History Headscratchers / BatmanReturns

27th Jan '18 5:29:29 PM nombretomado
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** The whole idea is that several of Catwoman's 'deaths' don't look so deadly - she seems to have survived through pure luck, leaving us in a 'Well, is this really supernatural?' state. Then at the end when Shreck shoots her, and she fries them both with the generator, it's TimBurton finally confirming that yes, Catwoman did gain supernatural abilities.

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** The whole idea is that several of Catwoman's 'deaths' don't look so deadly - she seems to have survived through pure luck, leaving us in a 'Well, is this really supernatural?' state. Then at the end when Shreck shoots her, and she fries them both with the generator, it's TimBurton Creator/TimBurton finally confirming that yes, Catwoman did gain supernatural abilities.
24th Jan '18 4:01:04 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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** We don't ''know'' if she came back from the dead. Maybe there was some weird cat magic involved, [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane or]] maybe she just got lucky and went nuts when she woke up surrounded by stray cats.
31st Dec '17 1:00:17 PM TeeEss
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** The novelisation has his son Kip walk in on it almost instantly afterwards. Max starts stammering about how she fell and he tried to help her, and then Kip simply smiles and says, "She probably jumped." Max is then described as feeling incredibly proud of his son. Then they go home together and expect somebody to find Selina tomorrow.

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** The novelisation novelization has his son Kip Chip walk in on it almost instantly afterwards. Max starts stammering about how she fell and he tried to help her, and then Kip Chip simply smiles and says, "She probably jumped." Max is then described as feeling incredibly proud of his son. Then they go home together and expect somebody to find Selina tomorrow.
22nd Nov '17 11:40:42 AM Tightwire
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** He doesn't like getting his hands dirty. It's a sure sign of a power-motivated villain who likes to have others do the dirty work for him.
22nd Nov '17 11:39:16 AM Tightwire
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** As well as its size, there were trousers that went with the jacket.
22nd Nov '17 11:37:03 AM Tightwire
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** They heard it right there. And they believed their ears. Gotham practically runs on Mob Mentality.
11th Nov '17 12:29:03 PM UserNameIWillRemember
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** Considering that this is a comic book movie, maybe the effect was increased intelligence? It would explain why they mourned him in the end.
17th Oct '17 7:49:11 AM timemonkey
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** If it's big enough it'd work. Or she might have had one than one piece of black leather clothing to finish up. With the way it's all cut up and stitched together it'd be impossible to tell.



** Because she's insane, irrational and projecting her own issues on others.



* Something that's been bugging me a lot. It's said that Max Shreck was really supposed to be Harvey Dent from the last film, and that Catwoman was supposed to scar him into Two-Face. I understand that, but having watched the last film, are we really supposed to believe that Dent was to build a power-sucking power plant, and then push someone out a window for finding that out?

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* Something that's been bugging me a lot. It's said that Max Shreck was really supposed to be Harvey Dent from the last film, and that Catwoman was supposed to scar him into Two-Face. I understand that, but having watched the last film, are we really supposed to believe that Dent was to build a power-sucking power plant, and then push someone out a window for finding that out?out?
** I'd assume the plot was changed somewhat when they changed characters.
9th Oct '17 1:26:48 PM JohnShel91
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*** Did you not notice that Chip Schreck wasn't exactly 20 even? Or Shreck's white hair? It's more than possible Shreck lead the company then to,he was certainly old enough

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*** Did you not notice that Chip Schreck Shreck wasn't exactly 20 even? Or Shreck's white hair? It's more than possible Shreck lead the company then to,he was certainly old enough



** What makes you think the police would automatically take Selina's word for it, much less launch a full investigation of Schreck? Remember that the Mayor introduced him to the crowd at the tree-lighting early in the film as "Gotham's own Santa Claus", and Schreck himself threatens both the Mayor and Bruce Wayne over his power plant plans. Both the Mayor and Wayne should logically have a lot of power and influence in Gotham, and the fact that Schreck is comfortable taking them on shows that ''he'' has just as much influence, if not moreso. Schreck could easily call in a few favors and have the investigation quashed...and then push Selina out a higher window, figuratively speaking.

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** What makes you think the police would automatically take Selina's word for it, much less launch a full investigation of Schreck? Shreck? Remember that the Mayor introduced him to the crowd at the tree-lighting early in the film as "Gotham's own Santa Claus", and Schreck Shreck himself threatens both the Mayor and Bruce Wayne over his power plant plans. Both the Mayor and Wayne should logically have a lot of power and influence in Gotham, and the fact that Schreck Shreck is comfortable taking them on shows that ''he'' has just as much influence, if not moreso. Schreck Shreck could easily call in a few favors and have the investigation quashed...and then push Selina out a higher window, figuratively speaking.



** He did it in Schreck's office, and we already know Schreck is good at hushing shady things up. He probably threatened or bribed everyone in the office.

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** He did it in Schreck's Shreck's office, and we already know Schreck Shreck is good at hushing shady things up. He probably threatened or bribed everyone in the office.



* Why does Max Shreck wear gloves all the time?

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* Why does Max Shreck wear gloves all the time?time?
* Something that's been bugging me a lot. It's said that Max Shreck was really supposed to be Harvey Dent from the last film, and that Catwoman was supposed to scar him into Two-Face. I understand that, but having watched the last film, are we really supposed to believe that Dent was to build a power-sucking power plant, and then push someone out a window for finding that out?
18th Sep '17 7:29:29 PM Tightwire
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** A truck full of kitty litter does not necessarily make for a soft landing, especially from that presumed altitude. That said, a number of "deaths" she suffers throughout the movie ''are'' easily survivable, such as Max shooting her point-blank at the end -- practically none of the bullets hit any lethal areas.
** One completely valid interpretation that many of Batman Returns detractors keep ignoring is that it's more likely all the supernatural elements were only in Selina's head. Pretty much all her deaths were "survivable"
*** The "in her head" theory doesn't explain her acquiring acrobatic abilities or knowing how to use a whip as an efficient weapon with no training or practice.
*** We know nothing of her past. Harly Queen combined majoring in psychiatry with acrobatic training, why couldn't Selina?

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** A truck full of kitty litter does not necessarily make for a soft landing, especially from The whole idea is that presumed altitude. That said, a number several of "deaths" Catwoman's 'deaths' don't look so deadly - she suffers throughout the movie ''are'' easily survivable, such as Max shooting her point-blank seems to have survived through pure luck, leaving us in a 'Well, is this really supernatural?' state. Then at the end -- practically none of when Shreck shoots her, and she fries them both with the bullets hit any lethal areas.
** One completely valid interpretation that many of Batman Returns detractors keep ignoring is that
generator, it's more likely all the TimBurton finally confirming that yes, Catwoman did gain supernatural elements were only in Selina's head. Pretty much all her deaths were "survivable"
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The "in her head" theory doesn't explain her acquiring acrobatic abilities or knowing how to use a whip as an efficient weapon with no training or practice.
*** We know nothing of her past. Harly Queen Harley Quinn combined majoring in psychiatry with acrobatic training, why couldn't Selina?Selina? In fact, the novelisation explicitly explains that her mother pressured her into taking kick-boxing classes.
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