History Fridge / TalesOfVesperia

29th Sep '16 2:55:36 PM LovePsychothefirst
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* Vesper is the name of the evening star and Lucifer is the name of the morning star- both are regarded as the brightest star in the sky. However, both of those "stars" are actually the planet, Venus. Brave '''Vesper'''ia is said to be the brightest star in the night sky, but it's actually a massive blastia. Blastia cores are made of apatheia, which are taken from Entelexia like E'''lucifer'''.
* Fridge brilliance playing tennis with UpToEleven, but the ridiculously conspicuous looking Wonder Chef manages, somehow, to be ''even more'' conspicuous when standing around as himself on the docks in Nordopolica than in his already obvious disguises. It makes sense, since the rubber duck running in circles, the daikon radish, and the pinwheel were all "disguises, so of course he'd be less conspicuous. The UpToEleven comes in at the fact that you really wouldn't expect him to manage to look more conspicuous than his "disguises", but he ''can''. It just doesn't seem to make sense until you realise the other things were disguises.
* The subplot involving Yuri's vigilante behavior serves two purposes: first, it helps the players better understand the motivations of Phaeroh and Duke because it shows Yuri reaching the same mindset to deal with Ragou and Cumore. Second, it serves to demonstrate Yuri maturing, as he's repeatedly put into a position where he has to argue against that mindset, for the sake of someone he knows genuinely means well and isn't causing harm intentionally. It shows the flaw in his vigilante mission, where getting so used to having the moral high ground and being able to pass down judgement and execute anyone he perceives to be evil will lead him to acting like Phaeroh and Duke, attempting to kill innocents without giving them a chance to change their ways.



*** The fact that it even became a spirit is odd- a sidequest shows Rita scoping it out and saying it's no good, since it ''already'' made a spirit itself. They even talk to it, deducing it's a flower spirit. So considering that, Halure's tree is probably safe. It probably wasn't meant to be shown in that cutscene of the barriers being taken away.

[[AC:Fridge Brilliance]]
* Vesper is the name of the evening star and Lucifer is the name of the morning star- both are regarded as the brightest star in the sky. However, both of those "stars" are actually the planet, Venus. Brave '''Vesper'''ia is said to be the brightest star in the night sky, but it's actually a massive blastia. Blastia cores are made of apatheia, which are taken from Entelexia like E'''lucifer'''.
* Fridge brilliance playing tennis with UpToEleven, but the ridiculously conspicuous looking Wonder Chef manages, somehow, to be ''even more'' conspicuous when standing around as himself on the docks in Nordopolica than in his already obvious disguises. It makes sense, since the rubber duck running in circles, the daikon radish, and the pinwheel were all "disguises, so of course he'd be less conspicuous. The UpToEleven comes in at the fact that you really wouldn't expect him to manage to look more conspicuous than his "disguises", but he ''can''. It just doesn't seem to make sense until you realise the other things were disguises.
* The subplot involving Yuri's vigilante behavior serves two purposes: first, it helps the players better understand the motivations of Phaeroh and Duke because it shows Yuri reaching the same mindset to deal with Ragou and Cumore. Second, it serves to demonstrate Yuri maturing, as he's repeatedly put into a position where he has to argue against that mindset, for the sake of someone he knows genuinely means well and isn't causing harm intentionally. It shows the flaw in his vigilante mission, where getting so used to having the moral high ground and being able to pass down judgement and execute anyone he perceives to be evil will lead him to acting like Phaeroh and Duke, attempting to kill innocents without giving them a chance to change their ways.

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*** The fact that it even became a spirit is odd- a sidequest shows Rita scoping it out and saying it's no good, since it ''already'' made a spirit itself. They even talk to it, deducing it's a flower spirit. So considering that, Halure's tree is probably safe. It probably wasn't meant to be shown in that cutscene of the barriers being taken away.

[[AC:Fridge Brilliance]]
* Vesper is the name of the evening star and Lucifer is the name of the morning star- both are regarded as the brightest star in the sky. However, both of those "stars" are actually the planet, Venus. Brave '''Vesper'''ia is said to be the brightest star in the night sky, but it's actually a massive blastia. Blastia cores are made of apatheia, which are taken from Entelexia like E'''lucifer'''.
* Fridge brilliance playing tennis with UpToEleven, but the ridiculously conspicuous looking Wonder Chef manages, somehow, to be ''even more'' conspicuous when standing around as himself on the docks in Nordopolica than in his already obvious disguises. It makes sense, since the rubber duck running in circles, the daikon radish, and the pinwheel were all "disguises, so of course he'd be less conspicuous. The UpToEleven comes in at the fact that you really wouldn't expect him to manage to look more conspicuous than his "disguises", but he ''can''. It just doesn't seem to make sense until you realise the other things were disguises.
* The subplot involving Yuri's vigilante behavior serves two purposes: first, it helps the players better understand the motivations of Phaeroh and Duke because it shows Yuri reaching the same mindset to deal with Ragou and Cumore. Second, it serves to demonstrate Yuri maturing, as he's repeatedly put into a position where he has to argue against that mindset, for the sake of someone he knows genuinely means well and isn't causing harm intentionally. It shows the flaw in his vigilante mission, where getting so used to having the moral high ground and being able to pass down judgement and execute anyone he perceives to be evil will lead him to acting like Phaeroh and Duke, attempting to kill innocents without giving them a chance to change their ways.
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26th Sep '16 12:19:56 AM LovePsychothefirst
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* Fridge brilliance playing tennis with UpToEleven, but the ridiculously conspicuous looking Wonder Chef manages, somehow, to be ''even more'' conspicuous when standing around as himself on the docks in Nordopolica than in his already obvious disguises. It makes sense, since the rubber duck running in circles, the daikon radish, and the pinwheel were all "disguises, so of course he'd be less conspicuous. The UpToEleven comes in at the fact that you really wouldn't expect him to manage to look more conspicuous than his "disguises", but he ''can''. It just doesn't seem to make sense until you realise the other things were disguises.

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* Fridge brilliance playing tennis with UpToEleven, but the ridiculously conspicuous looking Wonder Chef manages, somehow, to be ''even more'' conspicuous when standing around as himself on the docks in Nordopolica than in his already obvious disguises. It makes sense, since the rubber duck running in circles, the daikon radish, and the pinwheel were all "disguises, so of course he'd be less conspicuous. The UpToEleven comes in at the fact that you really wouldn't expect him to manage to look more conspicuous than his "disguises", but he ''can''. It just doesn't seem to make sense until you realise the other things were disguises.disguises.
* The subplot involving Yuri's vigilante behavior serves two purposes: first, it helps the players better understand the motivations of Phaeroh and Duke because it shows Yuri reaching the same mindset to deal with Ragou and Cumore. Second, it serves to demonstrate Yuri maturing, as he's repeatedly put into a position where he has to argue against that mindset, for the sake of someone he knows genuinely means well and isn't causing harm intentionally. It shows the flaw in his vigilante mission, where getting so used to having the moral high ground and being able to pass down judgement and execute anyone he perceives to be evil will lead him to acting like Phaeroh and Duke, attempting to kill innocents without giving them a chance to change their ways.
14th Feb '16 9:00:44 PM Technicolourtardis
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*** The fact that it even became a spirit is odd- a sidequest shows Rita scoping it out and saying it's no good, since it ''already'' made a spirit itself. They even talk to it, deducing it's a flower spirit. So considering that, Halure's tree is probably safe.

to:

*** The fact that it even became a spirit is odd- a sidequest shows Rita scoping it out and saying it's no good, since it ''already'' made a spirit itself. They even talk to it, deducing it's a flower spirit. So considering that, Halure's tree is probably safe.
safe. It probably wasn't meant to be shown in that cutscene of the barriers being taken away.



* Vesper is the name of the evening star and Lucifer is the name of the morning star- both are regarded as the brightest star in the sky. However, both of those "stars" are actually the planet, Venus. Brave '''Vesper'''ia is said to be the brightest star in the night sky, but it's actually a massive blastia. Blastia cores are made of apatheia, which are taken from Entelexia like E'''lucifer'''.

to:

* Vesper is the name of the evening star and Lucifer is the name of the morning star- both are regarded as the brightest star in the sky. However, both of those "stars" are actually the planet, Venus. Brave '''Vesper'''ia is said to be the brightest star in the night sky, but it's actually a massive blastia. Blastia cores are made of apatheia, which are taken from Entelexia like E'''lucifer'''.E'''lucifer'''.
* Fridge brilliance playing tennis with UpToEleven, but the ridiculously conspicuous looking Wonder Chef manages, somehow, to be ''even more'' conspicuous when standing around as himself on the docks in Nordopolica than in his already obvious disguises. It makes sense, since the rubber duck running in circles, the daikon radish, and the pinwheel were all "disguises, so of course he'd be less conspicuous. The UpToEleven comes in at the fact that you really wouldn't expect him to manage to look more conspicuous than his "disguises", but he ''can''. It just doesn't seem to make sense until you realise the other things were disguises.
31st Jan '16 8:10:07 PM Technicolourtardis
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* Vesper is the name of the evening star and Lucifer is the name of the morning star- both are regarded as the brightest star in the sky. However, both of those "stars" are actually the planet, Venus. Brave ''Vesper''ia is said to be the brightest star in the night sky, but it's actually a massive blastia. Blastia cores are made of apatheia, which are taken from Entelexia like E'''lucifer'''.

to:

* Vesper is the name of the evening star and Lucifer is the name of the morning star- both are regarded as the brightest star in the sky. However, both of those "stars" are actually the planet, Venus. Brave ''Vesper''ia '''Vesper'''ia is said to be the brightest star in the night sky, but it's actually a massive blastia. Blastia cores are made of apatheia, which are taken from Entelexia like E'''lucifer'''.
31st Jan '16 8:09:52 PM Technicolourtardis
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*** The fact that it even became a spirit is odd- a sidequest shows Rita scoping it out and saying it's no good, since it ''already'' made a spirit itself. They even talk to it, deducing it's a flower spirit. So considering that, Halure's tree is probably safe.

to:

*** The fact that it even became a spirit is odd- a sidequest shows Rita scoping it out and saying it's no good, since it ''already'' made a spirit itself. They even talk to it, deducing it's a flower spirit. So considering that, Halure's tree is probably safe.safe.

[[AC:Fridge Brilliance]]
* Vesper is the name of the evening star and Lucifer is the name of the morning star- both are regarded as the brightest star in the sky. However, both of those "stars" are actually the planet, Venus. Brave ''Vesper''ia is said to be the brightest star in the night sky, but it's actually a massive blastia. Blastia cores are made of apatheia, which are taken from Entelexia like E'''lucifer'''.
28th Jan '16 8:04:37 PM Technicolourtardis
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** This does bring about some mild FridgeHorror though. [[spoiler:The tree's blastia became a spirit in the ending too. Will this kill the tree, as well? It also raises [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia a second question...]]]]

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** This does bring about some mild FridgeHorror though. [[spoiler:The tree's blastia became a spirit in the ending too. Will this kill the tree, as well? It also raises [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia a second question...]]]]]]]]
*** The fact that it even became a spirit is odd- a sidequest shows Rita scoping it out and saying it's no good, since it ''already'' made a spirit itself. They even talk to it, deducing it's a flower spirit. So considering that, Halure's tree is probably safe.
28th Jan '16 7:59:20 PM Technicolourtardis
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*** This is all assuming the river is even ''deep''. It's stated Adecor only got a cold from it, not that he nearly drowned, and that's by Adecor himself.

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*** This is all assuming the river is even ''deep''. It's stated Adecor only got a cold from it, not that he nearly drowned, and that's by Adecor himself.himself- you'd think he'd mention he nearly drowned if he had, considering how much he and Boccos don't like Yuri. The river might be a shallow one, especially to someone as tall as Adecor, who is taller than the six foot Yuri.
28th Jan '16 7:55:55 PM Technicolourtardis
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*** This is all assuming the river is even ''deep''. It's stated Adecor only got a cold from it, not that he nearly drowned, and that's by Adecor himself.
19th Aug '15 7:32:28 PM Dinru
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* Rita started studying blastia at age 10. Consider how emotionally detached she is from people while that into account. It seems like there may be more wrong with TheEmpire's system than even Yuri is aware of.

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* Rita started studying blastia at age 10. Consider how emotionally detached she is from people while that into account. It seems like there may be more wrong with TheEmpire's system than even Yuri is aware of.of.
* The final solution of the game is hinted at when you first visit Halure, though a new player won't realize it at the time. [[spoiler:The barrier blastia growing into a tree is explain to be a not-unheard of phenomena. Later in the game, you'll be taking pieces of Apathea (unprocessed Blastia cores) and binding them to... [[TechnoBabble something]] to resurrect them as spirits. This is the very first hint that Blastia [[WasOnceAMan were once]] [[PoweredByAForsakenChild Entelexia]] [[AndIMustScream and maintain some consciousness as a result]].]]
** This does bring about some mild FridgeHorror though. [[spoiler:The tree's blastia became a spirit in the ending too. Will this kill the tree, as well? It also raises [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia a second question...]]]]
18th Aug '14 11:44:41 AM MagBas
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** At Aurnion, Raven tells Karol that the spirits are affecting his blastia. They probably helped keep it running even after all the cores disappeared, out of compassion and/or as a reward for helping save the world.

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** At Aurnion, Raven tells Karol that the spirits are affecting his blastia. They probably helped keep it running even after all the cores disappeared, out of compassion and/or as a reward for helping save the world.world.
* Rita started studying blastia at age 10. Consider how emotionally detached she is from people while that into account. It seems like there may be more wrong with TheEmpire's system than even Yuri is aware of.
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