History Headscratchers / BatmanArkhamCity

24th Nov '16 10:08:51 AM nombretomado
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** That idea actually doesn't work, because as shown later in the game, when you see [[spoiler:Clayface Joker]] in combat, he appears [[spoiler:without any bones. So unless he can form bones inside of his shape-shifted body, the best idea here so far is that dying Joker was just waiting there with a rigged heartbeat monitor.]] Maybe Batman's Detective mode only picks up heartbeat levels between a certain value? That way [[spoiler:the Joker could have used either chemicals or relaxation/meditation techniques to keep his heartbeat level low enough?]] Then again, ''that'' doesn't explain how Bats' Detective Mode can pick up unconscious mooks' heartbeats and [[AustinPowers oh no I've]] [[MemeticMutation gone cross-eyed.]]

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** That idea actually doesn't work, because as shown later in the game, when you see [[spoiler:Clayface Joker]] in combat, he appears [[spoiler:without any bones. So unless he can form bones inside of his shape-shifted body, the best idea here so far is that dying Joker was just waiting there with a rigged heartbeat monitor.]] Maybe Batman's Detective mode only picks up heartbeat levels between a certain value? That way [[spoiler:the Joker could have used either chemicals or relaxation/meditation techniques to keep his heartbeat level low enough?]] Then again, ''that'' doesn't explain how Bats' Detective Mode can pick up unconscious mooks' heartbeats and [[AustinPowers [[Film/AustinPowers oh no I've]] [[MemeticMutation gone cross-eyed.]]
26th Oct '16 11:12:11 AM nobodyimportant1
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** Yes, but Strange and Ra's specifically mentioned their intentions to rule the world. You don't take over the planet by becoming a hero to the populace. Becoming a local hero conveys no authority. And even if it did, they only say that they're going to do it in 3 places. No matter how important said places are, 3 places does not equal world domination. Plus, they wouldn't really be able to do something like Arkham city more than a few times. After that if anyone suggested doing it in another population center, they’d be refused <script id="gpt-impl-0.09940968094446872" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_78.js"></script>because everyone would know about how badly that idea had worked the first 3 times. Also Ra's mentioned "wiping the world Clean" which I assume is referring to his usual goal of killing millions of people in order to save those who are left from Eco-disaster. How does setting yourself up as a hero of the people aid you in a quest that will end in the murder of thousands of said innocents?

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** Yes, but Strange and Ra's specifically mentioned their intentions to rule the world. You don't take over the planet by becoming a hero to the populace. Becoming a local hero conveys no authority. And even if it did, they only say that they're going to do it in 3 places. No matter how important said places are, 3 places does not equal world domination. Plus, they wouldn't really be able to do something like Arkham city more than a few times. After that if anyone suggested doing it in another population center, they’d be refused <script id="gpt-impl-0.09940968094446872" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_78.js"></script>because because everyone would know about how badly that idea had worked the first 3 times. Also Ra's mentioned "wiping the world Clean" which I assume is referring to his usual goal of killing millions of people in order to save those who are left from Eco-disaster. How does setting yourself up as a hero of the people aid you in a quest that will end in the murder of thousands of said innocents?
19th Oct '16 7:35:14 AM dlchen145
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* Something that has always bugged me about Strange; the man's an idiot. Throughout Protocol 10, he keeps saying to Batman that he's won, even though Batman's not dead (as Strange had planned) and is now coming to stop him. Even the Joker is sane enough to realize that when Batman's foiled your plan, escaped your death trap, beaten up your guards and is standing RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE, your options are either [[VillainousBreakdown crying]] or [[NotSoFastBucko pulling out your secret weapon.]] For Joker (in Asylum) it was [[spoiler:exposing himself to TITAN.]] Strange...doesn't have one. Now I know most of this can be shrugged off with "[[SanityHasAdvantages he's insane]]", but there's one specific thing that he says that doesn’t make sense, even for him. When Batman is on the elevator up to Strange's tower to commence Operation F-Up-Evil-Plan, Strange tells Batman that eventually, Batman will kneel before him, and beg for mercy. [[FlatWhat What?]] Strange is a psychologist ''genius''. He used his skill to figure out Batman's identity. Therefore, he should KNOW with clarity that few villains understand that [[{{Badass}} Batman's]] about as likely to beg him for mercy as he is to give up the evil plan and open a candy store.

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* Something that has always bugged me about Strange; the man's an idiot. Throughout Protocol 10, he keeps saying to Batman that he's won, even though Batman's not dead (as Strange had planned) and is now coming to stop him. Even the Joker is sane enough to realize that when Batman's foiled your plan, escaped your death trap, beaten up your guards and is standing RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE, your options are either [[VillainousBreakdown crying]] or [[NotSoFastBucko pulling out your secret weapon.]] For Joker (in Asylum) it was [[spoiler:exposing himself to TITAN.]] Strange...doesn't have one. Now I know most of this can be shrugged off with "[[SanityHasAdvantages he's insane]]", but there's one specific thing that he says that doesn’t make sense, even for him. When Batman is on the elevator up to Strange's tower to commence Operation F-Up-Evil-Plan, Strange tells Batman that eventually, Batman will kneel before him, and beg for mercy. [[FlatWhat What?]] Strange is a psychologist ''genius''. He used his skill to figure out Batman's identity. Therefore, he should KNOW with clarity that few villains understand that [[{{Badass}} Batman's]] Batman's about as likely to beg him for mercy as he is to give up the evil plan and open a candy store.
2nd Aug '16 2:22:55 PM SeanRenaud
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**Batman isn't entirely rational when it comes to the Joker. If we look at Batman: Under the Red Hood and his general behavior we can piece together a reason. Batman: Under the Red Hood has a conversation that can be summed up as Batman won't kill Joker because he knows that once he's crossed that line he'll find a way to justify killing the rest of the rogues. If we're being honest depending on the setting there are others who deserve it nearly as much as Joker. It doesn't seem like a stretch to think that Batman looks at every single missed punch, every time he didn't put the pieces together properly instantly and wonders if maybe he didn't slow down because this was what he wanted all along. Of course this is more a theory than backed by the game.
30th Jul '16 3:44:15 PM MMTrigger
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* Is it just me or are Instant Takedowns on Ra's' ninjas not as violent as on thugs ? Why ?

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* Is it just me or are Instant Takedowns on Ra's' ninjas not as violent as on thugs ? Why ?thugs? Why?



** Doesn't Penguin's audio says that she's quite tough ?

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** Doesn't Penguin's audio says that she's quite tough ?tough?
** The game's rating would instantly hit mature if Batman fought women as violently as he does men.


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** Chances are water blocks Detective Mode in large amounts. You couldn't track Croc back in the asylum either.
2nd Jul '16 9:43:08 AM Doug86
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** Or it happened something like in TheDarkKnightRises, and [[spoiler: Bruce managed to get up by himself before too much damage went down]]. Hopefully not too much like it, though, or Gothamites will get pretty damn jaded with [[spoiler: the city being held hostage]].

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** Or it happened something like in TheDarkKnightRises, ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', and [[spoiler: Bruce managed to get up by himself before too much damage went down]]. Hopefully not too much like it, though, or Gothamites will get pretty damn jaded with [[spoiler: the city being held hostage]].
28th Jun '16 5:45:07 PM Doug86
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** Not just in two random cities, either. Metropolis and Keystone. Not only are they a shining example of human achievement and a blue-collar traditional city respectively (and therefore nowhere close to having the mindset of Gotham), they are the homes of {{Superman}} and Franchise/TheFlash. In other words, they want to have an Arkham City in the towns of two of the worlds most powerful and idealistic superheroes, and they don't see this going badly for them.

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** Not just in two random cities, either. Metropolis and Keystone. Not only are they a shining example of human achievement and a blue-collar traditional city respectively (and therefore nowhere close to having the mindset of Gotham), they are the homes of {{Superman}} Franchise/{{Superman}} and Franchise/TheFlash. In other words, they want to have an Arkham City in the towns of two of the worlds world's most powerful and idealistic superheroes, and they don't see this going badly for them.
8th Jun '16 4:23:29 PM ShaSam
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* Is R'as really pronounced as ''Raysh''? I always thought you said it like ''Razz'' or ''Roz''

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* Is R'as Ra's really pronounced as ''Raysh''? I always thought you said it like ''Razz'' or ''Roz''


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** Possibly. No one knows the Joker's real origin story, not even the Joker himself. In the interviews with Strange though, it is in fact the Ace Chemicals building.
23rd May '16 6:38:31 PM Anddrix
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** Pretty much this and escalation: As ComicBook/BatmanYearOne and ComicBook/TheLongHalloween demonstrate before Batman came to Gotham the criminal underworld was run primarily by traditional mob families. But once Batman came to town the 'freaks' like SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker started popping out of the woodworks. Some gaining power due to the Mob beginning to rely on them to deal with problems.

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** Pretty much this and escalation: As ComicBook/BatmanYearOne and ComicBook/TheLongHalloween demonstrate before Batman came to Gotham the criminal underworld was run primarily by traditional mob families. But once Batman came to town the 'freaks' like SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker started popping out of the woodworks. Some gaining power due to the Mob beginning to rely on them to deal with problems.



** Batman is absolutely the type of person to share that kind of information; since when has he ever let psychotic lunatics off the hook just because they are a VillainWithGoodPublicity ? He'd expose him the first chance he got. It’s simply lack of evidence that stops him, though one wonders why he couldn't leak the little he has. The main problem with this premise is that there are multiple witnesses to the fact that ''Batman'' was the one who saved the day- including the Police Commissioner and several Arkham guards-; and, the fact that the breakout happened on Sharpe's watch should kind of affect the idea that he is supposed to have put an end to it, since one would think people would wonder if his negligence was part of the problem in the first place (though, to be fair, Gotham might have realized by then that no amount of security is good enough for SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker).

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** Batman is absolutely the type of person to share that kind of information; since when has he ever let psychotic lunatics off the hook just because they are a VillainWithGoodPublicity ? He'd expose him the first chance he got. It’s simply lack of evidence that stops him, though one wonders why he couldn't leak the little he has. The main problem with this premise is that there are multiple witnesses to the fact that ''Batman'' was the one who saved the day- including the Police Commissioner and several Arkham guards-; and, the fact that the breakout happened on Sharpe's watch should kind of affect the idea that he is supposed to have put an end to it, since one would think people would wonder if his negligence was part of the problem in the first place (though, to be fair, Gotham might have realized by then that no amount of security is good enough for SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker).ComicBook/TheJoker).
21st Apr '16 5:37:06 PM SubbyP
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** Being abducted by a maniac is scary even if he's not a ''homicidal'' maniac.



** Gotham has a waterfront. When nature calls, or when your personal funk becomes intolerable, you can just grab a buddy and have him stand guard while you take care of business. If you don't ''have'' any friends, yeah, you're screwed, but without friends you won't last long in Arkham City anyway.

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** Gotham has a waterfront. When nature calls, or when your personal funk becomes intolerable, you can just grab a buddy and have him stand guard while you take care of business. There's even plenty of paper lying around in the form of posters and newspapers. The Ratcatcher was running a trade in soap, deodorant, toothpaste, and other hygiene items before Penguin had him shut down, so some of that is still probably floating around, not to mention whatever can be scavenged from abandoned apartments and offices. If you don't ''have'' any friends, yeah, you're screwed, but without friends you won't last long in Arkham City anyway.
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