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16th Jan '18 4:30:49 AM Cryoclaste
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* The WorldOfWarcraft card game is generally balanced, but in the Throne block (set 6), Horde faction has several cards which are significantly overpowered even for their rarity:

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* The WorldOfWarcraft ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' card game is generally balanced, but in the Throne block (set 6), Horde faction has several cards which are significantly overpowered even for their rarity:
22nd Dec '17 1:43:53 AM jormis29
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* The [[MatterReplicator Aqueduct]] in ''SettlersOfCatan'''': Cities & Knights'' is a potential game breaker. It allows a player to draw ''any'' resource they choose if they receive no production on a turn. If a player only has a few numbers to draw from, the Aqueduct is even ''better'', because it allows the player to take advantage of many custom draws, charging for whatever item they wish to build. Combined with a 2:1 port, a player can gun for commodities too, further increasing their advantage. This is taken UpToEleven when a specific resource in the game is [[BrokeEpisode extremely scarce]], because the player with the Aqueduct may be one of the only ones who can get it easily.

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* The [[MatterReplicator Aqueduct]] in ''SettlersOfCatan'''': ''TabletopGame/SettlersOfCatan'''': Cities & Knights'' is a potential game breaker. It allows a player to draw ''any'' resource they choose if they receive no production on a turn. If a player only has a few numbers to draw from, the Aqueduct is even ''better'', because it allows the player to take advantage of many custom draws, charging for whatever item they wish to build. Combined with a 2:1 port, a player can gun for commodities too, further increasing their advantage. This is taken UpToEleven when a specific resource in the game is [[BrokeEpisode extremely scarce]], because the player with the Aqueduct may be one of the only ones who can get it easily.



** A later game from the same manufacturers, LegendOfTheBurningSands, was completely broken out of the box; this was eventually explained by the fact that it included a bunch of cards copied from ''TabletopGame/LegendOfTheFiveRings'' without paying attention to how they worked in the new system. The huge breaker? Blacksmith, a card that gave a +2 strength to any character. In Five Rings, where fights were determined by comparing the total Strength on each side, this was a reasonable advantage; but in Burning Sands, where a unit with higher strength was immune from any unit with lower Strength, it was utterly overwhelming and the game boiled down to rushing out djinni armed with swords as quickly as possible. The game died shortly afterwards.

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** A later game from the same manufacturers, LegendOfTheBurningSands, ''TabletopGame/LegendOfTheBurningSands'', was completely broken out of the box; this was eventually explained by the fact that it included a bunch of cards copied from ''TabletopGame/LegendOfTheFiveRings'' without paying attention to how they worked in the new system. The huge breaker? Blacksmith, a card that gave a +2 strength to any character. In Five Rings, where fights were determined by comparing the total Strength on each side, this was a reasonable advantage; but in Burning Sands, where a unit with higher strength was immune from any unit with lower Strength, it was utterly overwhelming and the game boiled down to rushing out djinni armed with swords as quickly as possible. The game died shortly afterwards.



* The StarWarsCustomizableCardGame had several such cards that broke game mechanics and/or trivialized most games:

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* The StarWarsCustomizableCardGame ''TabletopGame/StarWarsCustomizableCardGame'' had several such cards that broke game mechanics and/or trivialized most games:



* The StarTrekCollectibleCardGame featured in its first edition the "Telepathic Alien Kidnappers" which allow its player to point at a random card in his opponent's hand and guess the type. If the type is guessed correctly, the card is discarded. Because the rules state that all players draw a new card at the END of their turn, the owner of the kidnappers can guess "personnel" at every guess. Since the player rapidly runs out of cards and usually only has ONE card in their hand, this locks out any new personnel cards from being played as they systematically get discarded. Game over.

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* The StarTrekCollectibleCardGame ''TabletopGame/StarTrekCollectibleCardGame'' featured in its first edition the "Telepathic Alien Kidnappers" which allow its player to point at a random card in his opponent's hand and guess the type. If the type is guessed correctly, the card is discarded. Because the rules state that all players draw a new card at the END of their turn, the owner of the kidnappers can guess "personnel" at every guess. Since the player rapidly runs out of cards and usually only has ONE card in their hand, this locks out any new personnel cards from being played as they systematically get discarded. Game over.
21st Nov '17 3:56:38 PM CaptainReynolds6
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* [[TabletopGame/IronKingdoms Warmachine/Hordes]] is generally considered a fairly balanced game. However, most armies in the Mark II edition had at least one example of a Warcasters or Warlock who handily broke the game.

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* [[TabletopGame/IronKingdoms Warmachine/Hordes]] is generally considered a fairly balanced game. However, most armies in the Mark II edition had at least one example of a Warcasters Warcaster or Warlock who handily broke the game.
21st Nov '17 3:56:13 PM CaptainReynolds6
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* [[TabletopGame/IronKingdoms Warmachine/Hordes]] is generally considered a fairly balanced game, however most armies provide examples of Warcasters and Warlocks that handily break the game.

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* [[TabletopGame/IronKingdoms Warmachine/Hordes]] is generally considered a fairly balanced game, however game. However, most armies provide examples in the Mark II edition had at least one example of a Warcasters and Warlocks that or Warlock who handily break broke the game.
11th Aug '17 12:25:13 AM AgentSalt
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** Monte Cook ''[[CreatorsPet really]]'' [[CreatorsPet likes Wizards]], and in 5E, boy does it show. LinearWarriorQuadraticWizards applies, and while a low-level Wizard with paltry HP and a limited spell selection can be a challenging play, by mid-level Wizards with creative players are effectively [[StoryBreakerPower walking cheat codes]]. By high levels, the party has effectively been relegated to the role of audience for the Wizard while they {{Curb Stomp|Battle}} {{Physical God}}s.

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** Monte Cook ''[[CreatorsPet really]]'' [[CreatorsPet likes Wizards]], and in 5E, boy does it show. LinearWarriorQuadraticWizards LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards applies, and while a low-level Wizard with paltry HP and a limited spell selection can be a challenging play, by mid-level Wizards with creative players are effectively [[StoryBreakerPower walking cheat codes]]. By high levels, the party has effectively been relegated to the role of audience for the Wizard while they {{Curb Stomp|Battle}} {{Physical God}}s.
2nd Jul '17 2:33:52 AM Piterpicher
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* The Reindeer Booster Pack in {{Sopio}} whose effects include discarding the entire deck, adding all discarded cards to your hand immediately and ''instantly winning the game for you if played when you are the current leader''. This is more or less the entire point of the pack.

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* The Reindeer Booster Pack in {{Sopio}} ''TabletopGame/{{Sopio}}'' whose effects include discarding the entire deck, adding all discarded cards to your hand immediately and ''instantly winning the game for you if played when you are the current leader''. This is more or less the entire point of the pack.
26th Feb '17 10:04:15 PM flamemario12
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** Lysandre's Trump Card from the Phantom Forces set allows all the player to shuffle all cards in their discard pile into their deck, as it would eliminate the possibility of a player running out of cards in their deck, a victory condition for the other player and increased the length of battle significantly. Needless to say, Lysandre's Trump Card became one of the very few cards to be banned.
** One of the most broken strategies possible is to use two cards in tandem: Darkrai Lv. X and a certain Shiftry. Darkrai had one attack that made the strategy work, which put the defending Pokemon to sleep. However, unlike normal sleep, there were two coins flipped, and if both were tails, the Pokemon fainted (both had to be heads for the Pokemon to wake up.). Shiftry's pokebody made it so that all coins flipped were treated as tails.

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** Lysandre's Trump Card from the Phantom Forces set allows all the player to shuffle all cards in their discard pile into their deck, as it would eliminate the possibility of a player running out of cards in their deck, a victory condition for the other player and increased the length of battle significantly. Needless to say, Lysandre's Trump Card became is one of the very few cards to be banned.
banned as it basically allows the player to quickly draw through their deck without any negative effects and increased the length of battles significantly.
** One of the most broken strategies possible is to use two cards in tandem: Darkrai Lv. X and a certain Shiftry. Darkrai had one attack that made the strategy work, which put the defending Pokemon to sleep. However, unlike normal sleep, there were two coins flipped, and if both were tails, the Pokemon fainted (both had to be heads for the Pokemon to wake up.). Shiftry's pokebody Poke body made it so that all coins flipped were treated as tails.



*** Prior to 8th edition, which was designed to {{nerf}} them, daemons were arguably the most broken army ever released in the game's history. EVERYTHING in the army had at least 5+ ward save and caused fear (Lord units causing terror). This basically meant the enemy was, unless it was Tomb Kings or Vampire Counts who all have immune to pyschology, going to spend most of the game running scared. The rare case your enemy doesn't run, he's dead anyways, since the magic the army can throw around will wreck, the worst case being an utterly broken spell that a Lord of Change has access to called Glean Magic that causes you force a target enemy wizard to use ALL their spells on targets you chose, and they can't be dispelled, and the icing on the cake being that Glean Magic was incredibly cheap, especially for what it does. And that's not even getting to how all the units in the army were incredibly strong and the only things that wouldn't being running away due to fear or terror will get torn to pieces in melee. There's a reason the 8th edition nerfed this army and why it was so hated for how overpowered it was.

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*** ** Prior to 8th edition, which was designed to {{nerf}} them, daemons were arguably the most broken army ever released in the game's history. EVERYTHING in the army had at least 5+ ward save and caused fear (Lord units causing terror). This basically meant the enemy was, unless it was Tomb Kings or Vampire Counts who all have immune to pyschology, going to spend most of the game running scared. The rare case your enemy doesn't run, he's dead anyways, since the magic the army can throw around will wreck, the worst case being an utterly broken spell that a Lord of Change has access to called Glean Magic that causes you force a target enemy wizard to use ALL their spells on targets you chose, and they can't be dispelled, and the icing on the cake being that Glean Magic was incredibly cheap, especially for what it does. And that's not even getting to how all the units in the army were incredibly strong and the only things that wouldn't being running away due to fear or terror will get torn to pieces in melee. There's a reason the 8th edition nerfed this army and why it was so hated for how overpowered it was.
26th Feb '17 6:55:40 AM flamemario12
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** Lysandre's Trump Card from the Phantom Forces set allows all the player to shuffle all cards in their discard pile into their deck, as it would eliminate the possibility of a player running out of cards in their deck, a victory condition for the other player and increased the length of battle significantly. Needless to say, Lysandre's Trump Card became one of the very few card to be banned.

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** Lysandre's Trump Card from the Phantom Forces set allows all the player to shuffle all cards in their discard pile into their deck, as it would eliminate the possibility of a player running out of cards in their deck, a victory condition for the other player and increased the length of battle significantly. Needless to say, Lysandre's Trump Card became one of the very few card cards to be banned.
26th Feb '17 6:47:54 AM flamemario12
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* From [[TabletopGame/{{Pokemon}} Pokémon]]'' trading card game:

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* From [[TabletopGame/{{Pokemon}} The ''[[TabletopGame/{{Pokemon}} Pokémon]]'' trading card game:


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** Lysandre's Trump Card from the Phantom Forces set allows all the player to shuffle all cards in their discard pile into their deck, as it would eliminate the possibility of a player running out of cards in their deck, a victory condition for the other player and increased the length of battle significantly. Needless to say, Lysandre's Trump Card became one of the very few card to be banned.
26th Feb '17 6:39:23 AM flamemario12
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* The ''[[TabletopGame/{{Pokemon}} Pokémon]]'' trading card game has had few cards so broken they were banned (most banned cards are gag cards that were intended simply to be promotional giveaways), but there were two notable examples; Slowking and Sneasel from the Neo Genesis set. Slowking had a Pokémon Power that allowed its user to flip a coin whenever the opponent played a Trainer card, and if that coin was heads, the Trainer card would return to the user's deck without affecting the game. In the Japanese version of the game, this Power could only be used while Slowking was active. When the card was translated to English, however, it was translated incorrectly. The English version of the card not only allowed its owner to use the Power while Slowking was benched, but the power was cumulative, meaning players could flip a coin for each Slowking they had in play every time their opponent played a Trainer card, and if even one were heads, that card would have no effect. While the Japanese version of the card was barely playable (Slowking was not a good attacker, and was easily KO'ed when active), the English version was exceedingly powerful because a player could place one or more Slowking on the bench, prevent the opponent from playing any Trainer cards, and still play a stronger Pokémon as the active Pokémon, which basically shut down the opponent's deck forever. Sneasel was simply banned because it was too powerful offensively; by the second turn of the game, its Beat Up attack allowed the user to flip up to six coins (one for each benched Pokemon and one for Sneasel), netting 20 damage per heads, and + 20 more damage due to the two Darkness energies that were on Sneasel in order to use the attack. Along with broken trainers like Computer Search and Professor Oak, this was easy to accomplish, and from the second turn on it was easy to AVERAGE 80 damage per turn; considering the maximum HP for any Pokemon was 120 at the time (and 120 was a rare trait, the average for a fully evolved Pokemon was about 80-90), it's easy to see why this was banned; you simply didn't win if you didn't play your own Sneasel deck. These bans were effectively lifted once the set was rotated out of the Modified format (since you could only play them in the Unlimited format then), with only two other cards being banned since, First Ticket due to a rule change, and Lysandre's Trump Card, because the recycling ability it had disabled one way to win.

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* The ''[[TabletopGame/{{Pokemon}} From [[TabletopGame/{{Pokemon}} Pokémon]]'' trading card game has had few cards so broken they were banned (most banned cards are gag cards that were intended simply to be promotional giveaways), but there were two notable examples; game:
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Slowking and Sneasel from the Neo Genesis set. Slowking set had a Pokémon Power that allowed its user to flip a coin whenever the opponent played a Trainer card, and if that coin was heads, the Trainer card would return to the user's deck without affecting the game. In the Japanese version of the game, this Power could only be used while Slowking was active. When the card was translated to English, however, it was translated incorrectly. The English version of the card not only allowed its owner to use the Power while Slowking was benched, but the power was cumulative, meaning players could flip a coin for each Slowking they had in play every time their opponent played a Trainer card, and if even one were heads, that card would have no effect. While the Japanese version of the card was barely playable (Slowking was not a good attacker, and was easily KO'ed when active), the English version was exceedingly powerful because a player could place one or more Slowking on the bench, prevent the opponent from playing any Trainer cards, and still play a stronger Pokémon as the active Pokémon, which basically shut down the opponent's deck forever. forever.
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Sneasel from the Neo Genesis set was simply banned because it was too powerful offensively; by the second turn of the game, its Beat Up attack allowed the user to flip up to six coins (one for each benched Pokemon and one for Sneasel), netting 20 damage per heads, and + 20 more damage due to the two Darkness energies that were on Sneasel in order to use the attack. Along with broken trainers like Computer Search and Professor Oak, this was easy to accomplish, and from the second turn on it was easy to AVERAGE 80 damage per turn; considering the maximum HP for any Pokemon was 120 at the time (and 120 was a rare trait, the average for a fully evolved Pokemon was about 80-90), it's easy to see why this was banned; you simply didn't win if you didn't play your own Sneasel deck. These bans were effectively lifted once the set was rotated out Sneasel has actually been reprinted in a recent set, but it seems that this is really a matter of the Modified format (since you could only play them rest of the game catching up to it. It's virtually identical to its old version (resistance is now Psychic -20 instead and it has a Fighting x2 weakness), and still a great card, but at 60 HP it's a bit fragile, and there are a number of not-especially-rare cards in the Unlimited format then), game with only two other cards being banned since, First Ticket due to a rule change, and Lysandre's Trump Card, because the recycling ability it had disabled one way to win.more than 120 HP.



** Sneasel has actually been reprinted in a recent set, but it seems that this is really a matter of the rest of the game catching up to it. It's virtually identical to its old version (resistance is now Psychic -20 instead and it has a Fighting x2 weakness), and still a great card, but at 60 HP it's a bit fragile, and there are a number of not-especially-rare cards in the game with more than 120 HP. As it stands, the game no longer contains any banned cards in either the Modified or Unlimited formats; use anything you like as long as it has a legit card back.
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