History GenreSavvy / Literature

29th Jul '16 6:28:07 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Literature/TheLangoliers'': Subverted. As a mystery writer, Bob Jenkins provides a plausible analysis to Albert to explain how they all ended up on a seemingly abandoned plane in mid-flight by pitching a conspiracy scenario about a black ops social experiment. When Albert suggests that they take over the plane, Jenkins admits out that his scenario can only explain why the plane is abandoned, not why there's no apparent sign of life on the ground either. He points out that they're not dealing with mystery, but a different genre: science fiction.

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* ''Literature/TheLangoliers'': Subverted. As a mystery writer, Bob Jenkins provides a plausible analysis to Albert to explain how they all ended up on a seemingly abandoned plane in mid-flight by pitching a conspiracy scenario about a black ops social experiment. When Albert suggests that they take over the plane, Jenkins admits out that his scenario can only explain why the plane is abandoned, not why there's no apparent sign of life on the ground either. He points out that they're not dealing with mystery, [[WrongGenreSavvy but a different genre: genre]]: science fiction.
21st Jul '16 10:04:39 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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%%* ''Literature/EnchantedForestChronicles'': The character known only as the Stone Prince from "Dealing with Dragons" is this. On a quest to gain healing water for a king? Knows that since the king's two elder sons have tried and failed, [[YoungestChildWins the youngest is the one meant to succeed.]] Takes the [[SchmuckBait gold and jeweled dipper for said water instead of the plain tin one]], and subsequently begins [[TakenForGranite turning to stone?]] Sticks his arm in the spring of healing water; it doesn't stop him from turning entirely to stone, but he can still move and talk. Confronted with the BigBad and armed with [[KillItWithWater a bucket of soapy water that's capable of melting wizards,]] but with their witch ally Morwen in the way? Throws the water anyway, correctly assuming from seeing [[NeatFreak Morwen's spotless house]] that soapsuds wouldn't melt her.
21st Jul '16 10:02:08 AM Morgenthaler
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* The online blogiform novel ''[[http://toothycat.net/~hologram/UltimateDream/ Ultimate Dream]]'' is pretty much defined by its GenreSavvy DeadpanSnarker narrator, who relentlessly mocks the cliched RolePlayingGame of the title, which plays like a catalogue of Website/TheGrandListOfConsoleRolePlayingGameCliches. She continues mocking the clichés even after she and her friends get [[TrappedInTVLand sucked into the gameworld]]. The subsequent discussions with the game characters attempts, in several cases, to [[JustifiedTrope justify]] several of the cliches. The BigBad is DangerouslyGenreSavvy, while TheManBehindTheMan is [[ContractualGenreBlindness aware of the genre's limitations]] and indeed tries to enforce them.

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* The online blogiform novel ''[[http://toothycat.net/~hologram/UltimateDream/ Ultimate Dream]]'' is pretty much defined by its GenreSavvy DeadpanSnarker narrator, who relentlessly mocks the cliched RolePlayingGame of the title, which plays like a catalogue of Website/TheGrandListOfConsoleRolePlayingGameCliches. She continues mocking the clichés even after she and her friends get [[TrappedInTVLand sucked into the gameworld]]. The subsequent discussions with the game characters attempts, in several cases, to [[JustifiedTrope justify]] several of the cliches. The BigBad is DangerouslyGenreSavvy, Genre Savvy, while TheManBehindTheMan is [[ContractualGenreBlindness aware of the genre's limitations]] and indeed tries to enforce them.



* The whole point of Creator/CharlesStross's ''[[Literature/TheLaundrySeries The Jennifer Morgue]]''. The villain, a DangerouslyGenreSavvy billionaire trying to take over the world, recognizes he's a living trope and creates a EvilPlan by creating a magic spell that turns everything around him into a Literature/JamesBond adventure, so that only a British agent conforming to the Bond stereotype would be in a position to stop him and save the world last the last moment. The plan is to then end the spell, making the agent an ordinary person again and so easily contained and killed, with no one else able to get there in time. Unfortunately for him, the British are even more GenreSavvy [[spoiler:when the agent they send isn't really the Hero, he's the Bond Babe, acting as an initially oblivious decoy for his girlfriend who is the real Hero sweeping in at the last minute with commandos to save the day]].

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* The whole point of Creator/CharlesStross's ''[[Literature/TheLaundrySeries The Jennifer Morgue]]''. The villain, a DangerouslyGenreSavvy Genre Savvy billionaire trying to take over the world, recognizes he's a living trope and creates a EvilPlan by creating a magic spell that turns everything around him into a Literature/JamesBond adventure, so that only a British agent conforming to the Bond stereotype would be in a position to stop him and save the world last the last moment. The plan is to then end the spell, making the agent an ordinary person again and so easily contained and killed, with no one else able to get there in time. Unfortunately for him, the British are even more GenreSavvy [[spoiler:when the agent they send isn't really the Hero, he's the Bond Babe, acting as an initially oblivious decoy for his girlfriend who is the real Hero sweeping in at the last minute with commandos to save the day]].
9th Jul '16 5:49:40 AM HighCrate
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* ''Literature/EnchantedForestChronicles'': The character known only as the Stone Prince from "Dealing with Dragons" is this. On a quest to gain healing water for a king? Knows that since the king's two elder sons have tried and failed, [[YoungestChildWins the youngest is the one meant to succeed.]] Takes the [[SchmuckBait gold and jeweled dipper for said water instead of the plain tin one]], and subsequently begins [[TakenForGranite turning to stone?]] Sticks his arm in the spring of healing water; it doesn't stop him from turning entirely to stone, but he can still move and talk. Confronted with the BigBad and armed with [[KillItWithWater a bucket of soapy water that's capable of melting wizards,]] but with their witch ally Morwen in the way? Throws the water anyway, correctly assuming from seeing [[NeatFreak Morwen's spotless house]] that soapsuds wouldn't melt her.

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* %%* ''Literature/EnchantedForestChronicles'': The character known only as the Stone Prince from "Dealing with Dragons" is this. On a quest to gain healing water for a king? Knows that since the king's two elder sons have tried and failed, [[YoungestChildWins the youngest is the one meant to succeed.]] Takes the [[SchmuckBait gold and jeweled dipper for said water instead of the plain tin one]], and subsequently begins [[TakenForGranite turning to stone?]] Sticks his arm in the spring of healing water; it doesn't stop him from turning entirely to stone, but he can still move and talk. Confronted with the BigBad and armed with [[KillItWithWater a bucket of soapy water that's capable of melting wizards,]] but with their witch ally Morwen in the way? Throws the water anyway, correctly assuming from seeing [[NeatFreak Morwen's spotless house]] that soapsuds wouldn't melt her.
9th Jul '16 1:07:26 AM Mitis
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* ''Literature/EnchantedForestChronicles'': The character known only as the Stone Prince from "Dealing with Dragons" is this. On a quest to gain healing water for a king? Knows that since the king's two elder sons have tried and failed, [[YoungestChildWins the youngest is the one meant to succeed.]] Takes the [[SchmuckBait gold and jeweled dipper for said water instead of the plain tin one]], and subsequently begins [[TakenForGranite turning to stone?]] Sticks his arm in the spring of healing water; it doesn't stop him from turning entirely to stone, but he can still move and talk. Confronted with the BigBad and armed with [[KillItWithWater a bucket of soapy water that's capable of melting wizards,]] but with their witch ally Morwen in the way? Throws the water anyway, correctly assuming from seeing [[NeatFreak Morwen's spotless house]] that soapsuds wouldn't melt her.
15th Jun '16 10:17:27 PM PaulA
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* Although the title character of Christie's ''Literature/ParkerPyneInvestigates'' eventually turned into another AmateurSleuth, his first few appearances presented him as a consultant who boasts that he has discovered the underlying principles of human nature and can solve any kind of unhappiness -- for, of course, a suitable fee. In practice, his "underlying principles of human nature" seem to be a form of genre savvy, as these stories are all genre parodies, with Parker Pyne identifying what genre his client belongs in and then invoking the appropriate tropes to give them a happy ending. It's never stated that baldly in the stories themselves, although "The Case of the Discontented Soldier" has a conversation with Ariadne Oliver where he wonders if they're laying on the adventure clichés too thick and she assures him that the clichés serve to unconsciously reassure the clients because events are proceeding as fiction has taught them to expect.
15th Jun '16 9:33:32 PM PaulA
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* Similarly, most Creator/AgathaChristie books contain at least one line where a character exclaims that "It's just like a detective novel!" and several suspects in various mysteries show nervousness because they're the least likely character to do it and hence, if it were a mystery novel, the one most likely to be fingered. Sometimes it's true, sometimes it isn't. In the short story [[spoiler:"[[Literature/TheMysteriousMrQuin At the Crossroads]]"]] consciously invokes a number of familiar mystery fiction tropes in an attempt to be regarded as that suspect who looks really guilty but you know didn't actually do it.

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* Similarly, most Creator/AgathaChristie books contain at least one line where a character exclaims that "It's just like a detective novel!" and several suspects in various mysteries show nervousness because they're the least likely character to do it and hence, if it were a mystery novel, the one most likely to be fingered. Sometimes it's true, sometimes it isn't. In the short story [[spoiler:"[[Literature/TheMysteriousMrQuin "[[spoiler:[[Literature/TheMysteriousMrQuin At the Crossroads]]"]] Crossroads]]]]" the murderer consciously invokes a number of familiar mystery fiction tropes in an attempt to be regarded as that suspect who looks really guilty but you know didn't actually do it.
15th Jun '16 9:33:09 PM PaulA
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* Similarly, most Creator/AgathaChristie books contain at least one line where a character exclaims that "It's just like a detective novel!" and several suspects in various mysteries show nervousness because they're the least likely character to do it and hence, if it were a mystery novel, the one most likely to be fingered. Sometimes it's true, sometimes it isn't.

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* Similarly, most Creator/AgathaChristie books contain at least one line where a character exclaims that "It's just like a detective novel!" and several suspects in various mysteries show nervousness because they're the least likely character to do it and hence, if it were a mystery novel, the one most likely to be fingered. Sometimes it's true, sometimes it isn't. In the short story [[spoiler:"[[Literature/TheMysteriousMrQuin At the Crossroads]]"]] consciously invokes a number of familiar mystery fiction tropes in an attempt to be regarded as that suspect who looks really guilty but you know didn't actually do it.
11th Jun '16 6:35:47 PM nombretomado
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* In book two of TanyaHuff's ''Literature/SmokeAndShadows'' trilogy, the production team and main cast of a VampireDetectiveSeries are trapped in a HauntedHouse while filming an episode about a haunted house. A large part of their defenses are ripped off from ''Series/{{Charmed}}'' or ''Series/TheXFiles'', and much of the dialogue consists of witty observations -- and creative criticism -- of their predicament, and blatant self mockery of ShowWithinAShow ''Darkest Night''.

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* In book two of TanyaHuff's Creator/TanyaHuff's ''Literature/SmokeAndShadows'' trilogy, the production team and main cast of a VampireDetectiveSeries are trapped in a HauntedHouse while filming an episode about a haunted house. A large part of their defenses are ripped off from ''Series/{{Charmed}}'' or ''Series/TheXFiles'', and much of the dialogue consists of witty observations -- and creative criticism -- of their predicament, and blatant self mockery of ShowWithinAShow ''Darkest Night''.
15th May '16 6:42:00 PM WillBGood
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* In Creator/PGWodehouse's ''Jill the Reckless'', Mrs. Barker notes that having problems getting married is just like in the True Hearts Novelette series. Barker has to explain to her that even though they have [[UnableToSupportAWife enough money]], MyBelovedSmother will persuade Derek to give it up.
* In Creator/PGWodehouse's ''Hot Water'', Medway, the lady's maid, speaks of how the book she's reading has a detective in disguise as a maid, causing much consternation among characters to plan to crack a safe. [[spoiler:Actually, she's the criminal, out to crack the safe herself.]]

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* Creator/PGWodehouse:
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In Creator/PGWodehouse's ''Jill the Reckless'', Mrs. Barker notes that having problems getting married is just like in the True Hearts Novelette series. Barker has to explain to her that even though they have [[UnableToSupportAWife enough money]], MyBelovedSmother will persuade Derek to give it up.
* ** In Creator/PGWodehouse's ''Hot Water'', Medway, the lady's maid, speaks of how the book she's reading has a detective in disguise as a maid, causing much consternation among characters to plan to crack a safe. [[spoiler:Actually, she's the criminal, out to crack the safe herself.]]
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