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15th Mar '17 6:41:16 PM TheJayman49
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* ''HarsherInHindsight/StevenUniverse''
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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse''
** One of the few times Steven snaps is when he yells at Lars for insulting his mom. "What do you know about my mom? ''I'' didn't even know my mom!" Fast forward to ''Rose's Scabbard'' and Pearl, in the midst of a breakdown, throws this right back at him. "What do you know? You've never even met her!" The similar wording especially makes the first instance so much harder to watch.
** "On The Run" makes many of the events regarding Amethyst much more bitter. Especially one of the jokes made in "Steven's Lion".
--->'''Pearl:''' We're really going to let him keep that [lion]?
--->'''Garnet:''' We kept Amethyst.
** In "Three Gems and a Baby", Garnet gets very upset after Steven starts crying when she unfuses. Now rewatch "Jailbreak". Ruby screams at Steven not to look at her, and one of the first things that Garnet says to Steven after refusing is "I'm sorry, we didn't want you meeting us here like this". She clearly thinks Steven was upset because she's a fusion, but in reality, Steven just had NoObjectPermanence at that age, and didn't understand where Garnet went.
** Steven is quite upset whenever something bad happens and apologizes to whoever he feels he can to for not having been able to help them, even if to an enemy. "Mindful Education" then reveals that [[spoiler: he has ''crippling survivors guilt'' to the point where he blames himself even for the things that Rose had done. To the point where he almost commits suicide by falling to his death.]] And the worst part? If Connie hadn't been there, it might have ended in a major DownerEnding...
15th Feb '17 6:00:01 AM MoonByte
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** Steven is quite upset whenever something bad happens and apologizes to whoever he feels he can to for not having been able to help them, even if to an enemy. "Mindful Education" then reveals that [[spoiler: he has ''crippling survivors guilt'' to the point where he blames himself even for the things that Rose had done. To the point where he almost commits suicide by falling to his death.]] And the worst part? If Connie hadn't been there, it might have ended in a major DownerEnding...
28th Jan '17 12:39:34 AM Anicomicgeek
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*** [[spoiler: Just try watching "Over the Edge" after ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' and season 3 of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', and knowing what was AllADream in the former is mostly reality in the latter two, as all three involve similar plot point: the daughter of a cop ends up having something bad happening to her (DCAU!Barbara/Sara Lance getting killed/''Arkham''!Barbara Gordon ends up getting kidnapped and seeming commits suicide after a dose of fear toxin), her father (DCAU and ''Arkham''!Commissioner Gordon/Quentin Lance) ends up getting pissed at someone (DCAU and ''Arkham''!Batman/Ollie and Quentin's other daughter Laurel) for keeping a secret (Barbara's double life as Batgirl and Oracle/Sara's death itself) from him and decides to cut off ties from the hero, and the hero's identity gets outed (DCAU!Gordon learning the truth from Barbara's computer/''Arkham''!Scarecrow forcing Gordon to remove Batman's mask on live TV/''Arrow''!Ra's al Ghul decided to frame the Arrow and tell Quentin Ollie's the Arrow). In "Over the Edge", the whole thing turned out to be a nightmare that Barbara had after getting dosed with Scarecrow's fear toxin; in ''Knight'', Bruce was tripping on Scarecrow's fear toxin and hallucinated a similarly-dosed Barbara committing suicide, only to learn the real Barbara was still alive, but the rest really happened; and in ''Arrow'', Ollie is saved when Roy, in part due to guilt for killing a cop due to a Mirakuru-fueled rage, decided to take the fall for Ollie and Sara would later be resurrected.]]

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*** [[spoiler: Just try watching "Over the Edge" after ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' and season 3 of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', and knowing what was AllADream in the former is mostly reality in the latter two, as all three involve similar plot point: points: the daughter of a cop ends up having something bad happening to her (DCAU!Barbara/Sara Lance getting killed/''Arkham''!Barbara Gordon ends up getting kidnapped and seeming commits suicide after a dose of fear toxin), her father (DCAU and ''Arkham''!Commissioner Gordon/Quentin Lance) ends up getting pissed at someone (DCAU and ''Arkham''!Batman/Ollie and Quentin's other daughter Laurel) for keeping a secret (Barbara's double life as Batgirl and Oracle/Sara's death itself) from him and decides to cut off ties from the hero, and the hero's identity gets outed (DCAU!Gordon learning the truth from Barbara's computer/''Arkham''!Scarecrow forcing Gordon to remove Batman's mask on live TV/''Arrow''!Ra's al Ghul decided to frame the Arrow and tell Quentin Ollie's the Arrow). In "Over the Edge", the whole thing turned out to be a nightmare that Barbara had after getting dosed with Scarecrow's fear toxin; in ''Knight'', Bruce was tripping on Scarecrow's fear toxin and hallucinated a similarly-dosed Barbara committing suicide, only to learn the real Barbara was still alive, but the rest really happened; and in ''Arrow'', Ollie is saved when Roy, in part due to guilt for killing a cop due to a Mirakuru-fueled rage, decided to take the fall for Ollie and Sara would later be resurrected.]]
26th Jan '17 5:16:20 PM Anicomicgeek
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*** [[spoiler: Just try watching "Over the Edge" after ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' and season 3 of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', and knowing what was AllADream in the former is mostly reality in the latter two, as all three involve similar plot point: the daughter of a cop ends up having something bad happening to her (DCAU!Barbara/Sara Lance getting killed/''Arkham''!Barbara Gordon ends up getting kidnapped and seeming commits suicide after a dose of fear toxin), her father (DCAU and ''Arkham''!Commissioner Gordon/Quentin Lance) ends up getting pissed at someone (DCAU and ''Arkham''!Batman/Ollie and Quentin's other daughter Laurel) for keeping a secret (Barbara's double life as Batgirl and Oracle/Sara's death itself) for him and decides to cut off ties from the hero, and the hero's identity gets outed (DCAU!Gordon learning the truth from Barbara's computer/''Arkham''!Scarecrow forcing Gordon to remove Batman's mask on live TV/''Arrow''!Ra's al Ghul decided to frame the Arrow and tell Quentin Ollie's the Arrow. In "Over the Edge", the whole thing turned out to be a nightmare that Barbara had after getting dosed with Scarecrow's fear toxin; in ''Knight'', Bruce was tripping on Scarecrow's fear toxin and hallucinated a similarly-dosed Barbara committing suicide, only to learn the real Barbara was still alive, but the rest really happened; and in ''Arrow'', Ollie is saved when Roy, in part due to guilt for killing a cop due to a Mirakuru-fueled rage, decided to take the fall for Ollie and Sara would later be resurrected.]]

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*** [[spoiler: Just try watching "Over the Edge" after ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' and season 3 of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', and knowing what was AllADream in the former is mostly reality in the latter two, as all three involve similar plot point: the daughter of a cop ends up having something bad happening to her (DCAU!Barbara/Sara Lance getting killed/''Arkham''!Barbara Gordon ends up getting kidnapped and seeming commits suicide after a dose of fear toxin), her father (DCAU and ''Arkham''!Commissioner Gordon/Quentin Lance) ends up getting pissed at someone (DCAU and ''Arkham''!Batman/Ollie and Quentin's other daughter Laurel) for keeping a secret (Barbara's double life as Batgirl and Oracle/Sara's death itself) for from him and decides to cut off ties from the hero, and the hero's identity gets outed (DCAU!Gordon learning the truth from Barbara's computer/''Arkham''!Scarecrow forcing Gordon to remove Batman's mask on live TV/''Arrow''!Ra's al Ghul decided to frame the Arrow and tell Quentin Ollie's the Arrow.Arrow). In "Over the Edge", the whole thing turned out to be a nightmare that Barbara had after getting dosed with Scarecrow's fear toxin; in ''Knight'', Bruce was tripping on Scarecrow's fear toxin and hallucinated a similarly-dosed Barbara committing suicide, only to learn the real Barbara was still alive, but the rest really happened; and in ''Arrow'', Ollie is saved when Roy, in part due to guilt for killing a cop due to a Mirakuru-fueled rage, decided to take the fall for Ollie and Sara would later be resurrected.]]
26th Jan '17 5:14:54 PM Anicomicgeek
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*** [[spoiler: Just try watching "Over the Edge" after ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'', and knowing what was AllADream in the episode is reality in the game and the GrandFinale of the ''Arkham'' series. While Barbara Gordon's death still turns out to be a hallucination[[note]]Barbara's fear being what'd come about after she died; Batman fearing he failed to save her[[/note]], the rest really happens: not only is the Scarecrow the villain, Commissioner Gordon has a WhatTheHellHero moment towards Batman after finding about Barbara's double life, Bruce Wayne is outed as Batman, and it ends with Bruce possibly dead.]]

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*** [[spoiler: Just try watching "Over the Edge" after ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'', ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' and season 3 of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', and knowing what was AllADream in the episode former is mostly reality in the game latter two, as all three involve similar plot point: the daughter of a cop ends up having something bad happening to her (DCAU!Barbara/Sara Lance getting killed/''Arkham''!Barbara Gordon ends up getting kidnapped and seeming commits suicide after a dose of fear toxin), her father (DCAU and ''Arkham''!Commissioner Gordon/Quentin Lance) ends up getting pissed at someone (DCAU and ''Arkham''!Batman/Ollie and Quentin's other daughter Laurel) for keeping a secret (Barbara's double life as Batgirl and Oracle/Sara's death itself) for him and decides to cut off ties from the hero, and the GrandFinale of hero's identity gets outed (DCAU!Gordon learning the ''Arkham'' series. While Barbara Gordon's death still turns truth from Barbara's computer/''Arkham''!Scarecrow forcing Gordon to remove Batman's mask on live TV/''Arrow''!Ra's al Ghul decided to frame the Arrow and tell Quentin Ollie's the Arrow. In "Over the Edge", the whole thing turned out to be a hallucination[[note]]Barbara's fear being what'd come about nightmare that Barbara had after she died; Batman fearing he failed getting dosed with Scarecrow's fear toxin; in ''Knight'', Bruce was tripping on Scarecrow's fear toxin and hallucinated a similarly-dosed Barbara committing suicide, only to save her[[/note]], learn the real Barbara was still alive, but the rest really happens: not only happened; and in ''Arrow'', Ollie is saved when Roy, in part due to guilt for killing a cop due to a Mirakuru-fueled rage, decided to take the Scarecrow the villain, Commissioner Gordon has a WhatTheHellHero moment towards Batman after finding about Barbara's double life, Bruce Wayne is outed as Batman, fall for Ollie and it ends with Bruce possibly dead.Sara would later be resurrected.]]
6th Jan '17 6:53:28 AM Kitch
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* In ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'', Rick Sanchez's catch-phrase is "Wubba-lubba dub dub". At the end of the first season, we find out it is not a nonsensical phrase, but rather a comprehensive sentence in the language of the Bird People: "I'm in great pain. Please help me." When did he first say it? In the episode "Meseeks and Destroy", not long after Morty was molested and nearly raped.
5th Jan '17 3:22:28 AM Siempie
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* In ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', one of the few times Steven snaps is when he yells at Lars for insulting his mom. "What do you know about my mom? I didn't even know my mom!" Fast forward to ''Rose's Scabbard'' and Pearl, in the midst of a breakdown, throws this right back at him. "What do you know? You've never even met her!" The similar wording especially makes the first instance so much harder to watch.
** "On The Run" makes many of the events regarding Amethyst much more bitter.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', one ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse''
** One
of the few times Steven snaps is when he yells at Lars for insulting his mom. "What do you know about my mom? I ''I'' didn't even know my mom!" Fast forward to ''Rose's Scabbard'' and Pearl, in the midst of a breakdown, throws this right back at him. "What do you know? You've never even met her!" The similar wording especially makes the first instance so much harder to watch.
** "On The Run" makes many of the events regarding Amethyst much more bitter. Especially one of the jokes made in "Steven's Lion".
--->'''Pearl:''' We're really going to let him keep that [lion]?
--->'''Garnet:''' We kept Amethyst.
** In "Three Gems and a Baby", Garnet gets very upset after Steven starts crying when she unfuses. Now rewatch "Jailbreak". Ruby screams at Steven not to look at her, and one of the first things that Garnet says to Steven after refusing is "I'm sorry, we didn't want you meeting us here like this". She clearly thinks Steven was upset because she's a fusion, but in reality, Steven just had NoObjectPermanence at that age, and didn't understand where Garnet went.
29th Dec '16 9:52:59 AM Andyroid
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* In the episode ''[[Recap/GravityFallsS1E2TheLegendOfTheGobblewonker The Legend of the Gobblewonker]]'' of ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', Park Ranger [=McGucket=] ignores his crazy father Fiddleford, who makes a big show to the citizens of the town that a lake monster, the Gobblewonker, had destroyed his boat. Nobody but Dipper, Mabel, and Soos believe him. When Dipper finally manages to get a picture of the Gobblewonker, Fiddleford reveals that it was just a robot he built to get the attention of his son, who had been ignoring him. This was already sad, but now that it's been revealed that Fiddleford used to be sane but slowly went crazy wiping his own memory to un-see terrifying things, which would have happened while his son was only a small child, it's worse.
** The [[FridgeHorror realization]] that Soos has UndyingLoyalty to Stan because Stan is his ParentalSubstitute for his DisappearedDad is sad enough to begin with, but now that Soos has [[BrokenPedestal had that trust and loyalty broken]] by the events of "Not What He Seems", thus being abandoned/betrayed ''again''... well, here's hoping it doesn't stick.

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* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'':
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In the episode ''[[Recap/GravityFallsS1E2TheLegendOfTheGobblewonker The Legend of the Gobblewonker]]'' of ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', , Park Ranger [=McGucket=] ignores his crazy father Fiddleford, Fiddleford "Old Man" [=McGucket=], who makes a big show to the citizens of the town that a lake monster, the Gobblewonker, had destroyed his boat. Nobody but Dipper, Mabel, and Soos believe him. When Dipper finally manages to get a picture of the Gobblewonker, Fiddleford Old Man [=McGucket=] reveals that it was just a robot he built to get the attention of his son, who had been ignoring him. This was already sad, but now that it's been in "Society of the Blind Eye" it was revealed that Fiddleford used to be sane sane, but slowly went crazy wiping his own memory to un-see terrifying things, which would have happened while his son was only a small child, it's worse.
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** The [[FridgeHorror realization]] reveal in "Blendin's Game" that Soos has such UndyingLoyalty to Stan because Stan is his ParentalSubstitute for his DisappearedDad is sad enough to begin with, but now that then Soos has [[BrokenPedestal had that trust and loyalty broken]] shaken]] by the events of "Not What He Seems", thus being abandoned/betrayed ''again''... well, here's hoping Seems". Thankfully it doesn't stick.all worked out.
** In the "Dipper's Guide to the Unexplained" episode "Stan's Tattoo", Grunkle Stan gets irrationally angry when Dipper keeps trying to catch a picture of the eponymous tattoo on Stan's right shoulder. Seems like ComicalOverreacting, until we find out in "A Tale of Two Stans" that tattoo is actually a ''burn scar'' Stan got in a fight with his brother.
26th Nov '16 10:48:44 PM Premonition45
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** "Bart to the Future", which aired in March of 2000, portrayed a future President Lisa Simpson trying to deal with the mess left behind by the worst possible President the writers could think of: Donald Trump. Lampshaded in the opening for the first episode following the 2016 election, where Bart's chalkboard writings read "Being right sucks".

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** "Bart to the Future", which aired in March of 2000, portrayed a future President Lisa Simpson trying to deal with the mess left behind by the worst possible President the writers could think of: Donald Trump. Lampshaded in the opening for of "Havana Wild Weekend", the first episode following the 2016 election, where Bart's chalkboard writings gag read "Being right sucks".
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