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* This may be a bit of a stretch, but remember [[Quotes/TheConversionBureau that citation on the quotes page for ''The Conversion Bureau'']] which suggested that the world of TheDraka (itself often considered one of the few things worse than anything found in ''Warhammer40K'', horrific afterlife notwithstanding) would still be preferable to that of a typical TCB setting? Well, let's take this one step further by comparing it to the universe of Creator/PeterWatts's ''Literature/{{Blindsight}}'', possibly the most depressing science-fiction novel ever written. (The fact that the book opens with the dedication "If we are not in pain, we are not alive" says a lot about the author's worldview.) In a CosmicHorrorStory where a crew of transhuman astronauts are sent to make FirstContact with an alien vessel, you expect a message about humanity being ill-suited to survive in the black gulf of space, but here, it isn't for the reasons you'd think:

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* This may be a bit of a stretch, but remember [[Quotes/TheConversionBureau that citation on the quotes page for ''The Conversion Bureau'']] which suggested that the world of TheDraka (itself often considered one of the few things worse than anything found in ''Warhammer40K'', ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', horrific afterlife notwithstanding) would still be preferable to that of a typical TCB setting? Well, let's take this one step further by comparing it to the universe of Creator/PeterWatts's ''Literature/{{Blindsight}}'', possibly the most depressing science-fiction novel ever written. (The fact that the book opens with the dedication "If we are not in pain, we are not alive" says a lot about the author's worldview.) In a CosmicHorrorStory where a crew of transhuman astronauts are sent to make FirstContact with an alien vessel, you expect a message about humanity being ill-suited to survive in the black gulf of space, but here, it isn't for the reasons you'd think:



* With the existence of other universes confirmed thanks to the Queen [[spoiler: and Discord]], you can't help but wonder just [[TheDraka what]] [[{{Videogame/Resistance}} else]] [[{{Videogame/Half-Life}} is]] [[Warhammer40K out]] [[{{SCPFOUNDATION}} there]] [[ParanoiaFuel just waiting to finish off whoever is left standing after the war.]] Be it [[KickTheDog humanity]] ''or'' [[EvilVersusEvil the Solar Empire]].

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* With the existence of other universes confirmed thanks to the Queen [[spoiler: and Discord]], you can't help but wonder just [[TheDraka what]] [[{{Videogame/Resistance}} else]] [[{{Videogame/Half-Life}} is]] [[Warhammer40K [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} out]] [[{{SCPFOUNDATION}} there]] [[ParanoiaFuel just waiting to finish off whoever is left standing after the war.]] Be it [[KickTheDog humanity]] ''or'' [[EvilVersusEvil the Solar Empire]].
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\n** It's possible that the earlier versions of the potions required ingestion to be effective. But even then, it seems to be a psychological warfare tactic to disturb their opponents.

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\n* Why do Imperial ponies and PER ever bother force-feeding potion to potential victims when a single drop to the skin is all that's needed?

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* A bit milder than most examples listed here, but with a bit of trickery, Queen Celestia tricked humans into thinking magic was toxic for them even if it wasn't used offensively. As a result, you can imagine how much research into {{Magitek}} was stunted simply from what turned out to be entirely unnecessary safety procedures, or how many life-saving medical spells went unused simply due to misinformation.
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** I was referring to using nerve agents, chemical weapons, and biological weapons on either the hoards of Newfoals themselves or the Royal Guard.
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** Further [[AscendedFridgeHorror elaborated on]] in ''The Light Despondent'' in which reports made by PHL spies note that primates closely related to humans and more intelligent (though unspecified) sea mammals are also killed by The Barrier. More mentions are made of slaughtering predatory and "unruly" wildlife, with "safaris" consisting of ''thousands'' of ponies participating in mass extermination.

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** Further [[AscendedFridgeHorror elaborated on]] in ''The Light Despondent'' in which reports made by PHL spies note that primates closely related to humans and more intelligent (though unspecified) sea mammals are also killed by The the Barrier. More mentions are made of Equestrian colonists slaughtering predatory and "unruly" wildlife, with "safaris" consisting of ''thousands'' of ponies participating in mass extermination.



** Becomes AscendedFridgeHorror in ''Last Train from Oblivion'' in which an Equestrian soldier--skeptical about the very concept of nuclear physics--learns from a comrade about "Black Zones," areas on Equestrian-occupied-Earth where ponies develop radiation sickness from settling on or near the former sites of nuclear power plants.

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** Becomes AscendedFridgeHorror in ''Last Train from Oblivion'' Oblivion'', in which an Equestrian soldier--skeptical soldier, skeptical about the very concept of nuclear physics--learns physics, learns from a comrade about "Black Zones," areas on Equestrian-occupied-Earth Equestria-occupied Earth where ponies develop are suffering from radiation sickness from due to settling on or near the former sites of nuclear power plants.
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** Becomes AscendedFridgeHorror in ''Last Train from Oblivion'' in which an Equestrian soldier--skeptical about the very concept of nuclear physics--learns from a comrade about "Black Zones," areas on Equestrian-occupied-Earth where ponies develop radiation sickness from settling on or near the former sites of nuclear power plants.

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** {{Jossed}}: She has to control the clone herself for it to work efficiently, and there are limits to the Pool's powers as well.



* It's been recently revealed that the story takes place in November. This opens up so many disturbing questions about food production... and how in the hell people survive winters.

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* It's been recently revealed that the main story takes place in November. This opens up so many disturbing questions about food production... and how in the hell people survive winters.


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** Those were created by human hands, so those likely would not have worked anyway.
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* Just what has become of TCB!A.K Yearling ([[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E4DaringDont who actually is Daring Do]])? Is she still in the Empire, or did she escape? Or worse?

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* Just what has become of TCB!A.K Yearling ([[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E4DaringDont who actually is Daring Do]])? Is she still in And for that matter, what happened to all the Empire, or did she escape? Or worse?unmentioned supporting characters?
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** Further [[AscendedFridgeHorror elaborated on]] in ''The Light Despondent'' in which reports made by PHL spies note that primates closely related to humans and more intelligent (though unspecified) sea mammals are also killed by The Barrier. More mentions are made of slaughtering predatory and "unruly" wildlife, with "safaris" consisting of ''thousands'' of ponies participating in mass extermination.

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* Spykoran says that [[spoiler: the Bag of Tirek is using TCB!Celestia like a puppet to carry its maker's will out. Given what we've just found out about the TCB!Mane Six's corruption and imprisonment, could the same thing have happened to TCB!Celestia? Is she also [[AndIMustScream a prisoner in her own mind]], her body used as a tool to carry out the xenocide of humanity and just as powerless to stop it]]?

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* Spykoran says that [[spoiler: the Bag of Tirek is using TCB!Celestia like a puppet to carry its maker's will out. Given what we've just found out about the TCB!Mane Six's corruption and imprisonment, could the same thing have happened to TCB!Celestia? Is she also [[AndIMustScream a prisoner in her own mind]], her body used as a tool to carry out the xenocide of humanity and just as powerless to stop it]]?it]]?
** Apparently {{Jossed}}, if [[spoiler:Discord's]] statement in "Training Days: The First Month" is correct.
-->[[spoiler:"Possession magic like this erodes the victim’s identity away over time. Your counterparts might be able to distinguish between themselves and their tormentors despite their connections, but as for Celestia... well, I'm willing to bet there's nothing left of her original self anymore. It's whittled her best traits to nothing - a need for order without empathy and motherly love, commanding without concern for morality, desire to better her realm with no concern for what she has to do]]."



** There are implications that TCB!Twilight is working on such a potion during "Training Days: The First Month". How successful that will turn out will only be told by time.



*** Most likely because the official military forces and some of the HLF destroyed most of the Bureaus already.

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*** Most likely because the official military forces and some of the HLF destroyed most of the Bureaus already. Plus, every man, woman, and child carries at least one weapon on them.
*** TCB!Fancy Pants does somewhat allude to ponies "herding humans like cattle" to mass convert them.
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* This may be a bit of a stretch, but remember [[Quotes/TheConversionBureau that citation on the quotes page for ''The Conversion Bureau'']] which suggested that the world of TheDraka (itself often considered one of the few things worse than anything found in ''Warhammer40K'', horrific afterlife notwithstanding) would still be preferable to that of a typical TCB setting? Well, let's take this one step further by comparing it to the universe of PeterWatts's ''Literature/{{Blindsight}}'', possibly the most depressing science-fiction novel ever written. (The fact that the book opens with the dedication "If we are not in pain, we are not alive" says a lot about the author's worldview.) In a CosmicHorrorStory where a crew of transhuman astronauts are sent to make FirstContact with an alien vessel, you expect a message about humanity being ill-suited to survive in the black gulf of space, but here, it isn't for the reasons you'd think:

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* This may be a bit of a stretch, but remember [[Quotes/TheConversionBureau that citation on the quotes page for ''The Conversion Bureau'']] which suggested that the world of TheDraka (itself often considered one of the few things worse than anything found in ''Warhammer40K'', horrific afterlife notwithstanding) would still be preferable to that of a typical TCB setting? Well, let's take this one step further by comparing it to the universe of PeterWatts's Creator/PeterWatts's ''Literature/{{Blindsight}}'', possibly the most depressing science-fiction novel ever written. (The fact that the book opens with the dedication "If we are not in pain, we are not alive" says a lot about the author's worldview.) In a CosmicHorrorStory where a crew of transhuman astronauts are sent to make FirstContact with an alien vessel, you expect a message about humanity being ill-suited to survive in the black gulf of space, but here, it isn't for the reasons you'd think:
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* It's been mentioned that the Barrier doesn't negate radiation, nor does it keep it out. How much of the land behind the barrier is uninhabitable because The Barrier basically steamrolled over a bunch of nuclear reactors containing their radioactive rays?
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* It's been recently revealed that the story takes place in November. This opens up so many disturbing questions about food production... and how in the hell people survive winters.
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** [[spoiler: It turns out that the StarfishAlien "scramblers" are intelligent without being sentient – human self-awareness is an evolutionary dead end, causing the zombie-like aliens to interpret concepts picked up from our broadcasts such as "identity", "empathy" and "compassion" as incomprehensible resource-wasting signals akin to a virus. In other words, this is a world where the polar opposite of ''Friendship is Magic'''s philosophy is true, humans are the abominations, and mechanistic lifeforms the norm in a cold, uncaring universe. Now, the scramblers sound a lot like Newfoals ("movin' and talkin' and playin' like it were alive'"), right? But get this – unlike Newfoals, the scramblers are at least thinking, independent beings. And even worse, it's heavily implied that the Newfoals do have some flicker of self left at the back of their minds, [[AndIMustScream constantly enduring the pain of their enslavement]]. In ''{{Blindsight}}'', two of the astronauts contemplate that mankind could be saved from extinction by engineering itself into non-sentience, before dismissing the idea ("But I guess that wouldn't be much of a win, would it? What's the difference between being dead, and just not knowing you're alive?"). Yet ponification is a FateWorseThanDeath]]. So, could the argument be made that Newfoals really are the most twisted creatures ever conceived, and even these aliens would regard them as such?

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** [[spoiler: It turns out that the StarfishAlien "scramblers" are intelligent without being sentient – human self-awareness is an evolutionary dead end, causing the zombie-like aliens to interpret concepts picked up from our broadcasts such as "identity", "empathy" and "compassion" as incomprehensible resource-wasting signals akin to a virus. In other words, this is a world where the polar opposite of ''Friendship is Magic'''s philosophy is true, humans are the abominations, and mechanistic lifeforms the norm in a cold, uncaring universe. Now, the scramblers sound a lot like Newfoals ("movin' and talkin' and playin' like it were alive'"), right? But get this – unlike Newfoals, the scramblers are at least thinking, independent beings. And even worse, it's heavily implied that the Newfoals do have some flicker of self left at the back of their minds, [[AndIMustScream constantly enduring the pain of their enslavement]]. In ''{{Blindsight}}'', ''Literature/{{Blindsight}}'', two of the astronauts contemplate that mankind could be saved from extinction by engineering itself into non-sentience, before dismissing the idea ("But I guess that wouldn't be much of a win, would it? What's the difference between being dead, and just not knowing you're alive?"). Yet ponification is a FateWorseThanDeath]]. So, could the argument be made that Newfoals really are the most twisted creatures ever conceived, and even these aliens would regard them as such?
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* This may be a bit of a stretch, but remember [[Quotes/TheConversionBureau that citation on the quotes page for ''The Conversion Bureau'']] which suggested that the world of TheDraka (itself often considered one of the few things worse than anything found in ''Warhammer40K'', horrific afterlife notwithstanding) would still be preferable to that of a typical TCB setting? Well, let's take this one step further by comparing it to the universe of PeterWatts's ''{{Blindsight}}'', possibly the most depressing science-fiction novel ever written. (The fact that the book opens with the dedication "If we are not in pain, we are not alive" says a lot about the author's worldview.) In a CosmicHorrorStory where a crew of transhuman astronauts are sent to make FirstContact with an alien vessel, you expect a message about humanity being ill-suited to survive in the black gulf of space, but here, it isn't for the reasons you'd think:

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* This may be a bit of a stretch, but remember [[Quotes/TheConversionBureau that citation on the quotes page for ''The Conversion Bureau'']] which suggested that the world of TheDraka (itself often considered one of the few things worse than anything found in ''Warhammer40K'', horrific afterlife notwithstanding) would still be preferable to that of a typical TCB setting? Well, let's take this one step further by comparing it to the universe of PeterWatts's ''{{Blindsight}}'', ''Literature/{{Blindsight}}'', possibly the most depressing science-fiction novel ever written. (The fact that the book opens with the dedication "If we are not in pain, we are not alive" says a lot about the author's worldview.) In a CosmicHorrorStory where a crew of transhuman astronauts are sent to make FirstContact with an alien vessel, you expect a message about humanity being ill-suited to survive in the black gulf of space, but here, it isn't for the reasons you'd think:
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** Perhaps she was too proud [[LetUsNeverSpeakOfThisAGain to tell anyone]] [[HumiliationConga how thoroughly she was pranked?]]
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** One has to wonder indeed about Canon!Equestria Catseye...

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** One has to wonder indeed about Canon!Equestria Catseye...[[AscendedFridgeHorror Addressed]] in the chapter "Training Days Part 1", with a Canon!Royal Guard agreeing with Catseye's views and getting discharged as a result. [[WordOfGod And according to]] [[http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/371720/okay-maybe-a-few-spoilers-but-theyre-very-minor-things Kizuna Tallis]], Catseye and those that agree with her views will play a big role in the story arc as minor villains.
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** Mercifully {{Jossed}} in ''Calm Before the Storm'' in which Coal Embers gets splashed with potion and is ultimately unharmed. However, she mentions feeling absolutely ''filthy'' until it's washed off of her. Was it simply a psychological response to knowing what the potion was capable of when used on humans, or did she unconsciously sense the evil magic that went into its creation?
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** Probably because he wanted to get one on Queen Celestia.


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** Probably because he wanted Because even with the barricade, the newfoals and Royal Guards looking for the two would have spread their search out all over the city and possibly all over the Solar Empire, which would have made staying hidden and eventual escape way more difficult for them. Fancy stayed behind to get one on [[LeaveNoWitnesses kill anyone that could have heard them talk]] and to stall Queen Celestia.

Celestia long enough with the magically enchanted griffon katana-bomb to allow Fleur more time to escape safely.

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** In the Asia side-story, a scene features an HLF man's hazmat suit getting torn to pieces by unicorn magic before he gets potioned.
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* Also counts as an in-universe example: while the newfoals generally little more than mindless drones with very little to no free will, there are a few (like Stalwart Heart and Focus Ray) that do [[EliteMooks possess some degree of intelligence and cunning]]. During her fight with Focus Ray, TCB!Trixie is able to subdue him, and he undergoes an incredibly unsettling VillainousBreakdown. Trixie notes how the pain in his words feels so raw that she wonders if it's from the newfoal itself or from the human underneath [[AndIMustScream begging to be freed from his prison]]. So could a particularly strong willed human that gets turned possess some awareness as to what's going on around them? That does make Stalwart Heart's situation with TCB!Twilight even more disturbing...

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* With the existence of other universes confirmed thanks to the Queen [[spoiler: and Discord]], you can't help but wonder just [[TheDraka what]] [[{{Videogame/Resistance}} else]] [[{{Videogame/Half-Life}} is]] [[Warhammer40K out]] [[{{SCPFOUNDATION}} there]] [[ParanoiaFuel just waiting to finish off whoever is left standing after the war.]] Be it [[KickTheDog Humanity]] OR [[EvilVersusEvil the Solar Empire]].

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** One has to wonder indeed about Canon!Equestria Catseye...
* With the existence of other universes confirmed thanks to the Queen [[spoiler: and Discord]], you can't help but wonder just [[TheDraka what]] [[{{Videogame/Resistance}} else]] [[{{Videogame/Half-Life}} is]] [[Warhammer40K out]] [[{{SCPFOUNDATION}} there]] [[ParanoiaFuel just waiting to finish off whoever is left standing after the war.]] Be it [[KickTheDog Humanity]] OR humanity]] ''or'' [[EvilVersusEvil the Solar Empire]].



* Just what has become of TCB!A.K Yearling ([[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E4DaringDont who is also Daring Do]])? Granted, she is either writing pro-Queen Celestia propaganda or could be stealing valuable Human artifacts (such as golden jewelry or necklaces that use to be worn by Royalty) under the Queen's orders to reward her most monstrous and loyal cronies.

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* Just what has become of TCB!A.K Yearling ([[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E4DaringDont who actually is also Daring Do]])? Granted, Is she is either writing pro-Queen Celestia propaganda or could be stealing valuable Human artifacts (such as golden jewelry or necklaces that use to be worn by Royalty) under still in the Queen's orders to reward her most monstrous and loyal cronies.
Empire, or did she escape? Or worse?



*** Most likely because the official military forces and some of the HLF destroyed most of the Bureaus already.





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* Just what has become of TCB!A.K Yearling ([[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E4DaringDont who is also Daring Do]])? Granted, she is either writing pro-Queen Celestia propaganda or could be steal Human artifacts under the Queen's orders.

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* Just what has become of TCB!A.K Yearling ([[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E4DaringDont who is also Daring Do]])? Granted, she is either writing pro-Queen Celestia propaganda or could be steal stealing valuable Human artifacts (such as golden jewelry or necklaces that use to be worn by Royalty) under the Queen's orders.
orders to reward her most monstrous and loyal cronies.
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\n* Just what has become of TCB!A.K Yearling ([[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E4DaringDont who is also Daring Do]])? Granted, she is either writing pro-Queen Celestia propaganda or could be steal Human artifacts under the Queen's orders.
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\n* Why did Fancy Pants have to make a LastStand after sending Fleur on her way? The escape route was hidden and the only way into the room it was located in kept the newfoals out for some time thanks to his barricade work. Wouldn't this make Fancy Pants' distraction either a [[SenselessSacrifice Senseless]] or StupidSacrifice?

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* In the early days of the war, as the barrier continued to shallow up more and more ground, why weren't [[DeadlyGas chemical weapons and nerve agents]] deployed against the invaders? At the very least, it would have proven devastating to them.

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** Another acknowledgment in ''Calm Before the Storm'':
--> '''TCB!Big Macintosh:''' (thinking) And Applejack... if whatever happened to her is somehow reversible, she'll be a broken mare, probably hated by everyone. Including herself, maybe. Come to think of it, that might very well happen to everypony that isn't in the PHL.

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** On that same note, the PER may seem over the top with their extreme misanthropy and wishes for humanity's extinction but there's the fact that ''people that misanthropic really do exist''.



* The PER seem over the top with their extreme misanthropy and wishes for human extinction but ''people that misanthropic really exist''.

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* The PER seem over the top with their extreme misanthropy and wishes for human extinction but ''people that misanthropic really exist''.





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* Gilda is said to be the Princess of the Griffon Kingdom. How the hell would Pinkie Pie have been able to prank her the way she did in "Griffon the Brush Off" without causing some diplomatic/international incident?
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* The PER seem over the top with their extreme misanthropy and wishes for human extinction but ''people that misanthropic really exist''.

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