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** The characters should know that they are likely to be hostile, as New York was just attacked by a similar ship. Presumably, after that attack, all of Earth's defense forces are under a state of emergency. So when a new set of spaceships arrive soon after, they would presume its not a coincidence that these ships just coincidentally happened to arrive within days after the previous hostile ship. So yeah, it makes no sense they would wait for hours to analyse the data instead of reporting the arrival of the ships right away.

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** The characters should know that they are likely to be hostile, as New York was just attacked by a similar ship. Presumably, after that attack, all of Earth's defense forces are under a state of emergency. So when a new set of spaceships arrive soon after, they would presume wouldn't think its not merely a coincidence that these ships just coincidentally happened to arrive within days after the previous hostile ship. So yeah, it makes no sense they would wait for hours to analyse the data instead of reporting the arrival of the ships right away.
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** The characters should know that they are likely to be hostile, as New York was just attacked by a similar ship. Presumably, after that attack, all of Earth's defense forces are under a state of emergency. So when a new set of spaceships arrive soon after, they would presume its not a coincidence that these ships just coincidentally happened to arrive within days after the previous hostile ship. So yeah, it makes no sense they would wait for hours to analyse the data instead of reporting the arrival of the ships right away.
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** Its a general concern brought up many times in many places. Thanos's solution is ineffective even in short term, let alone long term. As to why he wouldn't consider population densities, he believes that excessive resource consumption is a far greater problem than population density, which is easier to resolve in comparison. Also, his sense of fairness would not allow him to exclude those living in the countryside.
** More specifically, the best case scenario is that Thanos hits a society when it's just past a threshold where their extinction is imminent, but the sudden cull comes in time to noticeably save them. Such a society might then be inclined to do as Thanos wishes. More plausibly, Thanos' efforts are either negligible -- the world population is nearly 8 billion now, and reached 4 billion in 1974, meaning he'd only forestall doom by 40 years -- or accidentally catastrophic. Thanos specifies his plan is to essentially rely on a lottery system. Across the cosmos, this means he's doomed worlds to extinction by, for instance, killing too many women for the world to survive, or putting down almost all doctors.

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** Its a general concern brought up many times in many places. Thanos's solution is ineffective even in the short term, let alone the long term. As to why he wouldn't consider Killing half the population densities, he believes that excessive resource consumption is may seem like a far greater problem than lot, but this knocks 2018 Earth's population density, which is easier down to resolve around 4 billion, or approximately the same population it had in comparison. Also, his sense 1974. Assuming Thanos only cared about sheer numbers, he's bought Earth a couple of fairness would not allow him decades at most. But it's hard to exclude those living justify Thanos caring about anything else ''but'' sheer numbers, when if he took literally the ''slightest'' interest in the countryside.
innumerable factors that could affect his plan, he'd see it was doomed from the get-go.
** More specifically, the best case scenario is that Thanos hits a society when it's just past a the threshold where their extinction is imminent, imminent from overpopulation, but the sudden cull comes in time to noticeably save them. Such a society might then be inclined to do as Thanos wishes. More plausibly, Thanos' efforts are either negligible -- the world population is nearly 8 billion now, and reached 4 billion in 1974, meaning he'd only forestall doom by 40 years -- or accidentally catastrophic. Thanos specifies his plan is to essentially rely on a lottery system. Across the cosmos, this means he's doomed worlds to extinction by, for instance, killing too many women for the world to survive, or putting down almost all doctors.
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** Nebula spends all of her time ''away'' from the good guys, and she doesn't even know Doctor Strange. Plus, nowhere have we seen Doctor Strange's abilities include healing.
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* At one point Nebula mentioned her cyborg parts leave her in constant pain. After she [[HeelFaceTurn turns good]], why don't the good guys try to help or some how? I would think Doctor Strange could heal her or something like that.

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* At one point Nebula mentioned her cyborg parts leave her in constant pain. After she [[HeelFaceTurn turns good]], why don't the good guys try to help or some how? I would think Doctor Strange could heal her or something like that.
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* At one point Nebula mentioned her cyborg parts leave her in constant pain. After she [[HeelFaceTurn turns good]], why don't the good guys try to help or some how? I would think Doctor Strange could heal her or something like that.
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** Even people who don't really know much about comic books know that important characters tend to come back to life sooner or later. But even for cynical hardcore comic book fans, that doesn't diminish the emotional impact in the moment if the film is well-crafted. Knowing that Peter Parker will be alive and well for his sequel didn't diminish the emotional impact of watching a scared child fade to dust in the arms of his surrogate father for this troper.

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** Even people who don't really know much about comic books know that important characters tend to come back to life sooner or later. But even for cynical hardcore comic book fans, that doesn't diminish the emotional impact in the moment if the film is well-crafted. Knowing that Peter Parker will be alive and well for his sequel didn't diminish the emotional impact of watching a scared child fade to dust in the arms of his surrogate father for this troper.
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* Christopher Markus and Stephen [=McFeely=], the screenwriters of ''Infinity War'', firmly believe that the Mad Titan is the main "hero". This is what [=McFeely=] says about him: "[Thanos] is the protagonist. He overcomes odds. He sacrifices a lot and gets what he wants in the end. <...> At the end of Act 2, something bad was going to happen to Thanos. That's when [Gamora] goes over the cliff... It's the worst thing that can happen to him, but it's a necessary evil to get what he wants." This troper's question is: ''Is all of this will be enough to consider Thanos as a full-fledged protagonist''?

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* Christopher Markus and Stephen [=McFeely=], the screenwriters of ''Infinity War'', firmly believe that the Mad Titan is the main "hero". This is what [=McFeely=] says about him: "[Thanos] is the protagonist. He overcomes odds. He sacrifices a lot and gets what he wants in the end. <...> At the end of Act 2, something bad was going to happen to Thanos. That's when [Gamora] goes over the cliff... It's the worst thing that can happen to him, but it's a necessary evil to get what he wants." This troper's question Question is: ''Is all of this will be enough to consider Thanos as a full-fledged protagonist''?

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* 1) Etri usually worked with other dwarves. Maybe they had a workflow where Etri and others operated the forge and someone else selected and fit the handle, and when he finished the molding process realized that no one had the handle ready. Also, it only became extremely urgent to find the handle immediately because Thor was dying. 2) Stormbreaker is a magic axe. It likely has RequiredSecondarySuperpowers preventing it from ripping itself apart during use.

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* 1) Etri usually worked with other dwarves. Maybe they had a workflow where Etri and others operated the forge and someone else selected and fit the handle, and when he finished the molding process realized that no one had the handle ready. Also, it only became extremely urgent to find the handle immediately because Thor was dying. 2) Stormbreaker is a magic axe. It likely has RequiredSecondarySuperpowers {{Required Secondary Power}}s preventing it from ripping itself apart during use.


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As pointed out in this [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKMTHW6qfSw HISHE]], instead of sending Hulk to Earth, Heimdall could have easily used the Bifrost on Thanos and the Black Order to cast them out into the middle of space or a star if a precise location is needed. Thanos didn't get the Space Stone until he was finished with Loki in that period of time so they don't have to worry about them coming back. Was it because he is worrying about the ''Sanctuary II'' and possibility of the Odinson siblings being caught in the blast range?
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** It has been pointed out by numerous people that Thanos' plan is utterly and completely flawed and stupid,it would only make complete sense to a sociopath like Thanos, wiping out half the universe would actually make us use resources ''faster'' to pick up the slack, the only reason it worked on Gamoras home was that Thanos was there to personally give the terms of the half-genocide to her people, who probably worked out a form of population control after Thanos left, the rest of the universe got no such thing, just suddenly people just crumbled, only the people of Earth knew what was actually going on, due to the remaining Avengers probably telling the governments what happened.
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** The shield wasn't lowered, a section was opened to create a choke point. They were worried about being outflanked because for every outrider that the shield killed 2-4 more were able to tear through it. Dozens of the things were able to breach it and those were the ones in front of them. Besides as Corvus proved they had a way to penetrate the force field anyway.


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** The outriders' numbers seemed to be infinite so things would have broken down into a melee battle anyway. Cull didn't infiltrate anything. He marched right in beside Proxima.


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** You can see Thanos "drop an anchor" on the spot that Vision died so that the use of the stone only affected him.


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** Doctor Strange easily could've stopped him if he wanted to, but remember he saw 14,000,605 possible outcomes where they only win one. Obviously in at least a few of those futures Strange (or someone else) did stop Quill but in those same timelines Thanos wins. It was all a part of Strange's plan.
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*** It wouldn't have worked, as shown in Avengers Endgame, [[spoiler: Thanos managed to take on Thor, Captain America, and Iron Man all at once and defeat them without one infinity stone. If they got that off Thanos would've gone berserk and gotten it back.]]
** Thanos' skin is almost impenetrable, this was confirmed by the Russos so cutting his arm off with the sling ring would've failed.
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** It's pretty obvious, taking off the gauntlet would ruin the plan, Doctor Strange saw 14,000,605 futures and could've stopped Quill from punching Thanos. There are quite a few abilities he could've used to stop this but he didn't. That is because in the timelines where they failed (or at least a few of them) Quill didn't punch Thanos and the gauntlet came off. But as shown in Avengers Endgame [[spoiler:Thanos is the only one strong enough to use the gauntlet thus negating the possibilities of what the heroes could do if they got it off.]] Strange's real plan involved making sure the necessary heroes survived long enough to undo Thanos' snap.


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** It is not Quill's fault at all, one way means one way. Anyone would have that reaction if they met a psychopathic alien who murdered the person they love.
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** Rhodey initially tried to reason with Ross instead of simply being needlessly combative. Logically, if there is indication that there's an event so potentially catastrophic that there's not enough time for bureaucracy, Ross might be willing to listen to someone with Rhodes' credentials who actually signed the Accords. But Ross is operating on his own brand of HonorBeforeReason . But Rhodey knew what was at stake and he would not be party to arresting a group of people who could potentially save billions of lives. Quitting? Would have been a nice gesture but given what was happening quitting would have been symbolic and little else. Just like the court martial. If Rhodes had quit at some point, he would have been escorted away from the Avengers Facility (he could have fought back and made a mess but that would have been bad for everyone), and would have been unable to supply the rogue Avengers with things they needed for the forthcoming battle, as well. So basically, Rhodey needed 1) to still be able to talk to Ross and attempt to reason, and 2) have access to resources. That's basically why he couldn't quit.

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** Thanos would have killed Stark right then and there, and then gone on to continue murdering half of every planet he came across as he had been doing before—only this time armed with ''four'' Infinity Stones. Things would likely have been far, far worse in the long run. Think about how the Avengers in Wakanda were powerless to stop him when he literally only used three stones. What would have happened if he were actually trying to kill them?[[/folder]]

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** Thanos would have killed Stark right then and there, and then gone on to continue murdering half of every planet he came across as he had been doing before—only this time armed with ''four'' Infinity Stones. Things would likely have been far, far worse in the long run. Think about how the Avengers in Wakanda were powerless to stop him when he literally only used three stones. What would have happened if he were actually trying to kill them?[[/folder]]
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Can't help but wonder why didn't Eitri, who's clearly very experienced, have the handle ready instead of realizing he didn't have it at literally the last minute? Considering how much effort it took to forge Stormbreaker and how it was essentially a one-shot only attempt, it was a ''huge'' oversight. Also, how can Groot's arm, which he severed to make the handle, be able to withstand the forces of Thor using Stormbreaker without shattering into a million pieces? Groot's tough, but it's shown multiple times that he's not invulnerable and takes damage. [[/folder]]

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Can't help but wonder why didn't Eitri, who's clearly very experienced, have the handle ready instead of realizing he didn't have it at literally the last minute? Considering how much effort it took to forge Stormbreaker and how it was essentially a one-shot only attempt, it was a ''huge'' oversight. Also, how can Groot's arm, which he severed to make the handle, be able to withstand the forces of Thor using Stormbreaker without shattering into a million pieces? Groot's tough, but it's shown multiple times that he's not invulnerable and takes damage.
* 1) Etri usually worked with other dwarves. Maybe they had a workflow where Etri and others operated the forge and someone else selected and fit the handle, and when he finished the molding process realized that no one had the handle ready. Also, it only became extremely urgent to find the handle immediately because Thor was dying. 2) Stormbreaker is a magic axe. It likely has RequiredSecondarySuperpowers preventing it from ripping itself apart during use.
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** It's still a regular public school (just with more Advanced Placement type classes) for (mostly) regular kids, not Film/SkyHigh. Hence, regular school buses. Or another way to look at it: it's ''a'' school for gifted youngsters, not ''the'' [[Franchise/XMen School For Gifted Youngsters.]]

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** It's still a regular public school (just with more Advanced Placement type classes) for (mostly) regular kids, not Film/SkyHigh.Film/SkyHigh2005. Hence, regular school buses. Or another way to look at it: it's ''a'' school for gifted youngsters, not ''the'' [[Franchise/XMen School For Gifted Youngsters.]]
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Why did Loki wait until ''after'' Thanos inserted the Space Stone into the Gauntlet to make the painfully obvious assassination attempt? Furthermore, why give him the real thing? As a MasterOfIllusion, it should have been trivial for him to conjure up a fake Tesseract and then go for the neckstab against a distracted Thanos while he was reaching out for it. Then teleport himself and Thor out of there while everyone's startled.
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Can't help but wonder why didn't Eitri, who's clearly very experienced, have the handle ready instead of realizing he didn't have it at literally the last minute? Considering how much effort it took to forge StormBreaker and how it was essentially a one-shot only attempt, it was a ''huge'' oversight. Also, how can Groot's arm, which he severed to make the handle, be able to withstand the forces of Thor using StormBreaker without shattering into a million pieces? Groot's tough, but it's shown multiple times that he's not invulnerable and takes damage. [[/folder]]

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Can't help but wonder why didn't Eitri, who's clearly very experienced, have the handle ready instead of realizing he didn't have it at literally the last minute? Considering how much effort it took to forge StormBreaker Stormbreaker and how it was essentially a one-shot only attempt, it was a ''huge'' oversight. Also, how can Groot's arm, which he severed to make the handle, be able to withstand the forces of Thor using StormBreaker Stormbreaker without shattering into a million pieces? Groot's tough, but it's shown multiple times that he's not invulnerable and takes damage. [[/folder]]
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Can't help but wonder why didn't Eitri, who's clearly very experienced, have the handle ready instead of realizing he didn't have it at literally the last minute? Considering how much effort it took to forge StormBreaker and how it was essentially a one-shot only attempt, it was a ''huge'' oversight. Also, how can Groot's arm, which he severed to make the handle, be able to withstand the forces of Thor using StormBreaker without shattering into a million pieces? Groot's tough, but it's shown multiple times that he's not invulnerable and takes damage.

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Can't help but wonder why didn't Eitri, who's clearly very experienced, have the handle ready instead of realizing he didn't have it at literally the last minute? Considering how much effort it took to forge StormBreaker and how it was essentially a one-shot only attempt, it was a ''huge'' oversight. Also, how can Groot's arm, which he severed to make the handle, be able to withstand the forces of Thor using StormBreaker without shattering into a million pieces? Groot's tough, but it's shown multiple times that he's not invulnerable and takes damage.
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Can't help but wonder why didn't Eitri, who's clearly very experienced, have the handle ready instead of realizing he didn't have it at literally the last minute? Considering how much effort it took to forge StormBreaker and how it was essentially a one-shot only attempt, it was a ''huge'' oversight. Also, how can Groot's arm, which he severed to make the handle, be able to withstand the forces of Thor using StormBreaker without shattering into a million pieces? Groot's tough, but it's shown multiple times that he's not invulnerable and takes damage.
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I know it must have failed in one of the 14 million outcomes he saw, but why? How could Thanos have possibly gotten the Time Stone and carried out the snap if Strange hadn't given it up?

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* I know it must have failed in one of the 14 million outcomes he saw, but why? How could Thanos have possibly gotten the Time Stone and carried out the snap if Strange hadn't given it up?

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** Thanos would have killed Stark right then and there, and then gone on to continue murdering half of every planet he came across as he had been doing before—only this time armed with ''four'' Infinity Stones. Things would likely have been far, far worse in the long run. Think about how the Avengers in Wakanda were powerless to stop him when he literally only used three stones. What would have happened if he were actually trying to kill them?[[/folder]]
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I know it must have failed in one of the 14 million outcomes he saw, but why? How could Thanos have possibly gotten the Time Stone and carried out the snap if Strange hadn't given it up?

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** Unlike Thanos, Banner would probably take that into account, to the point of either moving the returned someplace safer, or reconstructing the vehicles if necessary.

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Crosses with NightmareFuel, but in general, what is the criteria to where to put peopleback that the stones used? Infinity War shows explicitly a helicopter without a pilot. Are they going to come back in the sky and fall to their deaths? In the ground? What if it was a travelling over water? Would they appear back in the destroyed and properly repurposed wreckage after five years? How about spaceships far away from any planet??
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** The thing is, we don't know how far he went. For all we know, Loki only managed to teleport himself a couple blocks away, which isn't useful when the only place you have to go is in the middle of space.
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** Yes, he could have. And he knew how to do it back in [[spoiler: 2012, according to Endgame.]]

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** Yes, he could have. And he knew how to do it back in [[spoiler: 2012, according to Endgame.]]



*** [[spoiler: As of ''Endgame'', it's evident that the timing of the Snap ''did'' have to be '''extremely''' precise. Specifically, it had to coincide ''exactly'' with the very brief time Scott Lang had intended to spend in the Quantum Realm during the ''Ant-Man and the Wasp'' stinger.]]

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*** [[spoiler: As of ''Endgame'', it's evident that the timing of the Snap ''did'' have to be '''extremely''' precise. Specifically, it had to coincide ''exactly'' with the very brief time Scott Lang had intended to spend in the Quantum Realm during the ''Ant-Man and the Wasp'' stinger.]]



** In [[Film/AvengersEndgame Avengers: Endgame]], we finally see how the winning scenario plays out. [[spoiler:After snatching all 6 stones from Thanos, Tony Stark used them on to snap Thanos and his entire army out of existence, even though it costs him his life]]. It perfectly makes sense for Strange to conclude that this is the best outcome they could have, even without seeing what will happen farther down this timeline.

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** In [[Film/AvengersEndgame Avengers: Endgame]], we finally see how the winning scenario plays out. [[spoiler:After After snatching all 6 stones from Thanos, Tony Stark used them on to snap Thanos and his entire army out of existence, even though it costs him his life]].life. It perfectly makes sense for Strange to conclude that this is the best outcome they could have, even without seeing what will happen farther down this timeline.
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*** [[spoiler: As of ''Endgame'', it's evident that the timing of the Snap ''did'' have to be '''extremely''' precise. Specifically, it had to coincide ''exactly'' with the very brief time Scott Lang had intended to spend in the Quantum Realm during the ''Ant-Man and the Wasp'' stinger.]]
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*** Indeed, ''sparing'' the more bloodthirsty races might seem more in keeping with Thanos's twisted agenda, as those are the races that probably '''would''' approve of his original scheme of killing half of Titan's population to save the rest. At least, so long as the individuals in charge would be the ones choosing who lives and who dies, rather than leaving the selection process to chance.


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** Could be he searched until he found a viable outcome for eventual victory, then kept on searching for a ''less costly'' path to victory until such time as the Stone started showing him futures where they failed ''because he'd wasted too much time viewing possible futures''.
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** According to Del Toro the Collector is indeed still alive and survived the encounter with Thanos. Presumably after Thanos got the stone he bailed and was long gone by the time the Guardians got there.

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