History Headscratchers / BatmanReturns

20th May '17 5:13:56 PM SkepticalBaby
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*Why exactly was Shreck's plan with using Gotham's electricity? Why was he sucking power from Gotham and storing it?
20th May '17 5:09:58 PM SkepticalBaby
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** She wasn't really dead when she hit the pavement. Almost certainly brain-damaged enough to cause a psychotic break, but miraculously not seriously injured. Happens sometimes: people fall off buildings and don't pick up the horrific injuries you would expect. Just used up one of her nine lives (not magically, just metaphorically).
*** At the end, she takes enough bullets and a stun gun kiss which should kill any normal person they just counted as losing lives. And, of course, she was alive at the end of the movie. She seemed to have some sort of power.
*** People -can- survive high amounts of electricity if lucky and/or in the right situation. Plus, her rubber suit (from the raincoats she cuts up) makes for good insulation.
*** Didn't the awful, awful Catwoman flick pretty much confirm that she's got some sort of magic powers? Michelle Pfeiffer's character was among the photos of the other Catwomen the crazy lady shows to Halle Berry.
*** I could've sworn that the Halle movie was actually just based off of the character of Catwoman. It just made comic book fans freak out because of Halle and they thought it would be about the actual Catwoman.
*** Nope, the Berry movie pretty much has zip and zilch in common with the character; Burton's Catwoman was left deliberately ambiguous as to whether she was just lucky as hell or was actually superpowered, whereas the Catwoman movie has a cat breathe magic breath into Halle Berry's face. The Berry movie also has very little in common with any other take on the character, save that she's black like Eartha Kitt's take.
*** For starters, Returns was made ''well'' before anyone considered that movie. For a second, I seriously doubt anyone is going to take anything from that movie as canon to ''Film/BatmanReturns'', considering that photo and the name are the only things they have in common.
*** All of her "deaths" are somewhat survivable - at least with [[ArtisticLicenseBiology Movie Biology]], how many times have we seen a character take all but an obviously fatal blow (bullet to the head, decapitation) and survive? e.g. After being pushed by Shreck her fall was broken by several canopies on the way down, etc. (Also cats are known for being able to fall safely from a height). So her deaths are supposed to be a bit metaphorical, rather than actual magic powers on her part...
* We learn that Shreck is a CorruptCorporateExecutive because he plans to build a power plant that actually intentionally ''drains'' power from Gotham City instead of generating it. What would Shreck gain from this at all? He can't really do much with the energy he's just "stockpiling somewhere", and when people start realizing there's a power shortage ''they're going to blame the power plant,'' even if they don't catch on to the plan.
12th Apr '17 8:10:38 AM Movienut376
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***That actually serves two purposes: first, it hits her in the head, knocking her out, making it easier for the Circus Gang to kidnap her. Secondly, the head wound gets her blood on the Batarang, making it easier to implicate Batman in the crime.
31st Mar '17 10:30:19 PM DocStone
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** To say "it's not like Max raped Selina" is a little callous. While rape and attempted murder are two very different crimes that can have varying psychological effects on different victims, it's not a stretch to imagine that the trauma they cause can also be processed similarly. Just as if Max had raped Selina, in the scene he overpowered her both emotionally and physically. He made her feel small and dehumanized her (in a kind of ultimate sense- her life was so insignificant that he had no qualms ending it.) Worst of all, just as if she had been raped, she has to live with the memory of such a horrifying event forever.
21st Feb '17 12:11:02 AM Gess
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*** We know nothing of her past. Harly Queen combined majoring in psychiatry with acrobatic training, why couldn't Selina?
21st Feb '17 12:06:19 AM Gess
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* Remember the unmasking scene near the end? Batman's mask seems to be made out of soft rubber if he can tear it off so easily. Isn't he worried some crook will accidentally rip it apart during a fight?

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* Remember the unmasking scene near the end? Batman's mask seems to be made out of soft rubber if he can tear it off so easily. Isn't he worried some crook will accidentally rip it apart during a fight?fight?
** He's a ninja. If some mook can lay hands on Batman long enough to rip off his mask, then losing his mask is the least of his problems.
15th Dec '16 12:44:20 PM cdrood
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*** The "in her head" theory doesn't explain her acquiring acrobatic abilities or knowing how to use a whip as an efficient weapon with no training or practice.
15th Nov '16 4:11:30 PM gothelittle
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*** He had more going for him than just his 'gross deformities'; before they got rid of him, he had bitten the doctor's nose off at his birth and killed the family cat as a toddler. He wasn't just deformed. He was violent.
15th Sep '16 12:14:39 PM SuperMagneto
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** It may not have even been a mobster, just someone working for Penguin's campaign. Even if it was, organized crime is (usually) a quiet, stealthy game. Max would probably have a hard time convincing his mob connections to do something big, destructive, and public without risking their operations. On the other hand, the Red Triangle gang is by nature loud, senseless, and disruptive, and they were that way even before Penguin had them rioting to stir up controversy for the campaign.

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** It may not have even been a mobster, just someone working for Penguin's campaign. Even if it was, organized crime is (usually) a quiet, stealthy game. Max would probably have a hard time convincing his mob connections to do something big, destructive, and public without risking their operations. On the other hand, the Red Triangle gang is by nature loud, senseless, and disruptive, and they were that way even before Penguin had them rioting to stir up controversy for the campaign.campaign.
* Remember the unmasking scene near the end? Batman's mask seems to be made out of soft rubber if he can tear it off so easily. Isn't he worried some crook will accidentally rip it apart during a fight?
2nd Aug '16 6:13:26 PM DocStone
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** It's likely they're not all or even mostly his old circus mates. A lot of them are probably street thugs who would be in one gang or another anyway, they just happened to pick the circus-themed one.
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