History Fridge / TwelveMonkeys

1st Feb '18 1:18:06 PM RadiatedRonin
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* Consider Dr. Railly's future from this point on. [[spoiler: She fell in love with a person claiming to be a time-traveler, watches that person get shot, takes a moment to look at his ''younger self'' before being presumably carted away by authorities to answer some really uncomfortable questions about a person who is somewhat infamous in certain circles (having completely vanished from a psychiatric ward a few years prior). At that point, her career as a medical professional is done. So, she tries to put some kind of life back together [[{{CassandraTruth/ knowing the world WILL end in a few short months.}}]] No one would believe her crazy story, so she's also now an outcast. And then people start getting really, really sick.]]

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* Consider Dr. Railly's future from this point on. [[spoiler: She fell in love with a person claiming to be a time-traveler, watches that person get shot, takes a moment to look at his ''younger self'' before being presumably carted away by authorities to answer some really uncomfortable questions about a person who is somewhat infamous in certain circles (having completely vanished from a psychiatric ward a few years prior). At that point, her career as a medical professional is done. So, she tries to put some kind of life back together [[{{CassandraTruth/ [[CassandraTruth knowing the world WILL end in a few short months.}}]] ]] No one would believe her crazy story, so she's also now an outcast. And then people start getting really, really sick.]]
1st Feb '18 1:17:38 PM RadiatedRonin
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* Consider Dr. Railly's future from this point on. [[spoiler: She fell in love with a person claiming to be a time-traveler, watches that person get shot, takes a moment to look at his ''younger self'' before being presumably carted away by authorities to answer some really uncomfortable questions about a person who is somewhat infamous in certain circles (having completely vanished from a psychiatric ward a few years prior). At that point, her career as a medical professional is done. So, she tries to put some kind of life back together [[CassandraTruth/ knowing the world WILL end in a few short months.]] No one would believe her crazy story, so she's also now an outcast. And then people start getting really, really sick.]]

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* Consider Dr. Railly's future from this point on. [[spoiler: She fell in love with a person claiming to be a time-traveler, watches that person get shot, takes a moment to look at his ''younger self'' before being presumably carted away by authorities to answer some really uncomfortable questions about a person who is somewhat infamous in certain circles (having completely vanished from a psychiatric ward a few years prior). At that point, her career as a medical professional is done. So, she tries to put some kind of life back together [[CassandraTruth/ [[{{CassandraTruth/ knowing the world WILL end in a few short months.]] }}]] No one would believe her crazy story, so she's also now an outcast. And then people start getting really, really sick.]]
1st Feb '18 1:15:05 PM RadiatedRonin
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* Consider Dr. Railly's future from this point on. [[spoiler: She fell in love with a person claiming to be a time-traveler, watches that person get shot, takes a moment to look at his ''younger self'' before being presumably carted away by authorities to answer some really uncomfortable questions about a person who is somewhat infamous in certain circles (having completely vanished from a psychiatric ward a few years prior). At that point, her career as a medical professional is done. So, she tries to put some kind of life back together ''CassandraTruth/ knowing the world WILL end in a few short months.'' No one would believe her crazy story, so she's also now an outcast. And then people start getting really, really sick.]]

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* Consider Dr. Railly's future from this point on. [[spoiler: She fell in love with a person claiming to be a time-traveler, watches that person get shot, takes a moment to look at his ''younger self'' before being presumably carted away by authorities to answer some really uncomfortable questions about a person who is somewhat infamous in certain circles (having completely vanished from a psychiatric ward a few years prior). At that point, her career as a medical professional is done. So, she tries to put some kind of life back together ''CassandraTruth/ [[CassandraTruth/ knowing the world WILL end in a few short months.'' ]] No one would believe her crazy story, so she's also now an outcast. And then people start getting really, really sick.]]
1st Feb '18 1:14:40 PM RadiatedRonin
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* Consider Dr. Railly's future from this point on. [[spoiler: She fell in love with a person claiming to be a time-traveler, watches that person get shot, takes a moment to look at his ''younger self'' before being presumably carted away by authorities to answer some really uncomfortable questions about a person who is somewhat infamous in certain circles (having completely vanished from a psychiatric ward a few years prior). At that point, her career as a medical professional is done. So, she tries to put some kind of life back together {{CassandraTruth/ knowing the world WILL end in a few short months.}} No one would believe her crazy story, so she's also now an outcast. And then people start getting really, really sick.]]

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* Consider Dr. Railly's future from this point on. [[spoiler: She fell in love with a person claiming to be a time-traveler, watches that person get shot, takes a moment to look at his ''younger self'' before being presumably carted away by authorities to answer some really uncomfortable questions about a person who is somewhat infamous in certain circles (having completely vanished from a psychiatric ward a few years prior). At that point, her career as a medical professional is done. So, she tries to put some kind of life back together {{CassandraTruth/ ''CassandraTruth/ knowing the world WILL end in a few short months.}} '' No one would believe her crazy story, so she's also now an outcast. And then people start getting really, really sick.]]
1st Feb '18 1:13:50 PM RadiatedRonin
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* Consider Dr. Railly's future from this point on. [[spoiler: She fell in love with a person claiming to be a time-traveler, watches that person get shot, takes a moment to look at his ''younger self'' before being presumably carted away by authorities to answer some really uncomfortable questions about a person who is somewhat infamous in certain circles (having completely vanished from a psychiatric ward a few years prior). At that point, her career as a medical professional is done. So, she tries to put some kind of life back together {{CassandraTruth/ knowing the world WILL end in a few short months.}} No one would believe her crazy story, so she's also now an outcast. And then people start getting really, really sick.]]
** This would also go on to include her, as she did not seem to be present in the future segments.
24th Nov '17 12:12:40 PM Cieloazul
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* Before sending him back in time again, the scientist played by actor Simon Jones tells Cole that his idea of preserving the spider was a good one, and to try it again. Jones would know; as Arthur Dent, in the original radio series of ''Radio/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy'', he and Ford Prefect pulled off a pretty similar trick with a fossilised towel...
1st Mar '15 9:38:42 AM Discar
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!!1995 Film:



* When I finally watched ''Film/LaJetee'', I noticed that film includes a near replication of the scene with the tree trunk in ''Film/{{Vertigo}}'': Thus, the scene in ''Film/TwelveMonkeys'' where James Cole and Kathryn Railly are in a theater watching that same part of ''Vertigo'' is referencing both ''Vertigo'' itself and ''La Jetee''.
* When James tells Dr. Railly she's the woman in his dream, she tells him, quite logically, that she's ''become'' the woman in the dream now that he's fixated on her. He insists that it was always her, but he didn't have a name to call her before. This is all well and good until you realise - maybe she's right. Did James only started dreaming of her because he fixated on her, the same way the man who knocked him over became Jeffrey Goines? '''Or''', did she become the woman in the dream ''because'' he altered the course of time by kidnapping her, and prevent Goines from being the spreader of the virus through his own blind, Butterfly-Effect actions? '''Or''', was it both at the same time?
** Furthermore, did Kathryn only start to feel attracted to James because his presence was altering history so that she could be that woman? Does that explain why she whispers "I feel I've always known you" to him in the cinema?

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* When I finally watched ''Film/LaJetee'', I noticed that film ''Film/LaJetee'' includes a near replication of the scene with the tree trunk in ''Film/{{Vertigo}}'': Thus, the scene in ''Film/TwelveMonkeys'' where James Cole and Kathryn Railly are in a theater watching that same part of ''Vertigo'' is referencing both ''Vertigo'' itself and ''La Jetee''.
* When James tells Dr. Railly she's the woman in his dream, she tells him, quite logically, that she's ''become'' the woman in the dream now that he's fixated on her. He insists that it was always her, but he didn't have a name to call her before. This is all well and good until you realise - maybe she's right. Did James only started dreaming of her because he fixated on her, the same way the man who knocked him over became Jeffrey Goines? '''Or''', did she become the woman in the dream ''because'' he altered the course of time by kidnapping her, and prevent Goines from being the spreader of the virus through his own blind, Butterfly-Effect actions? '''Or''', was it both at the same time?
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time? Furthermore, did Kathryn only start to feel attracted to James because his presence was altering history so that she could be that woman? Does that explain why she whispers "I feel I've always known you" to him in the cinema?



* It's been 30 years, and the humans still have to suit up to leave home. That means the virus either spores like anthrax, or has some form of animal reservoir. Neither makes sense for a viral/biological weapon; you'd think the side making it wouldn't want it around ''too'' long.
10th Aug '14 8:54:22 AM Morgenthaler
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* When I finally watched ''LaJetee'', I noticed that film includes a near replication of the scene with the tree trunk in ''Film/{{Vertigo}}'': Thus, the scene in ''TwelveMonkeys'' where James Cole and Kathryn Railly are in a theater watching that same part of ''Vertigo'' is referencing both ''Vertigo'' itself and ''La Jetee''.

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* When I finally watched ''LaJetee'', ''Film/LaJetee'', I noticed that film includes a near replication of the scene with the tree trunk in ''Film/{{Vertigo}}'': Thus, the scene in ''TwelveMonkeys'' ''Film/TwelveMonkeys'' where James Cole and Kathryn Railly are in a theater watching that same part of ''Vertigo'' is referencing both ''Vertigo'' itself and ''La Jetee''.
17th Aug '13 8:45:38 AM SimBen
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* They repeat over and over through the movie that YouCantFightFate. Why, then, do the future scientists [[spoiler: send Jose back at the end to give Cole a gun to attempt to shoot crazy apocalypse guy? Specifically because ''they knew'' he'd fail. He fails, he's always failed, he will always fail. Cole had ripped his teeth out and could therefore no longer be controlled by the future, they were only ensuring the StableTimeLoop would occur while getting rid of a pesky loose end. Jones took a plane from that airport that day, she probably would have been aware of the shooting.]]
3rd Jun '13 10:33:03 PM Candi
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* It's been 30 years, and the humans still have to suit up to leave home. That means the virus either spores like anthrax, or has some form of animal reservoir. Neither makes sense for a viral/biological weapon; you'd think the side making it wouldn't want it around ''too'' long.
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