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How is it the people in this film are able to stay asleep with Freddy haunting their dreams? I mean, there are several instances where the characters are spooked by something in their dream, and they wake up, so why isn't that the case with everything else?

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* How is it the people in this film are able to stay asleep with Freddy haunting their dreams? I mean, there are several instances where the characters are spooked by something in their dream, and they wake up, so why isn't that the case with everything else?
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** The only time we see the fingernail-knives was in ''New Nightmare'', and that wasn't actually Freddy; it was a demon impersonating him. The characters in that film explicitly acknowledge the redesign (and that film is not technically canon to the other films). The knife glove itself does change slightly from film to film (notable gaining much larger blades for ''Freddy Vs Jason'',) but this can be handwaved by the MST3KMantra (his burns and sweater are different in the first film, not to mention Robert Englund getting older). ''Freddy's Dead'' also showed he had multiple knife gloves of different designs while alive.
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*** [[AndIMustScream Freddy is trapped in the subconscious of the never-sleeping Jason Voorhees, who spends 400 years as a]] HumanPopsicle [[FinalDeath before eventually burning up completely in the atmosphere of Earth II.]]

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*** [[AndIMustScream Freddy is trapped in the subconscious of the never-sleeping Jason Voorhees, who spends 400 years as a]] HumanPopsicle [[FinalDeath [[KilledOffForReal before eventually burning up completely in the atmosphere of Earth II.]]
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How is it the people in this film are able to stay asleep with Freddy haunting their dreams? I mean, there are several instances where the characters are spooked by something in their dream, and they wake up, so why isn't that the case with everything else?
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* Because it was the parents' symbol that they used to identify Freddy. Remember, Nancy's mom retrieved the gloves after the burning, and kept them in her own boiler room. She shows them to Nancy as proof that they killed Freddy. She saw them as a symbol of comfort, and viewing the gloves seemed to reassure her that he was dead... Naturally, adopting the gloves as his weapon of choice would incite an extra level of fear.

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* ** Because it was the parents' symbol that they used to identify Freddy. Remember, Nancy's mom retrieved the gloves after the burning, and kept them in her own boiler room. She shows them to Nancy as proof that they killed Freddy. She saw them as a symbol of comfort, and viewing the gloves seemed to reassure her that he was dead... Naturally, adopting the gloves as his weapon of choice would incite an extra level of fear.fear.
** Because is part of his identity, in the same way a machete is part of Jason's, and a chainsaw part of Leatherface's.
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*** Judging from the desperate way he shouts "I'm real!" in the remake, it may be that he doesn't feel much as a dream ghost, or at the least doesn't feel real to himself. It may be a constant source of psychological pain to him that he doesn't have real flesh and blood body.
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** Freddy project himself into people's dreams, everything you (and the charecters) see is a projection from Freddy's mind or spirit or whaterver. He can re-manifest another hat if he wants. In different movies he manifests all sorts of clothing, objects and even modifies his own body.

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** Freddy project projects himself into people's dreams, everything you (and the charecters) see is a projection from Freddy's mind or spirit or whaterver. He can re-manifest another hat if he wants. In different movies he manifests all sorts of clothing, objects and even modifies his own body.



** As mentioned above, Freddy's image is a projection. Whatever his real nature is it's probably spiritual and probably formless, he projects the image that he wants into the minds of his victims during dreams thus the exact form of this image may vary depending on his preferences and what can be more scary. Yes, he can't be taken to the real world and probably once in it he can't change his shape as he's then bind by physical laws, but while in dreamland he can't look however he wants and several movies show this.

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** As mentioned above, Freddy's image is a projection. Whatever his real nature is it's probably spiritual and probably formless, he projects the image that he wants into the minds of his victims during dreams thus the exact form of this image may vary depending on his preferences and what can be more scary. Yes, he can't be taken to the real world and probably once in it he can't change his shape as he's then bind by physical laws, but while in dreamland he can't look however he wants and several movies show this. As for other activities, he's already dead, he's a ghost, he has no other activities, he doesn't need to eat, drink, excrete, sleep, etc., but even if he did, he can change temporary his shape thus his hand if he wants.

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** Freddy project himself into people's dreams, everything you (and the charecters) see is a projection from Freddy's mind or spirit or whaterver. He can re-manifest another hat if he wants. In different movies he manifests all sorts of clothing, objects and even modifies his own body.




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** As mentioned above, Freddy's image is a projection. Whatever his real nature is it's probably spiritual and probably formless, he projects the image that he wants into the minds of his victims during dreams thus the exact form of this image may vary depending on his preferences and what can be more scary. Yes, he can't be taken to the real world and probably once in it he can't change his shape as he's then bind by physical laws, but while in dreamland he can't look however he wants and several movies show this.
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* In the first one they are part of his gloves (like when he was alive), but in at least some of the sequels they seem to be his actual fingernails. Why is this the case? Furthermore, wouldn't having [[WolverineClaws]] as fingernails be really inconvenient for pretty much any activity ''other'' than killing people (i.e how could he write or type anything?)

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* In the first one they are part of his gloves (like when he was alive), but in at least some of the sequels they seem to be his actual fingernails. Why is this the case? Furthermore, wouldn't having [[WolverineClaws]] WolverineClaws as fingernails be really inconvenient for pretty much any activity ''other'' than killing people (i.e how could he write or type anything?)
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* In the first one they are part of his gloves (like when he was alive), but in at least some of the sequels they seem to be his actual fingernails. Why is this the case? Furthermore, wouldn't having [[WolverineClaws]] as fingernails be really inconvenient for pretty much any activity ''other'' than killing people (i.e how could he write or type anything?)

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** Since the franchise got a reboot after ''Film/FreddyVsJason'', there's a few options, pick whichever is most amusing to you:
*** [[AndIMustScream Freddy is trapped in the subconscious of the never-sleeping Jason Voorhees, who spends 400 years as a]] HumanPopsicle [[FinalDeath before eventually burning up completely in the atmosphere of Earth II.]]
*** ''ComicBook/FreddyVsJasonVsAsh'' states that Freddy is stripped of his power by the Dream Demons after his schemes [[YouHaveFailedMe fail one time too many]], and he's sucked into the Deadite dimension to spend eternity with ''those'' no-class, no-style assholes.
*** Freddy is stranded in the dreamscape of the blasted, uninhabitable wasteland where Springwood used to be on EarthThatWas.
*** Freddy hitches a ride on people fleeing Earth and sets up shop on Springwood Station or ''Elm Ship''.
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** He is somewhat limited in the dream realm, mostly because it's a dream realm, people have found ways to stay out. Plus, his dream powers have explicit limitations, to the point fully half the films are about him trying to RulesLawyer his way around them. Being in the real world means he has the freedom to stalk and kill anyone he can physically find, like any other slashed villain.

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** He is somewhat limited in the dream realm, mostly because it's a dream realm, people have found ways to stay out. Plus, his dream powers have explicit limitations, to the point fully half the films are about him trying to RulesLawyer his way around them. Being in the real world means he has the freedom to stalk and kill anyone he can physically find, like any other slashed slasher villain.

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* In a couple of movies (Revenge and Dream Child), Freddy attempts to return to the real world through possessing a body. Given the amount of power he possesses in the dream world, why would he want to leave?[[/folder]]

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** He is somewhat limited in the dream realm, mostly because it's a dream realm, people have found ways to stay out. Plus, his dream powers have explicit limitations, to the point fully half the films are about him trying to RulesLawyer his way around them. Being in the real world means he has the freedom to stalk and kill anyone he can physically find, like any other slashed villain.
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** Obviously coming up with oneliners he can say when he kills someone, that and playing with the power gloveglove.
** He "lives" solely in whatever place people's consciousnesses go when they dream. "Time" may not be a concept that applies to Freddy, "downtime" doubly so.
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* In a couple of movies (Revenge and Dream Child), Freddy attempts to return to the real world through possessing a body. Given the amount of power he possesses in the dream world, why would he want to leave?

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* In a couple of movies (Revenge and Dream Child), Freddy attempts to return to the real world through possessing a body. Given the amount of power he possesses in the dream world, why would he want to leave?
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* In the original Nancy snatches the hat off his head and brings it into the real world as proof, and we never see him get it back. So how does he have a new one in part 2? Did he just sew a new one out of whole cloth in the dream world? (granted, that would be pretty funny)
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*** Nancy's parents were probably among the very few adults who ''weren't'' sufficiently in denial to be immune to Freddy's attacks by the time they died. Her mother's drinking at the end of the first film may have been an attempt to block out what the repeated killings and Nancy's own evidence was forcing her to believe, and her father explicitly ''admits'' it's Freddy whom he's facing when confronted by the animated skeleton.

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* Throughout the franchise, Freddy shows ''some'' martial arts prowess while in dreams, where he doesn't actually have to know how to do the move, since he's a reality warper. And for all the major installments, in the real world he can't even handle untrained teenage girls and gets severely hindered by homemade booby traps, as you'd expect since both before and after he died, he never killed anyone fighting back. So in Freddy vs Jason, how the fuck does he manage to not only endure blows from, but also defeat ''Jason Vorhees'', who becomes stronger after each ressurection, and was punching people's heads off two ressurections ago? Freddy jumps and flips and kick around like Jackie Chan, and keeps fighting after being thrown dozens of yards and losing his arm. Does this fall under the MST3KMantra, since the movie would be boring if the final fight was a CurbStompBattle in Jason's favor, or did he train with young Bruce Lee when he was alive and not murdering children, and just now remembered how to use his skills?

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* Throughout the franchise, Freddy shows ''some'' martial arts prowess while in dreams, where he doesn't actually have to know how to do the move, since he's a reality warper. And for all the major installments, in the real world he can't even handle untrained teenage girls and gets severely hindered by homemade booby traps, as you'd expect since both before and after he died, he never killed anyone fighting back. So in Freddy ''Freddy vs Jason, Jason'', how the fuck does he manage to not only endure blows from, but also defeat ''Jason Vorhees'', who becomes stronger after each ressurection, resurrection, and was punching people's heads off two ressurections resurrections ago? Freddy jumps and flips and kick around like Jackie Chan, and keeps fighting after being thrown dozens of yards and losing his arm. Does this fall under the MST3KMantra, since the movie would be boring if the final fight was a CurbStompBattle in Jason's favor, or did he train with young Bruce Lee when he was alive and not murdering children, and just now remembered how to use his skills?skills?
** Freddy may have figured out a way to tap into his victims' dream powers, same as Alice could do, after having battled her twice. It took a while, but by ''Freddy vs Jason'' he managed to emulate the powers of Rick, Kincaid, Taryn, ''and'' Kristen, plus who knows how many others, to hold his own via enhanced strength and agility.
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** Even when he was alive, Freddy enjoyed killing kids anyway. Revenge on the parents provided him with a handy way to come back from the dead, but ''how'' he takes that revenge is to keep on doing what he loves.

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In the fifth movie when we see Amanda Krueger get trapped inside the dungeon where all the 100 maniacs were kept, how did they survive if they have no food or water? Judging by Amanda Krueger’s speech in the fourth movie she was trapped there “during the holydays” (so, for several days, maybe a month) what the hell did the inmates and her ate and drank during that period? Notice they didn’t have beds either and you also need sleep to survive, but probably feeding is the most immediate plothole.
* When we're talking about the kinds of holidays that would be likely to even bring an Asylum down to a skeleton crew it's at most a four day weekend. Humans can go that long without water, they'll just be mighty unhappy about it.

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In the fifth movie when we see Amanda Krueger get trapped inside the dungeon where all the 100 maniacs were kept, how did they survive if they have no food or water? Judging by Amanda Krueger’s speech in the fourth movie she was trapped there “during the holydays” holy days” (so, for several days, maybe a month) what the hell did the inmates and her ate and drank during that period? Notice they didn’t have beds either and you also need sleep to survive, but probably feeding is the most immediate plothole.plot hole.
* When we're talking about the kinds of holidays that would be likely to even bring an Asylum down to a skeleton crew it's at most a four day four-day weekend. Humans can go that long without water, they'll just be mighty unhappy about it.


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* There were probably some water taps in that huge communal cell, and a pass-through port to allow the inmates to be fed. The inmates weren't completely abandoned during the holidays, they just made sure that whomever was tasked to slip them their meals couldn't see or hear ''Amanda'' when they dropped off the food.
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* Ok, so Freddy kills people when they're sleeping. So, what does he do all day when people AREN'T sleeping?
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** Alternatively, he can disguise himself as a human, but it will be but a glamour. His true self, his soul, if you will, is ugly and monstrous.
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** Because it makes him look scary. He wants to be ugly to scare the kids, and why won't him? The burned appearance isn't just a reminder of what happened; in case the kids want to tattle and speak up about the incident, the parents will not. Plus, it represents his empowerment to take revenge from beyond the grave for what said parents did. Furthermore, there's no in-universe indication that he feels shame or disgust about his appearance; if anything, he probably believes it bolsters and enhances his fearsome factor.

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** Because it makes him look scary. He wants to be ugly to scare the kids, and why won't him? wouldn't he? The burned appearance isn't just a reminder of what happened; in case the kids want to tattle and speak up about the incident, the parents will not. Plus, it represents his empowerment to take revenge from beyond the grave for what said parents did. Furthermore, there's no in-universe indication that he feels shame or disgust about his appearance; if anything, he probably believes it bolsters and enhances his fearsome factor.
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*** In response to the two ideas above this: but Freddy killed Nancy's mother (twice (?)) in the very first movie and Nancy's dad in the third. It might not be so much that he can't kill adults, more that he doesn't want to the majority of the time. He prefers younger victims.
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*** Wouldn't this be jossed? Freddy returned just minutes after his supposed 'defeat' in the first movie and kidnaps Nancy and all her friends. Also, you're forgetting about the entirety of Part 2 with that 'he had no power to manifest for many years' bit.

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*** **** Wouldn't this be jossed? Freddy returned just minutes after his supposed 'defeat' in the first movie and kidnaps Nancy and all her friends. Also, you're forgetting about the entirety of Part 2 with that 'he had no power to manifest for many years' bit.
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*** Wouldn't this be jossed? Freddy returned just minutes after his supposed 'defeat' in the first movie and kidnaps Nancy and all her friends.

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*** Wouldn't this be jossed? Freddy returned just minutes after his supposed 'defeat' in the first movie and kidnaps Nancy and all her friends. Also, you're forgetting about the entirety of Part 2 with that 'he had no power to manifest for many years' bit.
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**** Wouldn't this be jossed? Freddy returned just minutes after his supposed 'defeat' in the first movie and kidnaps Nancy and all her friends.

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