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* Basically the entire China campaign in AOEIII. Let's see......
** Ming Dynasty using the flag of Qing Dynasty
** Zheng He's fleet discovered America. Yes, some do claim it in RealLife, but going to America through Africa and Atlantic Ocean is pushing it quite a bit.
** After the aforementioned discoveries, the evil eunuch allied with the native Americans and tried to build his own empire. Communication problems aside, the idea of an eunuch building an Empire is just over the top.
*** You got that wrong. The bad guy was an [[TheEvilPrince evil prince]]. No one was identified as an eunuch, but if there was one it was probably the Zheng-He expy maincharacter, Admiral Jinhai.
** At the end of the campaign, Zheng's men somehow managed to erase their existence on America. Technical problems, like how exactly is it possible, aside, why would they do so? I know the Chinese are not into the colony business, but...... why?
*** The Chinese didn't want to accidentally tip the balance of things in Latin America. And can you imagine what will happen if the Europeans reaching the New World finds Chinese Artifacts? History in that timeline will be proven that if one just keeps going east, you will find China. Look on the bright side, at least spices can be cultivated...
** The Indian campaign made a big deal of the soldiers not wanting to use the pork/beef fat loaded cartridges for the enfield rifles. The protagonist also refuses to use the rifle. Until he is ordered to by his British commander. Whom he then attempts to shoot. And the sepoys all pick up their rifles and fire on the British with the same rifles they refused to use moments earlier. What?
** Also, the Montezuma campaign in AOEII, which ends with the Aztecs driving the Spanish away and rebuilding their civilisation. Yeah, ''that's not how it happened.''
*** The campaigns all end well for the people youre playing as, they are supposed to be alternate histories.
*** Actually, this troper always thought the ending implied they were wiped out anyway.
*** Yup, pretty much it says: Yes, we pushed out the spaniards this time.... but what will we do when they'll come back again?
*** The aztec empire appears in AOEIII and the spaniards are still trying to conquer it, so maybe is just an alternate history where Cortes was defeated.
*** It's not the only campaign that ends with the player winning a battle that was lost in real history. The other two are William Wallace winning the Battle of Falkirk and Frederic Barbarossa taking Jerusalem.
* In the second game ''hitting a building with swords'' causes it to light on fire. The third game suffers from a glitch in which units may be trapped in limbo underwater or off the edge of the map for the entire game with no feasible way to use them against opponents.
** Maybe the sword created friction against the side of the building, creating sparks and igniting the wood?
** Stop questioning! WOLOLOLOLO WOLOLOLOLO
* All the FarEast civilizations in AOEIII need to build particular building to advance to the next age. No big deal, but the idea that the Confucius academy produce ''siege engines'' makes no sense.
** It's an abstraction of your civilization gaining the general level of knowladge and organised scholarship needed to sustain a complex siegeworks industry.
* In the second game, archers upgrades to crossbowmen. However, what about all those civilizations that never had crossbows in the first place? and why Spanish have no access to crossbows at all?
** On the second one: For balancing issues. The Spanish main feature is that they are extremely weak in the early ages but insanely powerful in the latter ones.
* In-Wiki one regarding VideoGame/AgeOfEmpiresII: on the normal page there's a ShownTheirWork, fine... then on the YMMV page, we get a lovely, overly long CriticalResearchFailure entry with lots of people bitching about the various details that , considering the above mentioned ShownTheirWork entry/whatever it is, are quite forgettable when you consider the insane amount of work it'll take to pay attention to every single detail. And yet, the tropers there talks as if the programmers or whoever was behind it was genuinely ignorant of the whole thing. Can't you just make up your mind?
** This is why those entries are in the YMMV page instead of the Main page. The warning at the top clearly states that "not everyone sees these things in the same way."
* In the first game, most of the units have a distinct greek-roman style, but how this works with other people like Assiryan or Shang?
* Why does everyone say that Forgotten and African Kingdoms are official, despite the fact that they weren't developed by Ensemble?
** Microsoft is the owner of the series and can publish official games without Ensemble.

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* Basically the entire China campaign in AOEIII. Let's see......
** Ming Dynasty using the flag of Qing Dynasty
** Zheng He's fleet discovered America. Yes, some do claim it in RealLife, but going to America through Africa and Atlantic Ocean is pushing it quite a bit.
** After the aforementioned discoveries, the evil eunuch allied with the native Americans and tried to build his own empire. Communication problems aside, the idea of an eunuch building an Empire is just over the top.
*** You got that wrong. The bad guy was an [[TheEvilPrince evil prince]]. No one was identified as an eunuch, but if there was one it was probably the Zheng-He expy maincharacter, Admiral Jinhai.
** At the end of the campaign, Zheng's men somehow managed to erase their existence on America. Technical problems, like how exactly is it possible, aside, why would they do so? I know the Chinese are not into the colony business, but...... why?
*** The Chinese didn't want to accidentally tip the balance of things in Latin America. And can you imagine what will happen if the Europeans reaching the New World finds Chinese Artifacts? History in that timeline will be proven that if one just keeps going east, you will find China. Look on the bright side, at least spices can be cultivated...
** The Indian campaign made a big deal of the soldiers not wanting to use the pork/beef fat loaded cartridges for the enfield rifles. The protagonist also refuses to use the rifle. Until he is ordered to by his British commander. Whom he then attempts to shoot. And the sepoys all pick up their rifles and fire on the British with the same rifles they refused to use moments earlier. What?
** Also, the Montezuma campaign in AOEII, which ends with the Aztecs driving the Spanish away and rebuilding their civilisation. Yeah, ''that's not how it happened.''
*** The campaigns all end well for the people youre playing as, they are supposed to be alternate histories.
*** Actually, this troper always thought the ending implied they were wiped out anyway.
*** Yup, pretty much it says: Yes, we pushed out the spaniards this time.... but what will we do when they'll come back again?
*** The aztec empire appears in AOEIII and the spaniards are still trying to conquer it, so maybe is just an alternate history where Cortes was defeated.
*** It's not the only campaign that ends with the player winning a battle that was lost in real history. The other two are William Wallace winning the Battle of Falkirk and Frederic Barbarossa taking Jerusalem.
''Headscratchers/AgeOfEmpiresI''
* In the second game ''hitting a building with swords'' causes it to light on fire. The third game suffers from a glitch in which units may be trapped in limbo underwater or off the edge of the map for the entire game with no feasible way to use them against opponents.
** Maybe the sword created friction against the side of the building, creating sparks and igniting the wood?
** Stop questioning! WOLOLOLOLO WOLOLOLOLO
''Headscratchers/AgeOfEmpiresII''
* All the FarEast civilizations in AOEIII need to build particular building to advance to the next age. No big deal, but the idea that the Confucius academy produce ''siege engines'' makes no sense.
** It's an abstraction of your civilization gaining the general level of knowladge and organised scholarship needed to sustain a complex siegeworks industry.
''Headscratchers/AgeOfMythology''
* In the second game, archers upgrades to crossbowmen. However, what about all those civilizations that never had crossbows in the first place? and why Spanish have no access to crossbows at all?
** On the second one: For balancing issues. The Spanish main feature is that they are extremely weak in the early ages but insanely powerful in the latter ones.
* In-Wiki one regarding VideoGame/AgeOfEmpiresII: on the normal page there's a ShownTheirWork, fine... then on the YMMV page, we get a lovely, overly long CriticalResearchFailure entry with lots of people bitching about the various details that , considering the above mentioned ShownTheirWork entry/whatever it is, are quite forgettable when you consider the insane amount of work it'll take to pay attention to every single detail. And yet, the tropers there talks as if the programmers or whoever was behind it was genuinely ignorant of the whole thing. Can't you just make up your mind?
** This is why those entries are in the YMMV page instead of the Main page. The warning at the top clearly states that "not everyone sees these things in the same way."
* In the first game, most of the units have a distinct greek-roman style, but how this works with other people like Assiryan or Shang?
* Why does everyone say that Forgotten and African Kingdoms are official, despite the fact that they weren't developed by Ensemble?
** Microsoft is the owner of the series and can publish official games without Ensemble.
''Headscratchers/AgeOfEmpiresIII''
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*** The aztec empire appears in AOEIII and the spaniards are still trying to conquer it, so maybe is just an alternate history where Cortes was defeated.



* Why does everyone say that Forgotten and African Kingdoms are official, despite the fact that they weren't developed by Ensemble?

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* Why does everyone say that Forgotten and African Kingdoms are official, despite the fact that they weren't developed by Ensemble?Ensemble?
** Microsoft is the owner of the series and can publish official games without Ensemble.
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* In the first game, most of the units have a distinct greek-roman style, but how this works with other people like Assiryan or Shang?

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* In the first game, most of the units have a distinct greek-roman style, but how this works with other people like Assiryan or Shang?Shang?
* Why does everyone say that Forgotten and African Kingdoms are official, despite the fact that they weren't developed by Ensemble?
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**The Indian campaign made a big deal of the soldiers not wanting to use the pork/beef fat loaded cartridges for the enfield rifles. The protagonist also refuses to use the rifle. Until he is ordered to by his British commander. Whom he then attempts to shoot. And the sepoys all pick up their rifles and fire on the British with the same rifles they refused to use moments earlier. What?
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** This is why those entries are in the YMMV page instead of the Main Page. The warning at the top clearly states that "not everyone sees these things in the same way."

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** This is why those entries are in the YMMV page instead of the Main Page.page. The warning at the top clearly states that "not everyone sees these things in the same way."
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** This is why those entries are in the [[YourMileageMayVary YMMV]] page instead of the Main Page. The warning at the top clearly states that "not everyone sees these things in the same way."

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** This is why those entries are in the [[YourMileageMayVary YMMV]] YMMV page instead of the Main Page. The warning at the top clearly states that "not everyone sees these things in the same way."
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** This is why those entries are in the [[YMMV YMMV]] page instead of the Main Page. The warning at the top clearly states that "not everyone sees these things in the same way."

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** This is why those entries are in the [[YMMV [[YourMileageMayVary YMMV]] page instead of the Main Page. The warning at the top clearly states that "not everyone sees these things in the same way."
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** This is why those entries are in the [[YMMV YMMV] page instead of the Main Page. The warning at the top clearly states that "not everyone sees these things in the same way."

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** This is why those entries are in the [[YMMV YMMV] YMMV]] page instead of the Main Page. The warning at the top clearly states that "not everyone sees these things in the same way."
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* In-Wiki one regarding AgeOfEmpiresII: on the normal page there's a ShownTheirWork, fine... then on the YMMV page, we get a lovely, overly long CriticalResearchFailure entry with lots of people bitching about the various details that , considering the above mentioned ShownTheirWork entry/whatever it is, are quite forgettable when you consider the insane amount of work it'll take to pay attention to every single detail. And yet, the tropers there talks as if the programmers or whoever was behind it was genuinely ignorant of the whole thing. Can't you just make up your mind?

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* In-Wiki one regarding AgeOfEmpiresII: VideoGame/AgeOfEmpiresII: on the normal page there's a ShownTheirWork, fine... then on the YMMV page, we get a lovely, overly long CriticalResearchFailure entry with lots of people bitching about the various details that , considering the above mentioned ShownTheirWork entry/whatever it is, are quite forgettable when you consider the insane amount of work it'll take to pay attention to every single detail. And yet, the tropers there talks as if the programmers or whoever was behind it was genuinely ignorant of the whole thing. Can't you just make up your mind?
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* In-Wiki one regarding AgeOfEmpiresII: on the normal page there's a ShownTheirWork, fine... then on the YMMV page, we get a lovely, overly long CriticalResearchFailure entry with lots of people bitching about the various details that , considering the above mentioned ShownTheirWork entry/whatever it is, are quite forgettable when you consider the insane amount of work it'll take to pay attention to every single detail. And yet, the tropers there talks as if the programmers or whoever was behind it was genuinely ignorant of the whole thing. Can't you just make up your mind?

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* In-Wiki one regarding AgeOfEmpiresII: on the normal page there's a ShownTheirWork, fine... then on the YMMV page, we get a lovely, overly long CriticalResearchFailure entry with lots of people bitching about the various details that , considering the above mentioned ShownTheirWork entry/whatever it is, are quite forgettable when you consider the insane amount of work it'll take to pay attention to every single detail. And yet, the tropers there talks as if the programmers or whoever was behind it was genuinely ignorant of the whole thing. Can't you just make up your mind?mind?
* In the first game, most of the units have a distinct greek-roman style, but how this works with other people like Assiryan or Shang?
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** On the second one: For balancing issues. The Spanish main feature is that they are extremely weak in the early ages but insanely powerful in the latter ones.

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** On the second one: For balancing issues. The Spanish main feature is that they are extremely weak in the early ages but insanely powerful in the latter ones.ones.
* In-Wiki one regarding AgeOfEmpiresII: on the normal page there's a ShownTheirWork, fine... then on the YMMV page, we get a lovely, overly long CriticalResearchFailure entry with lots of people bitching about the various details that , considering the above mentioned ShownTheirWork entry/whatever it is, are quite forgettable when you consider the insane amount of work it'll take to pay attention to every single detail. And yet, the tropers there talks as if the programmers or whoever was behind it was genuinely ignorant of the whole thing. Can't you just make up your mind?

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*** You got that wrong. The bad guy was an [[TheEvilPrince evil prince]]. No one was identified as an eunuch, but if there was one it was probably the Zheng-He expy Admiral Jinhai.

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*** You got that wrong. The bad guy was an [[TheEvilPrince evil prince]]. No one was identified as an eunuch, but if there was one it was probably the Zheng-He expy maincharacter, Admiral Jinhai.



* In the second game, archers upgrades to crossbowmen. However, what about all those civilizations that never had crossbows in the first place? and why Spanish have no access to crossbows at all?

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* In the second game, archers upgrades to crossbowmen. However, what about all those civilizations that never had crossbows in the first place? and why Spanish have no access to crossbows at all?all?
** On the second one: For balancing issues. The Spanish main feature is that they are extremely weak in the early ages but insanely powerful in the latter ones.
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*** It's not the only campaign that ends with the player winning a battle that was lost in real history. The other two are William Wallace winning the Battle of Falkirk and Frederic Barbarossa taking Jerusalem.
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*** You got that wrong. The bad guy was an [[TheEvilPrince evil prince]]. No one was identified as an eunuch, but if there was one it was probably the Zheng-He expy Admiral Jinhai.
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*** Yup, pretty much it says: Yes, we pushed out the spaniards this time.... but what will we do when they'll come back again?
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** It's an abstraction of your civilization gaining the general level of knowladge and organised scholarship needed to sustain a complex siegeworks industry.

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** It's an abstraction of your civilization gaining the general level of knowladge and organised scholarship needed to sustain a complex siegeworks industry.industry.
* In the second game, archers upgrades to crossbowmen. However, what about all those civilizations that never had crossbows in the first place? and why Spanish have no access to crossbows at all?
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*** Actually, this troper always thought the ending implied they were wiped out anyway.
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*** The campaigns all end well for the people youre playing as, they are supposed to be alternate histories.
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** Stop questioning! WOLOLOLOLO WOLOLOLOLO
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* All the FarEast civilizations in AOEIII need to build particular building to advance to the next age. No big deal, but the idea that the Confucius academy produce ''siege engines'' makes no sense.

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* All the FarEast civilizations in AOEIII need to build particular building to advance to the next age. No big deal, but the idea that the Confucius academy produce ''siege engines'' makes no sense.sense.
** It's an abstraction of your civilization gaining the general level of knowladge and organised scholarship needed to sustain a complex siegeworks industry.

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* All the FarEast civilisations in AOEIII need to build particular building to advance to the next age. No big deal, but the idea that the Confucius academy produce ''siege engines'' makes no sense.

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** Maybe the sword created friction against the side of the building, creating sparks and igniting the wood?
* All the FarEast civilisations civilizations in AOEIII need to build particular building to advance to the next age. No big deal, but the idea that the Confucius academy produce ''siege engines'' makes no sense.
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** Also, the Montezuma campaign in AOEII, which ends with the Aztecs driving the Spanish away and rebuilding their civilisation. Yeah, ''that's not how it happened.''
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* In the second game ''hitting a building with swords'' causes it to light on fire. The third game suffers from a glitch in which units may be trapped in limbo underwater or off the edge of the map for the entire game with no feasible way to use them against opponents.
* All the FarEast civilisations in AOEIII need to build particular building to advance to the next age. No big deal, but the idea that the Confucius academy produce ''siege engines'' makes no sense.
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* In the second game ''hitting a building with swords'' causes it to light on fire. The third game suffers from a glitch in which units may be trapped in limbo underwater or off the edge of the map for the entire game with no feasible way to use them against opponents.



* All the FarEast civilisations in AOEIII need to build particular building to advance to the next age. No big deal, but the idea that the Confucius academy produce ''siege engines'' makes no sense.
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*** The Chinese didn't want to accidentally tip the balance of things in Latin America. And can you imagine what will happen if the Europeans reaching the New World finds Chinese Artifacts? History in that timeline will be proven that if one just keeps going east, you will find China. Look on the bright side, at least spices can be cultivated...

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