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12th May '17 4:57:02 PM Ansongc2000
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12th May '17 4:56:44 PM Ansongc2000
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[[folder:Freddy's Fighting Skill]]
* Throughout the franchise, Freddy shows ''some'' martial arts prowess while in dreams, where he doesn't actually have to know how to do the move, since he's a reality warper. And for all the major installments, in the real world he can't even handle untrained teenage girls and gets severely hindered by homemade booby traps, as you'd expect since both before and after he died, he never killed anyone fighting back. So in Freddy Vs Jason, how the fuck does he manage to not only endure blows from, but also defeat ''Jason Vorhees'', who becomes stronger after each ressurection, and was punching people's heads off two ressurections ago? Freddy jumps and flips and kick around like Jackie Chan, and keeps fighting after being thrown dozens of yards and losing his arm. Does this fall under the MST3KMantra, since the movie would be boring if the final fight was a CurbStompBattle in Jason's favor, or did he train with young Bruce Lee when he was alive and not murdering children, and just now remembered how to use his skills?
31st Mar '17 12:00:03 AM CL
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** I assumed that they somehow kept her hidden.
3rd Dec '16 6:52:13 PM Luppercus
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**But she said she was there for a month.
15th Nov '16 2:35:23 PM SeanRenaud
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* When we're talking about the kinds of holidays that would be likely to even bring an Asylum down to a skeleton crew it's at most a four day weekend. Humans can go that long without water, they'll just be mighty unhappy about it.


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** You'd have to ask the Dream Demons. As much as Freddy manages to manipulate the rules he was specifically given the power to kill the children of the people who massacred him. Going after them directly may not be an option he has open to him.


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** Almost definitely, when we look at the first and third movie Freddy is actually attacking the parents through the children. It's not until Nightmare 4 where he's really in it just for the evulz.
15th Nov '16 10:04:22 AM ErikModi
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** Well, Freddy was specifically a ''child'' murderer. So the teenagers are closer to his preferred victim type. And which is more sadistic: just killing the people who killed you, or killing their children, proving that even after your death they can't protect their kids from you, that they've failed, and there's nothing they can do to stop you?
15th Nov '16 9:58:21 AM ErikModi
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** The monster/demon/creature/whatever has grown to ''like'' being Freddy, and it must be trapped in stories to keep it from wreaking havoc. So it needs a new Nightmare on Elm Street story to trap it. What we see when it is "killed" (actually trapped in the new Freddy story, which is the one we just watched) is either it's "true" face, or just one of many forms it can take. Point is, the Freddy Krueger in ''New Nightmare'' is not Freddy Krueger from the films, but the ''idea'' of Freddy.
15th Nov '16 9:55:05 AM ErikModi
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*** Yes and no. Lucid dreaming is brought up briefly in the first film (the "dream skills" scene), and becomes a bit more prominent in ''Dream Warriors'' and ''Dream Master'', but in the first film it's never brought up as a way to defeat Freddy (and the performances of most of the lucid dreamers against Freddy in 3 and 4 lends to this). In the metaphysical sense, the harder you fight against a monster like Freddy, the more energy you give him, and the more powerful he becomes. Acknowledging his existence at all, let alone thinking of him in terms of a BigBad to be beaten to a pulp, plays right into his hands. Nancy turning her back on Freddy and denying his ability to hurt her ''should'' have worked in the first film (and would have, if not for ExecutiveMeddling). On the other hand, ''Dream Warriors'' is pretty much all about the power of lucid dreaming and the ability to alter the dream to suit your desires, and give yourself the power to defeat Freddy. Unfortunately, it fails most of the time, because Freddy is a much more experienced and powerful lucid dreamer, and the kids lack the experience and mental discipline to keep hold of their lucid dreams.
17th Jul '16 7:51:52 PM GeneralGrant985
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*** Someone who has the sense to see the scary guy, say [[YourMindMakesItReal I have a loaded M4]], and just unload on him from a distance

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*** Someone who has the sense to see the scary guy, say [[YourMindMakesItReal obvious nightmare, say, "[[YourMindMakesItReal I have a loaded M4]], M4]]", and just unload on him from a distancedistance.
17th Jul '16 7:50:00 PM GeneralGrant985
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** Would Freddy have trouble with a lucid dreamer?
*** Someone who has the sense to see the scary guy, say [[YourMindMakesItReal I have a loaded M4]], and just unload on him from a distance
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