History Headscratchers / Ben10UltimateAlien

25th Nov '16 3:12:03 PM nombretomado
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** In my experience, a lot of this seems to be not just a problem with the Ben10 franchise, but whenever you get aliens in a superhero-verse- they'll almost always have superhuman abilities in some form, and these will almost always be treated interchangably with human superpowers. See exhibit a: {{Superman}} and related characters.

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** In my experience, a lot of this seems to be not just a problem with the Ben10 Franchise/Ben10 franchise, but whenever you get aliens in a superhero-verse- they'll almost always have superhuman abilities in some form, and these will almost always be treated interchangably with human superpowers. See exhibit a: {{Superman}} and related characters.



** It probably has to do with the fact that Kevin and Gwen are never seen as anything other than Ben's [[{{Sidekick}} sidekicks]] or [[TagalongKid tagalongs]] by the general public in the WesternAnimation/{{Ben10}} universe. At most they might be viewed by some people as Ben's entourage, but that's probably the best they can hope for.

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** It probably has to do with the fact that Kevin and Gwen are never seen as anything other than Ben's [[{{Sidekick}} sidekicks]] or [[TagalongKid tagalongs]] by the general public in the WesternAnimation/{{Ben10}} Franchise/Ben10 universe. At most they might be viewed by some people as Ben's entourage, but that's probably the best they can hope for.
22nd Oct '16 12:47:42 PM BreadBull
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** ShipOfTheseus. Sure, it looks, acts and talks like him, but is it him?
20th Oct '16 12:48:39 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** TheyJustDidntCare
*** BatmanCanBreatheInSpace

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** TheyJustDidntCare
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BatmanCanBreatheInSpace
6th May '16 9:10:55 PM nombretomado
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** For the record, writers are bugged more to make merchandise then work at the convenience of animators. GeneratorRex works fine with well past 100 completely unorthodox creatures in it,there is usually a couple of new, non humanoid's each episode.

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** For the record, writers are bugged more to make merchandise then work at the convenience of animators. GeneratorRex ''WesternAnimation/GeneratorRex'' works fine with well past 100 completely unorthodox creatures in it,there is usually a couple of new, non humanoid's each episode.
14th Jul '15 10:28:36 AM nombretomado
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** Superman isn't the best example, considering that his abilities aren't exactly natural, considering that naturally he wouldn't have yellow sunlight. ''MartianManhunter'', on the other hand...

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** Superman isn't the best example, considering that his abilities aren't exactly natural, considering that naturally he wouldn't have yellow sunlight. ''MartianManhunter'', ''ComicBook/MartianManhunter'', on the other hand...
6th Mar '15 3:12:11 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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** That's hardly FridgeLogic, considering multiple video games let two characters use the same character. Hell, in SuperSmashBros, Mario and Dr. Mario were two completely separate characters.

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** That's hardly FridgeLogic, considering multiple video games let two characters use the same character. Hell, in SuperSmashBros, ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', Mario and Dr. Mario were two completely separate characters.
21st Feb '15 9:28:54 AM TVRulezAgain
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* In "Video Games", Harangue states that his fight against Ben is broadcast live. Shouldn't the audience have ''seen'' that it was him breaking stuff with his [[TheIncredibles Omnidroid knockoff]] and ''not'' Ben? That trick of reversing the footage to make it look like Humongousaur was pulling the monument down shouldn't have worked. Though, we don't know the audience's reaction, so it's likely that it ''didn't''.

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* In "Video Games", Harangue states that his fight against Ben is broadcast live. Shouldn't the audience have ''seen'' that it was him breaking stuff with his [[TheIncredibles [[WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles Omnidroid knockoff]] and ''not'' Ben? That trick of reversing the footage to make it look like Humongousaur was pulling the monument down shouldn't have worked. Though, we don't know the audience's reaction, so it's likely that it ''didn't''.



*** Look at Big Chill/Ultimate Big Chill ([[PreAsskickingOneLiner "Flames so cold they burn!"]]), or Spidermonkey/Ultimate Spidermonkey (SuperStrength and stronger webbing). The formula for Ultimate forms seems to be "the same as the base form, but UpToEleven". So he doesn't have any real guarantee that going ultimate will change his moveset enough to confuse [[TheIncredibles the Omnidroid]]. Sure, Humongousaur/Ultimate Humongousaur has [[MacrossMissileMassacre missiles]], but the last time he saw that one, [[EvilTwin Albedo]] was using it to [[CurbStompBattle curb stomp him]]. I'd be scared of that form, too.

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*** Look at Big Chill/Ultimate Big Chill ([[PreAsskickingOneLiner "Flames so cold they burn!"]]), or Spidermonkey/Ultimate Spidermonkey (SuperStrength and stronger webbing). The formula for Ultimate forms seems to be "the same as the base form, but UpToEleven". So he doesn't have any real guarantee that going ultimate will change his moveset enough to confuse [[TheIncredibles [[WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles the Omnidroid]]. Sure, Humongousaur/Ultimate Humongousaur has [[MacrossMissileMassacre missiles]], but the last time he saw that one, [[EvilTwin Albedo]] was using it to [[CurbStompBattle curb stomp him]]. I'd be scared of that form, too.
13th Oct '14 8:27:28 PM DashBeatum
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********* As many other have said Ultimate Big Chill's unique powers is that it's fire ice as opposed to regular ice.
6th Jul '14 10:25:38 AM Sunchet
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* What happened to the utility of the master control? In the original series, we saw Ben 10,000 use it for combos like jumping into the air with Fourarms and slamming down with Cannonbolt or laying down a layer of water with Spitter and electrifying it with Buzzshock. When present Ben unlocked it, he was able to fight his two greatest enemies simultaneously by rapidly switching between small, fast, and evasive forms and strong, hard-hitting ones. When Azmuth unlocked it in Alien Force, Ben didn't pull off creative tricks like this, but he at least changed forms a bunch to use different attacks. Yet in Ultimate Alien after Inspector 13 unlocks the Ultimatrix's master control, absolutely nothing changes about Ben's use of aliens. Did the writers forget about it?

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* What happened to the utility of the master control? In the original series, we saw Ben 10,000 use it for combos like jumping into the air with Fourarms and slamming down with Cannonbolt or laying down a layer of water with Spitter and electrifying it with Buzzshock. When present Ben unlocked it, he was able to fight his two greatest enemies simultaneously by rapidly switching between small, fast, and evasive forms and strong, hard-hitting ones. When Azmuth unlocked it in Alien Force, Ben didn't pull off creative tricks like this, but he at least changed forms a bunch to use different attacks. Yet in Ultimate Alien after Inspector 13 unlocks the Ultimatrix's master control, absolutely nothing changes about Ben's use of aliens. Did the writers forget about it?it?
**Presumably it was locked again, after Ben rebooted the 'trix.
20th Apr '14 10:54:10 AM Koreviss
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** Ben doesn't know how to do everything his aliens can do. He hasn't trained to know how to travel over electric lines or read thoughts.

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** Ben doesn't know how to do everything his aliens can do. He hasn't trained to know how to travel over electric lines or read thoughts.thoughts.

* What happened to the utility of the master control? In the original series, we saw Ben 10,000 use it for combos like jumping into the air with Fourarms and slamming down with Cannonbolt or laying down a layer of water with Spitter and electrifying it with Buzzshock. When present Ben unlocked it, he was able to fight his two greatest enemies simultaneously by rapidly switching between small, fast, and evasive forms and strong, hard-hitting ones. When Azmuth unlocked it in Alien Force, Ben didn't pull off creative tricks like this, but he at least changed forms a bunch to use different attacks. Yet in Ultimate Alien after Inspector 13 unlocks the Ultimatrix's master control, absolutely nothing changes about Ben's use of aliens. Did the writers forget about it?
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