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* Did Lock, Shock and Barrel actually bring the Easter Bunny home when Jack told them to after capturing him instead of Santa? Given how readily they disobeyed Jack after he told them to leave Oogie Boogie out of it, who's to say they didn't just dump him to Oogie's lair too (or worse) before fetching the real Santa?
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** And since the inhabitants are already ghosts, of course, Jack's idea of Christmas is perfect for them!
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** In the town meeting song, the Monster from the Black Lagoon guesses that a present is "the head that I found in the lake" - later on, a child does in fact get a shrunken head as a Christmas present, so [[BrickJoke maybe that was the same head he was singing about]].
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** And why does Halloween Town have both a King and a Mayor? Because it's the ''capital" of Halloween. Many capital cities often tend to have a head of state (either a monarch, a president, a governor, or a prime minister) rule the greater area, while the mayor is only charge of the city itself.
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** And why does Halloween Town have both a King and a Mayor? Because it's the ''capital" ''capital'' of Halloween. Many capital cities often tend to have a head of state (either a monarch, a president, a governor, or a prime minister) rule the greater area, while the mayor is only charge of the city itself.
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** And why does Halloween Town have both a King and a Mayor? Because it's the ''capital" of Halloween. Many capital cities often tend to have a head of state (either a monarch, a president, a governor, or a prime minister) rule the greater area, while the mayor is only charge of the city itself.
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* Jack and Sally falling in love with each other makes a lot of sense if you think about it: Jack is known as the Pumpkin King; the king of Halloween, and he's worshipped in town for it. But that's the thing: it's all everyone in town knows him as, so it's always Halloween every single day, meaning he can't have an actual conversation with anyone without it being about the holiday. Heck, he went away for ''two days'' and that was enough for everyone to start panicking and not know what to do. Given this, it's reasonable to assume Jack has never gotten to take a break since he's always being pestered about next Halloween every time he's out in public. Sally, meanwhile, actually took the time to get to know Jack as a person and likes him for reasons beyond his title. It's likely Jack realized Sally was the only one in town who actually understood him and saw him as someone other than just the Halloween guy, and it only took almost ruining Christmas for him to realize this.
** Another reason could be that Jack realized Sally trying to stop his Christmas plan was out of genuine worry and concern, while everyone else just treated it as yet another Halloween. The fact that he could actually talk to Sally about what was on his mind without bringing up the holiday probably also helped.
** Another reason could be that Jack realized Sally trying to stop his Christmas plan was out of genuine worry and concern, while everyone else just treated it as yet another Halloween. The fact that he could actually talk to Sally about what was on his mind without bringing up the holiday probably also helped.
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** Jack explicitly tells the three to "leave Oogie Boogie out of this", meaning he knows full well that Oogie's bad news. And he ''immediately'' realizes what's up when he hears Sally's scream from Oogie's lair. How could he have possibly known how bad Oogie is unless it happened before to someone else? And it's likely Jack wasn't able to save them since he didn't know how far Oogie was willing to go the first time around...
*** It gets even more disturbing when you take into account that Oogie had killed ''multiple'' people before to the point where everyone in town knows he's bad news. Yet Jack ''still'' either didn't or ''couldn't'' get him to leave town.
*** It gets even more disturbing when you take into account that Oogie had killed ''multiple'' people before to the point where everyone in town knows he's bad news. Yet Jack ''still'' either didn't or ''couldn't'' get him to leave town.
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** Another reason is that most of the people in Halloweentown are ''undead'', so they can't actually die since, you know, they already are. Jack removes his head near the beginning of the movie and falls several thousand feet from the sky near the end no worse for wear, and when Sally throws herself out of a tower and falls apart, she simply wakes up after a few seconds and puts herself back together. It's possible Lock, Shock, and Barrel assumed Santa would abide by the same rules since everyone else in town is capable of being completely fine after experiencing a mortal injury that would kill a normal person. They probably thought that even if Oogie killed Santa, he would simply wake up and put himself back together, not realizing death is an entirely different thing to people who aren't already undead or supernatural in some way.
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** Another reason is that most of the people in Halloweentown are ''undead'', so they can't actually die since, you know, they already are. Jack removes his head near the beginning of the movie and falls several thousand feet from the sky near the end no worse for wear, and when Sally throws herself out of a tower and falls apart, she simply wakes up after a few seconds and puts herself back together. It's possible Lock, Shock, and Barrel assumed Santa would abide by the same rules since everyone else in town is capable of being completely fine after experiencing a mortal injury that would kill a normal person. They probably thought that even if Oogie killed Santa, he would simply wake up and put himself back together, no worse for wear, not realizing death is an entirely different thing to people who aren't already undead or supernatural in some way.way. Thus, they would have seen it as a prank to scare him rather than believing he was genuinely in any danger.
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** Another reason is that most of the people in Halloweentown are ''undead'', so they can't actually die since, you know, they already are. Jack removes his head near the beginning of the movie and falls several thousand feet from the sky near the end no worse for wear, and when Sally throws herself out of a tower and falls apart, she simply wakes up after a few seconds and puts herself back together. It's possible Lock, Shock, and Barrel assumed Santa would abide by the same rules since everyone else in town is capable of being completely fine after experiencing a mortal injury that would kill a normal person. They probably thought that even if Oogie killed Santa, he would simply wake up and put himself back together, not realizing death is an entirely different thing to people who aren't already undead or supernatural in some way.
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Because he actively tries to murder people.l whereas everyone else in Halloween Town scares only for entertainment. If that is Bug Day morality, it makes sense why it ceased to be.
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* Pretty much everyone views Oogie Boogie as the only EVIL person in Halloween Town, but remember: he's not actually from there. He's from a completely different holiday and as such is also an example of BlueAndOrangeMorality. He's not evil, he's just following Bug Day morality! After all, if the Halloween Town folks can be excused for not realizing their idea of fun would be dangerous to other people and enjoying the mayhem they cause, why should Oogie get condemned for it?
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* "Jack, please, I'm only an elected official, I can't make decisions on my own!" Of course he can't; he's only the Mayor. Jack is the '''King''', and therefore holds all the ''real'' power in Halloween Town.
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* Santa uses his magic to fly out of Boogie's lair when Jack rescues him. Couldn't he have just flown himself and Sally to safety? Does he need his hat to do magic? Does he need to touch his nose, and Oogie was being DangerouslyGenreSavvy by tying his hands together?
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* Santa uses his magic to fly out of Boogie's lair when Jack rescues him. Couldn't he have just flown himself and Sally to safety? Does he need his hat to do magic? Does he need to touch his nose, and Oogie was being DangerouslyGenreSavvy savvy by tying his hands together?
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* Santa uses his magic to fly out of Boogie's lair when Jack rescues him. Couldn't he have just flown himself and Sally to safety? Doe3s he need his hat to do magic? Does he need to touch his nose, and Oogie was being DangerouslyGenrySavvy by tying his hands together?
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* Santa uses his magic to fly out of Boogie's lair when Jack rescues him. Couldn't he have just flown himself and Sally to safety? Doe3s Does he need his hat to do magic? Does he need to touch his nose, and Oogie was being DangerouslyGenrySavvy DangerouslyGenreSavvy by tying his hands together?
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* Jack's speaking voice during the town meeting is much more dramatic than the voice he uses when away from the public (best heard in the line "There's got to be a logical way to understand this Christmas thing"). It's implied that his more boisterous posh voice is a put-on. It makes his exhaustion with the holiday all the more reasonable, too: he's sick of putting on a strong facade while bored out of his [[JustForPun skull]] by it.
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* Jack's speaking voice during the town meeting is much more dramatic than the voice he uses when away from the public (best heard in the line "There's got to be a logical way to understand this Christmas thing"). It's implied that his more boisterous posh voice is a put-on. It makes his exhaustion with the holiday all the more reasonable, too: he's sick of putting on a strong facade while bored out of his [[JustForPun skull]] skull by it.
