History Fridge / TheNinthGate

18th Aug '16 5:18:55 PM Kalaong
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*** The books being laid out on the floor in Fargas' mansion was actually taken from the source novel. Not that it necessarily makes it better....
*** Books during the era were printed on extremely heavy paper or vellum, not mere pulp, with bone spines (hence the name "spine") and leather covers, smoking and drinking near them is probably the lightest they were treated in their entire life.
** TruthInTelevision: Real old books are commonly handled without any gloves (though smoking and drinking around them are definitely not allowed), because wearing gloves leads to loss of tactile function, which could actually lead to inadvertently tearing pages or damaging the book. Furthermore, if a book happens to get damaged, it's often repairable.

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*** ** The books being laid out on the floor in Fargas' mansion was actually taken from the source novel. Not that it necessarily makes it better....
*** ** Books during prior to the era invention of the printing press were printed on extremely heavy paper or vellum, not mere pulp, with bone spines (hence the name "spine") and leather covers, covers; don't think "rare pulp magazine", think ''"man-portable stone tablet"'' - something sturdy to preserve knowledge for the ages. Antiquities dealers treat them with care because they're valuable, not because they're delicate. Back when they were first written, readers smoking and drinking near them is probably the lightest they was basically [[ButForMeItWasTuesday Tuesday]] - people read them by candlelight, and if you didn't drink liquor you were treated in their entire life.
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drinking (not-so)CoolClearWater. Still doesn't excuse a "rare book dealer" being so rough with them though.
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TruthInTelevision: Real old books are commonly handled without any gloves (though smoking and drinking around them are definitely not allowed), because wearing gloves leads to loss of tactile function, which could actually lead to inadvertently tearing pages or damaging the book. Furthermore, if a book happens to get damaged, it's often repairable.



** I assumed the girl would be satan from the start knowing Roman Polanski had cast his own wife and his general obsession with making movies about the devil. Read the book later, it's far more obvious in the book than the film.--{{bluebrainfreezy}}

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** I assumed the girl would be satan from the start knowing Roman Polanski had cast his own wife and his general obsession with making movies about the devil. Read the book later, it's far more obvious in the book than the film.--{{bluebrainfreezy}}
14th Jan '15 9:43:48 PM Jachra
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*** She's a fallen angel, but not Satan, in the book.
2nd Jul '14 8:13:02 PM Benjilicious
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*** But the book wasn't complete at that time. Balkan had eight genuine engravings and the false one created by the Spanish brothers.
26th Jun '14 12:29:56 PM NSlayton5
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*** [[spoiler: Not only that, but when Balkan tries to summon the Devil, who appears but Corso, who even says "I'm the only devil you'll see tonight." Sure, Balkan's plan was flawed due to the forgery of the ninth engraving, but the symbolism is there.]]
** In the book [[spoiler: The Girl/Irene Adler is not the Devil, but still a fallen angel, and Corso is a normal human haunted by tragedy in his life and his ancestor's. In the film, either character can be seen as the Devil. Kind of like how the three books each hold some answers.]]
30th Aug '13 12:44:59 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* FridgeBrilliance: After the end of the movie, you realize that [[spoiler:The Girl is the Devil and has chosen Corso for the gift of the power since the beginning.]] Alternate interpretation: [[spoiler: Corso is actually Satan and has undergone a XanatosRoulette and MemoryGambit to return to heaven. The book is supposed to "raise the devil" and so it does, by showing him the way back home.]]

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* FridgeBrilliance: After FridgeBrilliance:
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the end of the movie, you realize that [[spoiler:The Girl is the Devil and has chosen Corso for the gift of the power since the beginning.]] ]]
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Alternate interpretation: [[spoiler: Corso is actually Satan and has undergone a XanatosRoulette and MemoryGambit to return to heaven. The book is supposed to "raise the devil" and so it does, by showing him the way back home.]]
3rd Jun '13 5:14:36 PM Sheora
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* ''TheNinthGate'' had everyone I know making that noise Scooby-Doo makes when he's confused. And sometime later, the ending hit me: The girl was {{Satan}} herself, and Korso had found the ninth gate and used it. --@/{{Indigo}}

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* ''TheNinthGate'' ''The Ninth Gate'' had everyone I know making that noise Scooby-Doo makes when he's confused. And sometime later, the ending hit me: The girl was {{Satan}} herself, and Korso had found the ninth gate and used it. --@/{{Indigo}}
12th Apr '13 1:10:47 PM JudeReed
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*** When did they? The only Spanish was being spoken by the Spanish Ceneza brothers in Toledo, Spain, to my recollection at least. I don't recall any Spanish during the short time Corso was in Portugal seeing Vargas.
11th Apr '13 1:52:34 PM CaptEquinox
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** Some fan discussions point to the final engraving as showing the Whore of Babylon riding on the 7-headed beast out in front of a flaming castle, so they think The Girl is her.
16th Mar '13 10:16:41 PM fausto
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** There's another possible interperetation of the film (though not necessarily the book) in that the ninth gate really had nothing to do with Satan. According to this theory, the "Lucifer" referred to as the author of the delomelanocon referred to the name's literal translation of "Lightbringer," and not the demon of Christian mythology. The engravings serve as a map of consciousness, a la the Kaballah, and lead down two separate paths, one a path of greed and self destruction which ends in flames, and the other, a true path to enlightenment. Aristide Torchia (and by extension, all those who interperet the material as Satanic) follows the negative path and dies as a result. Dean Corso somehow ends up on the right path, and achieves transendance.
10th Aug '12 8:36:45 AM zrice03
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*** Books during the era were printed on extremely heavy paper or vellum, not mere pulp, with bone spines (hence the name "spine") and leather covers, smoking and drinking near them is probably the lightest they were treated in their entire life.

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*** Books during the era were printed on extremely heavy paper or vellum, not mere pulp, with bone spines (hence the name "spine") and leather covers, smoking and drinking near them is probably the lightest they were treated in their entire life. life.
** TruthInTelevision: Real old books are commonly handled without any gloves (though smoking and drinking around them are definitely not allowed), because wearing gloves leads to loss of tactile function, which could actually lead to inadvertently tearing pages or damaging the book. Furthermore, if a book happens to get damaged, it's often repairable.
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