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* So [[spoiler:Alfred decides to leave]] because he feels that Batman creates the evil he destroys with Two-Face, Cobblepot, Lady Arkham and the Joker as notable examples. How does Alfred come to this conclusion? He knows Lady Arkham and Cobblepot were evil years before even meeting Batman and depending on how you play the game Joker and Harvey's downfall can barely be contributed towards Batman.
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* Harvey becoming Mayor immediately after Hill's death, despite them still being in the debate phase. Why on earth wouldn't Hill's party just be allowed to appoint a new candidate?
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** Telling the truth is owning up to the fact that Bruce put Lucius into harm's way by giving him the Riddler device, lying is acting as if Bruce had no idea what happened.
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** It's quite possible that Tiffany tracked down the drone Batman was using and that lead her to Riddler. If you told her the truth at the Funeral she has the motivation to track you down and she has the tool to do so, and even if you lied to her, She would get suspicious about the sudden activity of the drone.

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** It's ** [[spoiler:It's quite possible that Tiffany tracked down the drone Batman was using and that lead her to Riddler. If you told her the truth at the Funeral she has the motivation to track you down and she has the tool to do so, and even if you lied to her, She would get suspicious about the sudden activity of the drone.]]
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** It's quite possible that Tiffany tracked down the drone Batman was using and that lead her to Riddler. If you told her the truth at the Funeral she has the motivation to track you down and she has the tool to do so, and even if you lied to her, She would get suspicious about the sudden activity of the drone.
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*So in the end it turns out that [[spoiler: Tiffany was the one that killed the Riddler out of revenge for her father. Except how did she know he was involved at all? The cause of Lucius' death is covered up and even if you tell her the truth she doesn't get a bunch of information out of you. Somehow she not only knows how Lucius died but where his killer was in time to stage an ambush? How'd she pull all that off?]]
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* So how exactly does this version of Penguin get the nickname "Penguin"? He doesn't physically resemble one. He doesn't wear evening garb at any point (even when in costume he's wearing more of a business suit). Sure, he acquires a limp in the final fight, but clearly already had the nickname well before that. Is there a reason he'd be call that besides GrandfatherClause?
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* So at the funeral, you have to decide between telling Tiffany the truth that you thought it was safe, or lying and saying that you didn't knowingly put Lucius in danger. Umm, aren't those pretty much the same thing?
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** To answer your questions in order: yes, Selina's plan is to finish it on her own terms in a way Bruce disagrees with. John agrees to steal Harley's laptop so Selina can't get to it, and Bruce wants it presumably for that reason and because at least that way he may be able to figure out a way into it without the decrypter. They seemed to genuinely not consider that Harley would notice the laptop was missing or thought they could get what they needed and put it back in time. John giving the laptop to Batman was meant to tip off the players that he's not about double-crossing Bruce; no, he never told Bruce he was doing that (alternatively, maybe John figured all Bruce wanted was for Selina to not get the laptop rather than actually wanting the laptop himself, so giving it to Batman would accomplish that). Yes, the deal is "give me the laptop and I won't hurt the girl you love". John was not betraying the pact; he was, in his own way, thinking he was protecting Harley while also keeping Selina away from the virus. John probably doesn't know/care what Batman plans to do with the laptop, and like I said before, Batman/Bruce wants it to keep it away from Selina and possibly to try and get into on his own time; John isn't scamming him so much as going "here's what you want, dunno what you're gonna do with it but okay" and trying to genuinely help.
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** As of Episode 4 [[spoiler: it seems to be the final nail in the coffin John needs to prove that Bruce is Batman. "You kind of gave yourself away with the laptop."]]
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** IIRC, nobody really noticed the veins after Harvey and Hill were injected, and even if they did see the veins, there'd be nothing much to link it to the injection. Even if Bruce told them about the veins, 1. They probably wouldn't believe it, and 2. They would've suspicious as to why Bruce knows this.

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** IIRC, **IIRC, nobody really noticed the veins after Harvey and Hill were injected, and even if they did see the veins, there'd be nothing much to link it to the injection. Even if Bruce told them about the veins, 1. They probably wouldn't believe it, and 2. They would've suspicious as to why Bruce knows this.
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** They'd probably not believe him, and/or be suspicious of how he knows it.


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**IIRC, nobody really noticed the veins after Harvey and Hill were injected, and even if they did see the veins, there'd be nothing much to link it to the injection. Even if Bruce told them about the veins, 1. They probably wouldn't believe it, and 2. They would've suspicious as to why Bruce knows this.
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** Selina leaves the batcave before you do; she mentions that she's going to snoop on Harley some more. Presumably she got caught in the midst of that.
* I'm confused about the whole "steal the laptop" thing in Episode 3. I went to that underground Riddler place with Selina, and we found a decrypter that only works in conjuction with the retinal scan goggles. Selina stole the decrypter because...uh...she wants to "finish things on her own terms", or something? I guess the implication is that the data will allow her to find these Lotus people and assassinate them, and Bruce is opposed to that because of his One Rule. So anyway, she gets away and now John and I are faced with the problem of what to do about it, since no one wants to tell Harley that we screwed up. John agrees to steal Harley's laptop, becuase...why? What are we planning to ''do'' with this laptop? We can't get to the files without the decrypter. Maybe the idea is to just prevent Selina from getting her hands on the files? But ok, obviously Harley's going to notice that the laptop is gone. So then what? Maybe the plan all along was to frame catwoman for the theft, but I don't remember them discussing that while they were making the plan. But anyway, John talks to Bruce and agrees to steal the laptop, and later he steals the laptop and shows Bruce that he stole it, and the next thing we see is him offering the laptop to ''Batman''. Was this part of the plan? Did John tell Bruce that he was going to make a deal with Batman? Because I don't remember him talking about that. And what is this deal with Batman, anyway? John gives Batman the laptop, and in return Batman promises not to hurt Harlen when the Pact gets taken down? Is John outright betraying the Pact here? And if he is, why doesn't he just tell Batman ''everything''? Why offer just this one laptop? And what the hell is Batman supposed to ''do'' with the laptop if he presumably possesses neither the decrypter nor the retinal scan goggles? Is John trying to scam him or something, by offering up a laptop that he can't actually access? But if that's the case, then why give him a genuine laptop with genuine files on it when he could just give him some other laptop? I have no idea what's going on.
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* Why exactly did nobody think to do a blood test on Bruce, considering the VERY OBVIOUS VEINS ON HIS ARM AND LIPS EXACTLY LIKE THE ONES HILL AND DENT GOT AT THE DEBATE? Not to mention the bleeding injection site on his hand?
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* During the climax of episode 3 of season 2, we are stuck between telling Harley that either Bruce or Catwoman stole her laptop. The last time we saw Selina, she was safe and sound in the batcave. When we then drop Selina in it, suddenly she's bound and gagged and placed in a potentially lethal trap by the Pact. Is their a scene missing were she's captured or something?

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* During the climax of episode 3 of season 2, we are stuck between telling Harley that either Bruce or Catwoman stole her laptop. The last time we saw Selina, she was safe and sound in the batcave. When we then drop Selina in it, suddenly she's bound and gagged and placed in a potentially lethal trap by the Pact. Is their there a scene missing were she's captured or something?
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* During the climax of episode 3 of season 2, we are stuck between telling Harley that either Bruce or Catwoman stole her laptop. The last time we saw Selina, she was safe and sound in the batcave. When we then drop Selina in it, suddenly she's bound and gagged and placed in a potentially lethal trap by the Pact. Is their a scene missing were she's captured or something?
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** This headscratcher gets answered in episode 3: the reason it's such a big deal that Regina caught Bruce with Harley and John is that [[spoiler:it's one of several things that makes Jim Gordon suspicious of Bruce Wayne (though not of Batman); Gordon concludes that Bruce must be "dirty" and working with criminals.]]

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** As I recall, Harvey left the hospital prematurely, not really caring about the treatment at the time. In ''Film/TheDarkKnight'', it was said Harvey refused any kind of surgery despite the injuries. It's likely that this Harvey is doing the same thing, as detrimental to himself as it is.



* Why is it such a big deal that Regina caught Bruce with Harley and John? From her perspective it clearly looks like Bruce was being held hostage by a pair of criminals, which isn't even all that far from the truth.

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* Why is it such a big deal that Regina caught Bruce with Harley and John? From her perspective perspective, it clearly looks like Bruce was being held hostage by a pair of criminals, which isn't even all that far from the truth.
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** And since Regina saw it, that means she'll expect followup of some kind (going to the police perhaps) rather than quietly taking out the key with no one the wiser as Bruce was hoping for.
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** After what happened in episode one, the last thing people would expect Bruce to be doing is hanging out with people of questionable repute.
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* Why is it such a big deal that Regina caught Bruce with Harley and John? From her perspective it clearly looks like Bruce was being held hostage by a pair of criminals, which isn't even all that far from the truth.
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*After Bruce us drugged by [[spoiler:Vicki Vale]] at the press conference and convinces him to attack Cobblepot, he is sent to Arkham indefinitely thanks to Harvey's influence. However Bruce never seems to defend himself to the doctors by saying he was poisoned, despite the puncture wound still being on his hand and the drugs still being in his system. It is even stranger as Renee Montoya was drugged in a similar fashion and a drug test could prove that he was not in control of himself, similar to her.
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* So, does Gotham just not have any real health care at all? I mean Harvey Dent gets [[spoiler: half of his face seared off, depending on player choice]] and yet there isn't a single suggestion concerning reconstructive surgery, or facial transplants, or even just basic effing bandaging so the massive festering wound isn't constantly dripping blood and pus everywhere? I mean, yeah, you have to have the classic Two-face look, but the idea that anyone, let alone the mayor of a large American city, would be permitted to just wander around outside with that kind of injury exposed to the elements is just absurd. Partial face transplants have been around since 2005 for god's sake. Heck, a few skin grafts could probably have done the job until a donor could be found. It just makes no sense for a wealthy, well-connected version of Harvey Dent to obtain the injuries he did and not do something about them! He does [[spoiler: go completely crazy after a while]] but he still spends a significant amount of time after the injury with some degree of lucidity. And since [[spoiler: the game's story will still turn Dent into Two-face regardless of whether or not he gets burned]], I just don't see the point of including it as a possibility at all.

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* So, does Gotham just not have any real health care at all? I mean Harvey Dent gets [[spoiler: half of his face seared off, depending on player choice]] and yet there isn't a single suggestion concerning reconstructive surgery, or facial transplants, or even just basic effing bandaging so the massive festering wound isn't constantly dripping blood and pus everywhere? I mean, yeah, you have to have the classic Two-face look, but the idea that anyone, let alone the mayor of a large American city, would be permitted to just wander around outside with that kind of injury exposed to the elements is just absurd. Partial face transplants have been around since 2005 for god's sake. Heck, a few skin grafts could probably have done the job until a donor could be found. It just makes no sense for a wealthy, well-connected version of Harvey Dent to obtain the injuries he did and not do something about them! He does [[spoiler: go completely crazy after a while]] but he still spends a significant amount of time after the injury with some degree of lucidity. And since [[spoiler: the game's story will still turn Dent into Two-face regardless of whether or not he gets burned]], I just don't see the point of including it as a possibility at all.all.
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** Of course, Joker tends to be a FourthWallObserver at the best of times, so he just might know what's going on. Keep in mind that nobody knows how or when or why he was admitted to Arkham Asylum -- he simply showed up one day -- so it's distinctly possible that he has access to information that other characters simply can't reach.
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*** Yes, but most writers since the silver age have felt an obligation to ''explain'' a characters fighting skills and advanced tech. Seems like they didn't really think her character through, but who knows. Maybe there was going be be some dialogue or a reveal in future seasons about how Vicki was ex-special forces, and that Lexcorp was supplying the Children of Arkham to destabilize Gotham and give Luthor oppurtunities.
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** Presumably from the dynamics of the fire, it's possible the room [[spoiler: Alfred was kidnapped from]] was simply spared from the inferno. Someone likely extinguished the flames if Harvey felt safe enough to hold people hostage there.
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** That or the comment was intended as a BaitAndSwitch, and he may have been coyly referring to some other dark secret Bruce had, blissfully unaware that he had spooked The Goddamn Batman.
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* A bit Meta, but...Why. Why, Why, WHY do people prefer letting Harvey Become Two-Face other than a half-assed "Oh, He'll become Two-Face later." That's got to be the dumbest goddamn excuse I've ever heard. If you can prevent or just postpone a Tragedy, a [[BodyHorror VERY Gruesome]] one too, Why not just take the chance?
** It's probably because Two-Face is a popular villain and people want him in their game. I wouldn't know though. I saved Dent.
** That and Telltale has a track record that if one can prevent injury or death for a character, then an unavoidable injury or death will happen for said character later on.
** Also, because it requires doing something horrible to Selina, thereby possibly causing HER to turn Evil... and, the theory that Harvey will turn evil ANYWAY makes it pointless.
*** Doing something horrible to Selina? You don't save her and this leads to her being less open to Bruce, true, but you hardly just leave her to die no matter what the newspaper said. Saving Harvey just means you see two people in need of help and you go after the civilian longer-friend future mayor of Gotham who is going to be beaten to death with a large light before you go right over to her and take out one of the guys. She may see it as not prioritizing her and that's fair but you don't do anything horrible to her.
*** Except nothing changes with Selina even if you chose to help Harvey first. You can still end up sleeping with her - with the following scene with Harvey leaving the impression that in this case it's ''your actions'' that have driven him over the edge.
*** Wrong on that note. Your choice affects how Selina reacts. Save her and her reaction is more receptive, hoping you'll make breakfast for her, whereas if you don't, she outright states that last night didn't mean anything on account of how you left her at the debate. On that note, it comes across as hypocritical to lambaste people for "letting Harvey become Two-Face because he will eventually" while criticizing pro-Selina players because "you'll get to sleep with her anyway."
** Not every choice is meta. Some are impromptu judgment calls. Who's in more danger: one man against a lamp or one woman against multiple guns? Is Batman holding a grudge against Harvey? By the same token, in the next episode - is saving Montoya instead of Harvey a conscious meta effort to create Two-Face, or does the player think Montoya needs Batman's help more? Is the reverse a conscious effort to save Harvey or a grudge against Montoya? OP, please don't paint the player base with the same brush. Everyone's reasons are their own and they don't all fall under "well, he's going to become Two-Face anyway."
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* In episode 4 [[spoiler: we choose whether to go to Wayne Enterprises or Wayne Manor. If we go to Wayne Manor, we get to encounter Harvey, who states that his goal is to make Wayne Manor vanish. Indeed, if we choose to go to Wayne Enterprises instead, we see Harvey basically burning/exploding the place.]] However, in episode 5 [[spoiler: Alfred is kidnapped by Lady Arkham from that very manor and somehow there's no damage seen at all. ]]

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* In episode 4 [[spoiler: we choose whether to go to Wayne Enterprises or Wayne Manor. If we go to Wayne Manor, we get to encounter Harvey, who states that his goal is to make Wayne Manor vanish. Indeed, if we choose to go to Wayne Enterprises instead, we see Harvey basically burning/exploding the place.]] However, in episode 5 [[spoiler: Alfred is kidnapped by Lady Arkham from that very manor and somehow there's no damage seen at all. ]]]]
* So, does Gotham just not have any real health care at all? I mean Harvey Dent gets [[spoiler: half of his face seared off, depending on player choice]] and yet there isn't a single suggestion concerning reconstructive surgery, or facial transplants, or even just basic effing bandaging so the massive festering wound isn't constantly dripping blood and pus everywhere? I mean, yeah, you have to have the classic Two-face look, but the idea that anyone, let alone the mayor of a large American city, would be permitted to just wander around outside with that kind of injury exposed to the elements is just absurd. Partial face transplants have been around since 2005 for god's sake. Heck, a few skin grafts could probably have done the job until a donor could be found. It just makes no sense for a wealthy, well-connected version of Harvey Dent to obtain the injuries he did and not do something about them! He does [[spoiler: go completely crazy after a while]] but he still spends a significant amount of time after the injury with some degree of lucidity. And since [[spoiler: the game's story will still turn Dent into Two-face regardless of whether or not he gets burned]], I just don't see the point of including it as a possibility at all.

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