Nagisa and Tomoya doing the deed ? I know it's it's at the G rating, [[BleachedUnderpants but this is Key we are talking about]], the other Seasonverse games have H-scenes, so why not Clannad? They even had both a clean and unclean version of both ''VisualNovel/{{Air}}'' and ''VisualNovel/{{Kanon}}''. I know this is a stupid question and the obvious anwsers are either "[[GettingCrapPastTheRadar They can't get away with sex]]" and "[[{{Rule34}} Let the fans draw it then]]", but it must be said.

* The way Kyou and Fuuko's names are written on the OP. The former uses a more literal romanization style, the latter uses an older one, causing her to get referred as "Fuko" by subs, fans, and just about everyone else. Which [[BerserkButton makes me angry]]. [[TheHulk You don't want to see me angry]]. Er, seriously anyway, can't they be consistent? I wouldn't mind it TOO much if it was "Kyo" and "Fuko", even though I'd prefer "Kyou" and "Fuuko", but man... mixing two styles just doesn't looks right.

*** Well, neither Tomoyo nor Yukine were members. Yukine was just someone they talked to from time to time, and Tomoyo was student council president. And besides, this troper liked the extra focus on Nagisa, and the highlight of how she and Tomoya need each other. I could write a corresponding {{Headscratcher|s}} about how Yuuichi seemed to deal with the ''Kanon'' girls like an assembly line process and forget them instantly after he's done, even when they are briefly apparently the most important people in his life. Made the whole freak out over Ayu unconvincing, since he seemed pretty darn able to move on to the next girl before. It's better for the plotline and characterization to just pretend some arcs didn't exist – they had to rush in places anyways.

*** Well, neither Tomoyo nor Yukine were members. Yukine was just someone they talked to from time to time, and Tomoyo was student council president. And besides, this troper liked the extra focus on Nagisa, and the highlight of how she and Tomoya need each other. I could write a corresponding JustBugsMe about how Yuuichi seemed to deal with the ''Kanon'' girls like an assembly line process and forget them instantly after he's done, even when they are briefly apparently the most important people in his life. Made the whole freak out over Ayu unconvincing, since he seemed pretty darn able to move on to the next girl before. It's better for the plotline and characterization to just pretend some arcs didn't exist – they had to rush in places anyways.

* After Tomoya was expelled for a while, his teacher comes to his home to talk with his father, and since his father isn't at home, the teacher decides to wait. Inside... and we all know the place is a rotten mess that would likely require some pest exterminators. But when his father and teacher meet, the teacher is all nice and polite and shows no signs whatsoever that might indicate him thinking that Tomoya is kind of forced to live in absolute filth. WHY!? HOW!? If this happened in Europe or the USA, one call from the teacher would have child services and police come running down the street before you can blink. I know about the whole deal in Japan that problems are something that a family is supposed to solve by itself, but this goes too far.

** An in-depth discussion about this can by found on MyAnimeList right [[http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=194452 here]]

* So in the Yoshino plotline in After Story, you meet Kouko and work with her [[spoiler: to help Yoshino make a new album]] but years later you meet her and Yoshino and don't remember that [[spoiler: they were engaged.]]

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** It's an Asian thing. The people running the Thai food place near me does this in summer too, and I've been wondering why. I figured it out last summer at a festival, I was standing barefoot on a paved path, in line for water, and it was very hot, so I poured the last of my water on my feet and then it hit me. They do it for the benefit of people standing in line outside shops, barefoot.

*** Although this was mostly a ploy made by the KeyVisuals writers, and was done in an effort to avoid offending a female coworker who had a DarkandTroubledPast in which her boyfriend [[TeenPregnancy knocked her up at the age of 14]], and her AbusiveParents threatened to disown her if she didn't get an abortion, which she did. The writers changed their plans of giving Tomoya (the player) the option to agree with Sanae's suggestion (which would cause a BittersweetEnding in which Nagisa survived, but spends the rest of her life brokenhearted due to never having given birth to Ushio) because they didn't want to "open old wounds", so to speak. I can understand trying not to offend people, but is it really worth [[TearJerker killing off everyone's favorite character?]]. [[IGotBetter Even if she does ultimately get better?]]. I don't think so.

*** Although this was mostly a ploy made by the [[creator KeyVisuals]] writers, and was done in an effort to avoid offending a female coworker who had a [DarkandTroubledPast] in which her boyfriend [[TeenPregnancy knocked her up at the age of 14]], and her [[Abusive Parents]] threatened to disown her if she didn't get an abortion, which she did. The writers didn't want to "open old wounds", so to speak. I can understand not trying to offend people, but is it really worth [[TearJerker killing off everyone's favorite character?]]. [[IGotBetter Even if she does ultimately get better?]]. I don't think so.

** Actually, in both the anime and VN, they ''did'' realize instantly that every decision Nagisa made was shortsighted and dangerous, and they spend the next couple of episodes trying to change her mind. Sanae even went so far as to suggest Nagisa have an abortion; Tomoya didn't really say much one way or the other, but he didn't object to it. Nagisa refused. At that point, there was nothing they could do. Then, Nagisa decided she wanted a home-birth. Now, ''normally'' that's a fine idea – it relaxes the mother, helps form parent/child bonds, and so on – but given Nagisa's delicate constitution, it was better to go to the hospital. On that point, they finally managed to talk some sense into Nagisa and she agreed to go to the hospital… but she ended up going into labor early… during a heavy snowstorm. The ambulance couldn't make it in time.

* Episode 15 of After Story: So Nagisa is pregnant, and we all know giving birth isn't easy for the mother, specially if they're an IllGirl with a frail body, which can lead to [[DeathByChildbirth bad things]]. We all got this? Good. Then just WHY did Nagisa decide to give birth in her house (Itself fairly strange, but whatever), and what is worse, [[IdiotPlot why didn't Tomoya, her parents, or ANYONE realize how bad an idea this was]]? Did they forget how (for example) half the previous episode was about how hard it was for Nagisa to find a job due to her illness? I mean, this isn't a petty little detail, she's been ill since she was born. Did {{IdiotBall}}s rain the night before or what? And when she finally changes her mind, they just mention it by passing (So they could set the DeusAngstMachina I guess), as if it was a minor thing. Great.

* And speaking of Tomoyo, first episode of ''After Story'': Tomoyo bats and gets a home-run. She then [[IdiotBall randomly decides to do a more femenine batting]] and gets nothing. Sunohara tries a home-run... run and fails (Not sure of the proper term, not a baseball fan, sorry), so he gets berated by Kyou... and Tomoyo. Who blame him as the cause for their current tie. Even though if Tomoyo had made a home run when she had the chance, they would be winning by one point. Huh... what? I know Sunohara is a ButtMonkey, but this is ridiculous.
** And on the baseball game topic: Why didn't nobody even for one second blame their sudden lead drop on the fact they lost their GameBreaker pitcher and his replacement being ''horribly weak''? And for that matter (Though this might be related to actual baseball rules), couldn't they have Kyou or Tomoyo do the pitching instead and give Nagisa a bat? You'd think having one horrible batter would be better than having a horrible pitcher. Or have Ryou pitch, she would've been better than Nagisa too. But nope, Nagisa does it and nobody minds it one bit.

** In the visual novel when you get to After Story you see that Yoshino Yuusuke has a cell phone.

** Sunohara actually has blond hair. The rest have variant shades of black hair, but as in YouGottaHaveBlueHair, hair colors can be used for personality or just to set them apart. Usually wild hair colors are just shorthand to tell characters apart.
** I think the main point was that blonde wasn't his natural hair color. The people with blue or purple hair are naturally colored that way.

* How come we never see Nagisa and Tomoya doing the deed. I know it's it's at the G rating, [[BleachedUnderpants but this is Key we are talking about]], the other Seasonverse games have H-scenes, so why not Clannad? They even had both a clean and unclean version of both ''VisualNovel/{{Air}}'' and ''VisualNovel/{{Kanon}}''. I know this is a stupid question and the obvious anwsers are either "[[GettingCrapPastTheRadar They can't get away with sex]]" and "[[{{Rule34}} Let the fans draw it then]]", but it must be said.

** I don't know if this is the case in the Japanese version, but in the English Dub, it's specifically stated that he was arrested for "dealing in something illegal". So yeah. If I had to guess, probably selling drugs or something else along those lines.

** It's an asian thing. The people running the thaifood place near me does this in sumemr too, and I've been wondering why. I figured it out last summer at a festival, I was standing barefoot on a paved path, inline for water, and it was very hot, so I poured the last of my water on my feet and then it hit me. They do it for the benefit of people standing in line outside shops, barefoot.