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25th Jul '17 2:10:17 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Dr. Hibbert's whole situation (by original design and {{Flanderization}}) of being the anti-[[Series/TheCosbyShow Cliff Huxtable]], in light of the ''RealLife'' crimes that Creator/BillCosby has done, even ''during'' the filming of said show. Especially in "On a Clear Day I Can't See My Sister", where Hibbert makes a reference to dealing a sexual harassment lawsuit.
** "Bart to the Future", which aired in March of 2000, portrayed a future President Lisa Simpson trying to deal with the mess left behind by the worst possible President the writers could think of: Donald Trump (though [[LoveItOrHateIt depending on who you voted for]] this may be in the [[HilariousInHindsight other category]]). Lampshaded in the opening of "Havana Wild Weekend", the first episode following the 2016 election, where Bart's chalkboard gag read "Being right sucks".

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** Dr. Hibbert's whole situation (by original design and {{Flanderization}}) of being the anti-[[Series/TheCosbyShow Cliff Huxtable]], in light of the ''RealLife'' crimes that Creator/BillCosby has done, been accused of, even ''during'' the filming of said show. Especially in "On a Clear Day I Can't See My Sister", where Hibbert makes a reference to dealing a sexual harassment lawsuit.
** "Bart to the Future", which aired in March of 2000, portrayed a future President Lisa Simpson trying to deal with the mess left behind by the worst possible President the writers could think of: Donald Trump UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump (though [[LoveItOrHateIt depending on who you voted for]] this may be in the [[HilariousInHindsight other category]]). Lampshaded in the opening of "Havana Wild Weekend", the first episode following the 2016 election, where Bart's chalkboard gag read "Being right sucks".
19th Jul '17 12:20:08 PM Premonition45
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** "Lisa's Wedding", the first FlashForward episode, showed Maude Flanders, Edna Krabappel, and Troy [=McClure=] alive and elderly in the distant future. Maude dies in season 11's "Alone Again, Natura-Diddly", and Edna becomes Ned's next wife in season 22, before [[TheCharacterDiedWithHer she passes away because of Marcia Wallace's real-life death in season 25's "The Man Who Grew Too Much"]]. Troy [=McClure=], and Creator/PhilHartman's other recurring role, Lionel Hutz, [[ActorExistenceLimbo both got retired from the show after season 10]] due to Hartman's real-life death.
5th Jul '17 8:51:14 AM NESBoy
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* ''HarsherInHindsight/StevenUniverse''


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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse''
** One of the few times Steven snaps is when he yells at Lars for insulting his mom. "What do you know about my mom? ''I'' didn't even know my mom!" Fast forward to ''Rose's Scabbard'' and Pearl, in the midst of a breakdown, throws this right back at him. "What do you know? You've never even met her!" The similar wording especially makes the first instance so much harder to watch.
** "On The Run" makes many of the events regarding Amethyst much more bitter. Especially one of the jokes made in "Steven's Lion".
--->'''Pearl:''' We're really going to let him keep that [lion]?\\
'''Garnet:''' We kept Amethyst.
** In "Three Gems and a Baby", Garnet gets very upset after Steven starts crying when she unfuses. Now rewatch "Jailbreak". Ruby screams at Steven not to look at her, and one of the first things that Garnet says to Steven after refusing is "I'm sorry, we didn't want you meeting us here like this". She clearly thinks Steven was upset because she's a fusion, but in reality, Steven just had NoObjectPermanence at that age, and didn't understand where Garnet went.
** Steven is quite upset whenever something bad happens and apologizes to whoever he feels he can to for not having been able to help them, even if to an enemy. "Mindful Education" then reveals that [[spoiler: he has ''crippling survivors guilt'' to the point where he blames himself even for the things that Rose had done. To the point where he almost commits suicide by falling to his death.]] And the worst part? If Connie hadn't been there, it might have ended in a major DownerEnding...
18th Jun '17 3:15:48 AM Randallw201238
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*** Which is also related to the episode where Mayor West got lymphoma intentionally rolling in toxic waste in an attempt to gain superpowers.
15th Jun '17 2:15:44 PM AFreakyDude
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** "Bart to the Future", which aired in March of 2000, portrayed a future President Lisa Simpson trying to deal with the mess left behind by the worst possible President the writers could think of: Donald Trump. Lampshaded in the opening of "Havana Wild Weekend", the first episode following the 2016 election, where Bart's chalkboard gag read "Being right sucks".

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** "Bart to the Future", which aired in March of 2000, portrayed a future President Lisa Simpson trying to deal with the mess left behind by the worst possible President the writers could think of: Donald Trump.Trump (though [[LoveItOrHateIt depending on who you voted for]] this may be in the [[HilariousInHindsight other category]]). Lampshaded in the opening of "Havana Wild Weekend", the first episode following the 2016 election, where Bart's chalkboard gag read "Being right sucks".
12th Jun '17 3:29:29 AM ArielLightning
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** On one episode in season 8, Peter is sexually harassed by his boss Angela, who later attempts to kill herself, Carrie Fisher, who was the voice of Angela died in real life on December 28, 2016, which makes the episode ever harder to watch.

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** On one episode in season 8, Peter is sexually harassed by his boss Angela, who later attempts to kill herself, herself. Carrie Fisher, who was the voice of Angela Angela, died from cardiac arrest in real life on December 28, 2016, which makes the episode ever harder to watch.watch.
** During Brian's funeral in "Life of Brian", Mayor West says that no one came to his funeral before walking off and disappearing in mid-air. Adam West would later die on June 9, 2017, from leukemia.
11th Jun '17 7:09:08 AM kris27
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**On one episode in season 8, Peter is sexually harassed by his boss Angela, who later attempts to kill herself, Carrie Fisher, who was the voice of Angela died in real life on December 28, 2016, which makes the episode ever harder to watch.
29th Apr '17 1:48:54 PM mlsmithca
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* ''HarsherInHindsight/StarWarsTheCloneWars''



** Speaking of ''The Simpsons'', it's a little unsettling watching the musical version of ''Theatre/AStreetcarNamedDesire'' where they call New Orleans "The Sodom and Gomorrah of the Mississipi" after Hurricane Katrina. Because of this, UK broadcaster Creator/ChannelFour had to make a public apology for airing the episode around the time that news of Hurricane Katrina's destruction was still fresh in everyone's mind and it has become a BannedEpisode.
*** That episode caused considerable controversy when it originally aired for that and lines like it. The following episode, "Homer the Heretic", had Bart apologise in the chalk board gag. Oddly, the song was intended as a send up to the song about London from ''Theatre/SweeneyTodd'', and two Cajun audience members were [[WhatCouldHaveBeen planned to walk out in disgust, but no one could do a Cajun accent.]]

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** Speaking of ''The Simpsons'', it's It's a little unsettling watching the musical version of ''Theatre/AStreetcarNamedDesire'' where they call New Orleans "The Sodom and Gomorrah of the Mississipi" after Hurricane Katrina. Because of this, UK broadcaster Creator/ChannelFour had to make a public apology for airing the episode around the time that news of Hurricane Katrina's destruction was still fresh in everyone's mind and it has become a BannedEpisode.
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BannedEpisode. That episode caused considerable controversy when it originally aired for that and lines like it. The following episode, "Homer the Heretic", had Bart apologise in the chalk board gag. Oddly, the song was intended as a send up to the song about London from ''Theatre/SweeneyTodd'', and two Cajun audience members were [[WhatCouldHaveBeen planned to walk out in disgust, but no one could do a Cajun accent.]]



* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'':
** In the movie, Anakin and Ahsoka rescue Jabba's child. In ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' Jabba tries to have Luke (Anakin's son) executed twice, and has Leia (Anakin's daughter) chained to him [[GoGoEnslavement in practically nothing]], which ultimately backfires when she strangles him with her chains.
** Episodes 15-18 of Season 4 are about Obi-Wan going undercover to uncover a Separatist plot against Chancellor Palpatine. On January 26th, the day before the second episode in the arc premiered, Ian Abercrombie (Palpatine's voice actor) [[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ian-abercrombie-elaine-s-boss-285386 passed away]]. Fortunately the voicework of Season 4 was already done, and so Abercrombie was able to finish voiceovers before he died.
** Remember the Father's warning to Anakin when he refused? That his selfishness would haunt him and the galaxy at large for refusing to replace the Father? Although at the time the episode was made, they probably were intending to mean the oncoming Jedi Purge, but after the revelation of Abeloth's ties to the Ones in the final book of FateOfTheJedi: Apocalypse, as well as what Abeloth did throughout that series, the Jedi Purge actually seemed not so bad in comparison. This one, at least, is no longer canon.
** "Ghosts of Mortis" has Obi-Wan confront a Dark Side-turned Anakin Skywalker in the Well of the Dark Side, a volcanic crater. One can only imagine the thoughts running through Obi-Wan's head the [[RevengeOfTheSith next time he ends up in a similar setting with Anakin]].
** In "The Deserter", Rex states that if the Republic loses the Clone Wars, then "our children and their children could be forced to live under an evil I can't well imagine". Little does Rex know, that such a fate will befall the galaxy when the Republic (or, more accurately the ''[[ForegoneConclusion Empire]]'') ''[[Film/RevengeOfTheSith wins'' the Clone Wars]], with the galaxy falling under Palpatine's control. Not helped by the fact that both the Canon and Legends timelines would turn the later victory against the Empire into a case of HappyEndingOverride.
** In "Monster", Savage Opress tells Ventress that "so long as I live, you will ''not'' harm him!", referring to his brother, Feral. Soon after, Savage was rather brutally proven right: [[ExactWords Ventress]] ''[[ExactWords didn't]]'' [[ExactWords harm Feral]]. [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Savage himself]] [[NeckSnap did]].
** Obi-Wan defeating Darth Maul in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' was, at the time, a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome. Then in the series, Maul returns, and we see [[WouldHurtAChild what he]] [[RevengeByProxy is willing]] [[MoralEventHorizon to do]] for the sake of avenging that defeat, and the original moment becomes ''very'' bittersweet.
** Ahsoka fighting a brainwashed Barriss in "Brain Invaders" becomes this after [[spoiler:the season 5 finale, where Barriss is attacking Ahsoka of her own free will.]]
** Also at the end of the episode Ahsoka wonders whether she should've killed Barriss (who in a moment of clarity, even asked her to do it) because her mercy could've potentially jeopardised the lives of many others.[[spoiler: Barriss ends up killing at least seven Jedi, at least two civilians, and injuring many others with bombing the Jedi Temple.]]
** On a similar note, Ahsoka mentioning Clone Sergeant Slick's betrayal to Barriss in the same episode also becomes this [[spoiler: when Barriss betrays the Republic and Jedi Order for [[WellIntentionedExtremist similar reasons to Slick]].]]
** Ahsoka's line in the pilot movie, "[[spoiler:I'm a Jedi Knight! Or soon will be]]." In the season 5 finale, [[spoiler:she rejects the possibility of knighthood and leaves the Jedi Order.]]
** In "Clone Cadets", Bravo Squad's line "Time to watch the Dominoes fall" becomes this when you consider [[spoiler: the [[KillEmAll ultimate fate of Domino Squad]].]] Also in the same episode and deliberately invoked at the time of making, Hevy's promise of coming back to 99 for his medal. Considering that the episode was a prequel to the Season 1 episode "Rookies", fans who've watched the episode beforehand [[DoomedByCanon know that's not going to happen]].
** A lot of the series is inevitably going to be this in light of the events of [[RevengeOfTheSith Episode 3]]. The friendships we see developing between main Jedi characters and various clones makes Order 66 all the more tragic. In ''The Clone Wars'' Anakin is also gets to be a lot more personable and likeable than the movies that are centered around his downfall which makes his friendship with Obi-Wan much more believable. This only serves to increase the tragedy of said eventual fall. Of particular note is the friendship displayed between Anakin and Mace Windu, whereas in ''Revenge of the Sith'', Mace reveals he never really trusted Anakin.
** In "Weapons Factory", Luminara tells Anakin that she is prepared to let her go of her apprentice Barriss in the event of her death, and asks if Anakin is willing to do the same with Ahsoka. Come "The Wrong Jedi", both of them are forced to let go of their apprentices for reasons that neither of them expected.
** Luminara Unduli being held prisoner by reanimated Geonosian warriors in "Legacy of Terror" becomes a lot more disturbing when you consider [[spoiler: her fate in ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels''.]]
** The opening arc of Season Two becomes much, ''much'' harsher in hindsight after Season Two, Episode Eight of ''Rebels''. Here, we see that the Inquisitors [[spoiler: kidnap helpless babies with the intent of raising them in the ways of the Dark Side]]. And this time, the Jedi Order and the Republic aren't around to stop Palpatine's plans.
** Ahsoka saves Tarkin in "Citadel Rescue" from being killed at the hands of a Separatist general. Guess what Tarkin would go on to do to Alderaan in ''Film/ANewHope''...
** A mind controlled Ahsoka fighting Anakin in "Altar of Mortis" becomes harsher after the ''Rebels'' Season 2 finale, [[spoiler: when she confronts Darth Vader]].
** Seeing R2-D2 and C-3PO run out of power and Threepio giving a eulogy-like speech to Artoo in "Nomad Droids" becomes much sadder after Kenny Baker's death.



21st Apr '17 7:11:31 PM Anicomicgeek
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*** [[spoiler: Just try watching "Over the Edge" after ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' and season 3 of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', and knowing what was AllADream in the former is mostly reality in the latter two, as all three involve similar plot points: the daughter of a cop ends up having something bad happening to her (DCAU!Barbara/Sara Lance getting killed/''Arkham''!Barbara Gordon ends up getting kidnapped and seeming commits suicide after a dose of fear toxin), her father (DCAU and ''Arkham''!Commissioner Gordon/Quentin Lance) ends up getting pissed at someone (DCAU and ''Arkham''!Batman/Ollie and Quentin's other daughter Laurel) for keeping a secret (Barbara's double life as Batgirl and Oracle/Sara's death itself) from him and decides to cut off ties from the hero, and the hero's identity gets outed (DCAU!Gordon learning the truth from Barbara's computer/''Arkham''!Scarecrow forcing Gordon to remove Batman's mask on live TV/''Arrow''!Ra's al Ghul decided to frame the Arrow and tell Quentin Ollie's the Arrow). In "Over the Edge", the whole thing turned out to be a nightmare that Barbara had after getting dosed with Scarecrow's fear toxin; in ''Knight'', Bruce was tripping on Scarecrow's fear toxin and hallucinated a similarly-dosed Barbara committing suicide, only to learn the real Barbara was still alive, but the rest really happened; and in ''Arrow'', Ollie is saved when Roy, in part due to guilt for killing a cop due to a Mirakuru-fueled rage, decided to take the fall for Ollie and Sara would later be resurrected. But perhaps the worse thing isn't from an AlternateContinuity, but from SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'', as the episode [[Recap/BatmanBeyondS2E14Eyewitness "Eyewitness"]], which sees Barbara herself getting tricked into thinking Terry killed Mad Stan by Spellbinder and go to the very lengths she feared her father would go.]]

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*** [[spoiler: Just try watching "Over the Edge" after ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' and season 3 of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', and knowing what was AllADream in the former is mostly reality in the latter two, as all three involve similar plot points: the daughter of a cop ends up having something bad happening to her (DCAU!Barbara/Sara Lance getting killed/''Arkham''!Barbara Gordon ends up getting kidnapped and seeming commits suicide after a dose of fear toxin), her father (DCAU and ''Arkham''!Commissioner Gordon/Quentin Lance) ends up getting pissed at someone (DCAU and ''Arkham''!Batman/Ollie and Quentin's other daughter Laurel) for keeping a secret (Barbara's double life as Batgirl and Oracle/Sara's death itself) from him and decides to cut off ties from the hero, and the hero's identity gets outed (DCAU!Gordon learning the truth from Barbara's computer/''Arkham''!Scarecrow forcing Gordon to remove Batman's mask on live TV/''Arrow''!Ra's al Ghul decided to frame the Arrow and tell Quentin Ollie's the Arrow). In "Over the Edge", the whole thing turned out to be a nightmare that Barbara had after getting dosed with Scarecrow's fear toxin; in ''Knight'', Bruce was tripping on Scarecrow's fear toxin and hallucinated a similarly-dosed Barbara committing suicide, only to learn the real Barbara was still alive, but the rest really happened; and in ''Arrow'', Ollie is saved when Roy, in part due to guilt for killing a cop due to a Mirakuru-fueled rage, decided to take the fall for Ollie and Sara would later be resurrected. But perhaps the worse thing isn't from an AlternateContinuity, but from SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'', as the episode [[Recap/BatmanBeyondS2E14Eyewitness "Eyewitness"]], which "Eyewitness"]] sees Barbara herself getting tricked into thinking Terry killed Mad Stan by Spellbinder and go to the very lengths she feared her father would go.go before Terry cleared his name.]]
21st Apr '17 7:09:23 PM Anicomicgeek
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*** [[spoiler: Just try watching "Over the Edge" after ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' and season 3 of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', and knowing what was AllADream in the former is mostly reality in the latter two, as all three involve similar plot points: the daughter of a cop ends up having something bad happening to her (DCAU!Barbara/Sara Lance getting killed/''Arkham''!Barbara Gordon ends up getting kidnapped and seeming commits suicide after a dose of fear toxin), her father (DCAU and ''Arkham''!Commissioner Gordon/Quentin Lance) ends up getting pissed at someone (DCAU and ''Arkham''!Batman/Ollie and Quentin's other daughter Laurel) for keeping a secret (Barbara's double life as Batgirl and Oracle/Sara's death itself) from him and decides to cut off ties from the hero, and the hero's identity gets outed (DCAU!Gordon learning the truth from Barbara's computer/''Arkham''!Scarecrow forcing Gordon to remove Batman's mask on live TV/''Arrow''!Ra's al Ghul decided to frame the Arrow and tell Quentin Ollie's the Arrow). In "Over the Edge", the whole thing turned out to be a nightmare that Barbara had after getting dosed with Scarecrow's fear toxin; in ''Knight'', Bruce was tripping on Scarecrow's fear toxin and hallucinated a similarly-dosed Barbara committing suicide, only to learn the real Barbara was still alive, but the rest really happened; and in ''Arrow'', Ollie is saved when Roy, in part due to guilt for killing a cop due to a Mirakuru-fueled rage, decided to take the fall for Ollie and Sara would later be resurrected. But perhaps the worse thing isn't from an AlternateContinuity, but from SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'', as the episode [[Recap/BatmanBeyondS2E14Eyewitness "Eyewitness"]], which sees Barbara herself getting tricked into thinking Terry killed Mad Stan by Spellbinder and go to the very lengths she feared her father would go.]]

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*** [[spoiler: Just try watching "Over the Edge" after ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' and season 3 of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', and knowing what was AllADream in the former is mostly reality in the latter two, as all three involve similar plot points: the daughter of a cop ends up having something bad happening to her (DCAU!Barbara/Sara Lance getting killed/''Arkham''!Barbara Gordon ends up getting kidnapped and seeming commits suicide after a dose of fear toxin), her father (DCAU and ''Arkham''!Commissioner Gordon/Quentin Lance) ends up getting pissed at someone (DCAU and ''Arkham''!Batman/Ollie and Quentin's other daughter Laurel) for keeping a secret (Barbara's double life as Batgirl and Oracle/Sara's death itself) from him and decides to cut off ties from the hero, and the hero's identity gets outed (DCAU!Gordon learning the truth from Barbara's computer/''Arkham''!Scarecrow forcing Gordon to remove Batman's mask on live TV/''Arrow''!Ra's al Ghul decided to frame the Arrow and tell Quentin Ollie's the Arrow). In "Over the Edge", the whole thing turned out to be a nightmare that Barbara had after getting dosed with Scarecrow's fear toxin; in ''Knight'', Bruce was tripping on Scarecrow's fear toxin and hallucinated a similarly-dosed Barbara committing suicide, only to learn the real Barbara was still alive, but the rest really happened; and in ''Arrow'', Ollie is saved when Roy, in part due to guilt for killing a cop due to a Mirakuru-fueled rage, decided to take the fall for Ollie and Sara would later be resurrected. But perhaps the worse thing isn't from an AlternateContinuity, but from SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'', as the episode [[Recap/BatmanBeyondS2E14Eyewitness "Eyewitness"]], which sees Barbara herself getting tricked into thinking Terry killed Mad Stan by Spellbinder and go to the very lengths she feared her father would go.]]
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