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* I always thought that Galadriel giving Gimli three locks of her hair was kind, but I really never thought much about it. Then I was reading through the ''Literature/UnfinishedTales'' and read about the description of her hair and how the Eldar believed that the light of the Two Trees were ensnared in it and how Feanor was attracted to it, yet she refused to give him any lock. Some of the Eldar believed that her hair inspired Feanor to create the Silmarils. So it was a very great honor that she gave Gimli not one, but three locks of her hair.

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* I always thought that Galadriel giving Gimli three locks of her hair was kind, but I really never thought much about it. Then I was reading through the ''Literature/UnfinishedTales'' ''Literature/{{Unfinished Tales|of Numenor and Middleearth}}'' and read about the description of her hair and how the Eldar believed that the light of the Two Trees were ensnared in it and how Feanor was attracted to it, yet she refused to give him any lock. Some of the Eldar believed that her hair inspired Feanor to create the Silmarils. So it was a very great honor that she gave Gimli not one, but three locks of her hair.
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* There's european folklore explaining you have to kill a wizard three times to keep him dead. Interestingly, Saruman in the movie is stabbed with a knife, falls from a great height, and impaled on a spike. Naturally, an actor famous for playing Dracula gets impaled right in the chest...

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* There's european folklore explaining you have to kill a wizard three times to keep him dead. Interestingly, Saruman in the movie is stabbed with a knife, falls from a great height, and impaled on a spike. Naturally, an actor famous for playing Dracula gets impaled right in the chest...chest...
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* In the Extended version scene in the Paths of the Dead, there are a ''lot'' more skulls buried there than actual ghosts. Where did they all come from?
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** In the book, Pippin has a somewhat funny conversation where Pippin assumes a boy asking about him because he's young for a hobbit rather than because the boy is mistaking him for someone ''his'' age.
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*** So, also being half human, Eldarion should be fully grown after about thirty years. If the thing with childhood friends being retired by the time he hit puberty, remember that King Elessar also had (apparently) countless daughters, so there were people there growing as fast as him.
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* I read ''Lord of the Rings'' when I was young and loved it. Saw the movies, loved them. A year ago, I read the Silmarillion, and then suddenly the whole sequence with Shelob, already HighOctaneNightmareFuel, becomes both a hundred times more intense and very symmetrical. The draining, total darkness in Shelob's lair isn't an absence of light, but Shelob is quite literally excreting darkness as its own material just like her mother Ungoliant. Also, the light of Earendil, which is the light of a Silmaril, shines through that darkness. When Ungoliant devoured the first trees, Feanor refused to allow the use of the Silmarils to restore them.

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* I read ''Lord of the Rings'' when I was young and loved it. Saw the movies, loved them. A year ago, I read the Silmarillion, ''Silmarillion'', and then suddenly the whole sequence with Shelob, already HighOctaneNightmareFuel, becomes both a hundred times more intense and very symmetrical. The draining, total darkness in Shelob's lair isn't an absence of light, but Shelob is quite literally excreting darkness as its own material just like her mother Ungoliant. Also, the light of Earendil, which is the light of a Silmaril, shines through that darkness. When Ungoliant devoured the first trees, Feanor refused to allow the use of the Silmarils to restore them.



* I always thought that Galadriel giving Gimli three locks of her hair was kind, but I really never thought much about it. Then I was reading through the Unfinished Tales and read about the description of her hair and how the Eldar believed that the light of the Two Trees were ensnared in it and how Feanor was attracted to it, yet she refused to give him any lock. Some of the Eldar believed that her hair inspired Feanor to create the Silmarils. So it was a very great honor that she gave Gimli not one, but three locks of her hair.

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* I always thought that Galadriel giving Gimli three locks of her hair was kind, but I really never thought much about it. Then I was reading through the Unfinished Tales ''Literature/UnfinishedTales'' and read about the description of her hair and how the Eldar believed that the light of the Two Trees were ensnared in it and how Feanor was attracted to it, yet she refused to give him any lock. Some of the Eldar believed that her hair inspired Feanor to create the Silmarils. So it was a very great honor that she gave Gimli not one, but three locks of her hair.
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** Well, except for Sam. He carried/wore it while Frodo was being held prisoner in the tower.
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* At first the impact of the ring on Frodo seems rather extreme, but aside from Bilbo who only handles it before Sauron's rise to power, and Gollum (and look what happened to him), Frodo is the only one to ever '''touch''' the ring. Everyone else just comes close to touching it, then pulls away or is forced away somehow.

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* At first the impact of the ring on Frodo seems rather extreme, but aside from Bilbo who only handles it before Sauron's rise to power, and Gollum (and look what happened to him), Frodo is the only one to ever '''touch''' the ring. Everyone else just comes close to touching it, then pulls away or is forced away somehow.somehow.
* There's european folklore explaining you have to kill a wizard three times to keep him dead. Interestingly, Saruman in the movie is stabbed with a knife, falls from a great height, and impaled on a spike. Naturally, an actor famous for playing Dracula gets impaled right in the chest...
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** Hobbits live to be in their mid-nineties on average, where the non-Numenorian human average is about 70. Pippin would have been about 21 in Hobbit-years. Hobbits are more childlike than humans partly because of their longevity, but also partly because of their relatively easy lives and laid-back culture. They don't come of age until about the equivalent of 24.

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* Denethor's madness wasn't just because of Faramir's injury and the Palantir's visions of the power of Mordor. The Palantir also showed him things that caused him to believe
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* Denethor's madness wasn't just because of Faramir's injury and the Palantir's visions of the power of Mordor. The Palantir also showed him things that caused him to believe
believe Frodo had been captured and Sauron had obtained the ring:
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** The West is sometimes compared to death. Sam waited until old age to leave the world naturally. Frodo returned from a war to make the decision to leave almost immediately. In a sense, Sam "died" of old age, while Frodo committed suicide.
*** Actually, Sam too left to the West. But only after many years of prosperity in the Shire (and a butt-load of kids).
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-->"Comfort me not with wizards!" said Denethor. "The fool's hope has failed. '''The Enemy as found it, and now his power waxes'''; he sees our very thoughts, and all we do is ruinous."

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-->"Comfort me not with wizards!" said Denethor. "The fool's hope has failed. '''The Enemy as has found it, and now his power waxes'''; he sees our very thoughts, and all we do is ruinous."

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** On the same vein Denethor's madness actually makes more sense, He was right about Frodo yet couldn't count on Gollum. One of the details the movie oversights heavily.

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** On the same vein * Denethor's madness actually makes more sense, He was right about Frodo yet couldn't count on Gollum. One wasn't just because of Faramir's injury and the Palantir's visions of the details power of Mordor. The Palantir also showed him things that caused him to believe
Frodo had been captured and Sauron had obtained
the movie oversights heavily.ring:
-->"Comfort me not with wizards!" said Denethor. "The fool's hope has failed. '''The Enemy as found it, and now his power waxes'''; he sees our very thoughts, and all we do is ruinous."
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** I read ''Lord of the Rings'' when I was young and loved it. Saw the movies, loved them. A year ago, I read the Silmarillion, and then suddenly the whole sequence with Shelob, already HighOctaneNightmareFuel, becomes both a hundred times more intense and very symmetrical. The draining, total darkness in Shelob's lair isn't an absence of light, but Shelob is quite literally excreting darkness as its own material just like her mother Ungoliant. Also, the light of Earendil, which is the light of a Silmaril, shines through that darkness. When Ungoliant devoured the first trees, Feanor refused to allow the use of the Silmarils to restore them.
** While rewatching "The Return of the King," I sobbed so hard at the end that I had to turn the movie off; the whole experience was just emotionally draining, and I couldn't bear to watch Sam go home to the cute little Shire after all he and Frodo had been through in Mordor. Then, while rereading the book, I realized that that was the same reason Frodo needed to leave Middle Earth; the experience had taken so much out of him that he simply couldn't return to the Shire. O.o It was a very emotional weekend all around.

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** * I read ''Lord of the Rings'' when I was young and loved it. Saw the movies, loved them. A year ago, I read the Silmarillion, and then suddenly the whole sequence with Shelob, already HighOctaneNightmareFuel, becomes both a hundred times more intense and very symmetrical. The draining, total darkness in Shelob's lair isn't an absence of light, but Shelob is quite literally excreting darkness as its own material just like her mother Ungoliant. Also, the light of Earendil, which is the light of a Silmaril, shines through that darkness. When Ungoliant devoured the first trees, Feanor refused to allow the use of the Silmarils to restore them.
** * While rewatching "The Return of the King," I sobbed so hard at the end that I had to turn the movie off; the whole experience was just emotionally draining, and I couldn't bear to watch Sam go home to the cute little Shire after all he and Frodo had been through in Mordor. Then, while rereading the book, I realized that that was the same reason Frodo needed to leave Middle Earth; the experience had taken so much out of him that he simply couldn't return to the Shire. O.o It was a very emotional weekend all around.



** I always thought that Galadriel giving Gimli three locks of her hair was kind, but I really never thought much about it. Then I was reading through the Unfinished Tales and read about the description of her hair and how the Eldar believed that the light of the Two Trees were ensnared in it and how Feanor was attracted to it, yet she refused to give him any lock. Some of the Eldar believed that her hair inspired Feanor to create the Silmarils. So it was a very great honor that she gave Gimli not one, but three locks of her hair.
*** It sort of mirrors her CharacterDevelopment: she starts off a prideful Noldorin princess, setting out to forge her own land in Beleriand. By the end of the Third Age, she is [[DefrostingIceQueen mature and wise]] enough to not only turn down the Ring, but graciously gift something as trivial as a lock of hair (or three) to a traditional enemy of the Eldar. Seems plausible that she wanted to mend relations between the Dwarves and Elves partly because she saw how [[TheSilmarillion King Thingol's]] pride was his downfall in regards to the Dwarves.
** Pippin's immaturity and the fact that he's ruled by his impulses makes a lot more sense when you taken into account that he is still a child by hobbit standards. Hobbits come of age at thirty-three, and Pippin is twenty-nine during the events of the trilogy, so he's not a small child, but in way of physical and emotional maturity, he's in the 14-16 age range. All of the other hobbits are adults (in Merry's case, a very young adult), but Pippin's still a teenager. --{{ncfan}}
** Aragorn's alias Thorongil is a combination of his father's - Ara''thorn'' - and his mother's - ''Gil''raen - names. --{{lordleycester}}
** Only after reading it on some forum, I realised that Sauron was actually right about the Ring - Noone could have destroyed it! All those eagles visions would fail – no one would thrown the Ring into fire - Sauron didn't even need to protect the cracks - even Frodo, who was specifically suited to be least affected by the ring, was incapable of destroying it. It took several twists of fate and coincidences, also known as Eru ex Machina, to destroy One Ring - something that could not be predicted by Sauron
*** On the same vein Denethor's madness actually makes more sense, He was right about Frodo yet couldn't count on Gollum. One of the details the movie oversights heavily.

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** * I always thought that Galadriel giving Gimli three locks of her hair was kind, but I really never thought much about it. Then I was reading through the Unfinished Tales and read about the description of her hair and how the Eldar believed that the light of the Two Trees were ensnared in it and how Feanor was attracted to it, yet she refused to give him any lock. Some of the Eldar believed that her hair inspired Feanor to create the Silmarils. So it was a very great honor that she gave Gimli not one, but three locks of her hair.
*** ** It sort of mirrors her CharacterDevelopment: she starts off a prideful Noldorin princess, setting out to forge her own land in Beleriand. By the end of the Third Age, she is [[DefrostingIceQueen mature and wise]] enough to not only turn down the Ring, but graciously gift something as trivial as a lock of hair (or three) to a traditional enemy of the Eldar. Seems plausible that she wanted to mend relations between the Dwarves and Elves partly because she saw how [[TheSilmarillion King Thingol's]] pride was his downfall in regards to the Dwarves.
** * Pippin's immaturity and the fact that he's ruled by his impulses makes a lot more sense when you taken into account that he is still a child by hobbit standards. Hobbits come of age at thirty-three, and Pippin is twenty-nine during the events of the trilogy, so he's not a small child, but in way of physical and emotional maturity, he's in the 14-16 age range. All of the other hobbits are adults (in Merry's case, a very young adult), but Pippin's still a teenager. --{{ncfan}}
** * Aragorn's alias Thorongil is a combination of his father's - Ara''thorn'' - and his mother's - ''Gil''raen - names. --{{lordleycester}}
** * Only after reading it on some forum, I realised that Sauron was actually right about the Ring - Noone no one could have destroyed it! All those eagles visions would fail – no one would thrown the Ring into fire - Sauron didn't even need to protect the cracks - even Frodo, who was specifically suited to be least affected by the ring, was incapable of destroying it. It took several twists of fate and coincidences, also known as Eru ex Machina, to destroy One Ring - something that could not be predicted by Sauron
*** ** On the same vein Denethor's madness actually makes more sense, He was right about Frodo yet couldn't count on Gollum. One of the details the movie oversights heavily.
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** Eowyn and Merry are developmentally the same age; she is 23 and Merry is 47, (since hobbits' life cycles are about twice as long as that of humans); meanwhile Faramir and Pippin are both, in a sense, little brothers.

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!!The Films***In Morgoth's Ring, chapter "Laws and customs among the Eldar" (Unfinished writings edited by Christopher Tolkien). Elves are fully grown by their 100th year and hit puberty somewhere between that age and 50 years.
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** Where is it ever indicated that Elven children take longer to reach adulthood?

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*Aragorn's son is half-elven; so his childhood will be roughly 60-70 years long. He grows up in Gondor, so, all of his friends will grow old and die before he even reaches adulthood.
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** The effect incidentally was created by using a very strong magnet under the floor. It's meant to express the Ring's symbolic weight, both in importance to the Middle-Earth's fate and as a burden on Bilbo's, and later Frodo's shoulders. In ''The Return of the King'' you can actually see scars on Frodo's neck, caused by chafing of the chain due to the Ring's heaviness.
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** This is supported by the fact that, according to Tolkien's timeline, Elrond was in his forties when the First Age ended, and he chose the path of immortality.
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* The scene near the start where Bilbo drops the Ring is one that is very, very unsettling. Something's not right, but you can't quite put your finger on it. Later, usually on another watching, you finally realize what it is: It does not bounce. It simply falls and stops. It's a fantastic underscore to the fact that the Ring is ''very'' unnatural.

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* The scene near the start where Bilbo drops the Ring is one that is very, very unsettling. Something's not right, but you can't quite put your finger on it. Later, usually on another watching, you finally realize what it is: It does not bounce. It simply falls and stops. It's a fantastic underscore to the fact that the Ring is ''very'' unnatural.unnatural.
* At first the impact of the ring on Frodo seems rather extreme, but aside from Bilbo who only handles it before Sauron's rise to power, and Gollum (and look what happened to him), Frodo is the only one to ever '''touch''' the ring. Everyone else just comes close to touching it, then pulls away or is forced away somehow.
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** Elves do grow old ("grow weary", [[WordOfGod Tolkien said]]), it just takes millennia. Cirdan was described to have looked like a very old Man, with a great white beard. (He was over 16,000 years old by then.) Elrond had been born in the late First Age and [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld was about 6,500 years old]] by the War of The Ring.
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----* The scene near the start where Bilbo drops the Ring is one that is very, very unsettling. Something's not right, but you can't quite put your finger on it. Later, usually on another watching, you finally realize what it is: It does not bounce. It simply falls and stops. It's a fantastic underscore to the fact that the Ring is ''very'' unnatural.
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** It could also be due the fact that he is a Ring-bearer, and that the stress of that alone (never mind the warrior's life he's led as a king of the Elves) has its toll on him. Galadriel shows it less by virtue of her being a full, High Elf.
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** I always took it to be a moment of, "Oh, Rohan sent a few guys on horseback. Easy targets. Wait, there's a few more behind them. And a few more behind them. Wait, there's how many? And they're not turning back from our arrow barrages? HOLY SH-(squish).
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** Only after reading it on some forum, I realised that Sauron was actually right about the Ring - Noone could have destroyed it! All those eagles visions would fail – no one would thrown the RIng into fire - Sauron didn't even need to protect the cracks - even Frodo, who was specifically suited to be least affected by the ring, was incapable of destroying it. It took several twists of fate and coincidences, also known as Eru ex Machina, to destroy One Ring - something that could not be predicted by Sauron

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** Only after reading it on some forum, I realised that Sauron was actually right about the Ring - Noone could have destroyed it! All those eagles visions would fail – no one would thrown the RIng Ring into fire - Sauron didn't even need to protect the cracks - even Frodo, who was specifically suited to be least affected by the ring, was incapable of destroying it. It took several twists of fate and coincidences, also known as Eru ex Machina, to destroy One Ring - something that could not be predicted by Sauron
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\n*** On the same vein Denethor's madness actually makes more sense, He was right about Frodo yet couldn't count on Gollum. One of the details the movie oversights heavily.
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* While the charge of the Rohirrim has always struck me as one of the most epic movie moments ever, I thought it was slightly deflated by the ridiculous reaction shot of the stunned Orc commander. He couldn't really believe that three volleys of arrow fire would turn back the charge, could he? But then I realized that from his position at the bottom of the hill, he couldn't see the vastness of the Rohirrim army. He couldn't imagine that Rohan could field a much larger force than the one Gondor sent to attempt to retake Osgiliath, which he had easily slaughtered. For Rohan to commit so many troops to the battle, they would have to leave their own lands undefended for the benefit of an ally, a risk that he couldn't imagine taking. So he's stunned not just by the fearlessness of the charge, but by the fact that so many Rohirrim are there at all!
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* It always bothered me that Elrond, a supposedly ageless elf, is played by the visibly balding Hugo Weaving, while all the other (equally ageless) elves in the movies have full hair. Then I remembered that, according to ''{{Silmarillion}}'', Elrond is a ''half-elf''. Perhaps he'd already started to bald (a trait inherited from the human side of his family) before he reached the "ageless" stage of his life cycle?

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* It always bothered me that Elrond, a supposedly ageless elf, is played by the visibly balding Hugo Weaving, while all the other (equally ageless) elves in the movies have full hair. Then I remembered that, according to ''{{Silmarillion}}'', Elrond is a ''half-elf''. Perhaps he'd already started to bald (a trait inherited from the human side of his family) before he reached the "ageless" stage of in his life cycle?
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* It always bothered me that Elrond, a supposedly ageless elf, is played by the visibly balding Hugo Weaving, while all the other (equally ageless) elves in the movies have full hair. Then I remembered that, according to ''{{Silmarillion}}'', Elrond is a ''half-elf''. Perhaps he'd already started to bald (a trait inherited from the human side of his family) before he reached the "ageless" stage of his life cycle?
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* ''TheLordOfTheRings'' does this to me on a semi-regular basis, but the one that I realized this morning is so simple that it should have struck me years ago: nine members of the fellowship, nine black riders, nine rings... and nine fingers on Frodo's hands when he finishes his journey. In the end, ''everything'' bows to symbolism.
** Sauron also has nine fingers after the one with the ring gets cut off.
** I read ''Lord of the Rings'' when I was young and loved it. Saw the movies, loved them. A year ago, I read the Silmarillion, and then suddenly the whole sequence with Shelob, already HighOctaneNightmareFuel, becomes both a hundred times more intense and very symmetrical. The draining, total darkness in Shelob's lair isn't an absence of light, but Shelob is quite literally excreting darkness as its own material just like her mother Ungoliant. Also, the light of Earendil, which is the light of a Silmaril, shines through that darkness. When Ungoliant devoured the first trees, Feanor refused to allow the use of the Silmarils to restore them.
** While rewatching "The Return of the King," I sobbed so hard at the end that I had to turn the movie off; the whole experience was just emotionally draining, and I couldn't bear to watch Sam go home to the cute little Shire after all he and Frodo had been through in Mordor. Then, while rereading the book, I realized that that was the same reason Frodo needed to leave Middle Earth; the experience had taken so much out of him that he simply couldn't return to the Shire. O.o It was a very emotional weekend all around.
** Now that I think about it, I remember that soldiers with PTSD often have trouble adjusting to life back home after returning from a war. Frodo gets away from this by leaving the world entirely.
*** Considering the fact that Tolkien wrote Frodo and Sam (and the whole story, really) with his experiences of war in mind, this works beautifully. Tolkien likely knew men who came home with these symptoms.
** The West is sometimes compared to death. Sam waited until old age to leave the world naturally. Frodo returned from a war to make the decision to leave almost immediately. In a sense, Sam "died" of old age, while Frodo committed suicide.
*** Actually, Sam too left to the West. But only after many years of prosperity in the Shire (and a butt-load of kids).
** I always thought that Galadriel giving Gimli three locks of her hair was kind, but I really never thought much about it. Then I was reading through the Unfinished Tales and read about the description of her hair and how the Eldar believed that the light of the Two Trees were ensnared in it and how Feanor was attracted to it, yet she refused to give him any lock. Some of the Eldar believed that her hair inspired Feanor to create the Silmarils. So it was a very great honor that she gave Gimli not one, but three locks of her hair.
*** It sort of mirrors her CharacterDevelopment: she starts off a prideful Noldorin princess, setting out to forge her own land in Beleriand. By the end of the Third Age, she is [[DefrostingIceQueen mature and wise]] enough to not only turn down the Ring, but graciously gift something as trivial as a lock of hair (or three) to a traditional enemy of the Eldar. Seems plausible that she wanted to mend relations between the Dwarves and Elves partly because she saw how [[TheSilmarillion King Thingol's]] pride was his downfall in regards to the Dwarves.
** Pippin's immaturity and the fact that he's ruled by his impulses makes a lot more sense when you taken into account that he is still a child by hobbit standards. Hobbits come of age at thirty-three, and Pippin is twenty-nine during the events of the trilogy, so he's not a small child, but in way of physical and emotional maturity, he's in the 14-16 age range. All of the other hobbits are adults (in Merry's case, a very young adult), but Pippin's still a teenager. --{{ncfan}}
** Aragorn's alias Thorongil is a combination of his father's - Ara''thorn'' - and his mother's - ''Gil''raen - names. --{{lordleycester}}
** Only after reading it on some forum, I realised that Sauron was actually right about the Ring - Noone could have destroyed it! All those eagles visions would fail – no one would thrown the RIng into fire - Sauron didn't even need to protect the cracks - even Frodo, who was specifically suited to be least affected by the ring, was incapable of destroying it. It took several twists of fate and coincidences, also known as Eru ex Machina, to destroy One Ring - something that could not be predicted by Sauron


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