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* The all-around bizarre decision to hold film auditions on the ultra-secure Nazi base on Venus makes rather more sense considering Hitler's instability.

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* The all-around bizarre decision to hold film auditions on the ultra-secure Nazi base on Venus makes rather more sense considering Hitler's instability. It also means he's more protected against possible assassination attempts; a potential assailant would have to travel to Venus to get to him.
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* B.J.'s hatred for the Nazis takes on a whole new level when you see just how much his dad resembled one of them; Rip was basically a Nazi in all but lineage. The fact that [[spoiler: he turned LesColaborators by selling out his ethnic neighbors [[MoralEventHorizon and his own wife]] for money]] is thus both horrifying and unsurprising.

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* B.J.'s hatred for the Nazis takes on a whole new level when you see just how much his dad resembled one of them; Rip was basically a Nazi in all but lineage. The fact that [[spoiler: he turned LesColaborators LesCollaborateurs by selling out his ethnic neighbors [[MoralEventHorizon and his own wife]] for money]] is thus both horrifying and unsurprising.



* The Nazi regime has demonized B.J. to the point that [[spoiler: Hiter himself]] tries to make a propaganda film about how "evil" he is. He's practically played up as the equivalent of the greatest SerialKiller in human history by the Nazis, and thus outed to be the most twisted, vile individual on the planet [[HeroWithBadPublicity from their point of view.]] Now imagine the utter hell the Resistance would have to go through if the Nazis ever discovered that Anya was carrying twins from what the regime effectively considers the mortal AntiChrist.

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* The Nazi regime has demonized B.J. to the point that [[spoiler: Hiter Hitler himself]] tries to make a propaganda film about how "evil" he is. He's practically played up as the equivalent of the greatest SerialKiller in human history by the Nazis, and thus outed to be the most twisted, vile individual on the planet [[HeroWithBadPublicity from their point of view.]] Now imagine the utter hell the Resistance would have to go through if the Nazis ever discovered that Anya was carrying twins from what the regime effectively considers the mortal AntiChrist.
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* B.J.'s hatred for the Nazis takes on a whole new level when you see just how much his dad resembled one of them; Rip was basically a Nazi in all but lineage.

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* B.J.'s hatred for the Nazis takes on a whole new level when you see just how much his dad resembled one of them; Rip was basically a Nazi in all but lineage.
lineage. The fact that [[spoiler: he turned LesColaborators by selling out his ethnic neighbors [[MoralEventHorizon and his own wife]] for money]] is thus both horrifying and unsurprising.
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* B.J.'s hatred for the Nazis takes on a whole new level when you see just how much his dad resembled one of them.

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* B.J.'s hatred for the Nazis takes on a whole new level when you see just how much his dad resembled one of them.
them; Rip was basically a Nazi in all but lineage.
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* Wyatt doing acid.... Seems like [=J's=] '[[VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder hobby]]' has gotten to him.
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* B.J.'s hatred for the Nazi's takes on a whole new level when you see just how much his dad resembled one of them.

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* B.J.'s hatred for the Nazi's Nazis takes on a whole new level when you see just how much his dad resembled one of them.
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*** Seeing how the Wolfenstein Nazis control most of the world and may well do so at least until the 90s, based on canonical material from ''The New Order'', and how they have ChronicBackstabbingDisorder, it's most likely that they simply see the KKK as useful idiots who will help them gain a proper foothold in the USA, and then throw them into the death camps all the same, not unlike what a certain other heavily racist group in the modern day would do, by being useful idiots to another foreign, right-wing invasive force that hates The West, and America in particular. The similarities are chilling.
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* B.J.'s hatred for the Nazi's takes on a whole new level when you see just how much his dad resembled one of them.
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* The Nazi regime has effectively demonized B.J. to the point that [[spoiler: Hiter himself]] tries to make a propaganda film about how "evil" he is. He's practically played up as the equivalent of the greatest SerialKiller in human history by the Nazis, and thus outed to be the most twisted, vile individual on the planet. Now imagine the utter hell the Resistance would have to go through if the Nazis ever discovered that Anya was carrying twins from what the regime effectively considers the mortal AntiChrist.

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* The Nazi regime has effectively demonized B.J. to the point that [[spoiler: Hiter himself]] tries to make a propaganda film about how "evil" he is. He's practically played up as the equivalent of the greatest SerialKiller in human history by the Nazis, and thus outed to be the most twisted, vile individual on the planet. planet [[HeroWithBadPublicity from their point of view.]] Now imagine the utter hell the Resistance would have to go through if the Nazis ever discovered that Anya was carrying twins from what the regime effectively considers the mortal AntiChrist.
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* Sitting between Horror and Brilliance, the Ku Klux Klan being in power because of the Nazis actually makes a lot of sense. As J. pointed out in the prequel game, the Nazis' racist viewpoint was hardly new, and anti-African-Americanism in particular was prominent in America -- J. angrily lambastes white Americans as "Nazis before there were Nazis!" at one point, and notes B.J. is the kind of person they would have expected to lead the lynch-mobs. Of course the racist ideology that promotes "white power" would find compatibility with the Nazis vision of Aryan supremacy.

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* Sitting between Horror and Brilliance, the Ku Klux Klan being in power because of the Nazis actually makes a lot of sense. As J. pointed out in the prequel game, the Nazis' racist viewpoint was hardly new, and anti-African-Americanism in particular was prominent in America -- J. angrily lambastes white Americans as "Nazis before there were Nazis!" at one point, and notes B.J. is the kind of person they would have expected to lead the lynch-mobs. Of course the racist ideology that promotes "white power" would find compatibility with the Nazis vision of Aryan supremacy.supremacy.
* The Nazi regime has effectively demonized B.J. to the point that [[spoiler: Hiter himself]] tries to make a propaganda film about how "evil" he is. He's practically played up as the equivalent of the greatest SerialKiller in human history by the Nazis, and thus outed to be the most twisted, vile individual on the planet. Now imagine the utter hell the Resistance would have to go through if the Nazis ever discovered that Anya was carrying twins from what the regime effectively considers the mortal AntiChrist.
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* We see B.J. when he was younger during the opening, and we might as well be staring at the current-gen rendition of ''[[VideoGame/CommanderKeen William Joseph Blazkowicz II aka Billy Blaze]]'' via IdenticalGrandson.

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* We see B.J. when he was younger child during the opening, flashback sequences, and we might as well be staring at the current-gen rendition of ''[[VideoGame/CommanderKeen William Joseph Blazkowicz II aka Billy Blaze]]'' via IdenticalGrandson.
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* Frau Engel follows through on her promise in the first game to kill B.J. and burn his corpse in a furnace! Kind of. She didn't ''quite'' accomplish either (unless the rest of the body followed his head), but props for effort.

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* Frau Engel follows through on her promise in the first game to kill B.J. and burn his corpse in a furnace! Kind of. She didn't ''quite'' accomplish either (unless the rest of the body followed his head), head off-screen), but props for effort.
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* Frau Engel follows through on her promise in the first game to kill B.J. and burn his corpse in a furnace! Kind of. She didn't ''quite'' accomplish either (unless the rest of the body followed his head), but props for effort.
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* BJ is seriously annoyed throughout his incognito adventure on [[spoiler: Venus]], and hates his disguise. It's because it makes him look a ''lot'' like Rip.

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* This seems to be the first ''Wolfenstein'' entry without a castle level... until you remember that the Ausmerzer is basically a giant floating castle.

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* This seems to be the first ''Wolfenstein'' entry without a castle level... until you remember that the Ausmerzer is basically a giant floating castle.
castle. Or the high castle. And B.J. is [[Literature/TheManInTheHighCastle the man in the high castle]].
* In the moonbase level in ''The New Order'', the soldiers stationed there are chiefly armed with energy weapons because bullets can easily damage the hull and cause major problems, such as depressurizing and the removal of oxygen. Which is understandable as the Moon has no atmosphere of its own. In the base on Venus, the soldiers also carry conventional bullet-firing weapons. Because Venus has an atmosphere (although initially uninhabitable; remember that there was a plan mentioned in ''The New Order'' to colonize Venus as to make the planet more inhabitable), there is less risk of those problems should a hull breach occur.
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* This seems to be the first ''Wolfenstein'' entry without a castle level... until you remember that the Ausmerzer is basically a giant floating castle.
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* The all-around bizarre decision to hold film auditions on the ultra-secure Nazi base on Venus makes rather more sense considering Hitler's instability.
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* B.J. defending Sigrun, as mentioned in the Heartwarming page, actually makes sense: in the previous game, B.J. fought alongside Klaus Kreutz, who force B.J. to confront that the Nazis aren't universally beloved even now and that the German people are as much victims of the reigning political party as everyone else is. Given that, how can he not be sympathetic for a woman who clearly does not fit or even seem to ''want'' to fit into the blood-soaked world of the Nazis?

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* B.J. defending Sigrun, as mentioned in the Heartwarming page, actually makes sense: in the previous game, B.J. fought alongside Klaus Kreutz, who force B.J. to confront that the Nazis aren't universally beloved even now and that the German people are as much victims of the reigning political party as everyone else is. Given that, how That, and he had a similar upbringing under an abusive, racist jackass who punished him for the slightest things. How can he not be sympathetic for a woman who clearly does not fit or even seem to ''want'' to fit into the blood-soaked world of the Nazis?
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** It also shows just how completely the Resistance outclasses the Nazis in scientific smarts when [[spoiler:they successfully use the Ubersoldat tech to transfer BJ's decapitated head to a new body; not only have they figured it out themselves, they've learned how to use it to ''save'' lives rather than as pure weapons of war.]]
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* The game's portrayal of the ancient [[spoiler:Adolf Hitler]] as a broken-down, rambling, senile, delusional, psychopathic borderline invalid is not only awesome for continuing the series' philosophy of giving a huge middle finger to the Nazis, it's actually a ''perfectly logical and realistic portrayal''. [[spoiler:After all, Hitler '''was''' physically and mentally breaking down towards the end of the war in real life, courtesy of ungraceful aging, stress and the ludicrous cocktail of drugs he took on a daily basis. Even if he won the War, Hitler would still have ended up degenerating into this kind of human wreckage; Nazi super-science might have kept him alive for decades longer than he should have, but it can't undo the damage he's done to himself.]]
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* We see B.J. when he was younger during the opening, and we might as well be staring at the current-gen rendition of ''[[VideoGame/CommanderKeen William Joseph Blazkowicz II aka Billy Blaze]]'' via IdenticalGrandson.
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*Wyatt doing acid.... Seems like [=J's=] '[[VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder hobby]]' has gotten to him.
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*** Neo-Nazis and the KKK are often overlapping groups in present day times so it seems like the situation in Wolfenstein II is they're collaborating with the Nazis now but are unhappy with the situation.

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*** Neo-Nazis and the KKK are often overlapping groups in present day times so it seems like the situation in Wolfenstein II is they're collaborating with the Nazis now but are unhappy with the situation.

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** As noted on the main page, it's also somewhat odd that the Nazis and KKK would be on speaking terms, [[EvilVsEvil since both groups hated each other in Real Life]], [[RightForTheWrongReasons since the white supremacist KKK were mad at the Nazis for supporting the Asian Japanese]]. However, as revealed in The New Order, [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder the Nazis turned on their "allies" in the Axis, including the Japanese]], so it's likely their invasion and occupation of Japan (along with [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything turning much of the American South into a chattel slavery system ripped from the Confederate States of America]]) that the Klan would decide to try burying the hatchet with the Nazis (although as the "Dankey shaun?" conversation shows, the Nazis are less enthusiastic due to the southerners mangling the German language, and thus making the Klan members less likely to be assimilated before "Transition Day" makes speaking English punishable by execution)

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** As noted on the main page, it's also somewhat odd that the Nazis and KKK would be on speaking terms, [[EvilVsEvil since both groups hated each other in Real Life]], [[RightForTheWrongReasons since the white supremacist KKK were mad at the Nazis for supporting the Asian Japanese]]. However, as revealed in The New Order, [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder the Nazis turned on their "allies" in the Axis, including the Japanese]], so it's likely their invasion and occupation of Japan (along with [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything turning much of the American South into a chattel slavery system ripped from the Confederate States of America]]) that the Klan would decide to try burying the hatchet with the Nazis (although as the "Dankey shaun?" conversation shows, the Nazis are less enthusiastic due to the southerners mangling the German language, and thus making the Klan members less likely to be assimilated before "Transition Day" makes speaking English punishable by execution)execution).
*** Neo-Nazis and the KKK are often overlapping groups in present day times so it seems like the situation in Wolfenstein II is they're collaborating with the Nazis now but are unhappy with the situation.
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** As noted on the main page, it's also somewhat odd that the Nazis and KKK would be on speaking terms, [[EvilVsEvil since both groups hated each other in Real Life]], [[RightForTheWrongReasons since the white supremacist KKK were mad at the Nazis for supporting the Asian Japanese]]. However, as revealed in The New Order, [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder the Nazis turned on their "allies" in the Axis, including the Japanese]], so it's likely their invasion and occupation of Japan (along with [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything turning much of the American South into a chattel slavery system ripped from the Confederate States of America]]) that the Klan would decide to try burying the hatchet with the Nazis (although as the "Dankey shaun?" conversation shows, the Nazis are less enthusiastic due to the southerners mangling the German language, and thus making the Klan members less likely to be assimilated before "Transition Day" makes speaking English punishable by execution)

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* B.J. defending Sigrun, as mentioned in the Heartwarming page, actually makes sense: in the previous game, B.J. fought alongside Klaus Kreutz, who force B.J. to confront that the Nazis aren't universally beloved even now and that the German people are as much victims of the reigning political party as everyone else is. Given that, how can he not be sympathetic for a woman who clearly does not fit or even seem to ''want'' to fit into the blood-soaked world of the Nazis?



* During the Roswell parade, you overhear one of the townspeople mentioning how his 'slave' tried to steal some food. Meaning the Nazis reinstated chattel slavery in the United States. Aside from further explaining why Grace is especially hostile towards whites and Nazis, it also makes it clear that when the Nazis are driven off American soil, there will a lot of hostility towards fellow citizens not only collaborating with the Nazis but also reviving the horrors of the Confederacy.

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* During the Roswell parade, you overhear one of the townspeople mentioning how his 'slave' tried to steal some food. Meaning the Nazis reinstated chattel slavery in the United States. Aside from further explaining why Grace is especially hostile towards whites and Nazis, it also makes it clear that when the Nazis are driven off American soil, there will a lot of hostility towards fellow citizens not only collaborating with the Nazis Nazis, but also reviving the horrors of the Confederacy.Confederacy.
* Sitting between Horror and Brilliance, the Ku Klux Klan being in power because of the Nazis actually makes a lot of sense. As J. pointed out in the prequel game, the Nazis' racist viewpoint was hardly new, and anti-African-Americanism in particular was prominent in America -- J. angrily lambastes white Americans as "Nazis before there were Nazis!" at one point, and notes B.J. is the kind of person they would have expected to lead the lynch-mobs. Of course the racist ideology that promotes "white power" would find compatibility with the Nazis vision of Aryan supremacy.
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* The uneasy conversation between two Klan members whose DeepSouth accents keep mangling German ("Dankey shaun?") seems a bit odd, but it makes a little more sense when you consider that the Nazis apparently disdained the KKK.
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* Liesel looks funny in Wolfenstein's typical NarmCharm way, given that it's [[JustForFun/XMeetsY Lassie with a Panzerhund instead of a collie.]] But, like much of Wolfenstein's typical NarmCharm, it becomes a bit less funny when you think about it. For example, think back to the Nazi treatment of their vast array of war machines back in [[Videogame/WolfensteinTheOldBlood The Old Blood]] and [[Videogame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder The New Order]]. More than half the inventions we saw the Nazis push in The New Order were military or supported the military in some way - the robots were all used to crush civilians into the dirt, the moonbase (which should have by all rights been a symbol of hope) was to support an inescapable labor camp, a proposed artificial intelligence was going to be used to automatize the process of determining what made a good citizen, and so on. Virtually none of the futuristic inventions have been used to benefit society. Consider also: One magazine in The Old Blood features the a Kampfhund chasing a frisbee thrown by some children. Take that, then take Liesel, and consider that the Nazis of this universe had to come up with flimsy, failing civilian uses for their monsters and mechanical horrors rather than invent anything useful. And so, NONE OF THIS benefitted actual people. It only benefitted the system to use people more efficiently. Liesel is an attempt by the Nazis to normalize their military horrors to the people that the Nazis continually fail to help.

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* Liesel looks funny in Wolfenstein's typical NarmCharm way, given that it's [[JustForFun/XMeetsY Lassie with a Panzerhund instead of a collie.]] But, like much of Wolfenstein's typical NarmCharm, it becomes a bit less funny when you think about it. For example, think back to the Nazi treatment of their vast array of war machines back in [[Videogame/WolfensteinTheOldBlood The Old Blood]] and [[Videogame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder The New Order]]. More than half the inventions we saw the Nazis push in The New Order were military or supported the military in some way - the robots were all used to crush civilians into the dirt, the moonbase (which should have by all rights been a symbol of hope) was to support an inescapable labor camp, a proposed artificial intelligence was going to be used to automatize the process of determining what made a good citizen, and so on. Virtually none of the futuristic inventions have been used to benefit society. Consider also: One magazine in The Old Blood features the a Kampfhund chasing a frisbee thrown by some children. Take that, then take Liesel, and consider that the Nazis of this universe had to come up with flimsy, failing civilian uses for their monsters and mechanical horrors rather than invent anything useful. And so, NONE OF THIS benefitted actual people. It only benefitted the system to use people more efficiently. Liesel is an attempt by the Nazis to normalize their military horrors to the people that the Nazis continually fail to help.help.
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* During the Roswell parade, you overhear one of the townspeople mentioning how his 'slave' tried to steal some food. Meaning the Nazis reinstated chattel slavery in the United States. Aside from further explaining why Grace is especially hostile towards whites and Nazis, it also makes it clear that when the Nazis are driven off American soil, there will a lot of hostility towards fellow citizens not only collaborating with the Nazis but also reviving the horrors of the Confederacy.
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* Liesel looks funny in Wolfenstein's typical NarmCharm way, given that it's [[JustForFun/XMeetsY Lassie with a Panzerhund instead of a collie.]] But, like much of Wolfenstein's typical NarmCharm, it becomes a bit less funny when you think about it. For example, think back to the Nazi treatment of their vast array of war machines back in [[Videogame/WolfensteinTheOldBlood The Old Blood]] and [[Videogame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder The New Order]]. More than half the inventions we saw the Nazis push in The New Order were military or supported the military in some way - the robots were all used to crush civilians into the dirt, the moonbase (which should have by all rights been a symbol of hope) was to support an inescapable labor camp, a proposed artificial intelligence was going to be used to automatize the process of determining what made a good citizen, and so on. Virtually none of the futuristic inventions have been used to benefit society. Consider also: One magazine in The Old Blood features the a Panzerhund chasing a frisbee thrown by some children. Take that, then take Liesel, and consider that the Nazis of this universe had to come up with flimsy, failing civilian uses for their monsters and mechanical horrors rather than invent anything useful. And so, NONE OF THIS benefitted actual people. It only benefitted the system to use people more efficiently. Liesel is an attempt by the Nazis to normalize their military horrors to the people that the Nazis continually fail to help.

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* Liesel looks funny in Wolfenstein's typical NarmCharm way, given that it's [[JustForFun/XMeetsY Lassie with a Panzerhund instead of a collie.]] But, like much of Wolfenstein's typical NarmCharm, it becomes a bit less funny when you think about it. For example, think back to the Nazi treatment of their vast array of war machines back in [[Videogame/WolfensteinTheOldBlood The Old Blood]] and [[Videogame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder The New Order]]. More than half the inventions we saw the Nazis push in The New Order were military or supported the military in some way - the robots were all used to crush civilians into the dirt, the moonbase (which should have by all rights been a symbol of hope) was to support an inescapable labor camp, a proposed artificial intelligence was going to be used to automatize the process of determining what made a good citizen, and so on. Virtually none of the futuristic inventions have been used to benefit society. Consider also: One magazine in The Old Blood features the a Panzerhund Kampfhund chasing a frisbee thrown by some children. Take that, then take Liesel, and consider that the Nazis of this universe had to come up with flimsy, failing civilian uses for their monsters and mechanical horrors rather than invent anything useful. And so, NONE OF THIS benefitted actual people. It only benefitted the system to use people more efficiently. Liesel is an attempt by the Nazis to normalize their military horrors to the people that the Nazis continually fail to help.
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I would've put this on the New Order pages, but, well, y'know, I'd rather put this somewhere more current.

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* Liesel looks funny in Wolfenstein's typical NarmCharm way, given that it's [[JustForFun/XMeetsY Lassie with a Panzerhund instead of a collie.]] But, like much of Wolfenstein's typical NarmCharm, it becomes a bit less funny when you think about it. For example, think back to the Nazi treatment of their vast array of war machines back in [[Videogame/WolfensteinTheOldBlood The Old Blood]] and [[Videogame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder The New Order]]. More than half the inventions we saw the Nazis push in The New Order were military or supported the military in some way - the robots were all used to crush civilians into the dirt, the moonbase (which should have by all rights been a symbol of hope) was to support an inescapable labor camp, a proposed artificial intelligence was going to be used to automatize the process of determining what made a good citizen, and so on. Virtually none of the futuristic inventions have been used to benefit society. Consider also: One magazine in The Old Blood features the a Panzerhund chasing a frisbee thrown by some children. Take that, then take Liesel, and consider that the Nazis of this universe had to come up with flimsy, failing civilian uses for their monsters and mechanical horrors rather than invent anything useful. And so, NONE OF THIS benefitted actual people. It only benefitted the system to use people more efficiently. Liesel is an attempt by the Nazis to normalize their military horrors to the people that the Nazis continually fail to help.

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