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* In "Wanko's Warehouse", the characters find out that the sale at the eponymous store actually starts the next morning instead of that evening because Trina did not specify the exact time to Tori, who told everyone else. Jade blames Tori for this and everyone goes along with it even though it was clearly Trina who got it wrong in the first place, which makes it seem like a ButtMonkey moment for Tori. However, Trina is well known to be not so intelligent, unpleasant, and does not have a good relationship with the main characters, especially her sister. In this case, Tori should have at least been a bit skeptical about the sale and should have checked to make sure Trina's claims were true, and even if she wasn't suspicious, she still could have double-checked with either someone else or looked on the Wanko's Warehouse website, which would have the exact date and time of the sale, just to be sure. In short, while Trina does share some of the blame for not being clear, it was technically Tori's fault too for taking this at face value and not double-checking before telling her friends.
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* In the episode "Terror on Cupcake Street" Tori goes out to look for help after their parade float breaks down. She runs across a group of tough looking men in a harsh neighborhood. Although nothing happens, this troper found the entire scene rather disturbing considering [[{{Squick}} the possibilities]] of what could have [[GratuitousRape occurred]] to a [[JailBait young girl alone]] in an LA neighborhood at night, dressed in footie-pajamas no less.

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* In the episode "Terror on Cupcake Street" Tori goes out to look for help after their parade float breaks down. She runs across a group of tough looking men in a harsh neighborhood. Although nothing happens, this troper found the entire scene rather disturbing considering [[{{Squick}} the possibilities]] of what could have [[GratuitousRape occurred]] to a [[JailBait young girl alone]] alone in an LA neighborhood at night, dressed in footie-pajamas no less.
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* In 'The Breakfast Bunch', Vice Principal Dickers says "When you mess with the cow, you get the udders". [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar Besides the obvious implications of that]], he basically just called himself a female cow, even when the original saying mentions the male equivalent, a bull.

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* In 'The Breakfast Bunch', Vice Principal Dickers says "When you mess with the cow, you get the udders". [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar Besides the obvious implications of that]], that, he basically just called himself a female cow, even when the original saying mentions the male equivalent, a bull.
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--> '''Beck''': Yeah, I should've told you this is a bad place to hide from Jade.
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* In "Crazy Ponnie", Cat is on the run from Jade after accidentally waxing her eyebrows off. She's only running throughout the school without finding a place to settle when she could instead just hide in the janitor's closet... except she knows Jade enough to know Jade would think to look there and corner her. Seems Andre and Tori forgot about that in "Tori Fixes Beck & Jade".
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**In the same episode, it is stated that his friends' fighting makes Robbie cry. This also sounds like the reaction of someone being traumatized by his parents fighting and/or yelling at him
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** Another one from that episode. When Andre is trying to say whom he wrote the song "365 Days" for Tori cuts him off and [[BlatantLies says it is for his dog]]. Jade, who is the subject of the song, made Tori act like a dog during an improv class in the first episode of the show.
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* While it's true that the "Bird Scene" has a lot of problems, it totally fits into the problem that Tori faced early in the series. The point of the "Bird Scene" is for the student to feel proud of themselves and of their talents, no matter what the people around them said. As stated in the first episode, the reason why Tori never tried out to roll into "Hollywood Arts" was because her low self-esteem held her back and because she was not sure if she was good enough. The "Bird Scene" taught her that she was already talented, she just had to believe in herself and not to care about others' (particularly Jade's) opinions.
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* Tori continually getting lead roles over Jade. At first it seems done simply to fit the real life subtext that Music/VictoriaJustice is the star of the show and not Creator/ElizabethGillies. But if you look at it in-universe, Tori comes into the school as someone who is untrained in singing and acting (and doesn't even know the most basic of musical and acting terminology). Hollywood Arts is a Performing Arts ''School'' not Broadway. Music/VictoriaJustice might herself be not quite as good as Creator/LizGillies in real life, but that doesn't mean that ''Tori Vega the character'', who is untrained and already almost as good as Jade is can't have the potential to be just as good or better than Jade. Tori certainly needs more of an education than Jade does, and more time as a lead to help fulfil her potential and overcome her late bloomer status through experience.

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* Tori continually getting lead roles over Jade. At first it seems done simply to fit the real life subtext that Music/VictoriaJustice is the star of the show and not Creator/ElizabethGillies. But if you look at it in-universe, Tori comes into the school as someone who is untrained in singing and acting (and doesn't even know the most basic of musical and acting terminology). Hollywood Arts is a Performing Arts ''School'' not Broadway. Music/VictoriaJustice might herself be not quite as good as Creator/LizGillies Creator/ElizabethGillies in real life, but that doesn't mean that ''Tori Vega the character'', who is untrained and already almost as good as Jade is can't have the potential to be just as good or better than Jade. Tori certainly needs more of an education than Jade does, and more time as a lead to help fulfil her potential and overcome her late bloomer status through experience.
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* Tori continually getting lead roles over Jade. At first it seems done simply to fit the real life subtext that Music/VictoriaJustice is the star of the show and not Creator/LizGillies. But if you look at it in-universe, Tori comes into the school as someone who is untrained in singing and acting (and doesn't even know the most basic of musical and acting terminology). Hollywood Arts is a Performing Arts ''School'' not Broadway. Music/VictoriaJustice might herself be not quite as good as Creator/LizGillies in real life, but that doesn't mean that ''Tori Vega the character'', who is untrained and already almost as good as Jade is can't have the potential to be just as good or better than Jade. Tori certainly needs more of an education than Jade does, and more time as a lead to help fulfil her potential and overcome her late bloomer status through experience.

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* Tori continually getting lead roles over Jade. At first it seems done simply to fit the real life subtext that Music/VictoriaJustice is the star of the show and not Creator/LizGillies.Creator/ElizabethGillies. But if you look at it in-universe, Tori comes into the school as someone who is untrained in singing and acting (and doesn't even know the most basic of musical and acting terminology). Hollywood Arts is a Performing Arts ''School'' not Broadway. Music/VictoriaJustice might herself be not quite as good as Creator/LizGillies in real life, but that doesn't mean that ''Tori Vega the character'', who is untrained and already almost as good as Jade is can't have the potential to be just as good or better than Jade. Tori certainly needs more of an education than Jade does, and more time as a lead to help fulfil her potential and overcome her late bloomer status through experience.
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** A bit lessened by the fact that it seems to be less like they're real stalkers and more like they're just students at the same school that Sikowitz got to give them a push towards working together. It seems more likely that he would try and give them a 'common enemy' to bond over then that they were real stalkers.
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* When rewatching "Who Did it to Trina?" it becomes clear that Robbie is trying to direct suspicions away from Rex. He backs up Jade's story that Tori threatened to kill Trina and he uses his story to point the blame towards Cat. What makes the former interesting is that he was initially surprised when he heard Tori threatened her sister. However, when Jade finishes her story, he claims to remember hearing it happen. Did he really remember, [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation or was he lying to protect Rex?]]
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* In "Tori The Zombie" Beck and Tori's performance was lauded while Robbie's was criticized. While it comes off as another ButtMonkey moment, Robbie had the harder role compared them. Beck played a charismatic NiceGuy like he is on the show, Tori played a girl conflicted between 2 lovers, which wouldn't be out of place for her character. Robbie however is a NiceJewishBoy playing a pretentious {{Jerkass}}. Since this is against his personality, it would be the tougher acting challenge.
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* "Robarazzi", the plot could've easily been ended by one of the students reporting one of Robbie's actions to a faculty member. However, in "Jade Dumps Beck" it was revealed that The Slap (where Robarazzi was posted) is an underground site run by the students. If they had told a faculty member, that would've exposed the existence of The Slap and gotten it shut down by the school. That would've ruined their reputation at Hollywood Arts.
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** Remember the other descriptions too? Jade had to be an inhumanly nice farmgirl (doable, there's a lot you can make up for that), Beck had to just be British and invade people's personal space (again, a lot you can make up), Robbie was a motivational speaker who just had to occasionally fall down (so he just had to spout a bunch of positive sounding BS), Cat had to be a lousy comedienne (aka herself but intentionally obnoxious), but Andre and Tori just had "you're a pregant marathon runner" and "police officer with too much lipstick and a Raisin Bran fetish." There was much less to work with, especially if Tori thought that by adopting a Jersey accent she was perfectly imitating a cop (too much TV?). Andre just sat around, panted, and asked for water.

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** Remember the other descriptions too? Jade had to be an inhumanly nice farmgirl (doable, there's a lot you can make up for that), Beck had to just be British and invade people's personal space (again, a lot you can make up), Robbie was a motivational speaker who just had to occasionally fall down (so he just had to spout a bunch of positive sounding BS), BS and then fall down on occasion), Cat had to be a lousy comedienne (aka herself but intentionally obnoxious), but Andre and Tori just had "you're a pregant marathon runner" and "police officer with too much lipstick and a Raisin Bran fetish." There was much less to work with, especially if Tori thought that by adopting a Jersey accent she was perfectly imitating a cop (too much TV?). Andre just sat around, panted, and asked for water.
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*** There was her "man down, man down!" moment. They may have all just run out of ideas at the end of the night. It's hard to hold a 2-dimensional character for a short skit (like on WhoseLineIsItAnyway), much less a six to eight hour party.

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*** There was her "man down, man down!" moment. They may have all just run out of ideas at the end of the night. It's hard to hold a 2-dimensional character for a short skit (like on WhoseLineIsItAnyway), ''Series/WhoseLineIsItAnyway''), much less a six to eight hour party.


** ContinuitySnarl via TheyJustDidntCare.

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** ContinuitySnarl via TheyJustDidntCare.ContinuitySnarl.



** Except it's specifically mentioned as being Drake & Josh. Don't bother looking into it too hard... TheyJustDidntCare.

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** Except it's specifically mentioned as being Drake & Josh. Don't bother looking into it too hard... TheyJustDidntCare.hard.
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* In "Terror On Cupcake Street" Cat has the gang wear candy pajamas for the [[MakesAsMuchSenseInContext Parade Parade]]. This could be brushed off as Cat just being Cat. However, one of Dan Schnieder's older shows, The Amanda Show, had 2 characters who were in the same sketch, '''Candy''' Tulips and Tony '''Pajamas'''. Maybe it was a cleverly hidden reference for older viewers.
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* Apparently the characters watch DrakeAndJosh, so how do they not notice that their principal is Helen?
** That's more like fridge wallbanger because you have an episode where Helen comes in references Crazy Steve making it clear that she is ''the'' Helen. The next episode DrakeAndJosh is somehow a TV show. Even though their principal is Helen.

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* Apparently the characters watch DrakeAndJosh, Series/DrakeAndJosh, so how do they not notice that their principal is Helen?
** That's more like fridge wallbanger because you have an episode where Helen comes in references Crazy Steve making it clear that she is ''the'' Helen. The next episode DrakeAndJosh Drake & Josh is somehow a TV show. Even though their principal is Helen.



** Maybe DrakeAndJosh is a reality show in their universe?

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** Maybe DrakeAndJosh Drake & Josh is a reality show in their universe?



** Except it's specifically mentioned as being DrakeAndJosh. Don't bother looking into it too hard... TheyJustDidntCare.
** I've always thought of it more as FridgeBrilliance, in the sense that I've always assumed DrakeAndJosh was something of a reality show in the Schneider verse, a semi-scripted one, making it possible for them to have watched episodes of it, for characters like Helen to actually be real in Schneider's different shows, and an explanation for the intro sequences for DrakeAndJosh.

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** Except it's specifically mentioned as being DrakeAndJosh.Drake & Josh. Don't bother looking into it too hard... TheyJustDidntCare.
** I've always thought of it more as FridgeBrilliance, in the sense that I've always assumed DrakeAndJosh Drake & Josh was something of a reality show in the Schneider verse, a semi-scripted one, making it possible for them to have watched episodes of it, for characters like Helen to actually be real in Schneider's different shows, and an explanation for the intro sequences for DrakeAndJosh.Drake & Josh.
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* In one episode, the gang is at the beach and get trapped in Beck's RV. The only person who knows where they are is Cat, wo left to use the bathroom and didn't take her phone with her. While the situation is bad enough for the ones who are trapped, [[TheDitz Cat]] is in her swimsuit with a group of guys who keep making excuses for her to stay with them. When you consider what could have happened in either case, it is terrifying.

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** Add to that Tori's father is a police officer and supposedly doesn't let the San Diego authorities know his daughter and her friends were there.
* In one episode, the gang is at the beach and get trapped in Beck's RV. The only person who knows where they are is Cat, wo left to use the bathroom and didn't take her phone with her. While the situation is bad enough for the ones who are trapped, [[TheDitz Cat]] is in her swimsuit with a group of guys who keep making excuses for her to stay with them. When you consider what could have happened in either case, it is terrifying.
terrifying.
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* The song "Take a Hint" has some...troubling lyrics when you think about them. "Take your hands off my hips." "You asked me what my sign is and I told you it was 'stop'." "What about 'no' don't you get?" The subject of that song sounds more like a ''rapist'' than a generally harmless StalkerWithACrush[=/=]PrinceCharmingWannabe. On a related note, the two guys and their irritating actions towards Tori and Jade were PlayedForLaughs, but viewers who have faced sexual harassment might find it less amusing.

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* The song "Take a Hint" has some...troubling lyrics when you think about them. "Take your hands off my hips." "You asked me what my sign is and I told you it was 'stop'." "What about 'no' don't you get?" The subject of that song sounds more like a ''rapist'' than a generally harmless StalkerWithACrush[=/=]PrinceCharmingWannabe. On a related note, the two guys and their irritating actions towards Tori and Jade were PlayedForLaughs, but viewers who have faced sexual harassment or have been stalked might find it less amusing.
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** Actually, on the "[=iParty=] With Victorious" extended version behind the scenes, the guy in the Panda suit was revealed to be [[spoiler:[[{{iCarly}} T-Bo.]]]]

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** Actually, on the "[=iParty=] With Victorious" extended version behind the scenes, the guy in the Panda suit was revealed to be [[spoiler:[[{{iCarly}} [[spoiler:[[Series/{{iCarly}} T-Bo.]]]]



** On the other hand, [[{{ICarly}} Carly]] wouldn't have known about [[CrossOver the party at Kenan's]] without Rex talking about it on his Slap page and Steven might have been able to continue two-timing her. The gang wouldn't have found out from him that Robbie was in the hospital, Robbie would've never passed his audition for Helen, and Robbie would've never assumed Cat was lying about Tug.

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** On the other hand, [[{{ICarly}} [[Series/ICarly Carly]] wouldn't have known about [[CrossOver the party at Kenan's]] without Rex talking about it on his Slap page and Steven might have been able to continue two-timing her. The gang wouldn't have found out from him that Robbie was in the hospital, Robbie would've never passed his audition for Helen, and Robbie would've never assumed Cat was lying about Tug.



** Well Victoria Justice ''was'' [[ICarly Shelby Marx]] so she's not entirely [[ActorAllusion lying about the martial arts part]]...until you consider that ''iCarly'' and ''Victorious'' co-exist so technically, Shelby Marx is a separate existing character in-universe.

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** Well Victoria Justice ''was'' [[ICarly [[Series/ICarly Shelby Marx]] so she's not entirely [[ActorAllusion lying about the martial arts part]]...until you consider that ''iCarly'' and ''Victorious'' co-exist so technically, Shelby Marx is a separate existing character in-universe.
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* Tori continually getting lead roles over Jade. At first it seems done simply to fit the real life subtext that VictoriaJustice is the star of the show and not LizGillies. But if you look at it in-universe, Tori comes into the school as someone who is untrained in singing and acting (and doesn't even know the most basic of musical and acting terminology). Hollywood Arts is a Performing Arts ''School'' not Broadway. VictoriaJustice might herself be not quite as good as LizGillies in real life, but that doesn't mean that ''Tori Vega the character'', who is untrained and already almost as good as Jade is can't have the potential to be just as good or better than Jade. Tori certainly needs more of an education than Jade does, and more time as a lead to help fulfil her potential and overcome her late bloomer status through experience.

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* Tori continually getting lead roles over Jade. At first it seems done simply to fit the real life subtext that VictoriaJustice Music/VictoriaJustice is the star of the show and not LizGillies.Creator/LizGillies. But if you look at it in-universe, Tori comes into the school as someone who is untrained in singing and acting (and doesn't even know the most basic of musical and acting terminology). Hollywood Arts is a Performing Arts ''School'' not Broadway. VictoriaJustice Music/VictoriaJustice might herself be not quite as good as LizGillies Creator/LizGillies in real life, but that doesn't mean that ''Tori Vega the character'', who is untrained and already almost as good as Jade is can't have the potential to be just as good or better than Jade. Tori certainly needs more of an education than Jade does, and more time as a lead to help fulfil her potential and overcome her late bloomer status through experience.
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* In 'The Breakfast Bunch', Vice Princepal Dickers says "When you mess with the cow, you get the udders". [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar Besides the obvious implications of that]], he basically just called himself a female cow, even when the original saying mentions the male equivalent, a bull.

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* In 'The Breakfast Bunch', Vice Princepal Principal Dickers says "When you mess with the cow, you get the udders". [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar Besides the obvious implications of that]], he basically just called himself a female cow, even when the original saying mentions the male equivalent, a bull.
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** Hopefully, Tori next move was to tell her dad (who is a cop).

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** Remember the other descriptions too? Jade had to be an inhumanly nice farmgirl (doable, there's a lot you can make up for that), Beck had to just be British and invade people's personal space (again, a lot you can make up), Robbie was a motivational speaker who just had to occasionally fall down (so he just had to spout a bunch of positive sounding BS), Cat had to be a lousy comedienne (aka herself but intentionally obnoxious), but Andre and Tori just had "you're a pregant marathon runner" and "police officer with too much lipstick and a Rasin Bran fetish." There was much less to work with, especially if Tori thought that by adopting a Jersey accent she was perfectly immitating a cop (too much TV?). Andre just sat around, panted, and asked for water.

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** Remember the other descriptions too? Jade had to be an inhumanly nice farmgirl (doable, there's a lot you can make up for that), Beck had to just be British and invade people's personal space (again, a lot you can make up), Robbie was a motivational speaker who just had to occasionally fall down (so he just had to spout a bunch of positive sounding BS), Cat had to be a lousy comedienne (aka herself but intentionally obnoxious), but Andre and Tori just had "you're a pregant marathon runner" and "police officer with too much lipstick and a Rasin Raisin Bran fetish." There was much less to work with, especially if Tori thought that by adopting a Jersey accent she was perfectly immitating imitating a cop (too much TV?). Andre just sat around, panted, and asked for water.



** Jade has mentioned her mother on the show and on The Slap. But she also revealed on The Slap that her father has a "new family," meaning her parents are divorced. This could certainly contribute to her feelings of insecurity regarding her relationship with Beck.



* this probably doesn't warrant Fridge Horror but does anyone wonder what happened to the waitress Trina assaulted in "Andrez's Horrible Girl". She basically kidnapped her, and stole her clothes and we don't know what happened. Also, does this meen she's somewhere naked?

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* this probably doesn't warrant Fridge Horror but does anyone wonder what happened to the waitress Trina assaulted in "Andrez's "Andre's Horrible Girl". She basically kidnapped her, and stole her clothes and we don't know what happened. Also, does this meen mean she's somewhere naked?

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