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* Seeing how Lapis' gem was damaged and yet she was able to draw all the water from earth's oceans and have pretty darn good control over it, not only does one have to wonder what power she actually wields at full health, but also if the gem's caste system is based not just on rarity but also on [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking their natural-born power, just how strong are the Diamonds if gems like Lapis are lower on the ladder?]]

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* Seeing how Lapis' gem was damaged and yet she was able to draw all the water from earth's oceans and have pretty darn good control over it, not only does one have to wonder what power she actually wields at full health, but also if the gem's caste system is based not just on rarity but also on [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking their natural-born power, just how strong are the Diamonds if gems like Lapis are lower on the ladder?]]
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* The only reason Steven found out what happened to his missing friends [[SpannerInTheWorks was because he happened to witness Connie's capture.]] [[ForWantOfANail What would have happened if he hadn't?]] Steven's friends might have all been taken off-planet with him none the wiser. Would Steven have ever found out what happened to them? Would he have even been able to work out that they'd been kidnapped by Homeworld? [[NothingIsScarier Would anyone?]] It doesn't seem likely, since the Crystal Gems weren't even aware that there was an Aquamarine and a Topaz on earth until he told them. And even if he had, how would he be able to go after them after Navy stole the Roaming Eye?

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* The only reason Steven found out what happened to his missing friends [[SpannerInTheWorks was because he happened to witness Connie's capture.]] [[ForWantOfANail What would have happened if he hadn't?]] hadn't? Steven's friends might have all been taken off-planet with him none the wiser. Would Steven have ever found out what happened to them? Would he have even been able to work out that they'd been kidnapped by Homeworld? [[NothingIsScarier Would anyone?]] It doesn't seem likely, since the Crystal Gems weren't even aware that there was an Aquamarine and a Topaz on earth until he told them. And even if he had, how would he be able to go after them after Navy stole the Roaming Eye?
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* The fact that Pearls are made not only to exclusively been a servant race, but a highly objectified one at that. As Peridot said they're literally made to stand around and look pretty, like a trophy wife. There's a creepy undercurrent to Yellow Pearl's snootiness (she's haughty about being enslaved) or Blue Pearl's meekness. The fact that the Gems are mono-sex (essentially space lesbians) oddly makes this creepier, since it's chauvinism from within.

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* The fact that Pearls are made not only to exclusively been be a servant race, but a highly objectified one at that. As Peridot said they're literally made to stand around and look pretty, like a trophy wife. There's a creepy undercurrent to Yellow Pearl's snootiness (she's haughty about being enslaved) or Blue Pearl's meekness. The fact that the Gems are mono-sex (essentially space lesbians) oddly makes this creepier, since it's chauvinism from within.
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\n* It's a popular theory that if Steven dies, Rose will be able to regenerate from her gem. Is there a possibility that Pearl might not have been able to bring herself to save Steven after he fell because there was a part of her that thought that she might get Rose back?

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** It also gets worse if you subscribe to the theory that Pink Steven's ''[[HellIsThatNoise horrific]]'' "she's gone" scream means the Gem half is filled with bitter hatred and raw emotions that it can't safely exert without destruction in its wake. Steven may come to love thyself, but his emotions over abandonment and the loss of his mother combined with all the stress she inadvertently heaped upon his shoulders went downright explosive in that one moment.

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** It also gets worse if you subscribe to the theory that Pink Steven's ''[[HellIsThatNoise horrific]]'' horrific "she's gone" scream means the Gem half is filled with bitter hatred and raw emotions that it can't safely exert without destruction in its wake. Steven may come to love thyself, but his emotions over abandonment and the loss of his mother combined with all the stress she inadvertently heaped upon his shoulders went downright explosive in that one moment.
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* White Diamond doesn't necessarily look old, but she has that air about her. At this point, Yellow and Blue feel even more like Pink's sisters than [[HasTwoMommies parents]], acting as a barrier between her and an abusive mother.

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* White Diamond doesn't necessarily look old, but she has that air about her. At this point, Yellow and Blue feel even more like Pink's sisters than [[HasTwoMommies parents]], parents, acting as a barrier between her and an abusive mother.
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* Considering how Steven's mental state plummets immensely during WesternUniverse/StevenUniverseFuture, it's actually very fortunate that he never corrupted during the original series. One could only wonder how badly things would've gone for him if he now had to deal with the fear and pain of realizing that his gem is beginning to corrupt.

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* Considering how Steven's mental state plummets immensely during WesternUniverse/StevenUniverseFuture, WesternAnimation/StevenUniverseFuture, it's actually very fortunate that he never corrupted during the original series. One could only wonder how badly things would've gone for him if he now had to deal with the fear and pain of realizing that his gem is beginning to corrupt.
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* If the Cluster Gems were enough to horrify Garnet and strong enough to stand against Steven and Connie, then just how horrific and powerful would a Diamond Cluster fusion be? Or what if the Diamonds had corrupted and what would the consequences be?
* Considering how Steven's mental state plummets immensely during WesternUniverse/StevenUniverseFuture, it's actually very fortunate that he never corrupted during the original series. One could only wonder how badly things would've gone for him if he now had to deal with the fear and pain of realizing that his gem is beginning to corrupt.

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Then there's the possibility that Homeworld forces would cotton onto the death of their superiors, [[AvengingTheVillain promoting a full on attack against Steven and the Crystal Gems]], which would up with imprisonment at ''best'' and [[TheHeroDies execution]]/[[KilledOffForReal shattering at absolute worst.]] That's before Homeworld [[CivilWar descends into utter chaos]] with Diamond loyalists and independent opportunists [[EvilPowerVacuum using this power vacuum to either continue where the Diamonds left off or establishing their own reign of terror.]]

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Then there's the possibility that Homeworld forces would cotton onto the death of their superiors, [[AvengingTheVillain promoting a full on attack against Steven and the Crystal Gems]], which would up with imprisonment at ''best'' and [[TheHeroDies execution]]/[[KilledOffForReal shattering at absolute worst.]] That's not counting the idea that the Diamonds would [[SaltTheEarth order their troops to lay waste to Homeworld so the Crystal Gems can't have it]] or any other [[MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning potential contingency plans.]] That's before Homeworld [[CivilWar descends into utter chaos]] with Diamond loyalists and independent opportunists [[EvilPowerVacuum using this power vacuum to either continue where the Diamonds left off or establishing their own reign of terror.]]



* Alternately, bubbling the Diamonds leads to an outcome where Diamond loyalists start a war, free the Diamonds and either allow them to continue their cycle of tyranny or decide they actually enjoy being tyrants themselves and refuse to hand power over, leading to a civil war with many casualties.

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* Alternately, bubbling the Diamonds leads to an outcome where Diamond loyalists start a war, free the Diamonds and either allow them to [[HereWeGoAgain continue their cycle of tyranny tyranny]] or decide they [[RenegadeSplinterFaction actually enjoy being tyrants themselves and refuse to hand power over, over]], leading to a civil war with many casualties.casualties.
** In either scenario, Steven and the Crystal Gems are going to have to fight their way out. If they lose, they end up dead. If they win, they'll have to watch their backs for the rest of their days due to gems who likely want to shatter them as retribution for overthrowing the Great Diamond Authority.
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Then there's the possibility that Homeworld forces would cotton onto the death of their superiors, [[AvengingTheVillain promoting a full on attack against Steven and the Crystal Gems]], which would up with imprisonment at ''best'' and [[TheHeroDies execution]]/[[KilledOffForReal shattering at absolute worst.]] That's before Homeworld [[CivilWar descends into utter chaos]] with Diamond loyalists and independent opportunists [[EvilPowerVaccuum using this power vacuum to either continue where the Diamonds left off or establishing their own reign of terror.]]

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Then there's the possibility that Homeworld forces would cotton onto the death of their superiors, [[AvengingTheVillain promoting a full on attack against Steven and the Crystal Gems]], which would up with imprisonment at ''best'' and [[TheHeroDies execution]]/[[KilledOffForReal shattering at absolute worst.]] That's before Homeworld [[CivilWar descends into utter chaos]] with Diamond loyalists and independent opportunists [[EvilPowerVaccuum [[EvilPowerVacuum using this power vacuum to either continue where the Diamonds left off or establishing their own reign of terror.]]
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Then there's the possibility that Homeworld forces would cotton onto the death of their superiors, [[AvengeTheVillain promoting a full on attack against Steven and the Crystal Gems]], which would up with imprisonment at ''best'' and [[TheHeroDies execution]]/[[KilledOffForReal shattering at absolute worst.]] That's before Homeworld [[CivilWar descends into utter chaos]] with Diamond loyalists and independent opportunists [[EvilPowerVaccuum using this power vacuum to either continue where the Diamonds left off or establishing their own reign of terror.]]

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Then there's the possibility that Homeworld forces would cotton onto the death of their superiors, [[AvengeTheVillain [[AvengingTheVillain promoting a full on attack against Steven and the Crystal Gems]], which would up with imprisonment at ''best'' and [[TheHeroDies execution]]/[[KilledOffForReal shattering at absolute worst.]] That's before Homeworld [[CivilWar descends into utter chaos]] with Diamond loyalists and independent opportunists [[EvilPowerVaccuum using this power vacuum to either continue where the Diamonds left off or establishing their own reign of terror.]]
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* Though the Great Diamond Authority did horrible things throughout the series, shattering them wouldn't have done anything but make things worse in the long run. For starters, who would even replace them? It's highly unlikely that Homeworld citizens are even capable of living in an anarchic society due to the Diamonds conditioning it out of them and any attempts would've been crushed rather quickly due to Homeworld's superior law enforcement.
Then there's the possibility that Homeworld forces would cotton onto the death of their superiors, [[AvengeTheVillain promoting a full on attack against Steven and the Crystal Gems]], which would up with imprisonment at ''best'' and [[TheHeroDies execution]]/[[KilledOffForReal shattering at absolute worst.]] That's before Homeworld [[CivilWar descends into utter chaos]] with Diamond loyalists and independent opportunists [[EvilPowerVaccuum using this power vacuum to either continue where the Diamonds left off or establishing their own reign of terror.]]
It's possible that Homeworld ends up going to war with Earth, which eventually ends in their loss due to lack of resources, the Diamonds being shattered (making death permanent) and decades of human technological advancement. If the remaining Homeworld gems are corrupted, then [[KilledOffForReal curing them is no longer possible]] and if humanity gets it in their collective heads that they can invade Homeworld, then it's likely that the days of what remains of Homeworld are numbered, leading to either enslavement or death at the hand of mankind.
* Alternately, bubbling the Diamonds leads to an outcome where Diamond loyalists start a war, free the Diamonds and either allow them to continue their cycle of tyranny or decide they actually enjoy being tyrants themselves and refuse to hand power over, leading to a civil war with many casualties.

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*** "Change Your Mind" reveals that without his gem, Steven would've likely become extremely weakened and died.




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* After Steven tells Cloud!Rose she's not his mom, she replies with "I'm not?" How sentient exactly are these cloud people, and how much do they believe themselves to be real? What about Cloud!Connie and the residents of Cloud!Beach City?
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* As the Diamonds are un-corrupting all the Gems that they [[BalefulPolymorph screwed up]], Yellow and Blue are more happy and sociable than they've been in the entire ''series''. This begs the question... were Yellow and Blue [[UsedToBeASweetKid once similar to Pink in demeanor]], only for centuries of White Diamond's iron-fisted "parenting" to damage their minds and souls to the point that we saw them in the series? Not only would it explain why they fear White and lean on each other so much, but it also explains their grief over losing Pink- [[BreakTheCutie even if she was going down the same path until right up to the Rebellion.]]

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* As the Diamonds are un-corrupting all the Gems that they [[BalefulPolymorph [[ForcedTransformation screwed up]], Yellow and Blue are more happy and sociable than they've been in the entire ''series''. This begs the question... were Yellow and Blue [[UsedToBeASweetKid once similar to Pink in demeanor]], only for centuries of White Diamond's iron-fisted "parenting" to damage their minds and souls to the point that we saw them in the series? Not only would it explain why they fear White and lean on each other so much, but it also explains their grief over losing Pink- [[BreakTheCutie even if she was going down the same path until right up to the Rebellion.]]
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** Peridot says at one point that because Homeworld is low on resources, Gems born in Era 2 don't have their full range of powers as their Era 1 counterparts, and the powers they do possess are weaker. Our Lapis is obviously an Era 1 Gem, but how many ''other'' Era 1 Lapis Lazulis still exist? Homeworld might not have sent another Lapis to handle Earth because [[FridgeBrilliance they don't have any with that level of power that they can afford to spare.]]
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* Th sheer amount of corrupted monsters and gem artifacts on Earth, so many that even after thousands of years the Crystal Gems are still constantly dealing with them. Just ''how'' many casualities did the war for Earth create?

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* Th The sheer amount of corrupted monsters and gem artifacts on Earth, so many that even after thousands of years the Crystal Gems are still constantly dealing with them. Just ''how'' many casualities causalities did the war for Earth create? How long will it take until the Crystal Gems would have completely cleared the Earth of those things short of a mass cure event as would happen later?
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* Th sheer amount of corrupted monsters and gem artifacts on Earth, so many that even after thousands of years the Crystal Gems are still constantly dealing with them. Just ''how'' many casualities did the war for Earth create?
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** Our Lapis may be, if not a perfect cut, just generally on a higher level than most based on how Future depicted a fight with others of her kind. More likely, Homeworld may not see Lapis gems as the sort to be used that way and don't really grasp how dangerous they could be in a conquest.
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* Garnet's concern for Steven's safety when the Gems are scolding him for trying to run away with Connie is that he [[AdultFear could have gotten mangled in traffic]], which feels a little out there compared to what Amethyst and Pearl suggested. Given everything we know about Garnet after "Future Vision" however, it's very possible that this would have been the ''most'' likely outcome had Alexandrite not intervened.

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* Garnet's concern for Steven's safety when the Gems are scolding him for trying to run away with Connie is that he [[AdultFear could have gotten mangled in traffic]], traffic, which feels a little out there compared to what Amethyst and Pearl suggested. Given everything we know about Garnet after "Future Vision" however, it's very possible that this would have been the ''most'' likely outcome had Alexandrite not intervened.



-->''Steven, [[AdultFear I see so many things that can hurt you.]]''

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* Lapis was willing to take not only [[OnlyFriend Peridot]] and [[TeamPet Pumpkin]] away from their home, but also ''Steven.'' Imagine the AdultFear from his guardians that the person they thought could be trusted essentially kidnapped their child.

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* Lapis was willing to take not only [[OnlyFriend Peridot]] and [[TeamPet Pumpkin]] away from their home, but also ''Steven.'' Imagine the AdultFear fear from his guardians that the person they thought could be trusted essentially kidnapped their child.
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* This episode reveals that many of the structures on Homeworld (such as the pillars, statues and [[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers Blue Diamond's comb]]) are actually ''[[AnimateInanimateObject alive]]''. Just imagine [[AndIMustScream what kind of life]] they must be living.

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* This episode reveals that many of the structures on Homeworld (such as the pillars, statues and [[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers Blue Diamond's comb]]) comb) are actually ''[[AnimateInanimateObject alive]]''. Just imagine [[AndIMustScream what kind of life]] they must be living.
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* A gem fuses with someone else out of hatred in order to beat someone they couldn't defeat alone. Who are we talking about here, Steven in this episode or [[NotSoDifferent Jasper.]]

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* A gem fuses with someone else out of hatred in order to beat someone they couldn't defeat alone. Who are we talking about here, Steven in this episode or [[NotSoDifferent Jasper.]]
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** Why do the Rubies automatically believe everything they're told? Insubordination and disobedience, even accidental displays of such, are harshly punished on Homeworld. Higher-caste Gems won't hesitate to punish or even shatter a lower-ranking Gem for the most minor of offenses. It's possible that the Rubies were either conditioned to never question a superior, or saw some other Gem getting punished for doing so. Or both.

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** Why do the Rubies automatically believe everything they're told? told, not even questioning it? Insubordination and disobedience, even accidental displays of such, are harshly punished on Homeworld. Higher-caste Gems won't hesitate to punish or even shatter a lower-ranking Gem Homeworld, which goes double for the most minor of offenses.lower-ranking, "expendable" Gems. It's possible that the Rubies were either conditioned to never question a superior, or saw some other Gem getting punished for doing so. Or both.On Homeworld, Rubies believing everything they're told and never disobeying orders might be a survival tactic to not get shattered by higher-ranking Gems for showing "disrespect".
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* The Rubies from Garnet's story were generally identical in how they thought and the Crystal Gem's Ruby, while not a genius, is still a lot smarter than the Ruby Squad. With the revelation from Peridot in Too Short To Ride that Era-2 gems are made by conserving resources, it's likely that to not lose out on Rubies' primary attribute (combat strength) their intelligence was scaled back instead.

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** Why do the Rubies automatically believe everything they're told? Insubordination and disobedience, even accidental displays of such, are harshly punished on Homeworld. Higher-caste Gems won't hesitate to punish or even shatter a lower-ranking Gem for the most minor of offenses. It's possible that the Rubies were either conditioned to never question a superior, or saw some other Gem getting punished for doing so. Or both.
* The Rubies from Garnet's story were generally identical in how they thought and the Crystal Gem's Ruby, while not a genius, is still a lot smarter than the Ruby Squad. With the revelation from Peridot in Too "Too Short To Ride Ride" that Era-2 gems are made by conserving resources, it's likely that to not lose out on Rubies' primary attribute (combat strength) their intelligence was scaled back instead.
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* The fact that Pearls are made not only to exclusively been a servant race, but a highly objectified one at that. As Peridot said they're literally made to stand around band look pretty, like a trophy wife. There's a creepy undercurrent to Yellow Pearl's snootiness (she's haughty about being enslaved) or Blue Pearl's meekness. The fact that the Gems are mono-sex (essentially space lesbians) oddly makes this creepier, since it's chauvinism from within.

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* The fact that Pearls are made not only to exclusively been a servant race, but a highly objectified one at that. As Peridot said they're literally made to stand around band and look pretty, like a trophy wife. There's a creepy undercurrent to Yellow Pearl's snootiness (she's haughty about being enslaved) or Blue Pearl's meekness. The fact that the Gems are mono-sex (essentially space lesbians) oddly makes this creepier, since it's chauvinism from within.
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*** Even worse: WordOfGod confirms that the form a Gem chooses is a reflection of their psychological status. Whatever happened to her, literally scarred her for life in more than a way
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* As a weapon of war, the Breaking Point is as AwesomeYetImpractical as it gets: it's short-ranged, slow (requiring a lengthy recharge time in between shots), hard to aim (dealing little to no damage unless it strikes the enemy's gemstone directly), and useless when facing more than one foe. All of these flaws more than outweigh the benefits of its OneHitKill abilities. However, there's one situation where these flaws can be nullified: if your enemy is already helpless and no longer in fighting shape. In other words, foes who would be just as easy to simply poof and bubble, just like Rose wanted to. Which means, the Breaking Point isn't a weapon, it's an execution device! Its only use is to inflict more pain on Gems who already aren't a threat anymore.

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* When Amethyst pulls a GoLookAtTheDistraction, so she can cheat Mr. Smiley at the ring toss game, there's a twist: the distraction (Onion trying to light the roller coaster on fire) ''is actually happening.'' What's Smiley's first reaction when he sees this? "No! I'm still paying off the last lawsuit!" Rides at his park have caught on fire '''before?'''

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* When Amethyst pulls a GoLookAtTheDistraction, LookBehindYou, so she can cheat Mr. Smiley at the ring toss game, there's a twist: the distraction (Onion trying to light the roller coaster on fire) ''is actually happening.'' What's Smiley's first reaction when he sees this? "No! I'm still paying off the last lawsuit!" Rides at his park have caught on fire '''before?'''
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* The only reason Steven found out what happened to his missing friends [[SpannerInTheWorks was because he happened to witness Connie's capture.]] [[ForWantOfANail What would have happened if he hadn't?]] Steven's friends might have all been taken off-planet with him none the wiser. Would Steven have ever found out what happened to them? [[NothingIsScarier Would ''anyone?'']] Would he have even been able to work out that they'd been kidnapped by Homeworld? It doesn't seem likely, since the Crystal Gems weren't even aware that there was an Aquamarine and a Topaz on earth until he told them. And even if he had, how would he be able to go after them after Navy stole the Roaming Eye?

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* The only reason Steven found out what happened to his missing friends [[SpannerInTheWorks was because he happened to witness Connie's capture.]] [[ForWantOfANail What would have happened if he hadn't?]] Steven's friends might have all been taken off-planet with him none the wiser. Would Steven have ever found out what happened to them? [[NothingIsScarier Would ''anyone?'']] Would he have even been able to work out that they'd been kidnapped by Homeworld? [[NothingIsScarier Would anyone?]] It doesn't seem likely, since the Crystal Gems weren't even aware that there was an Aquamarine and a Topaz on earth until he told them. And even if he had, how would he be able to go after them after Navy stole the Roaming Eye?
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* The only reason Steven found out what happened to his missing friends was because he happened to witness Connie's capture. What would have happened if he hadn't? Steven's friends might have all been taken off-planet with him none the wiser. Would Steven have ever found out what happened to them? Would he have been able to work out that they'd been kidnapped by Homeworld? Even if he had, how would he be able to go after them after Navy stole the Roaming Eye?

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* The only reason Steven found out what happened to his missing friends [[SpannerInTheWorks was because he happened to witness Connie's capture. capture.]] [[ForWantOfANail What would have happened if he hadn't? hadn't?]] Steven's friends might have all been taken off-planet with him none the wiser. Would Steven have ever found out what happened to them? [[NothingIsScarier Would ''anyone?'']] Would he have even been able to work out that they'd been kidnapped by Homeworld? Even It doesn't seem likely, since the Crystal Gems weren't even aware that there was an Aquamarine and a Topaz on earth until he told them. And even if he had, how would he be able to go after them after Navy stole the Roaming Eye?

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