History Fridge / Victorious

1st Apr '16 4:39:21 PM nombretomado
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* Apparently the characters watch DrakeAndJosh, so how do they not notice that their principal is Helen?
** That's more like fridge wallbanger because you have an episode where Helen comes in references Crazy Steve making it clear that she is ''the'' Helen. The next episode DrakeAndJosh is somehow a TV show. Even though their principal is Helen.

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* Apparently the characters watch DrakeAndJosh, Series/DrakeAndJosh, so how do they not notice that their principal is Helen?
** That's more like fridge wallbanger because you have an episode where Helen comes in references Crazy Steve making it clear that she is ''the'' Helen. The next episode DrakeAndJosh Drake & Josh is somehow a TV show. Even though their principal is Helen.



** Maybe DrakeAndJosh is a reality show in their universe?

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** Maybe DrakeAndJosh Drake & Josh is a reality show in their universe?



** Except it's specifically mentioned as being DrakeAndJosh. Don't bother looking into it too hard... TheyJustDidntCare.
** I've always thought of it more as FridgeBrilliance, in the sense that I've always assumed DrakeAndJosh was something of a reality show in the Schneider verse, a semi-scripted one, making it possible for them to have watched episodes of it, for characters like Helen to actually be real in Schneider's different shows, and an explanation for the intro sequences for DrakeAndJosh.

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** Except it's specifically mentioned as being DrakeAndJosh.Drake & Josh. Don't bother looking into it too hard... TheyJustDidntCare.
** I've always thought of it more as FridgeBrilliance, in the sense that I've always assumed DrakeAndJosh Drake & Josh was something of a reality show in the Schneider verse, a semi-scripted one, making it possible for them to have watched episodes of it, for characters like Helen to actually be real in Schneider's different shows, and an explanation for the intro sequences for DrakeAndJosh.Drake & Josh.
19th Mar '16 3:09:48 AM Hossmeister
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15th Mar '16 7:50:27 PM somebob
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* In one episode, the gang is at the beach and get trapped in Beck's RV. The only person who knows where they are is Cat, wo left to use the bathroom and didn't take her phone with her. While the situation is bad enough for the ones who are trapped, [[TheDitz Cat]] is in her swimsuit with a group of guys who keep making excuses for her to stay with them. When you consider what could have happened in either case, it is terrifying.

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** Add to that Tori's father is a police officer and supposedly doesn't let the San Diego authorities know his daughter and her friends were there.
* In one episode, the gang is at the beach and get trapped in Beck's RV. The only person who knows where they are is Cat, wo left to use the bathroom and didn't take her phone with her. While the situation is bad enough for the ones who are trapped, [[TheDitz Cat]] is in her swimsuit with a group of guys who keep making excuses for her to stay with them. When you consider what could have happened in either case, it is terrifying.
terrifying.
8th Feb '16 10:34:51 PM akih08
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* The song "Take a Hint" has some...troubling lyrics when you think about them. "Take your hands off my hips." "You asked me what my sign is and I told you it was 'stop'." "What about 'no' don't you get?" The subject of that song sounds more like a ''rapist'' than a generally harmless StalkerWithACrush[=/=]PrinceCharmingWannabe. On a related note, the two guys and their irritating actions towards Tori and Jade were PlayedForLaughs, but viewers who have faced sexual harassment might find it less amusing.

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* The song "Take a Hint" has some...troubling lyrics when you think about them. "Take your hands off my hips." "You asked me what my sign is and I told you it was 'stop'." "What about 'no' don't you get?" The subject of that song sounds more like a ''rapist'' than a generally harmless StalkerWithACrush[=/=]PrinceCharmingWannabe. On a related note, the two guys and their irritating actions towards Tori and Jade were PlayedForLaughs, but viewers who have faced sexual harassment or have been stalked might find it less amusing.
27th May '15 7:20:21 PM nombretomado
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** Actually, on the "[=iParty=] With Victorious" extended version behind the scenes, the guy in the Panda suit was revealed to be [[spoiler:[[{{iCarly}} T-Bo.]]]]

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** Actually, on the "[=iParty=] With Victorious" extended version behind the scenes, the guy in the Panda suit was revealed to be [[spoiler:[[{{iCarly}} [[spoiler:[[Series/{{iCarly}} T-Bo.]]]]



** On the other hand, [[{{ICarly}} Carly]] wouldn't have known about [[CrossOver the party at Kenan's]] without Rex talking about it on his Slap page and Steven might have been able to continue two-timing her. The gang wouldn't have found out from him that Robbie was in the hospital, Robbie would've never passed his audition for Helen, and Robbie would've never assumed Cat was lying about Tug.

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** On the other hand, [[{{ICarly}} [[Series/ICarly Carly]] wouldn't have known about [[CrossOver the party at Kenan's]] without Rex talking about it on his Slap page and Steven might have been able to continue two-timing her. The gang wouldn't have found out from him that Robbie was in the hospital, Robbie would've never passed his audition for Helen, and Robbie would've never assumed Cat was lying about Tug.



** Well Victoria Justice ''was'' [[ICarly Shelby Marx]] so she's not entirely [[ActorAllusion lying about the martial arts part]]...until you consider that ''iCarly'' and ''Victorious'' co-exist so technically, Shelby Marx is a separate existing character in-universe.

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** Well Victoria Justice ''was'' [[ICarly [[Series/ICarly Shelby Marx]] so she's not entirely [[ActorAllusion lying about the martial arts part]]...until you consider that ''iCarly'' and ''Victorious'' co-exist so technically, Shelby Marx is a separate existing character in-universe.
11th Mar '15 11:06:19 AM TVRulezAgain
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* Tori continually getting lead roles over Jade. At first it seems done simply to fit the real life subtext that VictoriaJustice is the star of the show and not LizGillies. But if you look at it in-universe, Tori comes into the school as someone who is untrained in singing and acting (and doesn't even know the most basic of musical and acting terminology). Hollywood Arts is a Performing Arts ''School'' not Broadway. VictoriaJustice might herself be not quite as good as LizGillies in real life, but that doesn't mean that ''Tori Vega the character'', who is untrained and already almost as good as Jade is can't have the potential to be just as good or better than Jade. Tori certainly needs more of an education than Jade does, and more time as a lead to help fulfil her potential and overcome her late bloomer status through experience.

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* Tori continually getting lead roles over Jade. At first it seems done simply to fit the real life subtext that VictoriaJustice Music/VictoriaJustice is the star of the show and not LizGillies.Creator/LizGillies. But if you look at it in-universe, Tori comes into the school as someone who is untrained in singing and acting (and doesn't even know the most basic of musical and acting terminology). Hollywood Arts is a Performing Arts ''School'' not Broadway. VictoriaJustice Music/VictoriaJustice might herself be not quite as good as LizGillies Creator/LizGillies in real life, but that doesn't mean that ''Tori Vega the character'', who is untrained and already almost as good as Jade is can't have the potential to be just as good or better than Jade. Tori certainly needs more of an education than Jade does, and more time as a lead to help fulfil her potential and overcome her late bloomer status through experience.
21st Dec '14 8:29:22 PM ebrown2112
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* In 'The Breakfast Bunch', Vice Princepal Dickers says "When you mess with the cow, you get the udders". [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar Besides the obvious implications of that]], he basically just called himself a female cow, even when the original saying mentions the male equivalent, a bull.

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* In 'The Breakfast Bunch', Vice Princepal Principal Dickers says "When you mess with the cow, you get the udders". [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar Besides the obvious implications of that]], he basically just called himself a female cow, even when the original saying mentions the male equivalent, a bull.
21st Dec '14 8:22:21 PM ebrown2112
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** Hopefully, Tori next move was to tell her dad (who is a cop).

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** Hopefully, Tori Tori's next move was to tell her dad (who is a cop).
21st Dec '14 8:21:53 PM ebrown2112
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** Hopefully, Tori next move was to tell her dad (who is a cop).
21st Dec '14 7:32:24 PM ebrown2112
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** Remember the other descriptions too? Jade had to be an inhumanly nice farmgirl (doable, there's a lot you can make up for that), Beck had to just be British and invade people's personal space (again, a lot you can make up), Robbie was a motivational speaker who just had to occasionally fall down (so he just had to spout a bunch of positive sounding BS), Cat had to be a lousy comedienne (aka herself but intentionally obnoxious), but Andre and Tori just had "you're a pregant marathon runner" and "police officer with too much lipstick and a Rasin Bran fetish." There was much less to work with, especially if Tori thought that by adopting a Jersey accent she was perfectly immitating a cop (too much TV?). Andre just sat around, panted, and asked for water.

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** Remember the other descriptions too? Jade had to be an inhumanly nice farmgirl (doable, there's a lot you can make up for that), Beck had to just be British and invade people's personal space (again, a lot you can make up), Robbie was a motivational speaker who just had to occasionally fall down (so he just had to spout a bunch of positive sounding BS), Cat had to be a lousy comedienne (aka herself but intentionally obnoxious), but Andre and Tori just had "you're a pregant marathon runner" and "police officer with too much lipstick and a Rasin Raisin Bran fetish." There was much less to work with, especially if Tori thought that by adopting a Jersey accent she was perfectly immitating imitating a cop (too much TV?). Andre just sat around, panted, and asked for water.



** Jade has mentioned her mother on the show and on The Slap. But she also revealed on The Slap that her father has a "new family," meaning her parents are divorced. This could certainly contribute to her feelings of insecurity regarding her relationship with Beck.



* this probably doesn't warrant Fridge Horror but does anyone wonder what happened to the waitress Trina assaulted in "Andrez's Horrible Girl". She basically kidnapped her, and stole her clothes and we don't know what happened. Also, does this meen she's somewhere naked?

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* this probably doesn't warrant Fridge Horror but does anyone wonder what happened to the waitress Trina assaulted in "Andrez's "Andre's Horrible Girl". She basically kidnapped her, and stole her clothes and we don't know what happened. Also, does this meen mean she's somewhere naked?
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