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* In the brief cameo for [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV Micheal, Trevor, Franklin, and Lester]], they mention that they are being paid by the PHL to fight with them. With all the resources going to the war effort, just what are they planning to use that money for?
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** [[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/143840/1/the-conversion-bureau-the-other-side-of-the-spectrum-side-story-starvation/starvation Now with]] AscendedFridgeHorror!
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** There's actually an altfic that explores this http://www.fimfiction.net/story/137139/the-conversion-bureau-the-other-side-of-the-spectrum-tyrants-fall as it starts with him [[spoiler: killing Applejack.]]
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* Related to the above example - remember the state of South Africa at the end of ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureauNotAlone''? How the whole country is in total disarray over much of the population being displaced by the barrier's expansion and suffered a staggering loss of infrastructure, as well as [[InferredHolocaust possibly collapsing economically]]? And how it's rapidly [[DayOfTheJackboot turning into a fascist hellhole]] because of these factors along with the rampant paranoia and distrust of the ponies left behind on Earth? Well, apply that to this story - the barrier has wiped out Europe and sections of Africa and Asia. Even if Earth and TBC!Equestria win in the end, just how will humanity, civilization and society in general recover from the war? No matter what, humanity can probably only hope for a very BittersweetEnding PyrrhicVictory at best.

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* Related to the above example - remember the state of South Africa at the end of ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureauNotAlone''? How the whole country is in total disarray over much of the population being displaced by the barrier's expansion and suffered a staggering loss of infrastructure, as well as [[InferredHolocaust possibly collapsing economically]]? And how it's rapidly [[DayOfTheJackboot turning into a fascist hellhole]] because of these factors along with the rampant paranoia and distrust of the ponies left behind on Earth? Well, apply that to this story - the barrier has wiped out Europe and sections of Africa and Asia. Even if Earth and TBC!Equestria Canon!Equestria win in the end, just how will humanity, civilization and society in general recover from the war? No matter what, humanity can probably only hope for a very BittersweetEnding PyrrhicVictory at best.
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* For those who've seen Film/PacificRim - remember how Guillermo Del Toro actually [[RealityEnsues addressed the societal implications]] of what happens if much of the world (i.e in the film's case, coastal regions at the Pacific Ocean) becomes uninhabitable? For example, simple things like bread are seen as a luxury, people are willing to work dangerous jobs for food rations, and there's an implied social divide between the wealthy and the rest of society with the rich getting special treatment in the wake of the monster attacks. Now, think about it in the context of this story - the barrier has wiped out Europe and is near Maine. ''About how much of the world is uninhabitable or able to produce food and other commodities''? How would all the WarRefugees survive in the Americas and its surrounding islands? How malnourished are the survivors? What effect would this have on the economy? How do people actually produce basic necessities to live? Dear God, being a refugee on this Earth must suck worse than almost any period in recent history...

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* For those who've seen Film/PacificRim - remember how Guillermo Del Toro actually [[RealityEnsues addressed the societal implications]] of what happens if much of the world (i.e in the film's case, coastal regions at the Pacific Ocean) becomes uninhabitable? For example, simple things like bread are seen as a luxury, people are willing to work dangerous jobs for food rations, and there's an implied social divide between the wealthy and the rest of society with the rich getting special treatment in the wake of the monster attacks. Now, think about it in the context of this story - the barrier has wiped out Europe and is near Maine. ''About ''Just how much of the world is uninhabitable or able unable to produce food and other commodities''? How would all the WarRefugees survive in the Americas and its surrounding islands? How malnourished are the survivors? What effect would this have on the economy? Is there even an economy? How do people actually produce basic necessities to live? Dear God, being a refugee on this Earth must suck worse than almost any period in recent history...




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* Related to the above example - remember the state of South Africa at the end of ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureauNotAlone''? How the whole country is in total disarray over much of the population being displaced by the barrier's expansion and suffered a staggering loss of infrastructure, as well as [[InferredHolocaust possibly collapsing economically]]? And how it's rapidly [[DayOfTheJackboot turning into a fascist hellhole]] because of these factors along with the rampant paranoia and distrust of the ponies left behind on Earth? Well, apply that to this story - the barrier has wiped out Europe and sections of Africa and Asia. Even if Earth and TBC!Equestria win in the end, just how will humanity, civilization and society in general recover from the war? No matter what, humanity can probably only hope for a very BittersweetEnding PyrrhicVictory at best.
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* Any of you ever seen Film/PacificRim? Excellent movie, by the way. Say, remember how in that movie, Del Toro actually [[RealityEnsues addressed the societal implications]] of much of the world (i.e coastal regions) becoming uninhabitable? Like simple things like bread being seen as a luxury, people working dangerous jobs for food rations, and an implied social divide between the wealthy and the rest of society with the rich getting special treatment in wake of the monster attacks? Well, think about it: The barrier has wiped out Europe and is near Maine, ''think about how much of the world is uninhabitable or able to produce food and other commodities''. Good god, how do all the WarRefugees survive in the Americas and its surrounding islands? How malnourished are we? What effect did this have on the economy? How do people actually produce necessities of life? Good god, being a refugee on this Earth must suck worse than almost any period in recent history...
** With such food shortages being noted, just how far would some people go for [[ImAHumanitarian a decent meal]] or maybe some are trying fresh newfoals?

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* Any of you ever For those who've seen Film/PacificRim? Excellent movie, by the way. Say, Film/PacificRim - remember how in that movie, Guillermo Del Toro actually [[RealityEnsues addressed the societal implications]] of what happens if much of the world (i.e in the film's case, coastal regions) becoming regions at the Pacific Ocean) becomes uninhabitable? Like For example, simple things like bread being are seen as a luxury, people working are willing to work dangerous jobs for food rations, and there's an implied social divide between the wealthy and the rest of society with the rich getting special treatment in the wake of the monster attacks? Well, attacks. Now, think about it: The it in the context of this story - the barrier has wiped out Europe and is near Maine, ''think about Maine. ''About how much of the world is uninhabitable or able to produce food and other commodities''. Good god, how do commodities''? How would all the WarRefugees survive in the Americas and its surrounding islands? How malnourished are we? the survivors? What effect did would this have on the economy? How do people actually produce basic necessities of life? Good god, to live? Dear God, being a refugee on this Earth must suck worse than almost any period in recent history...
** With such food shortages being noted, just how far would some people go for [[ImAHumanitarian a decent meal]] meal]], or maybe some are even trying to make a meal out of fresh newfoals?
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** With such food shortages being noted, just how far would some people go for [[ImAHumanitarian a decent meal]] or maybe some are trying fresh newfoals?
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* Any of you ever seen Film/PacificRim? Excellent movie, by the way. Say, remember how in that movie, Del Toro actually [[RealityEnsues addressed the societal implications]] of much of the world (i.e coastal regions) becoming uninhabitable? Like simple things like bread being seen as a luxury, people working dangerous jobs for food rations, and an implied social divide between the wealthy and the rest of society with the rich getting special treatment in wake of the monster attacks? Well, think about it: The barrier has wiped out Europe and is near Maine, ''think about how much of the world is uninhabitable or able to produce food''. Good god, how do all the WarRefugees survive in the Americas and its surrounding islands? How malnourished are we? What effect did this have on the economy? How do people actually produce necessities of life? Good god, being a refugee on this Earth must suck worse than almost any period in recent history...

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* Any of you ever seen Film/PacificRim? Excellent movie, by the way. Say, remember how in that movie, Del Toro actually [[RealityEnsues addressed the societal implications]] of much of the world (i.e coastal regions) becoming uninhabitable? Like simple things like bread being seen as a luxury, people working dangerous jobs for food rations, and an implied social divide between the wealthy and the rest of society with the rich getting special treatment in wake of the monster attacks? Well, think about it: The barrier has wiped out Europe and is near Maine, ''think about how much of the world is uninhabitable or able to produce food''.food and other commodities''. Good god, how do all the WarRefugees survive in the Americas and its surrounding islands? How malnourished are we? What effect did this have on the economy? How do people actually produce necessities of life? Good god, being a refugee on this Earth must suck worse than almost any period in recent history...
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* If Queen Celestia is killed, just what will happen to the newfoals? Will they be freed from the control? Or will they suddenly loose [[DrivenToSuicide their will to live]].

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* If Queen Celestia is killed, just what will happen to the newfoals? Will they be freed from the control? Or will they suddenly loose lose [[DrivenToSuicide their will to live]].
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* Any of you ever seen Film/PacificRim? Excellent movie, by the way. Say, remember how in that movie, Del Toro actually [[RealityEnsues addressed the societal implications]] of much of the world (i.e coastal regions) becoming uninhabitable? Like simple things like bread being seen as a luxury, people working dangerous jobs for food rations, and an implied social divide between the wealthy and the rest of society with the rich getting special treatment in wake of the monster attacks? Well, think about it: The barrier has wiped out Europe and is near Maine, ''think about how much of the world is uninhabitable or able to produce food''. Good god, how do all the WarRefugees survive in the Americas and its surrounding islands? How malnourished are we? What effect did this have on the economy? How do people actually produce necessities of life? Good god, being a refugee on this Earth must suck worse than almost any period in recent history...
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* If Queen Celestia is killed, just what will happen to the newfoals? Will they be freed from the control? Or will they suddenly loose [[DrivenToSuicide their will to live]].
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** The fact that [[spoiler: TCB!Ruby Pinch]] is shown to be a bit older than her canon counterpart and still doesn't have a cutie mark of her own lends a lot of credibility to this theory.

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** The fact that [[spoiler: TCB!Ruby Pinch]] is Pinch and TCB!Sweetie Belle]] are shown to be a bit older than her their canon counterpart counterparts and still doesn't don't have a cutie mark marks of her their own lends a lot of credibility to this theory.
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** To expand on the ''[[Fanfic/TheConversionBureauConquerTheStars Conquer The Stars]]'' example, here's what we're talking about - one of the protagonists, Firebird's parents are Newfoals, which made them total doormats who were unable to deal with their daughter's [[FieryRedhead fiery]] and sometimes [[AxCrazy violent]] personality, given that they lost their capacity for anger and their ability to be assertive. They also couldn't come to terms with her cutie mark (two swords crossed over a shield, which she earned by [[BullyHunter defending someone from a gang of bullies]]), and it's implied Firebird feels cheated out of being born a human. ''This is a best-case scenario''... Think about how bad it could be for Equestria if the majority of parents are PushoverParents who so horribly inept, and unable to handle conflict or assert themselves, and just end up spoiling their children rotten. [[SpoiledBrat Spoiled children]] don't exactly develop well mentally. Neither do children with personalities that are far more forceful than their parents.

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** To expand on the ''[[Fanfic/TheConversionBureauConquerTheStars Conquer The Stars]]'' example, here's what we're talking about - one of the protagonists, Firebird's parents are Newfoals, which made them total doormats who were unable to deal with their daughter's [[FieryRedhead fiery]] and sometimes [[AxCrazy violent]] personality, given that they lost their capacity for anger and their ability to be assertive. They also couldn't come to terms with her cutie mark (two swords crossed over a shield, which she earned by [[BullyHunter defending someone from a gang of bullies]]), and it's implied Firebird feels cheated out of being born a human.human, and carries a large chip on her shoulder because of this. ''This is a best-case scenario''... Think about how bad it could be for Equestria if the majority of parents are PushoverParents who are so horribly inept, and unable to handle conflict or assert themselves, and just end up spoiling their children rotten. [[SpoiledBrat Spoiled children]] don't exactly develop well mentally. Neither do children with personalities that are far more forceful than their parents.parents'.



* [[spoiler: The Bag of Tirek]] itself is a huge bundle of Fridge Horror. It contains horrific darkness and evil within it, and clearly [[spoiler: corrupted Queen Celestia into the xenocidal tyrant Marcus knows her as, as well as possibly the rest of Equestria]], not to mention it also was an instrumental tool for the eradication of the TCB Universe's [[spoiler: changeling population]]. Even [[spoiler: Discord]] expresses a degree of fear and disgust for the evil power it contains, so much so that [[spoiler: he pulls an EnemyMine with the princesses to help them stop it.]] Just how powerful is that thing?! And moreover, could it even be sentient in some way, deliberately committing xenocide against the humans and the other species living in Equus? If so, it could be the biggest CompleteMonster of the story!!

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* [[spoiler: The Bag of Tirek]] itself is a huge bundle of Fridge Horror. It contains horrific darkness and evil within it, and clearly [[spoiler: corrupted Queen Celestia into the xenocidal tyrant Marcus knows her as, as well as possibly brainwashed the rest of Equestria]], not to mention it also was an instrumental tool for the eradication of the TCB Universe's [[spoiler: changeling population]]. Even [[spoiler: Discord]] expresses a degree of fear and disgust for the evil power it contains, contains (in his own words, he couldn't even put a dent in it), so much so that [[spoiler: he pulls an EnemyMine with the princesses to help them stop it.]] Just how powerful is that thing?! And moreover, could it even be sentient in some way, deliberately committing xenocide against the humans and the other species living in Equus? If so, it could be the biggest CompleteMonster of the story!!
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* Another piece related to the lack of cutie marks among the Newfoals [[spoiler: and even natural born ponies, if TCB!Ruby Pinch is of any indication.]] A cutie mark is not the end-all-be-all of a pony's destiny and what they'll do in their futures (for example, Fluttershy's talent is being a kind and caring FriendToAllLivingThings, but she also has other talents too, like sewing), but the fact that the blank flanks are vastly outnumbering those that have found their special talents and purposes could likely mean that Queen Celestia only wants one thing: slaves. Hundreds of millions of blind, brainwashed worshipers that follow her every order and are utterly dependent on her "grace". The fact that she calls the much humbler and benevolent Princess Celestia a weakling for not following the same path only further supports this theory.

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* Another piece theory related to the lack of cutie marks among the Newfoals [[spoiler: and even natural born ponies, if TCB!Ruby Pinch is of any indication.]] A cutie mark is not the end-all-be-all of a pony's destiny and what they'll do in their futures (for example, Fluttershy's talent is being a kind and caring FriendToAllLivingThings, but she also has other talents too, like sewing), but the fact that the blank flanks are vastly outnumbering those that have found their special talents and purposes could likely mean that Queen Celestia only wants one thing: slaves. Hundreds of millions of blind, brainwashed worshipers that follow her every order and are utterly dependent on her "grace". The fact that she calls the much humbler and benevolent Princess Celestia a weakling for not following the same path only further supports this theory.
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* {{Extreme Doormat}}s don't make for good parents, either, as ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureauConquerTheStars'' showed. Will the Newfoals' children be the same as them, and slowly turn Equestria into a non-functioning quasi-ZombieApocalypse scenario, where every pony is just a completely blind worshiper and slave of an [[MadGod insane goddess]]? ''Or''.... Will their kids be born normal and with the full range of emotions, and at the mercy of utterly inept parents that are unable to raise them with the right amount of care and discipline?
** To expand on the ''[[Fanfic/TheConversionBureauConquerTheStars Conquer The Stars]]'' example, here's what we're talking about - one of the protagonists, Firebird's parents are Newfoals, which made them total doormats who were unable to deal with their daughter's [[FieryRedhead fiery]] and sometimes [[AxCrazy violent]] personality. They also couldn't come to terms with her cutie mark (two swords crossed over a shield, which she earned by [[BullyHunter defending someone from a gang of bullies]]), and it's implied Firebird feels cheated out of being born a human. ''This is a best-case scenario''... Think about how bad it could be for Equestria if the majority of parents are PushoverParents who so horribly inept, and unable to handle conflict or assert themselves, and just end up spoiling their children rotten. [[SpoiledBrat Spoiled children]] don't exactly develop well mentally.

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* {{Extreme Doormat}}s don't make for good parents, either, as ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureauConquerTheStars'' showed. Will the Newfoals' children be the same as them, and slowly turn Equestria into a non-functioning quasi-ZombieApocalypse scenario, where every pony is just a completely blind worshiper and slave of an [[MadGod insane goddess]]? ''Or''.... Will their kids be born normal and with the full range of emotions, and at the mercy of utterly inept parents that are unable to raise them with the right amount of care and discipline?
discipline? It's hard to tell which is a worse prospect.
** To expand on the ''[[Fanfic/TheConversionBureauConquerTheStars Conquer The Stars]]'' example, here's what we're talking about - one of the protagonists, Firebird's parents are Newfoals, which made them total doormats who were unable to deal with their daughter's [[FieryRedhead fiery]] and sometimes [[AxCrazy violent]] personality.personality, given that they lost their capacity for anger and their ability to be assertive. They also couldn't come to terms with her cutie mark (two swords crossed over a shield, which she earned by [[BullyHunter defending someone from a gang of bullies]]), and it's implied Firebird feels cheated out of being born a human. ''This is a best-case scenario''... Think about how bad it could be for Equestria if the majority of parents are PushoverParents who so horribly inept, and unable to handle conflict or assert themselves, and just end up spoiling their children rotten. [[SpoiledBrat Spoiled children]] don't exactly develop well mentally. Neither do children with personalities that are far more forceful than their parents.
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** To expand on the ''[[Fanfic/TheConversionBureauConquerTheStars Conquer The Stars]]'' example, here's what we're talking about - one of the protagonists, Firebird's parents are Newfoals, which made them total doormats who were unable to deal with their daughter's [[FieryRedhead fiery]] and sometimes [[AxCrazy violent]] personality. They also couldn't come to terms with her cutie mark (two swords crossed over a shield, which she earned by [[BullyHunter defending someone from a gang of bullies]]), and it's implied Firebird feels cheated out of being born a human. ''This is a best-case scenario''... Think about how bad it could be for Equestria if the majority of parents are so horribly inept, unable to handle conflict or assert themselves, and just end up spoiling their children rotten. [[SpoiledBrat Spoiled children]] don't exactly develop well mentally.

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** To expand on the ''[[Fanfic/TheConversionBureauConquerTheStars Conquer The Stars]]'' example, here's what we're talking about - one of the protagonists, Firebird's parents are Newfoals, which made them total doormats who were unable to deal with their daughter's [[FieryRedhead fiery]] and sometimes [[AxCrazy violent]] personality. They also couldn't come to terms with her cutie mark (two swords crossed over a shield, which she earned by [[BullyHunter defending someone from a gang of bullies]]), and it's implied Firebird feels cheated out of being born a human. ''This is a best-case scenario''... Think about how bad it could be for Equestria if the majority of parents are PushoverParents who so horribly inept, and unable to handle conflict or assert themselves, and just end up spoiling their children rotten. [[SpoiledBrat Spoiled children]] don't exactly develop well mentally.
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** To expand on the ''[[Fanfic/TheConversionBureauConquerTheStars Conquer The Stars]]'' example, here's what we're talking about-Firebird's[[note]] One of the protagonists, who has a cutie mark dedicated to violently defending other ponies[[/note]] parents are Newfoals, which made them total doormats who were unable to deal with their daughter's fiery personality. They also couldn't come to terms with her cutie mark, and Firebird feels cheated out of being born a human. ''This is a best-case scenario''... Think about how bad it could be for Equestria if the majority of parents are so horribly inept, and spoil their children. Spoiled children... don't exactly develop well mentally.

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** To expand on the ''[[Fanfic/TheConversionBureauConquerTheStars Conquer The Stars]]'' example, here's what we're talking about-Firebird's[[note]] One about - one of the protagonists, who has a cutie mark dedicated to violently defending other ponies[[/note]] Firebird's parents are Newfoals, which made them total doormats who were unable to deal with their daughter's fiery [[FieryRedhead fiery]] and sometimes [[AxCrazy violent]] personality. They also couldn't come to terms with her cutie mark, mark (two swords crossed over a shield, which she earned by [[BullyHunter defending someone from a gang of bullies]]), and it's implied Firebird feels cheated out of being born a human. ''This is a best-case scenario''... Think about how bad it could be for Equestria if the majority of parents are so horribly inept, unable to handle conflict or assert themselves, and spoil just end up spoiling their children. children rotten. [[SpoiledBrat Spoiled children... children]] don't exactly develop well mentally.
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** To expand on the ''[[Fanfic/TheConversionBureauConquerTheStars Conquer The Stars]]'' example, here's what we're talking about-Firebird's[[note]] One of the protagonist, who has a cutie mark dedicated to violently defending other ponies[[/note]] parents are Newfoals, which made them total doormats who were unable to deal with their daughter's fiery personality. They also couldn't come to terms with her cutie mark, and Firebird feels cheated out of being born a human. This is a best-case scenario... Think about how bad it could be for Equestria if the majority of parents are so horribly inept, and spoil their children. Spoiled children... don't exactly develop well mentally.

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** To expand on the ''[[Fanfic/TheConversionBureauConquerTheStars Conquer The Stars]]'' example, here's what we're talking about-Firebird's[[note]] One of the protagonist, protagonists, who has a cutie mark dedicated to violently defending other ponies[[/note]] parents are Newfoals, which made them total doormats who were unable to deal with their daughter's fiery personality. They also couldn't come to terms with her cutie mark, and Firebird feels cheated out of being born a human. This ''This is a best-case scenario...scenario''... Think about how bad it could be for Equestria if the majority of parents are so horribly inept, and spoil their children. Spoiled children... don't exactly develop well mentally.
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* The Newfoals can't receive cutie marks. Given how a good number of Equestrian ponies have defected from Equestria, and how humans do outnumber ponies in the billions, the economic strain on Equestria would be '''massive''' if they win. What do you make them do? And just how are they supposed to integrate into society?

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* The Newfoals can't receive cutie marks. Given how a good number of Equestrian ponies have defected from Equestria, and how humans do outnumber ponies in the billions, the economic strain on Equestria would be '''massive''' if they win. What do you make them do? And just how are they supposed to integrate into society? society?
** Slavery?
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** Given how [[spoiler: TCB!Ruby Pinch]] is shown to be a bit older than her canon counterpart and still doesn't have a cutie mark of her own, this may well be true.
* Also counts as InUniverse FridgeHorror: sometime after his fight with the Canon!Mane 6, Marcus realizes that if he did kill them, he would have continued his rampage and killed innocent lives. He could've easily torn through other nearby towns, mistaking other ponies as their TCB counterparts and killed them as well. Even moreso, he would've he gone straight to Canterlot and kill the Princesses, in his misguided attempt to avert the war! And in the process of it all, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero he could've thwarted]] what could have been humanity's last hope for survival.

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** Given how The fact that [[spoiler: TCB!Ruby Pinch]] is shown to be a bit older than her canon counterpart and still doesn't have a cutie mark of her own, own lends a lot of credibility to this may well be true.
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* Also counts as InUniverse FridgeHorror: sometime after his fight with the Canon!Mane 6, Marcus realizes that if he did kill them, he would have continued his rampage and killed innocent lives. He could've rampage, easily torn through other nearby towns, mistaking other ponies as their TCB counterparts and killed them as well. Even moreso, more, he would've he gone straight to Canterlot and kill the Princesses, in his misguided attempt to avert the war! And in the process of it all, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero he could've thwarted]] what could have been humanity's last hope for survival.




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* Another piece related to the lack of cutie marks among the Newfoals [[spoiler: and even natural born ponies, if TCB!Ruby Pinch is of any indication.]] A cutie mark is not the end-all-be-all of a pony's destiny and what they'll do in their futures (for example, Fluttershy's talent is being a kind and caring FriendToAllLivingThings, but she also has other talents too, like sewing), but the fact that the blank flanks are vastly outnumbering those that have found their special talents and purposes could likely mean that Queen Celestia only wants one thing: slaves. Hundreds of millions of blind, brainwashed worshipers that follow her every order and are utterly dependent on her "grace". The fact that she calls the much humbler and benevolent Princess Celestia a weakling for not following the same path only further supports this theory.



* As mentioned above, the possible reason for the "Dearth" of cutie marks. [[spoiler: It's pure speculation, stating that the lack of cutie marks could be Celestia's (and the Bag of Tirek's) fault, thanks to her horrible brainwashing of all of Equestria. A Cutie Mark is supposed to be a representation of someone's true self and talents... and what could the MindRape do but suppress the ability of native Equestrians to be themselves?]] Given how [[spoiler: TCB!Ruby Pinch]] is shown to be a bit older than her canon counterpart and still doesn't have a cutie mark of her own, this may well be true.

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* As mentioned above, the possible reason explanation for the "Dearth" "dearth" of cutie marks. [[spoiler: It's pure speculation, stating but it's very possible that the lack of cutie marks could be Celestia's (and the Bag of Tirek's) fault, thanks to her horrible brainwashing of all of Equestria. A Cutie Mark cutie mark is supposed to be a representation of someone's true self and talents... and what could the MindRape do but suppress the ability of native Equestrians to be themselves?]] Given how the fact that [[spoiler: TCB!Ruby Pinch]] is shown to be a bit older than her canon counterpart and still doesn't have a cutie mark of her own, this may well be true.the case.
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* [[spoiler: The Bag of Tirek]] itself is a huge bundle of Fridge Horror. It contains horrific darkness and evil within it, and clearly [[spoiler: corrupted Queen Celestia into the xenocidal tyrant Marcus knows her as, as well as possibly the rest of Equestria]], not to mention it also was an instrumental tool for the eradication of the TCB Universe's [[spoiler: changeling population]]. Even [[spoiler: Discord]] expresses a degree of fear and disgust for the evil power it contains, so much so that [[spoiler: he pulls an EnemyMine with the princesses to help them stop it.]] Just how powerful is that thing?! And moreover, could it even be sentient in some way, deliberately committing genocide against the humans and the other species living in Equus? If so, it could be the biggest CompleteMonster of the story!!

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* [[spoiler: The Bag of Tirek]] itself is a huge bundle of Fridge Horror. It contains horrific darkness and evil within it, and clearly [[spoiler: corrupted Queen Celestia into the xenocidal tyrant Marcus knows her as, as well as possibly the rest of Equestria]], not to mention it also was an instrumental tool for the eradication of the TCB Universe's [[spoiler: changeling population]]. Even [[spoiler: Discord]] expresses a degree of fear and disgust for the evil power it contains, so much so that [[spoiler: he pulls an EnemyMine with the princesses to help them stop it.]] Just how powerful is that thing?! And moreover, could it even be sentient in some way, deliberately committing genocide xenocide against the humans and the other species living in Equus? If so, it could be the biggest CompleteMonster of the story!!
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* The Newfoals can't receive cutie marks. Given how a good number of Equestrian ponies have defected from Equestria, and how humans do outnumber ponies in the billions, the economic strain on Equestria would be '''massive''' if they win. And just how are they supposed to integrate into society?

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* The Newfoals can't receive cutie marks. Given how a good number of Equestrian ponies have defected from Equestria, and how humans do outnumber ponies in the billions, the economic strain on Equestria would be '''massive''' if they win. What do you make them do? And just how are they supposed to integrate into society?



* As mentioned above, the possible reason for the "Dearth" of cutie marks.

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* As mentioned above, the possible reason for the "Dearth" of cutie marks. [[spoiler: It's pure speculation, stating that the lack of cutie marks could be Celestia's (and the Bag of Tirek's) fault, thanks to her horrible brainwashing of all of Equestria. A Cutie Mark is supposed to be a representation of someone's true self and talents... and what could the MindRape do but suppress the ability of native Equestrians to be themselves?]] Given how [[spoiler: TCB!Ruby Pinch]] is shown to be a bit older than her canon counterpart and still doesn't have a cutie mark of her own, this may well be true.
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** The authors will likely answer this in time. Most likely, it's temporary and he's only staying in this form willingly for his pony family.

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** The authors will likely answer this in time. Most likely, it's temporary and he's only staying in this form willingly for his pony family.family.

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* As mentioned above, the possible reason for the "Dearth" of cutie marks.

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* Oh, it's even worse than that: It's vaguely implied by Trixie in chapter 6 that besides the... the newfoals... um... shit... let's start over. It's vaguely implied that besides [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant ev]][[StepfordSmiler er]][[UncannyValley y]][[TranshumanTreachery th]][[CreepyChild in]][[BrainwashedAndCrazy g]] about the Newfoals, there's [[UpToEleven something else wrong with them, on a deep fundamental level, somehow related to their inability to receive Cutie Marks]]... and '''it's spreading'''. Equestria may look unstoppable to the humans, but it's possible there's something dreadfully wrong with the native magic of the land. [[spoiler: Or could the lack of cutie marks be Celestia's fault, thanks to her horrible brainwashing of all of Equestria? A Cutie Mark is supposed to be a representation of someone's true self and talents... and what could the MindRape do but suppress the ability of native Equestrians to be themselves?]]

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* Oh, it's even worse than that: It's vaguely implied by Trixie in chapter 6 that besides the... the newfoals... um... shit... let's start over. It's vaguely implied that besides [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant ev]][[StepfordSmiler er]][[UncannyValley y]][[TranshumanTreachery th]][[CreepyChild in]][[BrainwashedAndCrazy g]] else we know about the Newfoals, there's [[UpToEleven something else wrong with them, on a deep fundamental level, that's somehow related to their inability to receive Cutie Marks]]... and '''it's spreading'''. Equestria may look unstoppable to the humans, but it's possible there's something dreadfully wrong with the native magic of the land. [[spoiler: Or could the lack of cutie marks be Celestia's (and the Bag of Tirek's) fault, thanks to her horrible brainwashing of all of Equestria? A Cutie Mark is supposed to be a representation of someone's true self and talents... and what could the MindRape do but suppress the ability of native Equestrians to be themselves?]]themselves?]]
** Given how [[spoiler: TCB!Ruby Pinch]] is shown to be a bit older than her canon counterpart and still doesn't have a cutie mark of her own, this may well be true.




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* [[spoiler: The Bag of Tirek]] itself is a huge bundle of Fridge Horror. It contains horrific darkness and evil within it, and clearly [[spoiler: corrupted Queen Celestia into the xenocidal tyrant Marcus knows her as, as well as possibly the rest of Equestria]], not to mention it also was an instrumental tool for the eradication of the TCB Universe's [[spoiler: changeling population]]. Even [[spoiler: Discord]] expresses a degree of fear and disgust for the evil power it contains, so much so that [[spoiler: he pulls an EnemyMine with the princesses to help them stop it.]] Just how powerful is that thing?! And moreover, could it even be sentient in some way, deliberately committing genocide against the humans and the other species living in Equus? If so, it could be the biggest CompleteMonster of the story!!



* An [[MagicAIsMagicA explicit feature]] of transformation magic in the setting, regardless of intent, is that permanent transformation of one creature into another is impossible unless the transformee's soul is "bound in chains." While it's safe to say ponification potion wasn't involved in this particular instance, how is it that [[spoiler: The Doctor]] is still himself despite turning into a pony?

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* An [[MagicAIsMagicA explicit feature]] of transformation magic in the setting, regardless of intent, is that permanent transformation of one creature into another is impossible unless the transformee's soul is "bound in chains." While it's safe to say ponification potion wasn't involved in this particular instance, how is it that [[spoiler: The Doctor]] is still himself despite turning into a pony?pony?
** The authors will likely answer this in time. Most likely, it's temporary and he's only staying in this form willingly for his pony family.
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* Also counts as InUniverse FridgeHorror: sometime after his fight with the Canon!Mane 6, Marcus realizes that if he did kill them, he would have continued his rampage and killed innocent lives. He could've easily torn through other nearby towns, mistaking other ponies as their TCB counterparts and killed them as well. Even moreso, he would've he gone straight to Canterlot and kill the Princesses, in his misguided attempt to avert the war! And in the process of it all, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero he could've thwarted]] what could have been humanity's last hope for survival.

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* Also counts as InUniverse FridgeHorror: sometime after his fight with the Canon!Mane 6, Marcus realizes that if he did kill them, he would have continued his rampage and killed innocent lives. He could've easily torn through other nearby towns, mistaking other ponies as their TCB counterparts and killed them as well. Even moreso, he would've he gone straight to Canterlot and kill the Princesses, in his misguided attempt to avert the war! And in the process of it all, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero he could've thwarted]] what could have been humanity's last hope for survival.survival.

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* An [[MagicAIsMagicA explicit feature]] of transformation magic in the setting, regardless of intent, is that permanent transformation of one creature into another is impossible unless the transformee's soul is "bound in chains." While it's safe to say ponification potion wasn't involved in this particular instance, how is it that [[spoiler: The Doctor]] is still himself despite turning into a pony?
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* The Newfoals can't receive cutie marks. Given how a good number of Equestrian ponies have defected from Equestria, and how humans do outnumber ponies in the billions, the economic strain on Equestria would be '''massive''' if they won. And just how are they supposed to integrate into society?
* {{Extreme Doormat}}s don't make good parents, either, as TheConversionBureauConquerTheStars showed. Will their foals be the same way, and slowly turn Equestria into an unfuctioning quasi-ZombieApocalypse scenario? ''Or''.... Will their foals be normal, and at the mercy of utterly inept parents?
* Oh, it's even worse than that: It's vaguely implied by Trixie in chapter 6 that besides the... the newfoals... um... shit... let's start over. It's vaguely implied that besides [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant ev]][[StepfordSmiler er]][[UncannyValley y]][[TranshumanTreachery th]][[CreepyChild in]][[BrainwashedAndCrazy g]] about the Newfoals, there's [[UpToEleven something else wrong with them, on a deep fundamental level, somehow related to their inability to receive Cutie Marks]]... and '''It's spreading'''. Equestria may look unstoppable to the humans, but it's possible there's something dreadfully wrong with the native magic of the land. [[spoiler: Or the lack of cutie marks could Celestia's fault, thanks to her horrible MindRape of all of Equestria. A Cutie Mark is supposed to be a representation of someone's true self... and what could the MindRape do but suppress the ability of native Equestrians to be themselves?]]
* Sometime after his fight with the Canon!Mane 6, Marcus realizes that [[spoiler: if he did kill them he would have continued his rampage and killed innocent. But what if he did kill the Mane 6? Who would be next? Would he tear through other nearby towns looking for the Canon ponies he knew as cold blooded murderers? Would he go straight to Canterlot and kill the Princesses? Would the Royal Guard even have a chance against him? That won't be as bad him not realizing that he had killed the wrong Ponies and had doomed Humanity (or would it be worse if he never realized it?)]]

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* The Newfoals can't receive cutie marks. Given how a good number of Equestrian ponies have defected from Equestria, and how humans do outnumber ponies in the billions, the economic strain on Equestria would be '''massive''' if they won.win. And just how are they supposed to integrate into society?
* {{Extreme Doormat}}s don't make for good parents, either, as TheConversionBureauConquerTheStars ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureauConquerTheStars'' showed. Will their foals the Newfoals' children be the same way, as them, and slowly turn Equestria into an unfuctioning a non-functioning quasi-ZombieApocalypse scenario? scenario, where every pony is just a completely blind worshiper and slave of an [[MadGod insane goddess]]? ''Or''.... Will their foals kids be normal, born normal and with the full range of emotions, and at the mercy of utterly inept parents?
parents that are unable to raise them with the right amount of care and discipline?
* Oh, it's even worse than that: It's vaguely implied by Trixie in chapter 6 that besides the... the newfoals... um... shit... let's start over. It's vaguely implied that besides [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant ev]][[StepfordSmiler er]][[UncannyValley y]][[TranshumanTreachery th]][[CreepyChild in]][[BrainwashedAndCrazy g]] about the Newfoals, there's [[UpToEleven something else wrong with them, on a deep fundamental level, somehow related to their inability to receive Cutie Marks]]... and '''It's '''it's spreading'''. Equestria may look unstoppable to the humans, but it's possible there's something dreadfully wrong with the native magic of the land. [[spoiler: Or could the lack of cutie marks could be Celestia's fault, thanks to her horrible MindRape brainwashing of all of Equestria. Equestria? A Cutie Mark is supposed to be a representation of someone's true self...self and talents... and what could the MindRape do but suppress the ability of native Equestrians to be themselves?]]
* Sometime Also counts as InUniverse FridgeHorror: sometime after his fight with the Canon!Mane 6, Marcus realizes that [[spoiler: if he did kill them them, he would have continued his rampage and killed innocent. But what if he did kill the Mane 6? Who would be next? Would he tear innocent lives. He could've easily torn through other nearby towns looking for the Canon towns, mistaking other ponies as their TCB counterparts and killed them as well. Even moreso, he knew as cold blooded murderers? Would would've he go gone straight to Canterlot and kill the Princesses? Would Princesses, in his misguided attempt to avert the Royal Guard even war! And in the process of it all, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero he could've thwarted]] what could have a chance against him? That won't be as bad him not realizing that he had killed the wrong Ponies and had doomed Humanity (or would it be worse if he never realized it?)]]been humanity's last hope for survival.
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* Oh, it's even worse than that: It's vaguely implied by Trixie in chapter 6 that besides the... the newfoals... um... shit... let's start over. It's vaguely implied that besides [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant ev]][[StepfordSmiler er]][[UncannyValley y]][[TranshumanTreachery th]][[CreepyChild in]][[BrainwashedAndCrazy g]] about the Newfoals, there's [[UpToEleven something else wrong with them, on a deep fundamental level, somehow related to their inability to receive Cutie Marks]]... and '''It's spreading'''. Equestria may look unstoppable to the humans, but it's possible there's something dreadfully wrong with the native magic of the land. [[spoiler: Or the lack of cutie marks could Celestia's fault, thanks to her horrible MindRape of all of Equestria. A Cutie Mark is supposed to be a representation of someone's true self... and what could the MindRape do but suppress the ability of native Equestrians to be themselves?]]

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* Oh, it's even worse than that: It's vaguely implied by Trixie in chapter 6 that besides the... the newfoals... um... shit... let's start over. It's vaguely implied that besides [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant ev]][[StepfordSmiler er]][[UncannyValley y]][[TranshumanTreachery th]][[CreepyChild in]][[BrainwashedAndCrazy g]] about the Newfoals, there's [[UpToEleven something else wrong with them, on a deep fundamental level, somehow related to their inability to receive Cutie Marks]]... and '''It's spreading'''. Equestria may look unstoppable to the humans, but it's possible there's something dreadfully wrong with the native magic of the land. [[spoiler: Or the lack of cutie marks could Celestia's fault, thanks to her horrible MindRape of all of Equestria. A Cutie Mark is supposed to be a representation of someone's true self... and what could the MindRape do but suppress the ability of native Equestrians to be themselves?]]themselves?]]
* Sometime after his fight with the Canon!Mane 6, Marcus realizes that [[spoiler: if he did kill them he would have continued his rampage and killed innocent. But what if he did kill the Mane 6? Who would be next? Would he tear through other nearby towns looking for the Canon ponies he knew as cold blooded murderers? Would he go straight to Canterlot and kill the Princesses? Would the Royal Guard even have a chance against him? That won't be as bad him not realizing that he had killed the wrong Ponies and had doomed Humanity (or would it be worse if he never realized it?)]]
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* Assuming [[spoiler: all of the TCB!Mane 6, the Royal Guards, and most of Equestria were brainwashed and whether or not Princess Celestia is able to free them from the Queen's control,]] just [[DrivenToMadness how]] [[DrivenToSuicide will they]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone re]][[VillainousBreakdown act]] when they realize what they have done to the humans?
* The Newfoals can't receive cutie marks. Given how a good number of Equestrian ponies have defected from Equestria, and how humans do outnumber ponies in the billions, the economic strain on Equestria would be '''massive''' if they won. And just how are they supposed to integrate into society?
* {{Extreme Doormat}}s don't make good parents, either, as TheConversionBureauConquerTheStars showed. Will their foals be the same way, and slowly turn Equestria into an unfuctioning quasi-ZombieApocalypse scenario? ''Or''.... Will their foals be normal, and at the mercy of utterly inept parents?
* Oh, it's even worse than that: It's vaguely implied by Trixie in chapter 6 that besides the... the newfoals... um... shit... let's start over. It's vaguely implied that besides [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant ev]][[StepfordSmiler er]][[UncannyValley y]][[TranshumanTreachery th]][[CreepyChild in]][[BrainwashedAndCrazy g]] about the Newfoals, there's [[UpToEleven something else wrong with them, on a deep fundamental level, somehow related to their inability to receive Cutie Marks]]... and '''It's spreading'''. Equestria may look unstoppable to the humans, but it's possible there's something dreadfully wrong with the native magic of the land. [[spoiler: Or the lack of cutie marks could Celestia's fault, thanks to her horrible MindRape of all of Equestria. A Cutie Mark is supposed to be a representation of someone's true self... and what could the MindRape do but suppress the ability of native Equestrians to be themselves?]]

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