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* ''Anime/CodeGeass'''s Lelouch is fully aware of and, in fact, ''embraces'' this trope. "I choose to commit evil in order to destroy the greater evil!" [[spoiler:At the very end of the series, he [[JumpedOffTheSlipperySlope jumps off the slippery slope]] ''on purpose'' in order to execute a GenghisGambit ''on the entire world''.]]
** Suzaku at the beginning appears to be a subversion. For most of the first season he condemns Zero and the Black Knights as nothing but terrorists that are causing unnecessary death and violence, and proceeds to battle them and climb the military ranks while avoiding killing anyone (usually because when faced with the dilemma of his superiors ordering him to kill, circumstances rescue him from going through with it). But come the ending of season one, [[spoiler: after Euphemia is killed by Lelouch,]] Suzaku is not only willing to kill to achieve his goals but season two has him involved with Britannia’s expansionist war that sees him conquering whole nations.

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* ''Anime/CodeGeass'''s [[Characters/CodeGeassLelouchLamperouge Lelouch Lamperouge]] is fully aware of and, in fact, ''embraces'' this trope. "I choose to commit evil in order to destroy the greater evil!" [[spoiler:At the very end of the series, he [[JumpedOffTheSlipperySlope jumps off the slippery slope]] ''on purpose'' in order to execute a GenghisGambit ''on the entire world''.]]
** [[Characters/CodeGeassSuzakuKururugi Suzaku Kururugi]] at the beginning appears to be a subversion. For most of the first season he condemns Zero and the Black Knights as nothing but terrorists that are causing unnecessary death and violence, and proceeds to battle them and climb the military ranks while avoiding killing anyone (usually because when faced with the dilemma of his superiors ordering him to kill, circumstances rescue him from going through with it). But come the ending of season one, [[spoiler: after Euphemia is killed by Lelouch,]] Suzaku is not only willing to kill to achieve his goals but season two has him involved with Britannia’s expansionist war that sees him conquering whole nations.



* ''Manga/DeathNote'': Light Yagami begins using the supernatural notebook to rid society of criminals, but soon his black list expands to include anyone who stands in his way for any reason, starting with the FBI, and he even intends to eliminate other "useless" people who aren't outright heinous criminals through accidents and disease. Along the way, he coolly manipulates the feelings of both people and shinigami. Repeatedly stating that he plans to become the god of the new world he is trying to create doesn't help matters, either. Ryuk even lampshades this, wondering aloud if Light will ultimately be the only bad person left, but he's just in for the spectacle.

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* ''Manga/DeathNote'': [[Characters/DeathNoteLightYagami Light Yagami Yagami]] begins using the supernatural notebook to rid society of criminals, but soon his black list expands to include anyone who stands in his way for any reason, starting with the FBI, and he even intends to eliminate other "useless" people who aren't outright heinous criminals through accidents and disease. Along the way, he coolly manipulates the feelings of both people and shinigami. Repeatedly stating that he plans to become the god of the new world he is trying to create doesn't help matters, either. Ryuk even lampshades this, wondering aloud if Light will ultimately be the only bad person left, but he's just in for the spectacle.



* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'': Zamasu of the Future Trunks Saga starts out a WellIntentionedExtremist who wants to protect the universe from the constant cycle of mortals fighting wars and destroying each other, but ends up becoming just as bad, if not even worse than the mortals he sought to protect the universe from. [[spoiler: Present Zamasu tries to murder his own master so he can begin his quest to kill all mortals and Future Zamasu is helping Goku Black wreck Future Trunks' world. Goku Black (an alternative version of Present Zamasu) goes as far as to murder Goku's entire family after taking his body and then goes on to kill all the gods in the 12 universes.]]

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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'': Zamasu [[Characters/DragonBallZamasu Zamasu]] of the Future Trunks Saga starts out a WellIntentionedExtremist who wants to protect the universe from the constant cycle of mortals fighting wars and destroying each other, but ends up becoming just as bad, if not even worse than the mortals he sought to protect the universe from. [[spoiler: Present Zamasu tries to murder his own master so he can begin his quest to kill all mortals and Future Zamasu is helping Goku Black wreck Future Trunks' world. Goku Black (an alternative version of Present Zamasu) goes as far as to murder Goku's entire family after taking his body and then goes on to kill all the gods in the 12 universes.]]



* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' is centered a lot around revenge, mainly on Sasuke's side. He wants to fight his [[spoiler:supposedly]] evil brother and therefore [[FaceHeelTurn joins the evil side]]. [[spoiler:After finally getting his revenge in an antiheroic sort of way, he goes off the deep end, and begins lashing out at Konoha, starting with abandoning his allies in order to get even with Danzo.]]

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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' is centered a lot around revenge, mainly on Sasuke's [[Characters/NarutoSasukeUchiha Sasuke Uchiha's]] side. He wants to fight his [[spoiler:supposedly]] evil brother and therefore [[FaceHeelTurn joins the evil side]]. [[spoiler:After finally getting his revenge in an antiheroic sort of way, he goes off the deep end, and begins lashing out at Konoha, starting with abandoning his allies in order to get even with Danzo.]]



** Naruto himself almost fell into this trope; early Post-TimeSkip, his fury at the douchebaggery of Orochimaru and Akatsuki causes him to go [[SuperPoweredEvilSide Biju-mode]] more and more, each time faster as he continually calls upon the Ninetails. Kabuto even points out that Naruto wants to save Sasuke so much that he's willingly turning himself into a monster to do so. Luckily, Yamato sets Naruto straight and our hero becomes far less willing to transform until he can do so without losing his mind. [[spoiler:Until Pain seemingly kills [[LoveInterest Hinata]] in front of Naruto. In his rage Naruto takes his Biju-mode even further than ever before, transforming first into 6-tails and then 8-tails mode, and is on the verge of ''willingly freeing Kurama entirely just so he'll kill Pain for him'' when his father Minato's spirit intervenes to stop him.]]

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** [[Characters/NarutoNarutoUzumaki Naruto Uzumaki]] himself almost fell into this trope; early Post-TimeSkip, his fury at the douchebaggery of Orochimaru and Akatsuki causes him to go [[SuperPoweredEvilSide Biju-mode]] more and more, each time faster as he continually calls upon the Ninetails. Kabuto even points out that Naruto wants to save Sasuke so much that he's willingly turning himself into a monster to do so. Luckily, Yamato sets Naruto straight and our hero becomes far less willing to transform until he can do so without losing his mind. [[spoiler:Until Pain seemingly kills [[LoveInterest Hinata]] in front of Naruto. In his rage Naruto takes his Biju-mode even further than ever before, transforming first into 6-tails and then 8-tails mode, and is on the verge of ''willingly freeing Kurama entirely just so he'll kill Pain for him'' when his father Minato's spirit intervenes to stop him.]]

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%% Rewrite or elaborate * ''Anime/AfroSamurai''. Reread the first paragraph. That describes, in a nutshell, the entire first season of Afro Samurai.
* Discussed extensively within ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', both by the narrative itself ''and'' the characters. Leaders such as Erwin Smith and Dot Pixis embody the belief that throwing away human compassion is necessary to win against the Titans, ruthlessly sacrificing the lives of their soldiers for even the smallest chance of victory. Armin comes to believe that throwing away one's humanity is the only way to win against monsters, while Jean expresses to him doubt over whether such methods are truly worth it. Mikasa has honed herself into a ruthless fighter for the sake of Eren, even going so far as to threaten the lives of her own comrades. On the other hand, Eren is a far more literal example: [[spoiler: becoming a Titan in order to fight against the Titans]], but also struggling to embrace the ruthless actions others ask of him. Finally, there are the other [[spoiler: Titan Shifters]], who play with this trope in an interesting fashion: [[spoiler: their own humanity comes back to haunt them, causing them to make critical mistakes. Annie spares Armin, and finds her mercy repaid with being exposed and trapped by the military. Reiner is unable to cope with the guilt of his actions, suppressing his memories and creating a false persona in order to function. Bertolt internalizes considerable remorse and self-loathing, unable to act on his own even to prevent Reiner's SanitySlippage and when his own emotions boil over, he makes reckless mistakes that allow Eren to be rescued. Finally, Ymir fell InLoveWithTheMark, and is successfully blackmailed using her feelings for Krista]].
** Later in the story, Eren realises he's not so different from [[spoiler:Reiner, Bertolt and Annie]], going so far to telling [[spoiler:Reiner]] that they/their ideals are the same, and they're carrying out their plans/attacks for the same reasons. He doesn't entirely seem to mind, however, so long as he achieves his goal of wiping out the enemy ([[spoiler:and no, it's not titans anymore, ''as such'']]), and he's accepted that that's his role in life.
** Seems to also be the case with both [[spoiler:Eren Kruger]] and [[spoiler:Zeke Yeager]], who each claim they're [[spoiler:trying to save the Eldian people]], but have only ever been shown [[spoiler:attacking and killing Eldians (and turning them into titans, the very thing they're trying to stop) -- with no apparent guilt]]. Granted, it's hard to know if they're telling the truth (especially in the case of [[spoiler:Zeke]]), but the idea seems to be that [[spoiler:to protect the ones you love you have to become a monster and throw away your humanity in order to succeed, perhaps so that you ''don't'' feel any amount of guilt to hold you back]]. [[spoiler:Kruger]] brought up that [[spoiler:love is important in fighting your enemy, and that you mustn't forget it]], which could be referencing this trope, but it's left somewhat vague.
** Eren then becomes the harshest and possibly most painful example possible. [[spoiler: Eren began the series as a ruthless, but well meaning soldier dedicated to avenging humanity by getting rid of all the Titans. After a massive battle against his enemies, as Eren finds out in the worst way possible they aren't truly alone in the world, and the rest of the world utterly hates them for the atrocities the Eldians committed for centuries, even when Eldians were ultimately defeated and subjugated, Eren decides to fix this problem by commanding the remaining Pure Titans aka, ''the Wall Titans'' to commit mass genocide on the rest of the world.]]
* In ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'', Guts is every bit as cruel and sadistic as the Apostles he hunts (towards them at least) at the beginning of the series. He deliberately tortures the Baron and Count in the beginning chapters, and, after fighting with Rosine, doesn't stop trying to kill her even after an innocent girl who was tagging along threw herself in front of him. Currently, the only thing preventing him from completely going off the deep end is [[MoralityChain his need to protect Casca from the monsters he fights]], and, occasionally, [[SuperpoweredEvilSide from himself]].
** And the worst part of this all? If he ''wasn't'' willing to sink to that level of depravity, he would have gotten killed a dozen times over. As bad as he is, ''everything else is '''[[CrapsackWorld worse]]'''''.
** As if that weren't enough, due to his unstable personality, which developed in the face of [[DeusAngstMachina unreasonable adversity]], coupled with the effects of this trope, Guts now struggles with a rather powerful [[EnemyWithin inner demon]].
** Guts' Dragonslayer was originally "just" a huge sword that looked more like a slab of iron. Over the course of the series, the Dragonslayer has slain so many Apostles that it has become demonic as well, thus able to harm things such as ghosts that are normally incorporeal and unable to take damage from normal weapons.
** And he still comes across as much better than his adversaries, which showcases how bad they are. He is slightly more fettered than them and reluctant at hurting others first.
** The PV for the anime beginning in July 2016 makes the theme explicit by actually quoting Nietzsche's "He who fights monsters" passage from ''Beyond Good and Evil'', in the original German no less!
* The ''El Baile De La Muerte'' arc of ''Manga/BlackLagoon'' is an exploration of this trope in regards to [[NinjaMaid Roberta]], who sets out on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge against the people responsible for the kaboom that killed her master, a rampage that has her going AxCrazy during the course of it. [[spoiler:It turns out that Caxton, the guy who ordered the attack, is '''not''' the monster that Roberta believes he is, but someone whose well intentions resulted in innocent people getting hurt because he and his military are locked in the eponymous "dance of death", using violence as their main means to deal with violence. Only Garcia, Fabiola, and a {{plan}} by Rock are enough to snap Roberta out of psycho-mode so that she can return home to those she loves.]]
** Rock himself, throughout the series, but particularly during Roberta's Blood Trail where he [[spoiler:develops a sadistic side due to Revy and Roanapur's environment, manipulating major players in the city and gambling with peoples lives, including Garcia, a mere child. Fabiola even states that Rock is now considered by her to be "the biggest number 1 bastard in Roanapur".]]
* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' gives us Kaname Tousen, who became obsessed with justice when a friend of his was murdered by her Shinigami husband who managed to get away with the crime, even if said obsession entailed helping the Big Bad become a god and not really worrying about the countless innocent lives he was killing or planning to kill along the way. [[spoiler:It eventually transpires that the reason he turned against Soul Society was for revenge (he has previously implied it was because UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans, though this was still somewhat true), believing that forgiveness of any sort was a mockery of justice and feeling he was completely entitled to take revenge on Soul Society and all of its inhabitants.]]
%% How does any of this relate to turning into a monster? * In ''Manga/BlueExorcist'' Mephisto Johan Faust (with the German theme of him) actually does the whole quote and dedicates it to the exorcists fighting in the Kyoto saga. He addresses first to his brother Rin himself who has to resist the pulsion of his blue flames lest he might burn all of his friends but actually most of the protagonists qualify. Especially Yukio whose all character arc epitomizes this trope.



* Even after his semi-HeelFaceTurn, Accelerator in ''Literature/ACertainMagicalIndex'' will mercilessly kill anyone who harms innocents, or even worse, try to harm [[spoiler:Last Order or any of the Misaka clones]]. Granted, he calls himself a villain despite saving innocents, since he knows his rather violent methods are not "heroic", especially compared to Touma, the one Accelerator considers fits "the hero" type.
* The monster hunters of ''Manga/{{Claymore}}'' use [[SuperpoweredEvilSide demonic power]] to increase their fighting strength. If they use too much, they transform and become living examples of this trope. Special note: here, it's more like "'''She''' who fights monsters".
** Usually it's by accident, though, [[SuperpowerMeltdown when they over-exceed their limit.]] However, there was one particular time when [[spoiler:Clare was willing to give up her humanity in order to kill Priscilla when she encountered her at last.]]
* ''Anime/CodeGeass'''s Lelouch is fully aware of and, in fact, ''embraces'' this trope. "I choose to commit evil in order to destroy the greater evil!" [[spoiler:At the very end of the series, he [[JumpedOffTheSlipperySlope jumps off the slippery slope]] ''on purpose'' in order to execute a GenghisGambit ''on the entire world''.]]
** Suzaku at the beginning appears to be a subversion. For most of the first season he condemns Zero and the Black Knights as nothing but terrorists that are causing unnecessary death and violence, and proceeds to battle them and climb the military ranks while avoiding killing anyone (usually because when faced with the dilemma of his superiors ordering him to kill, circumstances rescue him from going through with it). But come the ending of season one, [[spoiler: after Euphemia is killed by Lelouch,]] Suzaku is not only willing to kill to achieve his goals but season two has him involved with Britannia’s expansionist war that sees him conquering whole nations.
*** Suzaku also qualifies in his quest of changing Britannia’s system, as in the beginning he attempted to be an InternalReformist against the racism and corruption within the government, but as things progress due to the above incident, he simply does whatever it takes, whether it’s aiding in Britannia’s conquests or lying to and betraying his friends, in order to climb the ranks to simply have the power to help his home country.
* In ''Anime/CrossAnge'', Jill, leader of the Norma of Arzenal and [[LaResistance Libertus]], once cared deeply about her subordinates, but since the failure of the first Libertus, she had become cold, ruthless and manipulative, and only cares about killing Embryo, [[GeneralRipper and will use anyone as pawns, and keep secrets and trust nobody else]]. Ange immediately grows to distrust her, and when Jill tries likening herself to Ange (both disinherited princesses) after attempting to use her maid and closest friend as collateral to follow her plan to use everyone else as a distraction, Ange angrily rebuts her by calling her as bad as everyone they're fighting. [[spoiler:Turns out the first Libertus failed because Embryo raped Jill in both mind and body.]] Jill comes out of this after being forced into fessing up and having her leadership relinquished.
* Ian deals with this in ''Manga/ACruelGodReigns''. He struggles with being angered at Jeremy's failed attempts to recover from being a HookerWithAHeartOfGold and FunctionalAddict and falling in love with him, but he worries that if he acts upon either of these, he will become like his ArchnemesisDad who caused all of Jeremy's problems in the first place.
* Kyosuke Munakata in ''Anime/Danganronpa3TheEndOfHopesPeakHighSchool'' is obsessed with winning the war against [[ApocalypseCult Ultimate Despair]] to the point where he declares Makoto a traitor and tries to have him executed for wanting to rehabilitate them instead of killing them outright. After Makoto explains his actions [[spoiler: in ''VisualNovel/Danganronpa2GoodbyeDespair'']], Munakata declares him unworthy of the title of [[TheParagon Ultimate Hope]] and again tries to kill him on the grounds that his [[SuicidalPacifism naivete]] would lead himself and others to death and despair while [[MotiveRant ranting]] that he'd be willing to kill thousands for the sake of ending Despair.
* ''Manga/DeathNote'': Light Yagami begins using the supernatural notebook to rid society of criminals, but soon his black list expands to include anyone who stands in his way for any reason, starting with the FBI, and he even intends to eliminate other "useless" people who aren't outright heinous criminals through accidents and disease. Along the way, he coolly manipulates the feelings of both people and shinigami. Repeatedly stating that he plans to become the god of the new world he is trying to create doesn't help matters, either. Ryuk even lampshades this, wondering aloud if Light will ultimately be the only bad person left, but he's just in for the spectacle.



* In ''Manga/NegimaMagisterNegiMagi'':
** Haruna identifies [[spoiler:Kurt Godel]] as being one of these. He ''was'' an undeniable good guy as a kid, only to grow up into a completely manipulative {{jerkass}} little better than his enemy.
** In a flashback, Tsuruko uses the page quote as part of a lecture to a young Setsuna when showing her the [[EvilWeapon Youto Hina]].
* Ken, the pilot of Blade Gainer in ''Anime/{{Godannar}}'', is one of these. His obsession with killing the Mimetic Beast that killed his wife causes him to mercilessly hunt every Mimetic Beast down, without regard to how much property damage or civilian casualties he causes. [[spoiler:His last words before his death is for Lou to not become someone like him. Lou continues to fight off every single Mimetic Beast alone, but Ken's words prevent her from going down his brutal way.]]

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* In ''Manga/NegimaMagisterNegiMagi'':
''Manga/FairyTail'':
** Haruna identifies [[spoiler:Kurt Godel]] as being one It's been stated that those who use too much Dragon Slayer Magic take the risk of these. He ''was'' an undeniable good guy as becoming a kid, only to grow up dragon themselves. [[spoiler:Acnologia was once a Slayer who wanted {{revenge}} on the dragons, but after transforming into a completely manipulative {{jerkass}} little better than one himself his enemy.
** In a flashback, Tsuruko uses
list expanded to the page quote as part of a lecture to a young Setsuna when showing her point he wouldn't mind if he just [[OmnicidalManiac wiped out the [[EvilWeapon Youto Hina]].
* Ken,
rest of the pilot of Blade Gainer world too in ''Anime/{{Godannar}}'', is one of these. His obsession with killing the Mimetic Beast that killed his wife causes him to mercilessly hunt every Mimetic Beast down, without regard to how much property damage or civilian casualties he causes. [[spoiler:His last words before his death is for Lou to not become someone like him. Lou continues process]]. Irene Belserion was a proponent of human/dragon relationships and made Dragon Slayer magic to fight off every single Mimetic Beast alone, the human-eating ones, but Ken's words prevent her own transformation and the fear and hatred her people treated her with (coupled with the trauma of realizing she could never again be human) turned her into a {{sociopath}}.]]
** [[spoiler: Devil Slayers like Gray aren't exempt
from going this either, as Invel said that Devil Slayers will eventually become the demons they fight due to TheCorruption. Gray himself almost becomes this when he tries to kill Natsu/E.N.D., and when he snaps out of it [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he's so horrified]] he tried to perform a HeroicSacrifice to take down his brutal way.Zeref.]]



* Very often in the subtext in ''Franchise/GhostInTheShell''. Even though he lacks cybernetic enhancements and has no special forces background, Togusa is a very valuable member of the team, as with his former career as a street cop and a wife and daughter at home, he often serves as the voice of reason and urges the others to restrain themselves from using excessive violence and illegal methods.
* ''Literature/GoblinSlayer'' {{discusse|dTrope}}s this trope. [[DarkAndTroubledPast The titular Goblin Slayer is deeply traumatized by seeing his hometown invaded by goblins]], who [[RapePillageAndBurn tortured, raped, and murder the whole village]] while he could only [[ForcedToWatch hide and watch in terror]]. [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge He subsequently devoted his entire life to hunting and killing goblins]], obsessing over finding the most efficient ways to defeat them, studying their methods and biology, and doing little else. As a result, [[NoSocialSkills he's stunted psychologically and unable to form real relationships with other people]], and comes off as [[HorrifyingHero rather disturbing]] to everyone else, particularly when he uses brutal but extremely efficient methods to kill goblins. Then he [[LeaveNoSurvivors goes into their homes and kills them, all of them, leaving no survivors]]. In his own words, "to the goblins, I am the goblin." The trope is ultimately {{subverted|Trope}}, as however much he enjoys killing goblins, he never loses sight of the fact that he would feel ''even better'' if there were no goblins at all in the world. He also has something that [[AlwaysChaoticEvil no goblin does]]: the ability to [[CharacterDevelopment change]].
* Ken, the pilot of Blade Gainer in ''Anime/{{Godannar}}'', is one of these. His obsession with killing the Mimetic Beast that killed his wife causes him to mercilessly hunt every Mimetic Beast down, without regard to how much property damage or civilian casualties he causes. [[spoiler:His last words before his death is for Lou to not become someone like him. Lou continues to fight off every single Mimetic Beast alone, but Ken's words prevent her from going down his brutal way.]]
* Ray Lundgren from ''Anime/GunXSword''. At least the protagonist Van, while skirting this line, still had standards about not ruining property, taking innocent lives, etc. Ray, on the other hand, will gladly kill ''anyone'', innocents included, if they stand between him and The Claw. He even claims that, as long as he can kill The Claw, [[AndThenJohnWasAZombie he doesn't mind becoming a murderer himself.]]
** Subverted when he [[spoiler:wastes his only chance of killing his nemesis by [[ExactlyWhatIAimedAt purposefully missing his last shot]] in order to foil The Claw's plan once and for all]].
* ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'':
** Char Aznable of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' fits this nicely, up until he acknowledges to his sister that revenge wasn't the best idea later on in the series. However, he turns back to being this in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack''.
** In ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'', [[spoiler:Louise Halevy]] becomes this as [[spoiler:she turns into a DarkActionGirl to get revenge for her family's death and the loss of her hand. She ''does'' get to kill the girl who caused her disgrace, but by that point, she's so far gone that her ex-boyfriend, Saji, has to dive over the DespairEventHorizon to stop her from hurting herself any more.]]
*** [[spoiler:Speaking of murdering the killer, Setsuna F. Seiei almost crossed this point of no return, too, by trying to kill Ali Al-Saachez, the man who fooled him into murdering his own parents in the name of God. Thank to Marina Ismail's spiritual intervention with SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic by Kenji Kawai, he was saved from becoming a monster like Saachez in time.]]
*** In fact, Celestial Being as a whole qualifies for this trope in the first season.
** The same thing happens in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE'', [[TearJerker heartbreakingly]]. [[spoiler:Flit has been a {{Messia|nicArchetype}}h who worked to make humans understand each other while defending themselves against the Unknown Enemies -- until his love Yurin dies in the hands of the child Saachez clone, Desil Galette, at which point Flit lost all his idealism and became a murderous monster just like the UE. It got worse after Yark Dole reveals that the UE are HumanAllAlong, as Flit refuses to recognize them as fellow humans who are also suffering in the hands of the evil Earth Federation.]]



* ''Anime/AfroSamurai''. Reread the first paragraph. That describes, in a nutshell, the entire first season of Afro Samurai.
* In ''Anime/KaleidoStar'', Yuri Killian is convinced that [[spoiler:his boss Kalos killed his father indirectly in order to achieve fame.]] During his long revenge scheme, he needs to win a competition in order to stay at Kaleido Stage and prove his stardom to Kalos. In doing so, he [[spoiler:is indirectly responsible for the death of another performer, Sophie Oswald.]]



%% How does any of this relate to turning into a monster? * In ''Manga/BlueExorcist'' Mephisto Johan Faust (with the German theme of him) actually does the whole quote and dedicates it to the exorcists fighting in the Kyoto saga. He addresses first to his brother Rin himself who has to resist the pulsion of his blue flames lest he might burn all of his friends but actually most of the protagonists qualify. Especially Yukio whose all character arc epitomizes this trope.
* The monster hunters of ''Manga/{{Claymore}}'' use [[SuperpoweredEvilSide demonic power]] to increase their fighting strength. If they use too much, they transform and become living examples of this trope. Special note: here, it's more like "'''She''' who fights monsters".
** Usually it's by accident, though, [[SuperpowerMeltdown when they over-exceed their limit.]] However, there was one particular time when [[spoiler:Clare was willing to give up her humanity in order to kill Priscilla when she encountered her at last.]]
* ''Anime/CodeGeass'''s Lelouch is fully aware of and, in fact, ''embraces'' this trope. "I choose to commit evil in order to destroy the greater evil!" [[spoiler:At the very end of the series, he [[JumpedOffTheSlipperySlope jumps off the slippery slope]] ''on purpose'' in order to execute a GenghisGambit ''on the entire world''.]]
** Suzaku at the beginning appears to be a subversion. For most of the first season he condemns Zero and the Black Knights as nothing but terrorists that are causing unnecessary death and violence, and proceeds to battle them and climb the military ranks while avoiding killing anyone (usually because when faced with the dilemma of his superiors ordering him to kill, circumstances rescue him from going through with it). But come the ending of season one, [[spoiler: after Euphemia is killed by Lelouch,]] Suzaku is not only willing to kill to achieve his goals but season two has him involved with Britannia’s expansionist war that sees him conquering whole nations.
*** Suzaku also qualifies in his quest of changing Britannia’s system, as in the beginning he attempted to be an InternalReformist against the racism and corruption within the government, but as things progress due to the above incident, he simply does whatever it takes, whether it’s aiding in Britannia’s conquests or lying to and betraying his friends, in order to climb the ranks to simply have the power to help his home country.

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%% How does any * Yuu from ''Manga/{{Holyland}}'' fears that his taking the fight to delinquents and gangsters as a BullyHunter makes him little better. Various characters try to assure him that it doesn't.
* Howl, from ''Anime/HowlsMovingCastle'' (the movie, not the book), is [[spoiler:becoming a monster in his efforts to combat both sides
of this relate the war. It's outright stated that only Sophie breaking his contract with Calcifer will prevent this]]. Considering her methods, Suliman might qualify, too.
* Kurapika from ''Manga/HunterXHunter'' seems
to be turning into a monster? * In ''Manga/BlueExorcist'' Mephisto Johan Faust (with this - his clan, the German theme of him) actually does Kurta clan, was wiped out by the whole quote Phantom Troupe, and dedicates it to the exorcists fighting in the Kyoto saga. He addresses first to his brother Rin as such, he has dedicated himself to hunting them down (the sole exception being [[TheMole Hisoka]], who has to resist wasn't a member at the pulsion of time), but his blue flames lest he might burn all methods increasingly feel like they wouldn't be out of his friends but actually most of the protagonists qualify. Especially Yukio whose all character arc epitomizes this trope.
* The monster hunters of ''Manga/{{Claymore}}'' use [[SuperpoweredEvilSide demonic power]] to increase their fighting strength. If
if they use too much, they transform and become living examples of this trope. Special note: here, it's more like "'''She''' who fights monsters".
** Usually it's
were performed by accident, though, [[SuperpowerMeltdown when they over-exceed their limit.]] However, there was one particular time when [[spoiler:Clare was willing to give up her humanity of the Troupe.
* In ''Anime/KaleidoStar'', Yuri Killian is convinced that [[spoiler:his boss Kalos killed his father indirectly
in order to kill Priscilla when she encountered her achieve fame.]] During his long revenge scheme, he needs to win a competition in order to stay at last.Kaleido Stage and prove his stardom to Kalos. In doing so, he [[spoiler:is indirectly responsible for the death of another performer, Sophie Oswald.]]
* ''Anime/CodeGeass'''s Lelouch Akoya Seishu of ''Manga/KenganAshura'' is fully aware a police officer and a martial arts master who dedicated his life to "justice" and became a vigilante who slaughtered criminals with his bare hands. Over time he slowly became a psychotic KnightTemplar and extended his brand of and, "justice" to his victims' families and any rival fighters unlucky enough to get in fact, ''embraces'' this trope. "I choose to commit evil in order to destroy his way. He beats his MoralityChain Hiyama for not giving him the greater evil!" [[spoiler:At results he wants as his MissionControl, and Adam Dudley accuses him of having "Film/DirtyHarry Syndrome".
* In his first appearance in ''Anime/KirbyRightBackAtYa'', Knuckle Joe was consumed by hatred in his quest to get revenge on
the very end Star Warrior who killed his dad. This led him to do terrible things, such as trying to kill Kirby. Meta Knight reveals that he was the one who killed his father and [[YouMonster calls him a monster for the awful acts he committed]].
* In ''Anime/LastExile'', Alex Rowe skates dangerously close to this. Although he never makes the jump into full-out villain territory, his need for revenge against Maestro Delphine and the Guild is all-consuming, and at one point, he [[spoiler:orders his ship to open fire on Delphine's at the coronation ceremony
of the series, he [[JumpedOffTheSlipperySlope jumps off new Empress, even though if they did shoot her down, the slippery slope]] ''on purpose'' in order to execute a GenghisGambit ''on wreckage would have fallen and killed the entire world''.new Empress (who is also the closest thing to a friend he has) and the combined leadership of both Anatoray and Disith, shattering the tenuous peace that had just now been established between them. Fortunately, his helmsman, Campbell, countermands his orders, advising the gunnery crews that 'the Captain's not himself'.]]
** Suzaku at * This trope is given a bit of a workout in ''Manga/{{Monster}}'': [[spoiler:Johan's antagonizing of Tenma and Nina is, in many ways, because he wants them to chase him and make this trope come into effect. In some ways, he actually succeeded with Nina, who shot him during the beginning appears to be a subversion. For most events of the first season episode; however, he condemns Zero and the Black Knights utterly fails to break Tenma.]]
* ''Manga/MoriartyThePatriot'' has William, who was abused
as nothing but terrorists that are causing unnecessary death and violence, and proceeds to battle them and climb the military ranks while avoiding killing anyone (usually because when faced with the dilemma of a street orphan as a child, which definitely informed his superiors ordering him to kill, circumstances rescue him from going through with it). But come the ending lack of season one, [[spoiler: after Euphemia is killed by Lelouch,]] Suzaku is not only willing faith in anything resembling a justice system. So he's decided to kill to achieve his goals but season two has him involved with Britannia’s expansionist war that sees him conquering whole nations.
*** Suzaku also qualifies in his quest
abusers instead of changing Britannia’s system, as in hoping the beginning he attempted to be an InternalReformist against the racism and corruption within the government, but as things progress due to the above incident, he simply does whatever it takes, whether it’s aiding in Britannia’s conquests or lying to and betraying his friends, in order to climb the ranks to simply have the power to help his home country.cops will fix it.



* In ''Manga/YuYuHakusho'', [[spoiler:Toguro's disciples were killed by a demon named Kairen, who challenges him to fight in the Dark Tournament. Toguro fights and kills Kairen, and wishes to become a demon himself (his appearance when using his demonic powers is somewhat similar to Kairen). However, this is partly due to [[MyGreatestFailure his guilt over his failure to protect his disciples]], and he wishes for an opponent strong enough to defeat him.]]
** Also, the StartOfDarkness for ''Manga/YuYuHakusho'' villain Sensui.
* In ''Anime/LastExile'', Alex Rowe skates dangerously close to this. Although he never makes the jump into full-out villain territory, his need for revenge against Maestro Delphine and the Guild is all-consuming, and at one point, he [[spoiler:orders his ship to open fire on Delphine's at the coronation ceremony of the new Empress, even though if they did shoot her down, the wreckage would have fallen and killed the new Empress (who is also the closest thing to a friend he has) and the combined leadership of both Anatoray and Disith, shattering the tenuous peace that had just now been established between them. Fortunately, his helmsman, Campbell, countermands his orders, advising the gunnery crews that 'the Captain's not himself'.]]

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* In ''Manga/YuYuHakusho'', [[spoiler:Toguro's disciples were killed by ''Manga/NegimaMagisterNegiMagi'':
** Haruna identifies [[spoiler:Kurt Godel]] as being one of these. He ''was'' an undeniable good guy as
a demon named Kairen, who challenges him kid, only to fight in grow up into a completely manipulative {{jerkass}} little better than his enemy.
** In a flashback, Tsuruko uses
the Dark Tournament. Toguro fights and kills Kairen, and wishes page quote as part of a lecture to become a demon himself (his appearance young Setsuna when using his demonic powers is somewhat similar to Kairen). However, this is partly due to [[MyGreatestFailure his guilt over his failure to protect his disciples]], and he wishes for an opponent strong enough to defeat him.]]
** Also,
showing her the StartOfDarkness for ''Manga/YuYuHakusho'' villain Sensui.
* In ''Anime/LastExile'', Alex Rowe skates dangerously close to this. Although he never makes the jump into full-out villain territory, his need for revenge against Maestro Delphine and the Guild is all-consuming, and at one point, he [[spoiler:orders his ship to open fire on Delphine's at the coronation ceremony of the new Empress, even though if they did shoot her down, the wreckage would have fallen and killed the new Empress (who is also the closest thing to a friend he has) and the combined leadership of both Anatoray and Disith, shattering the tenuous peace that had just now been established between them. Fortunately, his helmsman, Campbell, countermands his orders, advising the gunnery crews that 'the Captain's not himself'.]]
[[EvilWeapon Youto Hina]].



* In ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'', Guts is every bit as cruel and sadistic as the Apostles he hunts (towards them at least) at the beginning of the series. He deliberately tortures the Baron and Count in the beginning chapters, and, after fighting with Rosine, doesn't stop trying to kill her even after an innocent girl who was tagging along threw herself in front of him. Currently, the only thing preventing him from completely going off the deep end is [[MoralityChain his need to protect Casca from the monsters he fights]], and, occasionally, [[SuperpoweredEvilSide from himself]].
** And the worst part of this all? If he ''wasn't'' willing to sink to that level of depravity, he would have gotten killed a dozen times over. As bad as he is, ''everything else is '''[[CrapsackWorld worse]]'''''.
** As if that weren't enough, due to his unstable personality, which developed in the face of [[DeusAngstMachina unreasonable adversity]], coupled with the effects of this trope, Guts now struggles with a rather powerful [[EnemyWithin inner demon]].
** Guts' Dragonslayer was originally "just" a huge sword that looked more like a slab of iron. Over the course of the series, the Dragonslayer has slain so many Apostles that it has become demonic as well, thus able to harm things such as ghosts that are normally incorporeal and unable to take damage from normal weapons.
** And he still comes across as much better than his adversaries, which showcases how bad they are. He is slightly more fettered than them and reluctant at hurting others first.
** The PV for the anime beginning in July 2016 makes the theme explicit by actually quoting Nietzsche's "He who fights monsters" passage from ''Beyond Good and Evil'', in the original German no less!
* Ray Lundgren from ''Anime/GunXSword''. At least the protagonist Van, while skirting this line, still had standards about not ruining property, taking innocent lives, etc. Ray, on the other hand, will gladly kill ''anyone'', innocents included, if they stand between him and The Claw. He even claims that, as long as he can kill The Claw, [[AndThenJohnWasAZombie he doesn't mind becoming a murderer himself.]]
** Subverted when he [[spoiler:wastes his only chance of killing his nemesis by [[ExactlyWhatIAimedAt purposefully missing his last shot]] in order to foil The Claw's plan once and for all]].
* Howl, from ''Anime/HowlsMovingCastle'' (the movie, not the book), is [[spoiler:becoming a monster in his efforts to combat both sides of the war. It's outright stated that only Sophie breaking his contract with Calcifer will prevent this]]. Considering her methods, Suliman might qualify, too.
* Used in ''Manga/OnePiece'', where one of the {{Big Bad}}s, Arlong and his crew of fishmen, oppress humans with the SocialDarwinist explanation that since they are physically more powerful than humans, they deserve to rule over them. Flip ahead several hundred chapters and it's revealed that they behave this way [[FreudianExcuse because they were once horrendously oppressed and enslaved themselves]] by humans that [[FantasticRacism considered them subhuman and treated them accordingly]].

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* In ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'', Guts is every bit as cruel and sadistic as the Apostles he hunts (towards them at least) at the beginning of the series. He deliberately tortures the Baron and Count in the beginning chapters, and, after fighting with Rosine, doesn't stop trying to kill her even after an innocent girl who was tagging along threw herself in front of him. Currently, the only thing preventing him from completely going off the deep end is [[MoralityChain his need to protect Casca from the monsters he fights]], and, occasionally, [[SuperpoweredEvilSide from himself]].
** And the worst part of this all? If he ''wasn't'' willing to sink to that level of depravity, he would have gotten killed a dozen times over. As bad as he is, ''everything else is '''[[CrapsackWorld worse]]'''''.
** As if that weren't enough, due to his unstable personality, which developed in the face of [[DeusAngstMachina unreasonable adversity]], coupled with the effects of this trope, Guts now struggles with a rather powerful [[EnemyWithin inner demon]].
** Guts' Dragonslayer was originally "just" a huge sword that looked more like a slab of iron. Over the course of the series, the Dragonslayer has slain so many Apostles that it has become demonic as well, thus able to harm things such as ghosts that are normally incorporeal and unable to take damage from normal weapons.
** And he still comes across as much better than his adversaries, which showcases how bad they are. He is slightly more fettered than them and reluctant at hurting others first.
** The PV for the anime beginning in July 2016 makes the theme explicit by actually quoting Nietzsche's "He who fights monsters" passage from ''Beyond Good and Evil'', in the original German no less!
* Ray Lundgren from ''Anime/GunXSword''. At least the protagonist Van, while skirting this line, still had standards about not ruining property, taking innocent lives, etc. Ray, on the other hand, will gladly kill ''anyone'', innocents included, if they stand between him and The Claw. He even claims that, as long as he can kill The Claw, [[AndThenJohnWasAZombie he doesn't mind becoming a murderer himself.]]
** Subverted when he [[spoiler:wastes his only chance of killing his nemesis by [[ExactlyWhatIAimedAt purposefully missing his last shot]] in order to foil The Claw's plan once and for all]].
* Howl, from ''Anime/HowlsMovingCastle'' (the movie, not the book), is [[spoiler:becoming a monster in his efforts to combat both sides of the war. It's outright stated that only Sophie breaking his contract with Calcifer will prevent this]]. Considering her methods, Suliman might qualify, too.
* Used in ''Manga/OnePiece'', where one of the {{Big Bad}}s, Arlong
''Manga/OnePiece'':
**Arlong
and his crew of fishmen, fishmen oppress humans with the SocialDarwinist explanation that since they are physically more powerful than humans, they deserve to rule over them. Flip ahead several hundred chapters and it's revealed that they behave this way [[FreudianExcuse because they were once horrendously oppressed and enslaved themselves]] by humans that [[FantasticRacism considered them subhuman and treated them accordingly]].accordingly]].
** Rob Lucci's belief in "[[KnightTemplar Dark Justice]]" makes him just as brutal and violent as the criminals he hunts; Sanji and Franky even lampshade it after seeing Lucci [[YouHaveFailedMe brutally execute Nero for failure]], outright declaring the so-called "agent of justice" to be more evil than they are.



** Rob Lucci's belief in "[[KnightTemplar Dark Justice]]" makes him just as brutal and violent as the criminals he hunts; Sanji and Franky even lampshade it after seeing Lucci [[YouHaveFailedMe brutally execute Nero for failure]], outright declaring the so-called "agent of justice" to be more evil than they are.



* This trope is given a bit of a workout in ''Manga/{{Monster}}'': [[spoiler:Johan's antagonizing of Tenma and Nina is, in many ways, because he wants them to chase him and make this trope come into effect. In some ways, he actually succeeded with Nina, who shot him during the events of the first episode; however, he utterly fails to break Tenma.]]

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* This trope happens to [[spoiler:Sayaka]] in ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'', though part of it is given a bit of a workout due to her despair at slowly [[spoiler: losing the boy she's in ''Manga/{{Monster}}'': [[spoiler:Johan's antagonizing of Tenma love with]], and Nina is, in being powerless to stop it. As she fights more and more witches, she starts to become blood-lustful, reaching the point where she seems more insane than the witches, [[spoiler:even before she turns into one herself]].
** [[spoiler: This is the fate of ''every'' Puella Magi. If their [[SoulJar Soul Gem]] ever becomes fully [[TheCorruption corrupted]], they are doomed to become witches themselves. The final episode has Madoka find a way to stop this cycle, at the cost of her existence.]]
** In the ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion Story]]'' [[spoiler:Homura, who had spent
many ways, because he wants them timelines fighting Kyubey to chase him prevent Madoka's contract, ends up hijacking his plan (and literally becoming a Luciferlike figure) to circumvent the Law of Cycles Madoka created.]]
* ''Manga/RamenFighterMiki'': When Megumi accuses Miki (a prototype of TheBully seen on fiction, incredible strong
and make this trope come into effect. In some ways, he actually succeeded with Nina, who shot him during dumb) of bullying her, Megumi is truly surprised when Miki retorts that Megumi is the events true bully – by using MaliciousSlander, sabotaging Miki’s work and setting tramps against Miki – a realistic depiction of TheBully in RealLife.
* ''Manga/RyusPath'': Both Condor and Medor[[note]]the talking dog that Ryu encounters in front
of the first episode; however, crystal[[/note]] note that in trying to defend his friends, Ryu has become just as violent as those who he utterly fails claims to break Tenma.]]fight against. Even Ryu agrees to this.
-->'''Ryu:''' ''"Monster"....Condor said the same thing. You're right, Medor, it's true. Without realizing it, I've turned into a monster. I didn't want this...I just wanted to help my people.''



* Char Aznable of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' fits this nicely, up until he acknowledges to his sister that revenge wasn't the best idea later on in the series. However, he turns back to being this in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack''.
** In ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'', [[spoiler:Louise Halevy]] becomes this as [[spoiler:she turns into a DarkActionGirl to get revenge for her family's death and the loss of her hand. She ''does'' get to kill the girl who caused her disgrace, but by that point, she's so far gone that her ex-boyfriend, Saji, has to dive over the DespairEventHorizon to stop her from hurting herself any more.]]
*** [[spoiler:Speaking of murdering the killer, Setsuna F. Seiei almost crossed this point of no return, too, by trying to kill Ali Al-Saachez, the man who fooled him into murdering his own parents in the name of God. Thank to Marina Ismail's spiritual intervention with SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic by Kenji Kawai, he was saved from becoming a monster like Saachez in time.]]
*** In fact, Celestial Being as a whole qualifies for this trope in the first season.
** The same thing happens in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE'', [[TearJerker heartbreakingly]]. [[spoiler:Flit has been a {{Messia|nicArchetype}}h who worked to make humans understand each other while defending themselves against the Unknown Enemies -- until his love Yurin dies in the hands of the child Saachez clone, Desil Galette, at which point Flit lost all his idealism and became a murderous monster just like the UE. It got worse after Yark Dole reveals that the UE are HumanAllAlong, as Flit refuses to recognize them as fellow humans who are also suffering in the hands of the evil Earth Federation.]]
* ''Manga/DeathNote'': Light Yagami begins using the supernatural notebook to rid society of criminals, but soon his black list expands to include anyone who stands in his way for any reason, starting with the FBI, and he even intends to eliminate other "useless" people who aren't outright heinous criminals through accidents and disease. Along the way, he coolly manipulates the feelings of both people and shinigami. Repeatedly stating that he plans to become the god of the new world he is trying to create doesn't help matters, either. Ryuk even lampshades this, wondering aloud if Light will ultimately be the only bad person left, but he's just in for the spectacle.
* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' gives us Kaname Tousen, who became obsessed with justice when a friend of his was murdered by her Shinigami husband who managed to get away with the crime, even if said obsession entailed helping the Big Bad become a god and not really worrying about the countless innocent lives he was killing or planning to kill along the way. [[spoiler:It eventually transpires that the reason he turned against Soul Society was for revenge (he has previously implied it was because UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans, though this was still somewhat true), believing that forgiveness of any sort was a mockery of justice and feeling he was completely entitled to take revenge on Soul Society and all of its inhabitants.]]

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* Char Aznable of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' fits this nicely, up until he acknowledges In ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'', several Ghoul Investigators are shown to his sister that revenge wasn't have become just as sadistic and cruel as the best idea later worst Ghouls. In particular, the revenge-driven Kureo Mado takes pleasure in the suffering he inflicts on in Ghouls and is responsible for some of the most vile actions within the series. However, When he turns back corners the gentle Ryoko Fueguchi, he delights in showing her the weapon he has made from her murdered husband and taunts her before using it to being kill her. Later on, he uses one of her arms as bait to lure in her 14-year old daughter -- this in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack''.
time he has weapons made from ''both'' parents, and taunts the little girl with them extensively.
** In ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'', [[spoiler:Louise Halevy]] After deciding that [[PayEvilUntoEvil hurting others]] is the only way to protect the people he loves, Ken Kaneki slowly becomes this just as [[spoiler:she turns into a DarkActionGirl brutal as the Ghouls he considers to get revenge be monsters. He engages in MonstrousCannibalism to increase his strength as quickly as possible, and even threatens to torture people for her family's death and the loss of her hand. She ''does'' get information on multiple occasions. It takes him [[KickTheMoralityPet nearly killing]] his friends to kill the girl who caused her disgrace, but by that point, she's so make him realize how far gone that her ex-boyfriend, Saji, has to dive over the DespairEventHorizon to stop her from hurting herself any more.]]
*** [[spoiler:Speaking of murdering the killer, Setsuna F. Seiei almost crossed this point of no return, too, by trying to kill Ali Al-Saachez, the man who fooled him into murdering his own parents in the name of God. Thank to Marina Ismail's spiritual intervention with SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic by Kenji Kawai,
he was saved from becoming a monster like Saachez in time.]]
*** In fact, Celestial Being as a whole qualifies for this trope in the first season.
** The same thing happens in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE'', [[TearJerker heartbreakingly]]. [[spoiler:Flit has been a {{Messia|nicArchetype}}h who worked to make humans understand each other while defending themselves against the Unknown Enemies -- until his love Yurin dies in the hands of the child Saachez clone, Desil Galette, at which point Flit lost all his idealism and became a murderous monster just like the UE. It got worse after Yark Dole reveals that the UE are HumanAllAlong, as Flit refuses to recognize them as fellow humans who are also suffering in the hands of the evil Earth Federation.]]
* ''Manga/DeathNote'': Light Yagami begins using the supernatural notebook to rid society of criminals, but soon his black list expands to include anyone who stands in his way for any reason, starting with the FBI, and he even intends to eliminate other "useless" people who aren't outright heinous criminals through accidents and disease. Along the way, he coolly manipulates the feelings of both people and shinigami. Repeatedly stating that he plans to become the god of the new world he is trying to create doesn't help matters, either. Ryuk even lampshades this, wondering aloud if Light will ultimately be the only bad person left, but he's just in for the spectacle.
* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' gives us Kaname Tousen, who became obsessed with justice when a friend of his was murdered by her Shinigami husband who managed to get away with the crime, even if said obsession entailed helping the Big Bad become a god and not really worrying about the countless innocent lives he was killing or planning to kill along the way. [[spoiler:It eventually transpires that the reason he turned against Soul Society was for revenge (he has previously implied it was because UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans, though this was still somewhat true), believing that forgiveness of any sort was a mockery of justice and feeling he was completely entitled to take revenge on Soul Society and all of its inhabitants.]]
is.



* The ''El Baile De La Muerte'' arc of ''Manga/BlackLagoon'' is an exploration of this trope in regards to [[NinjaMaid Roberta]], who sets out on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge against the people responsible for the kaboom that killed her master, a rampage that has her going AxCrazy during the course of it. [[spoiler:It turns out that Caxton, the guy who ordered the attack, is '''not''' the monster that Roberta believes he is, but someone whose well intentions resulted in innocent people getting hurt because he and his military are locked in the eponymous "dance of death", using violence as their main means to deal with violence. Only Garcia, Fabiola, and a {{plan}} by Rock are enough to snap Roberta out of psycho-mode so that she can return home to those she loves.]]
** Rock himself, throughout the series, but particularly during Roberta's Blood Trail where he [[spoiler:develops a sadistic side due to Revy and Roanapur's environment, manipulating major players in the city and gambling with peoples lives, including Garcia, a mere child. Fabiola even states that Rock is now considered by her to be "the biggest number 1 bastard in Roanapur".]]
* In the original ''Manga/YuGiOh'', this was the reason for Kaiba's ruthlessness: he and his little brother Mokuba had been abandoned at an orphanage, and subsequently adopted by the very ruthless Gozaburo. In order to survive and take over his business, Seto adopted his adopted father's cutthroat tactics. After he loses the Battle City tournament and orders Mokuba to prematurely begin the detonation of the island, Mokuba gives him a much needed WhatTheHellHero over how he changed for the worse.
* In ''Anime/YuGiOhGX'', Judai takes revenge on the Dark World monsters for Johan's supposed death, and ultimately embraces the concept of being evil in order to fight evil, and then proceeds to burn entire villages to the ground, while part of him sits trapped in his own mind, muttering ItsAllMyFault. [[spoiler:It is. If he had not rushed into Brron's castle without O'Brien and Jim, everything would've turned out differently. Well, if he also failed to be so supremely focused on "I'll do absolutely anything to get my revenge, no matter who or what I have to sacrifice." anyways.]]
* Aporia is like this in ''Anime/YuGiOh5Ds''. After surviving the BadFuture where humanity was wiped out by the Meklord Emperors, he tried to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong, but barely cared about how many innocents had to die in the process, becoming as much a machine as the things that had caused him so much grief and using the Meklords himself in his goal.
* ''Anime/YuGiOhZEXAL'': While not obsessed with revenge, Shark was unaware that [[spoiler:the Barians he were fighting were his own people and that he is in fact their leader. In the end, he joins them]].
* Even after his semi-HeelFaceTurn, Accelerator in ''Literature/ACertainMagicalIndex'' will mercilessly kill anyone who harms innocents, or even worse, try to harm [[spoiler:Last Order or any of the Misaka clones]]. Granted, he calls himself a villain despite saving innocents, since he knows his rather violent methods are not "heroic", especially compared to Touma, the one Accelerator considers fits "the hero" type.
* In his first appearance in ''Anime/KirbyRightBackAtYa'', Knuckle Joe was consumed by hatred in his quest to get revenge on the Star Warrior who killed his dad. This led him to do terrible things, such as trying to kill Kirby. Meta Knight reveals that he was the one who killed his father and [[YouMonster calls him a monster for the awful acts he committed]].
* Very often in the subtext in ''Franchise/GhostInTheShell''. Even though he lacks cybernetic enhancements and has no special forces background, Togusa is a very valuable member of the team, as with his former career as a street cop and a wife and daughter at home, he often serves as the voice of reason and urges the others to restrain themselves from using excessive violence and illegal methods.
* This happens to [[spoiler:Sayaka]] in ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'', though part of it is due to her despair at slowly [[spoiler: losing the boy she's in love with]], and being powerless to stop it. As she fights more and more witches, she starts to become blood-lustful, reaching the point where she seems more insane than the witches, [[spoiler:even before she turns into one herself]].
** [[spoiler: This is the fate of ''every'' Puella Magi. If their [[SoulJar Soul Gem]] ever becomes fully [[TheCorruption corrupted]], they are doomed to become witches themselves. The final episode has Madoka find a way to stop this cycle, at the cost of her existence.]]
** In the ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion Story]]'' [[spoiler:Homura, who had spent many timelines fighting Kyubey to prevent Madoka's contract, ends up hijacking his plan (and literally becoming a Luciferlike figure) to circumvent the Law of Cycles Madoka created.]]
* ''Manga/RamenFighterMiki'': When Megumi accuses Miki (a prototype of TheBully seen on fiction, incredible strong and dumb) of bullying her, Megumi is truly surprised when Miki retorts that Megumi is the true bully – by using MaliciousSlander, sabotaging Miki’s work and setting tramps against Miki – a realistic depiction of TheBully in RealLife.
* ''Manga/RyusPath'': Both Condor and Medor[[note]]the talking dog that Ryu encounters in front of the crystal[[/note]] note that in trying to defend his friends, Ryu has become just as violent as those who he claims to fight against. Even Ryu agrees to this.
-->'''Ryu:''' ''"Monster"....Condor said the same thing. You're right, Medor, it's true. Without realizing it, I've turned into a monster. I didn't want this...I just wanted to help my people.''
* ''Manga/FairyTail'':
** It's been stated that those who use too much Dragon Slayer Magic take the risk of becoming a dragon themselves. [[spoiler:Acnologia was once a Slayer who wanted {{revenge}} on the dragons, but after transforming into one himself his list expanded to the point he wouldn't mind if he just [[OmnicidalManiac wiped out the rest of the world too in the process]]. Irene Belserion was a proponent of human/dragon relationships and made Dragon Slayer magic to fight the human-eating ones, but her own transformation and the fear and hatred her people treated her with (coupled with the trauma of realizing she could never again be human) turned her into a {{sociopath}}.]]
** [[spoiler: Devil Slayers like Gray aren't exempt from this either, as Invel said that Devil Slayers will eventually become the demons they fight due to TheCorruption. Gray himself almost becomes this when he tries to kill Natsu/E.N.D., and when he snaps out of it [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he's so horrified]] he tried to perform a HeroicSacrifice to take down Zeref.]]
* Kurapika from ''Manga/HunterXHunter'' seems to be turning into this - his clan, the Kurta clan, was wiped out by the Phantom Troupe, and as such, he has dedicated himself to hunting them down (the sole exception being [[TheMole Hisoka]], who wasn't a member at the time), but his methods increasingly feel like they wouldn't be out of character if they were performed by one of the Troupe.
* Ian deals with this in ''Manga/ACruelGodReigns''. He struggles with being angered at Jeremy's failed attempts to recover from being a HookerWithAHeartOfGold and FunctionalAddict and falling in love with him, but he worries that if he acts upon either of these, he will become like his ArchnemesisDad who caused all of Jeremy's problems in the first place.
* Yuu from ''Manga/{{Holyland}}'' fears that his taking the fight to delinquents and gangsters as a BullyHunter makes him little better. Various characters try to assure him that it doesn't.
* Discussed extensively within ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', both by the narrative itself ''and'' the characters. Leaders such as Erwin Smith and Dot Pixis embody the belief that throwing away human compassion is necessary to win against the Titans, ruthlessly sacrificing the lives of their soldiers for even the smallest chance of victory. Armin comes to believe that throwing away one's humanity is the only way to win against monsters, while Jean expresses to him doubt over whether such methods are truly worth it. Mikasa has honed herself into a ruthless fighter for the sake of Eren, even going so far as to threaten the lives of her own comrades. On the other hand, Eren is a far more literal example: [[spoiler: becoming a Titan in order to fight against the Titans]], but also struggling to embrace the ruthless actions others ask of him. Finally, there are the other [[spoiler: Titan Shifters]], who play with this trope in an interesting fashion: [[spoiler: their own humanity comes back to haunt them, causing them to make critical mistakes. Annie spares Armin, and finds her mercy repaid with being exposed and trapped by the military. Reiner is unable to cope with the guilt of his actions, suppressing his memories and creating a false persona in order to function. Bertolt internalizes considerable remorse and self-loathing, unable to act on his own even to prevent Reiner's SanitySlippage and when his own emotions boil over, he makes reckless mistakes that allow Eren to be rescued. Finally, Ymir fell InLoveWithTheMark, and is successfully blackmailed using her feelings for Krista]].
** Later in the story, Eren realises he's not so different from [[spoiler:Reiner, Bertolt and Annie]], going so far to telling [[spoiler:Reiner]] that they/their ideals are the same, and they're carrying out their plans/attacks for the same reasons. He doesn't entirely seem to mind, however, so long as he achieves his goal of wiping out the enemy ([[spoiler:and no, it's not titans anymore, ''as such'']]), and he's accepted that that's his role in life.
** Seems to also be the case with both [[spoiler:Eren Kruger]] and [[spoiler:Zeke Yeager]], who each claim they're [[spoiler:trying to save the Eldian people]], but have only ever been shown [[spoiler:attacking and killing Eldians (and turning them into titans, the very thing they're trying to stop) -- with no apparent guilt]]. Granted, it's hard to know if they're telling the truth (especially in the case of [[spoiler:Zeke]]), but the idea seems to be that [[spoiler:to protect the ones you love you have to become a monster and throw away your humanity in order to succeed, perhaps so that you ''don't'' feel any amount of guilt to hold you back]]. [[spoiler:Kruger]] brought up that [[spoiler:love is important in fighting your enemy, and that you mustn't forget it]], which could be referencing this trope, but it's left somewhat vague.
** Eren then becomes the harshest and possibly most painful example possible. [[spoiler: Eren began the series as a ruthless, but well meaning soldier dedicated to avenging humanity by getting rid of all the Titans. After a massive battle against his enemies, as Eren finds out in the worst way possible they aren't truly alone in the world, and the rest of the world utterly hates them for the atrocities the Eldians committed for centuries, even when Eldians were ultimately defeated and subjugated, Eren decides to fix this problem by commanding the remaining Pure Titans aka, ''the Wall Titans'' to commit mass genocide on the rest of the world.]]
* In ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'', several Ghoul Investigators are shown to have become just as sadistic and cruel as the worst Ghouls. In particular, the revenge-driven Kureo Mado takes pleasure in the suffering he inflicts on Ghouls and is responsible for some of the most vile actions within the series. When he corners the gentle Ryoko Fueguchi, he delights in showing her the weapon he has made from her murdered husband and taunts her before using it to kill her. Later on, he uses one of her arms as bait to lure in her 14-year old daughter -- this time he has weapons made from ''both'' parents, and taunts the little girl with them extensively.
** After deciding that [[PayEvilUntoEvil hurting others]] is the only way to protect the people he loves, Ken Kaneki slowly becomes just as brutal as the Ghouls he considers to be monsters. He engages in MonstrousCannibalism to increase his strength as quickly as possible, and even threatens to torture people for information on multiple occasions. It takes him [[KickTheMoralityPet nearly killing]] his friends to make him realize how far gone he is.
* Kyosuke Munakata in ''Anime/Danganronpa3TheEndOfHopesPeakHighSchool'' is obsessed with winning the war against [[ApocalypseCult Ultimate Despair]] to the point where he declares Makoto a traitor and tries to have him executed for wanting to rehabilitate them instead of killing them outright. After Makoto explains his actions [[spoiler: in ''VisualNovel/Danganronpa2GoodbyeDespair'']], Munakata declares him unworthy of the title of [[TheParagon Ultimate Hope]] and again tries to kill him on the grounds that his [[SuicidalPacifism naivete]] would lead himself and others to death and despair while [[MotiveRant ranting]] that he'd be willing to kill thousands for the sake of ending Despair.
* In ''Anime/CrossAnge'', Jill, leader of the Norma of Arzenal and [[LaResistance Libertus]], once cared deeply about her subordinates, but since the failure of the first Libertus, she had become cold, ruthless and manipulative, and only cares about killing Embryo, [[GeneralRipper and will use anyone as pawns, and keep secrets and trust nobody else]]. Ange immediately grows to distrust her, and when Jill tries likening herself to Ange (both disinherited princesses) after attempting to use her maid and closest friend as collateral to follow her plan to use everyone else as a distraction, Ange angrily rebuts her by calling her as bad as everyone they're fighting. [[spoiler:Turns out the first Libertus failed because Embryo raped Jill in both mind and body.]] Jill comes out of this after being forced into fessing up and having her leadership relinquished.
* ''Manga/VinlandSaga'': [[spoiler:Askeladd is half-Welsh, half-Norse]] and hates the destruction and loss of life the Viking Age has brought to the British Isles. In attempting to find a way to end the Viking Age, he became a viking mercenary commander and eventually took part in the Danish-Saxon War, committing atrocity upon atrocity. Unlike most examples he is fully aware that he's long since been tainted by his own deeds: When someone who can actually build a better world asks why he didn't try himself, [[spoiler:Askeladd]] essentially responds that he was too far gone long before he had the power to change anything, [[NoPlaceForMeThere and any world he'd build would be tainted by his own evil]]. [[spoiler:Askeladd eventually dies this way, assassinating Sweyn Forkbeard before dying at [[TheWisePrince Canute]]'s hand to make sure Canute will ascend to the Danish crown and stop the bloodshed.]]
* ''Literature/GoblinSlayer'' {{discusse|dTrope}}s this trope. [[DarkAndTroubledPast The titular Goblin Slayer is deeply traumatized by seeing his hometown invaded by goblins]], who [[RapePillageAndBurn tortured, raped, and murder the whole village]] while he could only [[ForcedToWatch hide and watch in terror]]. [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge He subsequently devoted his entire life to hunting and killing goblins]], obsessing over finding the most efficient ways to defeat them, studying their methods and biology, and doing little else. As a result, [[NoSocialSkills he's stunted psychologically and unable to form real relationships with other people]], and comes off as [[HorrifyingHero rather disturbing]] to everyone else, particularly when he uses brutal but extremely efficient methods to kill goblins. Then he [[LeaveNoSurvivors goes into their homes and kills them, all of them, leaving no survivors]]. In his own words, "to the goblins, I am the goblin." The trope is ultimately {{subverted|Trope}}, as however much he enjoys killing goblins, he never loses sight of the fact that he would feel ''even better'' if there were no goblins at all in the world. He also has something that [[AlwaysChaoticEvil no goblin does]]: the ability to [[CharacterDevelopment change]].
* Akoya Seishu of ''Manga/KenganAshura'' is a police officer and a martial arts master who dedicated his life to "justice" and became a vigilante who slaughtered criminals with his bare hands. Over time he slowly became a psychotic KnightTemplar and extended his brand of "justice" to his victims' families and any rival fighters unlucky enough to get in his way. He beats his MoralityChain Hiyama for not giving him the results he wants as his MissionControl, and Adam Dudley accuses him of having "Film/DirtyHarry Syndrome".
* ''Manga/MoriartyThePatriot'' has William, who was abused as a street orphan as a child, which definitely informed his lack of faith in anything resembling a justice system. So he's decided to kill abusers instead of hoping the cops will fix it.

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* The ''El Baile De La Muerte'' arc of ''Manga/BlackLagoon'' is an exploration of this trope in regards to [[NinjaMaid Roberta]], who sets out on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge against the people responsible for the kaboom that killed her master, a rampage that has her going AxCrazy during the course of it. [[spoiler:It turns out that Caxton, the guy who ordered the attack, is '''not''' the monster that Roberta believes he is, but someone whose well intentions resulted in innocent people getting hurt because he and his military are locked in the eponymous "dance of death", using violence as their main means to deal with violence. Only Garcia, Fabiola, and a {{plan}} by Rock are enough to snap Roberta out of psycho-mode so that she can return home to those she loves.]]
** Rock himself, throughout the series, but particularly during Roberta's Blood Trail where he [[spoiler:develops a sadistic side due to Revy and Roanapur's environment, manipulating major players in the city and gambling with peoples lives, including Garcia, a mere child. Fabiola even states that Rock is now considered by her to be "the biggest number 1 bastard in Roanapur".]]
* In the original ''Manga/YuGiOh'', this was the reason for Kaiba's ruthlessness: he and his little brother Mokuba had been abandoned at an orphanage, and subsequently adopted by the very ruthless Gozaburo. In order to survive and take over his business, Seto adopted his adopted father's cutthroat tactics. After he loses the Battle City tournament and orders Mokuba to prematurely begin the detonation of the island, Mokuba gives him a much needed WhatTheHellHero over how he changed for the worse.
* In ''Anime/YuGiOhGX'', Judai takes revenge on the Dark World monsters for Johan's supposed death, and ultimately embraces the concept of being evil in order to fight evil, and then proceeds to burn entire villages to the ground, while part of him sits trapped in his own mind, muttering ItsAllMyFault. [[spoiler:It is. If he had not rushed into Brron's castle without O'Brien and Jim, everything would've turned out differently. Well, if he also failed to be so supremely focused on "I'll do absolutely anything to get my revenge, no matter who or what I have to sacrifice." anyways.]]
* Aporia is like this in ''Anime/YuGiOh5Ds''. After surviving the BadFuture where humanity was wiped out by the Meklord Emperors, he tried to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong, but barely cared about how many innocents had to die in the process, becoming as much a machine as the things that had caused him so much grief and using the Meklords himself in his goal.
* ''Anime/YuGiOhZEXAL'': While not obsessed with revenge, Shark was unaware that [[spoiler:the Barians he were fighting were his own people and that he is in fact their leader. In the end, he joins them]].
* Even after his semi-HeelFaceTurn, Accelerator in ''Literature/ACertainMagicalIndex'' will mercilessly kill anyone who harms innocents, or even worse, try to harm [[spoiler:Last Order or any of the Misaka clones]]. Granted, he calls himself a villain despite saving innocents, since he knows his rather violent methods are not "heroic", especially compared to Touma, the one Accelerator considers fits "the hero" type.
* In his first appearance in ''Anime/KirbyRightBackAtYa'', Knuckle Joe was consumed by hatred in his quest to get revenge on the Star Warrior who killed his dad. This led him to do terrible things, such as trying to kill Kirby. Meta Knight reveals that he was the one who killed his father and [[YouMonster calls him a monster for the awful acts he committed]].
* Very often in the subtext in ''Franchise/GhostInTheShell''. Even though he lacks cybernetic enhancements and has no special forces background, Togusa is a very valuable member of the team, as with his former career as a street cop and a wife and daughter at home, he often serves as the voice of reason and urges the others to restrain themselves from using excessive violence and illegal methods.
* This happens to [[spoiler:Sayaka]] in ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'', though part of it is due to her despair at slowly [[spoiler: losing the boy she's in love with]], and being powerless to stop it. As she fights more and more witches, she starts to become blood-lustful, reaching the point where she seems more insane than the witches, [[spoiler:even before she turns into one herself]].
** [[spoiler: This is the fate of ''every'' Puella Magi. If their [[SoulJar Soul Gem]] ever becomes fully [[TheCorruption corrupted]], they are doomed to become witches themselves. The final episode has Madoka find a way to stop this cycle, at the cost of her existence.]]
** In the ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion Story]]'' [[spoiler:Homura, who had spent many timelines fighting Kyubey to prevent Madoka's contract, ends up hijacking his plan (and literally becoming a Luciferlike figure) to circumvent the Law of Cycles Madoka created.]]
* ''Manga/RamenFighterMiki'': When Megumi accuses Miki (a prototype of TheBully seen on fiction, incredible strong and dumb) of bullying her, Megumi is truly surprised when Miki retorts that Megumi is the true bully – by using MaliciousSlander, sabotaging Miki’s work and setting tramps against Miki – a realistic depiction of TheBully in RealLife.
* ''Manga/RyusPath'': Both Condor and Medor[[note]]the talking dog that Ryu encounters in front of the crystal[[/note]] note that in trying to defend his friends, Ryu has become just as violent as those who he claims to fight against. Even Ryu agrees to this.
-->'''Ryu:''' ''"Monster"....Condor said the same thing. You're right, Medor, it's true. Without realizing it, I've turned into a monster. I didn't want this...I just wanted to help my people.''
* ''Manga/FairyTail'':
** It's been stated that those who use too much Dragon Slayer Magic take the risk of becoming a dragon themselves. [[spoiler:Acnologia was once a Slayer who wanted {{revenge}} on the dragons, but after transforming into one himself his list expanded to the point he wouldn't mind if he just [[OmnicidalManiac wiped out the rest of the world too in the process]]. Irene Belserion was a proponent of human/dragon relationships and made Dragon Slayer magic to fight the human-eating ones, but her own transformation and the fear and hatred her people treated her with (coupled with the trauma of realizing she could never again be human) turned her into a {{sociopath}}.]]
** [[spoiler: Devil Slayers like Gray aren't exempt from this either, as Invel said that Devil Slayers will eventually become the demons they fight due to TheCorruption. Gray himself almost becomes this when he tries to kill Natsu/E.N.D., and when he snaps out of it [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he's so horrified]] he tried to perform a HeroicSacrifice to take down Zeref.]]
* Kurapika from ''Manga/HunterXHunter'' seems to be turning into this - his clan, the Kurta clan, was wiped out by the Phantom Troupe, and as such, he has dedicated himself to hunting them down (the sole exception being [[TheMole Hisoka]], who wasn't a member at the time), but his methods increasingly feel like they wouldn't be out of character if they were performed by one of the Troupe.
* Ian deals with this in ''Manga/ACruelGodReigns''. He struggles with being angered at Jeremy's failed attempts to recover from being a HookerWithAHeartOfGold and FunctionalAddict and falling in love with him, but he worries that if he acts upon either of these, he will become like his ArchnemesisDad who caused all of Jeremy's problems in the first place.
* Yuu from ''Manga/{{Holyland}}'' fears that his taking the fight to delinquents and gangsters as a BullyHunter makes him little better. Various characters try to assure him that it doesn't.
* Discussed extensively within ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', both by the narrative itself ''and'' the characters. Leaders such as Erwin Smith and Dot Pixis embody the belief that throwing away human compassion is necessary to win against the Titans, ruthlessly sacrificing the lives of their soldiers for even the smallest chance of victory. Armin comes to believe that throwing away one's humanity is the only way to win against monsters, while Jean expresses to him doubt over whether such methods are truly worth it. Mikasa has honed herself into a ruthless fighter for the sake of Eren, even going so far as to threaten the lives of her own comrades. On the other hand, Eren is a far more literal example: [[spoiler: becoming a Titan in order to fight against the Titans]], but also struggling to embrace the ruthless actions others ask of him. Finally, there are the other [[spoiler: Titan Shifters]], who play with this trope in an interesting fashion: [[spoiler: their own humanity comes back to haunt them, causing them to make critical mistakes. Annie spares Armin, and finds her mercy repaid with being exposed and trapped by the military. Reiner is unable to cope with the guilt of his actions, suppressing his memories and creating a false persona in order to function. Bertolt internalizes considerable remorse and self-loathing, unable to act on his own even to prevent Reiner's SanitySlippage and when his own emotions boil over, he makes reckless mistakes that allow Eren to be rescued. Finally, Ymir fell InLoveWithTheMark, and is successfully blackmailed using her feelings for Krista]].
** Later in the story, Eren realises he's not so different from [[spoiler:Reiner, Bertolt and Annie]], going so far to telling [[spoiler:Reiner]] that they/their ideals are the same, and they're carrying out their plans/attacks for the same reasons. He doesn't entirely seem to mind, however, so long as he achieves his goal of wiping out the enemy ([[spoiler:and no, it's not titans anymore, ''as such'']]), and he's accepted that that's his role in life.
** Seems to also be the case with both [[spoiler:Eren Kruger]] and [[spoiler:Zeke Yeager]], who each claim they're [[spoiler:trying to save the Eldian people]], but have only ever been shown [[spoiler:attacking and killing Eldians (and turning them into titans, the very thing they're trying to stop) -- with no apparent guilt]]. Granted, it's hard to know if they're telling the truth (especially in the case of [[spoiler:Zeke]]), but the idea seems to be that [[spoiler:to protect the ones you love you have to become a monster and throw away your humanity in order to succeed, perhaps so that you ''don't'' feel any amount of guilt to hold you back]]. [[spoiler:Kruger]] brought up that [[spoiler:love is important in fighting your enemy, and that you mustn't forget it]], which could be referencing this trope, but it's left somewhat vague.
** Eren then becomes the harshest and possibly most painful example possible. [[spoiler: Eren began the series as a ruthless, but well meaning soldier dedicated to avenging humanity by getting rid of all the Titans. After a massive battle against his enemies, as Eren finds out in the worst way possible they aren't truly alone in the world, and the rest of the world utterly hates them for the atrocities the Eldians committed for centuries, even when Eldians were ultimately defeated and subjugated, Eren decides to fix this problem by commanding the remaining Pure Titans aka, ''the Wall Titans'' to commit mass genocide on the rest of the world.]]
* In ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'', several Ghoul Investigators are shown to have become just as sadistic and cruel as the worst Ghouls. In particular, the revenge-driven Kureo Mado takes pleasure in the suffering he inflicts on Ghouls and is responsible for some of the most vile actions within the series. When he corners the gentle Ryoko Fueguchi, he delights in showing her the weapon he has made from her murdered husband and taunts her before using it to kill her. Later on, he uses one of her arms as bait to lure in her 14-year old daughter -- this time he has weapons made from ''both'' parents, and taunts the little girl with them extensively.
** After deciding that [[PayEvilUntoEvil hurting others]] is the only way to protect the people he loves, Ken Kaneki slowly becomes just as brutal as the Ghouls he considers to be monsters. He engages in MonstrousCannibalism to increase his strength as quickly as possible, and even threatens to torture people for information on multiple occasions. It takes him [[KickTheMoralityPet nearly killing]] his friends to make him realize how far gone he is.
* Kyosuke Munakata in ''Anime/Danganronpa3TheEndOfHopesPeakHighSchool'' is obsessed with winning the war against [[ApocalypseCult Ultimate Despair]] to the point where he declares Makoto a traitor and tries to have him executed for wanting to rehabilitate them instead of killing them outright. After Makoto explains his actions [[spoiler: in ''VisualNovel/Danganronpa2GoodbyeDespair'']], Munakata declares him unworthy of the title of [[TheParagon Ultimate Hope]] and again tries to kill him on the grounds that his [[SuicidalPacifism naivete]] would lead himself and others to death and despair while [[MotiveRant ranting]] that he'd be willing to kill thousands for the sake of ending Despair.
* In ''Anime/CrossAnge'', Jill, leader of the Norma of Arzenal and [[LaResistance Libertus]], once cared deeply about her subordinates, but since the failure of the first Libertus, she had become cold, ruthless and manipulative, and only cares about killing Embryo, [[GeneralRipper and will use anyone as pawns, and keep secrets and trust nobody else]]. Ange immediately grows to distrust her, and when Jill tries likening herself to Ange (both disinherited princesses) after attempting to use her maid and closest friend as collateral to follow her plan to use everyone else as a distraction, Ange angrily rebuts her by calling her as bad as everyone they're fighting. [[spoiler:Turns out the first Libertus failed because Embryo raped Jill in both mind and body.]] Jill comes out of this after being forced into fessing up and having her leadership relinquished.
* ''Manga/VinlandSaga'': [[spoiler:Askeladd is half-Welsh, half-Norse]] and hates the destruction and loss of life the Viking Age has brought to the British Isles. In attempting to find a way to end the Viking Age, he became a viking mercenary commander and eventually took part in the Danish-Saxon War, committing atrocity upon atrocity. Unlike most examples he is fully aware that he's long since been tainted by his own deeds: When when someone who can actually build a better world asks why he didn't try himself, [[spoiler:Askeladd]] essentially responds that he was too far gone long before he had the power to change anything, [[NoPlaceForMeThere and any world he'd build would be tainted by his own evil]]. [[spoiler:Askeladd eventually dies this way, assassinating Sweyn Forkbeard before dying at [[TheWisePrince Canute]]'s hand to make sure Canute will ascend to the Danish crown and stop the bloodshed.]]
* ''Literature/GoblinSlayer'' {{discusse|dTrope}}s ''Franchise/YuGiOh'':
** In the original ''Manga/YuGiOh'',
this trope. [[DarkAndTroubledPast The titular Goblin Slayer is deeply traumatized by seeing was the reason for Kaiba's ruthlessness: he and his hometown invaded by goblins]], who [[RapePillageAndBurn tortured, raped, little brother Mokuba had been abandoned at an orphanage, and murder the whole village]] while he could only [[ForcedToWatch hide and watch in terror]]. [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge He subsequently devoted his entire life adopted by the very ruthless Gozaburo. In order to hunting survive and killing goblins]], obsessing take over finding his business, Seto adopted his adopted father's cutthroat tactics. After he loses the most efficient ways to defeat them, studying their methods Battle City tournament and biology, orders Mokuba to prematurely begin the detonation of the island, Mokuba gives him a much needed WhatTheHellHero over how he changed for the worse.
** In ''Anime/YuGiOhGX'', Judai takes revenge on the Dark World monsters for Johan's supposed death,
and doing little else. As a result, [[NoSocialSkills he's stunted psychologically and unable to form real relationships with other people]], and comes off as [[HorrifyingHero rather disturbing]] to everyone else, particularly when he uses brutal but extremely efficient methods to kill goblins. Then he [[LeaveNoSurvivors goes into their homes and kills them, all of them, leaving no survivors]]. In his own words, "to the goblins, I am the goblin." The trope is ultimately {{subverted|Trope}}, embraces the concept of being evil in order to fight evil, and then proceeds to burn entire villages to the ground, while part of him sits trapped in his own mind, muttering ItsAllMyFault. [[spoiler:It is. If he had not rushed into Brron's castle without O'Brien and Jim, everything would've turned out differently. Well, if he also failed to be so supremely focused on "I'll do absolutely anything to get my revenge, no matter who or what I have to sacrifice." anyways.]]
** Aporia is like this in ''Anime/YuGiOh5Ds''. After surviving the BadFuture where humanity was wiped out by the Meklord Emperors, he tried to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong, but barely cared about how many innocents had to die in the process, becoming
as however much he enjoys killing goblins, he never loses sight of a machine as the fact things that had caused him so much grief and using the Meklords himself in his goal.
** ''Anime/YuGiOhZEXAL'': While not obsessed with revenge, Shark was unaware that [[spoiler:the Barians he were fighting were his own people and
that he would feel ''even better'' if there is in fact their leader. In the end, he joins them]].
* In ''Manga/YuYuHakusho'', [[spoiler:Toguro's disciples
were no goblins at all killed by a demon named Kairen, who challenges him to fight in the world. He also has something that [[AlwaysChaoticEvil no goblin does]]: the ability to [[CharacterDevelopment change]].
* Akoya Seishu of ''Manga/KenganAshura'' is a police officer
Dark Tournament. Toguro fights and kills Kairen, and wishes to become a martial arts master who dedicated demon himself (his appearance when using his life demonic powers is somewhat similar to "justice" Kairen). However, this is partly due to [[MyGreatestFailure his guilt over his failure to protect his disciples]], and became a vigilante who slaughtered criminals with his bare hands. Over time he slowly became a psychotic KnightTemplar and extended his brand of "justice" to his victims' families and any rival fighters unlucky wishes for an opponent strong enough to get in his way. He beats his MoralityChain Hiyama defeat him.]]
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for not giving him the results he wants as his MissionControl, and Adam Dudley accuses him of having "Film/DirtyHarry Syndrome".
* ''Manga/MoriartyThePatriot'' has William, who was abused as a street orphan as a child, which definitely informed his lack of faith in anything resembling a justice system. So he's decided to kill abusers instead of hoping the cops will fix it.
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*''Manga/RyusPath'': Both Condor and Medor[[note]]the talking dog that Ryu encounters in front of the crystal[[/note]] note that in trying to defend his friends, Ryu has become just as violent as those who he claims to fight against. Even Ryu agrees to this.
-->'''Ryu:''' ''"Monster"....Condor said the same thing. You're right, Medor, it's true. Without realizing it, I've turned into a monster. I didn't want this...I just wanted to help my people.''
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** Shogun Kurozumi Orochi's entire character is built around this trope. [[spoiler:His whole family was persecuted by some citizens of Wano for the crimes of a few members. Even their innocents.]] So, he wanted revenge, and when he came to power, [[spoiler:he persecuted the ''entire'' country of Wano, even the innocents.]]
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* ''Literature/GoblinSlayer'' discusses this trope. The titular Goblin Slayer is deeply traumatized by seeing his hometown invaded by goblins, who tortured, raped, and murder the whole village while he could only hide and watch in terror. He subsequently devoted his entire life to hunting and killing goblins, obsessing over finding the most efficient ways to defeat them, studying their methods and biology, and doing little else. As a result, he's stunted psychologically and unable to form real relationships with other people, and comes off as [[HorrifyingHero rather disturbing]] to everyone else, particularly when he uses brutal but extremely efficient methods to kill goblins. Then he goes into their homes and kills them, all of them, leaving no survivors. In his own words, "to the goblins, I am the goblin." The trope is ultimately subverted, as however much he enjoys killing goblins, he never loses sight of the fact that he would feel ''even better'' if there were no goblins at all in the world. He also has something that no [[AlwaysChaoticEvil goblin]] does- the ability to [[CharacterDevelopment change]].

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* ''Literature/GoblinSlayer'' discusses {{discusse|dTrope}}s this trope. [[DarkAndTroubledPast The titular Goblin Slayer is deeply traumatized by seeing his hometown invaded by goblins, goblins]], who [[RapePillageAndBurn tortured, raped, and murder the whole village village]] while he could only [[ForcedToWatch hide and watch in terror. terror]]. [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge He subsequently devoted his entire life to hunting and killing goblins, goblins]], obsessing over finding the most efficient ways to defeat them, studying their methods and biology, and doing little else. As a result, [[NoSocialSkills he's stunted psychologically and unable to form real relationships with other people, people]], and comes off as [[HorrifyingHero rather disturbing]] to everyone else, particularly when he uses brutal but extremely efficient methods to kill goblins. Then he [[LeaveNoSurvivors goes into their homes and kills them, all of them, leaving no survivors.survivors]]. In his own words, "to the goblins, I am the goblin." The trope is ultimately subverted, {{subverted|Trope}}, as however much he enjoys killing goblins, he never loses sight of the fact that he would feel ''even better'' if there were no goblins at all in the world. He also has something that no [[AlwaysChaoticEvil goblin]] does- no goblin does]]: the ability to [[CharacterDevelopment change]].

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* In ''LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana'', all flame Hazes aside from the titular character have some elements of this, and it is stated that most of them became flames because they have a personal hatred of the Crimson Denizens.
** It's the clearest with Margery Daw when she is first introduced trying to kill a Denizen that she knows is not only [[spoiler:restricting his harvesting to protect the balance among {{Friendly Neighborhood Vampire}}s and humans]], but is also under Shana's protection, thus resulting in fighting someone who should be her ally.

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* In ''LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana'', ''Literature/ShakuganNoShana'', all flame Hazes aside from the titular character have some elements of this, and it is stated that most of them became flames because they have a personal hatred of the Crimson Denizens.
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Denizens. It's the clearest with Margery Daw when she is first introduced trying to kill a Denizen that she knows is not only [[spoiler:restricting his harvesting to protect the balance among {{Friendly Neighborhood Vampire}}s and humans]], but is also under Shana's protection, thus resulting in fighting someone who should be her ally.



* Even after his semi-HeelFaceTurn, Accelerator in ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'' will mercilessly kill anyone who harms innocents, or even worse, try to harm [[spoiler:Last Order or any of the Misaka clones]]. Granted, he calls himself a villain despite saving innocents, since he knows his rather violent methods are not "heroic", especially compared to Touma, the one Accelerator considers fits "the hero" type.

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* Even after his semi-HeelFaceTurn, Accelerator in ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'' ''Literature/ACertainMagicalIndex'' will mercilessly kill anyone who harms innocents, or even worse, try to harm [[spoiler:Last Order or any of the Misaka clones]]. Granted, he calls himself a villain despite saving innocents, since he knows his rather violent methods are not "heroic", especially compared to Touma, the one Accelerator considers fits "the hero" type.



* ''LightNovel/GoblinSlayer'' discusses this trope. The titular Goblin Slayer is deeply traumatized by seeing his hometown invaded by goblins, who tortured, raped, and murder the whole village while he could only hide and watch in terror. He subsequently devoted his entire life to hunting and killing goblins, obsessing over finding the most efficient ways to defeat them, studying their methods and biology, and doing little else. As a result, he's stunted psychologically and unable to form real relationships with other people, and comes off as [[HorrifyingHero rather disturbing]] to everyone else, particularly when he uses brutal but extremely efficient methods to kill goblins. Then he goes into their homes and kills them, all of them, leaving no survivors. In his own words, "to the goblins, I am the goblin." The trope is ultimately subverted, as however much he enjoys killing goblins, he never loses sight of the fact that he would feel ''even better'' if there were no goblins at all in the world. He also has something that no [[AlwaysChaoticEvil goblin]] does- the ability to [[CharacterDevelopment change]].

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* ''LightNovel/GoblinSlayer'' ''Literature/GoblinSlayer'' discusses this trope. The titular Goblin Slayer is deeply traumatized by seeing his hometown invaded by goblins, who tortured, raped, and murder the whole village while he could only hide and watch in terror. He subsequently devoted his entire life to hunting and killing goblins, obsessing over finding the most efficient ways to defeat them, studying their methods and biology, and doing little else. As a result, he's stunted psychologically and unable to form real relationships with other people, and comes off as [[HorrifyingHero rather disturbing]] to everyone else, particularly when he uses brutal but extremely efficient methods to kill goblins. Then he goes into their homes and kills them, all of them, leaving no survivors. In his own words, "to the goblins, I am the goblin." The trope is ultimately subverted, as however much he enjoys killing goblins, he never loses sight of the fact that he would feel ''even better'' if there were no goblins at all in the world. He also has something that no [[AlwaysChaoticEvil goblin]] does- the ability to [[CharacterDevelopment change]].
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* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' gives us Kaname Tousen, who joins the BigBad because he wants to seek "justice". [[spoiler:Turns out all he really wanted was revenge.]]

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* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' gives us Kaname Tousen, who joins became obsessed with justice when a friend of his was murdered by her Shinigami husband who managed to get away with the BigBad crime, even if said obsession entailed helping the Big Bad become a god and not really worrying about the countless innocent lives he was killing or planning to kill along the way. [[spoiler:It eventually transpires that the reason he turned against Soul Society was for revenge (he has previously implied it was because UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans, though this was still somewhat true), believing that forgiveness of any sort was a mockery of justice and feeling he wants was completely entitled to seek "justice". [[spoiler:Turns out take revenge on Soul Society and all he really wanted was revenge.]]of its inhabitants.]]

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* ''Franchise/DetectiveConan'' included a case at the Beika Art Museum in "The Art Museum Owner Murder Case". In the Medieval exhibit's Hell Gallery is a painting depicting [[spoiler:the gallant knight slaying the demon. The piece is described: "The Knight of Justice did indeed slay the demon, but was splattered with the evil blood and eventually turned evil himself." This painting also represents the museum curator, who kills the Owner because of his plans to close the museum.]]

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* ''Franchise/DetectiveConan'' included a case at In one of the Beika Art Museum in early cases of ''Manga/CaseClosed'', "The Art Museum Owner Murder Case". In Case", the Medieval exhibit's Hell Gallery main characters visit a the Beika Art Museum, where (of course) a murder happened to have taken place shortly before. Before the corpse is found, the characters discuss a certain painting depicting [[spoiler:the gallant showing a knight slaying covered in blood from a demon he had just slain. [[spoiler:After the demon. The piece case is described: solved, the curator gives another interpretation of the painting: "The Knight of Justice did indeed slay the demon, but was splattered with the evil blood and eventually turned evil himself." This painting is also represents used as a parallel to the museum curator, case, as the murderer, who kills considered the Owner because victim a sort of his plans to close the museum."monster", ended up becoming a monster himself.]]



* In one of the early cases of ''Manga/CaseClosed'', the main characters visit a museum, where (of course) a murder happened to have taken place shortly before. Before the corpse is found, the characters discuss a certain painting showing a knight covered in blood from a demon he had just slain. After the case is solved, the curator gives another interpretation of the painting: That, due to being covered in the demon blood, the righteous knight himself becomes a demon. This is also used as a parallel to the case, as the murderer, who considered the victim a sort of "monster", ended up becoming a monster himself.
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** Guts' Dragonslayer was originally "just" a huge sword that looked more like a slab of iron. Over the course of the series, the Dragonslayer has slain so many Apostles that it has become demonic as well.

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** Guts' Dragonslayer was originally "just" a huge sword that looked more like a slab of iron. Over the course of the series, the Dragonslayer has slain so many Apostles that it has become demonic as well.well, thus able to harm things such as ghosts that are normally incorporeal and unable to take damage from normal weapons.
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** Rob Lucci's belief in "[[KnightTemplar Dark Justice]]" makes him just as brutal and violent as the pirates he's supposed to be protecting the world from; Sanji and Franky even lampshade it after seeing Lucci [[YouHaveFailedMe brutally execute Nero for failure]], outright declaring the so-called "agent of justice" to be more evil than they are.

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** Rob Lucci's belief in "[[KnightTemplar Dark Justice]]" makes him just as brutal and violent as the pirates he's supposed to be protecting the world from; criminals he hunts; Sanji and Franky even lampshade it after seeing Lucci [[YouHaveFailedMe brutally execute Nero for failure]], outright declaring the so-called "agent of justice" to be more evil than they are.
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** Akainu in particular needs to be mentioned. His very first appearance is in a 20 year flashback where he destroys a massive ship of innocent refugees because there might, just ''might'' have been one of his targets on board. For God's sake, even ''Blackbeard'' has more empathy than this man.

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** Admiral [[spoiler:now Fleet Admiral]] Akainu in particular needs to be mentioned. His very first appearance is in a 20 year 20-year flashback where he destroys he, then a Vice-Admiral, orders the destruction of a massive ship of innocent refugees because there might, just ''might'' have been one of his targets on board. For God's sake, even ''Blackbeard'' has more empathy than this man.
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* ''Anime/DetectiveConan'' included a case at the Beika Art Museum in "The Art Museum Owner Murder Case". In the Medieval exhibit's Hell Gallery is a painting depicting [[spoiler:the gallant knight slaying the demon. The piece is described: "The Knight of Justice did indeed slay the demon, but was splattered with the evil blood and eventually turned evil himself." This painting also represents the museum curator, who kills the Owner because of his plans to close the museum.]]

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* ''Anime/DetectiveConan'' ''Franchise/DetectiveConan'' included a case at the Beika Art Museum in "The Art Museum Owner Murder Case". In the Medieval exhibit's Hell Gallery is a painting depicting [[spoiler:the gallant knight slaying the demon. The piece is described: "The Knight of Justice did indeed slay the demon, but was splattered with the evil blood and eventually turned evil himself." This painting also represents the museum curator, who kills the Owner because of his plans to close the museum.]]
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* ''Anime/DetectiveConan'' included a case at the Beika Art Museum in "The Art Museum Owner Murder Case". In the Medieval exhibit's Hell Gallery is a painting depicting [[spoiler:the gallant knight slaying the demon. The piece is described: "The Knight of Justice did indeed slay the demon, but was splattered with the evil blood and eventually turned evil himself." This painting also represents the museum curator, who kills the Owner because of his plans to close the museum.]]
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* In ''Manga/BlueExorcist'' Mephisto Johan Faust (with the German theme of him) actually does the whole quote and dedicates it to the exorcists fighting in the Kyoto saga. He addresses first to his brother Rin himself who has to resist the pulsion of his blue flames lest he might burn all of his friends but actually most of the protagonists qualify. Especially Yukio whose all character arc epitomizes this trope.

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%% How does any of this relate to turning into a monster? * In ''Manga/BlueExorcist'' Mephisto Johan Faust (with the German theme of him) actually does the whole quote and dedicates it to the exorcists fighting in the Kyoto saga. He addresses first to his brother Rin himself who has to resist the pulsion of his blue flames lest he might burn all of his friends but actually most of the protagonists qualify. Especially Yukio whose all character arc epitomizes this trope.

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