History Headscratchers / BatmanBeyond

20th Feb '18 8:28:22 PM MadAnthony94
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*** That still feels iffy. Bruce talks about the Gang like they've been around for awhile, a couple generations at least. Given the ages of the Walker Family, they can't be more than one generation removed from Ace's Gang.


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[[folder: Royal Flush Gang familial ties]]
* In "Dead Man's Hand", Queen takes her daughter Melanie aside and warns her not to leave the family, because they'd "been good to us", seemingly implying that she married into the gang and that Melanie may not even be a biological relative. By "King's Ransom", the implications are a complete 180, with Queen suggesting her father used to run the gang (and Melanie's biological connection is all but confirmed given her closeness with Jack). Anyone able to account for this?
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18th Feb '18 3:09:04 AM Dere
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** He wasn't going to have 2 girlfriends; he was considering starting a relationship with Melanie and presumably dump Dana, but as he told Max, he wasn't sure about the whole matter yet, so he didn't burn his bridge with Dana yet. As Melanie ended up betraying him, it was a wise (if morally questionable) choice on his part.
17th Feb '18 6:00:23 PM lordlundar
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** Two reasons: Dana was already considering while Terry wasn't. The change in attitude toward her getting spliced would not be as suspicious as if he changed and wanted to get spliced himself. Second, because the focus isn't on Terry in the lab, it allows him to have a more critical eye without attracting suspicion.


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** Terry's a combat pragmatist and he was in a bad spot. He was counting on a feral reaction or something similar and it didn't pan out. As for not having any reprimand, Cuvier wasn't well liked by either of them so reprimanding Terry for doing so is counterproductive.


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** Cuvier knew how long the splicing was going to take and the results. He knew Batman wasn't going to keep up the fight (and he was prepared to fight back if the spliced Batman did attack him) and he was counting on Batman either helping his goon squad or finishing the job for them. The only thing he didn't count on was that Batman was going to break free of the restraints before the injection took effect, but that was a suit function, not the splicing.


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** The attackers outright said they were with Cuvier just before Batman showed up.


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** For simplicity sake the animators don't typically show small writing. The labeling most likely was on the solid parts of the injectors.


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** Ace heard a lot of grunts from Terry then stopped hearing them. Considering he was trained to fight and heard his, for lack of a better term "friend", in trouble, he came in.
16th Feb '18 9:48:38 AM infernape612
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** Consider that in between Batman's shit got incredibly worse, at first rumours of the Batman kept criminals off the streets but then they returned in droves like the Jokers and T's these were just gangs and they were murderous! Bruce was the Dark Knight because he brought Justice to the dark of Gothams streets, Terry was the Tommorow Knight because he brought the light back to Gotham, the city was a dystopia and he saved it, it's like the opening text crawl says "Apathy, Greed, Corruption, Hope."

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** Consider that in between Batman's Batmans shit got incredibly worse, at first rumours of the Batman kept criminals off the streets but then they returned in droves like the Jokers and T's these were just gangs and they were murderous! Bruce was the Dark Knight because he brought Justice to the dark of Gothams Gotham's streets, Terry was the Tommorow Tomorrow Knight because he brought the light back to Gotham, the city was a dystopia and he saved it, it's like the opening text crawl says "Apathy, Greed, Corruption, Hope."



* Bat-genes or not, Terry wasn't going to just turn into Batman when his parents were killed. The [=McGinnis's=] seem to be reasonably well-off and middle class, but Terry couldn't possibly have had all the resources Bruce needed to travel the world and be trained by experts. He would likely just have been sent to live with relatives or put into foster care. If Waller overtly stepped in to help, she wouldn't have wound up with the kind of hero she wanted because Batman's a loner by nature.

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* Bat-genes or not, Terry wasn't going to just turn into Batman when his parents were killed. The [=McGinnis's=] seem [=McGinnis=] family seems to be reasonably well-off and middle class, but Terry couldn't possibly have had all the resources Bruce needed to travel the world and be trained by experts. He would likely just have been sent to live with relatives or put into foster care. If Waller overtly stepped in to help, she wouldn't have wound up with the kind of hero she wanted because Batman's a loner by nature.



** Nightwing just may possibly have decided to train Terry even if he knew the circumstances (Keep in mind that this isn't the Dick that got to hang out with the Teen Titans every weekend, but he did have brotherly relationship with Tim Drake), if it was what Terry wanted. Bruce pointed out to Barbara that every single one of his allies came willingly, all he did was teach them now not to die. However if Dick was in charge from the time he was very young it's possible that Terry may have ended up as a ''very'' different kind of Batman, if he became Batman at all.

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** Nightwing just may possibly have decided to train Terry even if he knew the circumstances (Keep (keep in mind that this isn't the Dick that got to hang out with the Teen Titans every weekend, but he did have a brotherly relationship with Tim Drake), if it was what Terry wanted. Bruce pointed out to Barbara that every single one of his allies came willingly, all he did was teach them now not to die. However if Dick was in charge from the time he was very young it's possible that Terry may have ended up as a ''very'' different kind of Batman, if he became Batman at all.



** I believe Amanda Waller's technique only targeted Warren McGuinnesses sperm cells, probably somehow replacing Warren's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spermatogonium spermatogonia]] so that they are carrying Bruce's DNA not his but leaving the rest of Warren's DNA alone. Of course this would be impossible in real life (aside from the sheer impracticality of the thing even if it did work Warren's immune system should recognise the different DNA and start attack it making him very ill indeed) but as this is the DCAU and crazier stuff has happened (e.g. diseases that effect all male sentient life for example) I'm willing to let it slide.

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** I believe Amanda Waller's technique only targeted Warren McGuinnesses [=McGinnis'=] sperm cells, probably somehow replacing Warren's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spermatogonium spermatogonia]] so that they are carrying Bruce's DNA not his but leaving the rest of Warren's DNA alone. Of course this would be impossible in real life (aside from the sheer impracticality of the thing even if it did work Warren's immune system should recognise the different DNA and start attack it making him very ill indeed) but as this is the DCAU and crazier stuff has happened (e.g. diseases that effect all male sentient life for example) I'm willing to let it slide.
4th Feb '18 2:29:17 PM Pompeii77
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** Well, he is Bamtan. He must have had a secret fortune stacked somewhere in case he couldn't access his own wealth the normal way.
4th Feb '18 2:26:40 PM Pompeii77
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** Like the teacher would spoon fed you. She probably wants her students to undergo situations where your spouse is less than stellar.
1st Feb '18 10:20:35 PM Pompeii77
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** Well, the Future Static has been missing for quite some time. Probably Bruce had Terry went out and search for the missing hero 24/7 which can build up a lot of stress. Also, to have Bruce have Terry do that meant that Bruce respects Static on the same level as Super Man which makes it a CrowningMomentofHeartwarming.
27th Dec '17 8:34:56 PM SuperMagneto
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* Why didn't Terry ask the teacher to be paired up with Dana, his actual girlfriend instead of Blade Sommer? Things would have been less complicated for him in that episode.
25th Oct '17 6:30:14 AM DarkDuel
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**The former. IIRC, the episode heavily implies that the entire scheme was concocted ahead of time, and that April was a willing participant from the outset.
23rd Sep '17 9:29:36 PM SteveMB
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** Terry was probably trying (successfully) to get Corso out of danger and (unsuccessfully) quiet him down before the gang was alerted.
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