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** Well, the Future Static has been missing for quite some time. Probably Bruce had Terry went out and search for the missing hero 24/7 which can build up a lot of stress. Also, to have Bruce have Terry do that meant that Bruce respects Static on the same level as Super Man which makes it a CrowningMomentofHeartwarming.

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** Well, the Future Static has been missing for quite some time. Probably Bruce had Terry went out and search for the missing hero 24/7 which can build up a lot of stress. Also, to have Bruce have Terry do that meant that Bruce respects Static on the same level as Super Man which makes it a CrowningMomentofHeartwarming.SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}.

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** It's exactly what she meant, presumably. Queen was born and practically raised in the family, hence this was the only good thing that she had. Also, Bruce did say that there has been dozens of versions of the Royal Flush Gang that has passed their titles from Fathers to Sons and so on. It's possible Queen's Father was already in the gang and got promoted from Jack to King or he got recruited and became King.

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** It's exactly what she meant, presumably. meant. Queen was born and practically raised in by the family, hence this was the only good thing that she had. Also, Bruce did say that there has been dozens of versions of the Royal Flush Gang that has passed their titles from Fathers to Sons and/or Mothers to Daughters and so on. It's possible Whether Queen's Father father was already in the gang or recruited, he worked from either as Jack or Ace or Ten and then got promoted from Jack to King or he got recruited and became King.



** He's still a master hunter. Probably that experience with the train caused him to face his fears.

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** He's still a master hunter. Probably that experience with the train caused him to face his fears.fears which is why he is relatively normal.


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** It was already clear that Barbara has developed resentment towards Bruce. And after Bruce chose to help Terry over her, that could hurt.


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** Bruce is old now, why not the super villains?
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** Splicing has its benefits but also has its flaws. It has been stated that this particular splicing causes heightened aggression.

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** Splicing has its benefits but also has its flaws. It has been stated that this particular splicing causes heightened aggression.aggression which was shown when two of Cuvier's cronies assaulted a train full of people. Whether or not the news about their condition got to them, the point is cemented.



** It's exactly what Queen meant. She was practically raised in the family, hence it was the only good thing that she had.

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** It's exactly what she meant, presumably. Queen meant. She was born and practically raised in the family, hence it this was the only good thing that she had. Also, Bruce did say that there has been dozens of versions of the Royal Flush Gang that has passed their titles from Fathers to Sons and so on. It's possible Queen's Father was already in the gang and got promoted from Jack to King or he got recruited and became King.
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* It's exactly what Queen meant. She was practically raised in the family, hence it was the only good thing that she had.

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* ** It's exactly what Queen meant. She was practically raised in the family, hence it was the only good thing that she had.
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* It's exactly what Queen meant. She was practically raised in the family, hence it was the only good thing that she had.


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** He's still a master hunter. Probably that experience with the train caused him to face his fears.
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** Splicing has its benefits but also has its flaws. It has been stated that this particular splicing causes heightened aggression.
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* Why does "Robert Vance" want to be human so badly? Humans get sick, grow old, and die.
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* I find it odd they never show Dana and Terry kiss. Whenever they are about to kiss, a new villain attacks, and Terry has to leave Dana behind to save the day. Oddly enough, they show Terry making out with Ten in two episodes.

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* I find it odd they never show Dana Why does "Robert Vance" want to be human so badly? Humans get sick, grow old, and Terry kiss. Whenever they are about to kiss, a new villain attacks, and Terry has to leave Dana behind to save the day. Oddly enough, they show Terry making out with Ten in two episodes. die.
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* I find it odd they never show Dana and Terry kiss. Whenever they are about to kiss, a new villain attacks, and Terry has to leave Dana behind to save the day. Oddly enough, they show Terry making out with Ten in two episodes.
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* This episode's moral is pretty damn confused. Splicing is supposed to be a metaphor for body art/modification, but there are loads of other possibilities that are ''never'' touched upon. This guy figured out how to modify human/animal DNA without the side-effect of becoming a rampaging animal monster(in controlled doses). Imagine the deaf/blind gaining echolocation, amputees regrowing limbs, immunities of various animals curing terminal illness. So...why does the episode treat this as inherently evil!? Cuvier is pushing a scientific breakthrough that could ascend society as we know it, there's no reason for him to be a typical Card-carrying mad scientist. It's [[''Disney/TheIncredibles'' Syndrome's plan]] all over again, ten times more head-slapping.
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* During those 20 years, no super villain thought about taking over the city?

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* During those 20 years, no super villain thought about taking over the city? How is Gotham still in one piece?
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* Did Bruce defeat all the big time super villains before retiring?

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* Did Bruce defeat all the big time During those 20 years, no super villains before retiring? villain thought about taking over the city?
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* Bruce is lucky that there were no super villains around during the years of his retirement. Robin, Barbara, and Knightwing were too old to fight. They would have been screwed if Ras showed up one day with a deadly device.

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* Did Bruce is lucky that there were no defeat all the big time super villains around during the years of his retirement. Robin, Barbara, and Knightwing were too old to fight. They would have been screwed if Ras showed up one day with a deadly device. before retiring?
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* Bruce is lucky that super villains didn't attack Gotham during the years of his retirement. Robin, Barbara, and Knightwing were too old to fight at this point. They would have been screwed if Ras showed up with a weather making machine or something.

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* Bruce is lucky that there were no super villains didn't attack Gotham around during the years of his retirement. Robin, Barbara, and Knightwing were too old to fight at this point. fight. They would have been screwed if Ras showed up one day with a weather making machine or something.deadly device.
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* Bruce is lucky that super villains didn't attack Gotham during the years of his retirement. Did Robin, Barbara, Knightwing somehow stopped the surviving Batman rogues gallery from taking over?

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* Bruce is lucky that super villains didn't attack Gotham during the years of his retirement. Did Robin, Barbara, and Knightwing somehow stopped the surviving Batman rogues gallery from taking over? were too old to fight at this point. They would have been screwed if Ras showed up with a weather making machine or something.
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* Bruce is lucky that super villains didn't attack Gotham during the years of his retirement. Did Robin, Barbara, Knightwing somehow stopped the surviving Batman rogues gallery from taking over?
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* What's up with the way she treats him when he tries to tell her that Spellbinder tricked her? He says "Barbara, you have to listen to me", and she cuts him out and refuses to listen, saying "Wrong. Those days are long gone, Bruce". What's up with her rudeness? ''He'' does listen to her when she goes to talk with him. Does she believe that she has the exclusive privilege to be heard by him since she's the commissioner/knows his secret, but not the other way around?

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* What's up with the way she treats him when he tries to tell her that Spellbinder tricked her? He says "Barbara, you have to listen to me", and she cuts him out off and refuses to listen, saying "Wrong. Those days are long gone, Bruce". What's up with her rudeness? ''He'' does He ''does'' listen to her when she goes to talk with him. Does she believe that she has the exclusive privilege of being listened to be heard by him since she's the commissioner/knows his secret, but he's not owed the other way around?courtesy and respect of being heard in return?
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*** That still feels iffy. Bruce talks about the Gang like they've been around for awhile, a couple generations at least. Given the ages of the Walker Family, they can't be more than one generation removed from Ace's Gang.


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* In "Dead Man's Hand", Queen takes her daughter Melanie aside and warns her not to leave the family, because they'd "been good to us", seemingly implying that she married into the gang and that Melanie may not even be a biological relative. By "King's Ransom", the implications are a complete 180, with Queen suggesting her father used to run the gang (and Melanie's biological connection is all but confirmed given her closeness with Jack). Anyone able to account for this?
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** He wasn't going to have 2 girlfriends; he was considering starting a relationship with Melanie and presumably dump Dana, but as he told Max, he wasn't sure about the whole matter yet, so he didn't burn his bridge with Dana yet. As Melanie ended up betraying him, it was a wise (if morally questionable) choice on his part.
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** Two reasons: Dana was already considering while Terry wasn't. The change in attitude toward her getting spliced would not be as suspicious as if he changed and wanted to get spliced himself. Second, because the focus isn't on Terry in the lab, it allows him to have a more critical eye without attracting suspicion.


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** Terry's a combat pragmatist and he was in a bad spot. He was counting on a feral reaction or something similar and it didn't pan out. As for not having any reprimand, Cuvier wasn't well liked by either of them so reprimanding Terry for doing so is counterproductive.


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** Cuvier knew how long the splicing was going to take and the results. He knew Batman wasn't going to keep up the fight (and he was prepared to fight back if the spliced Batman did attack him) and he was counting on Batman either helping his goon squad or finishing the job for them. The only thing he didn't count on was that Batman was going to break free of the restraints before the injection took effect, but that was a suit function, not the splicing.


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** The attackers outright said they were with Cuvier just before Batman showed up.


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** For simplicity sake the animators don't typically show small writing. The labeling most likely was on the solid parts of the injectors.


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** Ace heard a lot of grunts from Terry then stopped hearing them. Considering he was trained to fight and heard his, for lack of a better term "friend", in trouble, he came in.
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** Consider that in between Batman's shit got incredibly worse, at first rumours of the Batman kept criminals off the streets but then they returned in droves like the Jokers and T's these were just gangs and they were murderous! Bruce was the Dark Knight because he brought Justice to the dark of Gothams streets, Terry was the Tommorow Knight because he brought the light back to Gotham, the city was a dystopia and he saved it, it's like the opening text crawl says "Apathy, Greed, Corruption, Hope."

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** Consider that in between Batman's Batmans shit got incredibly worse, at first rumours of the Batman kept criminals off the streets but then they returned in droves like the Jokers and T's these were just gangs and they were murderous! Bruce was the Dark Knight because he brought Justice to the dark of Gothams Gotham's streets, Terry was the Tommorow Tomorrow Knight because he brought the light back to Gotham, the city was a dystopia and he saved it, it's like the opening text crawl says "Apathy, Greed, Corruption, Hope."



* Bat-genes or not, Terry wasn't going to just turn into Batman when his parents were killed. The [=McGinnis's=] seem to be reasonably well-off and middle class, but Terry couldn't possibly have had all the resources Bruce needed to travel the world and be trained by experts. He would likely just have been sent to live with relatives or put into foster care. If Waller overtly stepped in to help, she wouldn't have wound up with the kind of hero she wanted because Batman's a loner by nature.

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* Bat-genes or not, Terry wasn't going to just turn into Batman when his parents were killed. The [=McGinnis's=] seem [=McGinnis=] family seems to be reasonably well-off and middle class, but Terry couldn't possibly have had all the resources Bruce needed to travel the world and be trained by experts. He would likely just have been sent to live with relatives or put into foster care. If Waller overtly stepped in to help, she wouldn't have wound up with the kind of hero she wanted because Batman's a loner by nature.



** Nightwing just may possibly have decided to train Terry even if he knew the circumstances (Keep in mind that this isn't the Dick that got to hang out with the Teen Titans every weekend, but he did have brotherly relationship with Tim Drake), if it was what Terry wanted. Bruce pointed out to Barbara that every single one of his allies came willingly, all he did was teach them now not to die. However if Dick was in charge from the time he was very young it's possible that Terry may have ended up as a ''very'' different kind of Batman, if he became Batman at all.

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** Nightwing just may possibly have decided to train Terry even if he knew the circumstances (Keep (keep in mind that this isn't the Dick that got to hang out with the Teen Titans every weekend, but he did have a brotherly relationship with Tim Drake), if it was what Terry wanted. Bruce pointed out to Barbara that every single one of his allies came willingly, all he did was teach them now not to die. However if Dick was in charge from the time he was very young it's possible that Terry may have ended up as a ''very'' different kind of Batman, if he became Batman at all.



** I believe Amanda Waller's technique only targeted Warren McGuinnesses sperm cells, probably somehow replacing Warren's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spermatogonium spermatogonia]] so that they are carrying Bruce's DNA not his but leaving the rest of Warren's DNA alone. Of course this would be impossible in real life (aside from the sheer impracticality of the thing even if it did work Warren's immune system should recognise the different DNA and start attack it making him very ill indeed) but as this is the DCAU and crazier stuff has happened (e.g. diseases that effect all male sentient life for example) I'm willing to let it slide.

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** I believe Amanda Waller's technique only targeted Warren McGuinnesses [=McGinnis'=] sperm cells, probably somehow replacing Warren's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spermatogonium spermatogonia]] so that they are carrying Bruce's DNA not his but leaving the rest of Warren's DNA alone. Of course this would be impossible in real life (aside from the sheer impracticality of the thing even if it did work Warren's immune system should recognise the different DNA and start attack it making him very ill indeed) but as this is the DCAU and crazier stuff has happened (e.g. diseases that effect all male sentient life for example) I'm willing to let it slide.
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** Well, he is Bamtan. He must have had a secret fortune stacked somewhere in case he couldn't access his own wealth the normal way.
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** Like the teacher would spoon fed you. She probably wants her students to undergo situations where your spouse is less than stellar.
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** Well, the Future Static has been missing for quite some time. Probably Bruce had Terry went out and search for the missing hero 24/7 which can build up a lot of stress. Also, to have Bruce have Terry do that meant that Bruce respects Static on the same level as Super Man which makes it a CrowningMomentofHeartwarming.
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* Why didn't Terry ask the teacher to be paired up with Dana, his actual girlfriend instead of Blade Sommer? Things would have been less complicated for him in that episode.
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**The former. IIRC, the episode heavily implies that the entire scheme was concocted ahead of time, and that April was a willing participant from the outset.
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** Terry was probably trying (successfully) to get Corso out of danger and (unsuccessfully) quiet him down before the gang was alerted.
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**As far as this troper recalls, each time someone actually GETS a sample of Kryptonian DNA they usually spend a lot of time talking about how hard it is just to get the stuff to bond with the human DNA they're trying to splice it with. In other words: just because Kryptonians LOOK like humans, does not mean they are in any way a genetic match for us.

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