History Fridge / TalesOfVesperia

10th Aug '17 5:12:38 PM Technicolourtardis
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*** The fact that it even became a spirit is odd- a sidequest shows Rita scoping it out and saying it's no good, since it ''already'' made a spirit itself. They even talk to it, deducing it's a flower spirit. So considering that, Halure's tree is probably safe. It probably wasn't meant to be shown in that cutscene of the barriers being taken away.

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*** The fact that it even became a spirit is odd- a sidequest shows Rita scoping it out and saying it's no good, since it ''already'' made a spirit itself. They even talk to it, deducing it's a flower spirit. So considering that, Halure's tree is probably safe. It probably wasn't meant to be shown in that cutscene of the barriers being taken away.away.
*** Actually, it's very likely the light coming off Halure in that scene was the other blastia in the town, not the tree barrier. Rita says that the network they planned out had the barrier as node that would pull all the power from the surrounding blastia. It's more likely that the light we see is just the other blastia, not the barrier. Also, there's nothing saying the tree got so big because of the blastia in the game. It's vaguely implied, as the game says the tree grew around the blastia, but it's never stated. Because three types of flowers grow on the tree, it could actually be three trees that mutated and fused. So it's less one enormous tree and more three huge trees. It's also possible that there's an aer krene buried under Halure, since that's why Keiv Moc's tree is so huge.
9th Aug '17 7:44:17 PM Technicolourtardis
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*** There's also the fact that Flynn is said to have done this, too, so Yuri does this often enough that he can do it without actually hurting anyone. Yuri isn't so much malicious towards the knights as he is antagonistic. He wouldn't hurt, let alone kill, anyone for just collecting taxes, but just remove them from the situation in the most literal way- physically picking them up and removing them. Keep in mind, too, that Yuri did not kill Ragou until AFTER he'd ducked punishment ''twice'' and it became clear he was never going to be punished, and Cumore likewise was given two chances (once at Heliord, again at Mantaic) before he was killed. Yuri would never kill anyone just for collecting taxes- Cumore and Ragou had killed quite a lot of people, but tax collectors, especially ones like Adecor and Boccos (who do care about the people), are not known for killing people. Yuri never had murderous intentions for the tax collectors.
9th Aug '17 7:32:09 PM Technicolourtardis
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** Karol's lack of using magic makes sense if you look at the kind of people he's surrounded by and who his hero is/was- Most people you see in Dahngrest with weapons use huge blades and hammers. There are not a lot of people who use magic, unless they're in the Hunting Blades, which Karol did not join until he'd been in tens of other guilds. The Don is one of those people who also uses a huge weapon. Karol of course uses a weapon twice his size because not only is that what he's surrounded by, but it's what the Don uses. Karol wanted to be just like the Don, so why would he even want to use magic?
29th May '17 4:55:47 PM LovePsychothefirst
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* The ease in which magic can be learned in ''Vesperia'' is supported by the party; of the entire team, only ''four'' members can't use magic. Repede is a dog so is automatically out of the running; Yuri and Judith just aren't the type to be interested and put in the time to study it; and Karol is twelve years old, too young to really focus on studying such subject matters (however, he could very well learn later in life).
29th Sep '16 2:55:36 PM LovePsychothefirst
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[[AC:Fridge Brilliance]]
* Vesper is the name of the evening star and Lucifer is the name of the morning star- both are regarded as the brightest star in the sky. However, both of those "stars" are actually the planet, Venus. Brave '''Vesper'''ia is said to be the brightest star in the night sky, but it's actually a massive blastia. Blastia cores are made of apatheia, which are taken from Entelexia like E'''lucifer'''.
* Fridge brilliance playing tennis with UpToEleven, but the ridiculously conspicuous looking Wonder Chef manages, somehow, to be ''even more'' conspicuous when standing around as himself on the docks in Nordopolica than in his already obvious disguises. It makes sense, since the rubber duck running in circles, the daikon radish, and the pinwheel were all "disguises, so of course he'd be less conspicuous. The UpToEleven comes in at the fact that you really wouldn't expect him to manage to look more conspicuous than his "disguises", but he ''can''. It just doesn't seem to make sense until you realise the other things were disguises.
* The subplot involving Yuri's vigilante behavior serves two purposes: first, it helps the players better understand the motivations of Phaeroh and Duke because it shows Yuri reaching the same mindset to deal with Ragou and Cumore. Second, it serves to demonstrate Yuri maturing, as he's repeatedly put into a position where he has to argue against that mindset, for the sake of someone he knows genuinely means well and isn't causing harm intentionally. It shows the flaw in his vigilante mission, where getting so used to having the moral high ground and being able to pass down judgement and execute anyone he perceives to be evil will lead him to acting like Phaeroh and Duke, attempting to kill innocents without giving them a chance to change their ways.



*** The fact that it even became a spirit is odd- a sidequest shows Rita scoping it out and saying it's no good, since it ''already'' made a spirit itself. They even talk to it, deducing it's a flower spirit. So considering that, Halure's tree is probably safe. It probably wasn't meant to be shown in that cutscene of the barriers being taken away.

[[AC:Fridge Brilliance]]
* Vesper is the name of the evening star and Lucifer is the name of the morning star- both are regarded as the brightest star in the sky. However, both of those "stars" are actually the planet, Venus. Brave '''Vesper'''ia is said to be the brightest star in the night sky, but it's actually a massive blastia. Blastia cores are made of apatheia, which are taken from Entelexia like E'''lucifer'''.
* Fridge brilliance playing tennis with UpToEleven, but the ridiculously conspicuous looking Wonder Chef manages, somehow, to be ''even more'' conspicuous when standing around as himself on the docks in Nordopolica than in his already obvious disguises. It makes sense, since the rubber duck running in circles, the daikon radish, and the pinwheel were all "disguises, so of course he'd be less conspicuous. The UpToEleven comes in at the fact that you really wouldn't expect him to manage to look more conspicuous than his "disguises", but he ''can''. It just doesn't seem to make sense until you realise the other things were disguises.
* The subplot involving Yuri's vigilante behavior serves two purposes: first, it helps the players better understand the motivations of Phaeroh and Duke because it shows Yuri reaching the same mindset to deal with Ragou and Cumore. Second, it serves to demonstrate Yuri maturing, as he's repeatedly put into a position where he has to argue against that mindset, for the sake of someone he knows genuinely means well and isn't causing harm intentionally. It shows the flaw in his vigilante mission, where getting so used to having the moral high ground and being able to pass down judgement and execute anyone he perceives to be evil will lead him to acting like Phaeroh and Duke, attempting to kill innocents without giving them a chance to change their ways.

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*** The fact that it even became a spirit is odd- a sidequest shows Rita scoping it out and saying it's no good, since it ''already'' made a spirit itself. They even talk to it, deducing it's a flower spirit. So considering that, Halure's tree is probably safe. It probably wasn't meant to be shown in that cutscene of the barriers being taken away.

[[AC:Fridge Brilliance]]
* Vesper is the name of the evening star and Lucifer is the name of the morning star- both are regarded as the brightest star in the sky. However, both of those "stars" are actually the planet, Venus. Brave '''Vesper'''ia is said to be the brightest star in the night sky, but it's actually a massive blastia. Blastia cores are made of apatheia, which are taken from Entelexia like E'''lucifer'''.
* Fridge brilliance playing tennis with UpToEleven, but the ridiculously conspicuous looking Wonder Chef manages, somehow, to be ''even more'' conspicuous when standing around as himself on the docks in Nordopolica than in his already obvious disguises. It makes sense, since the rubber duck running in circles, the daikon radish, and the pinwheel were all "disguises, so of course he'd be less conspicuous. The UpToEleven comes in at the fact that you really wouldn't expect him to manage to look more conspicuous than his "disguises", but he ''can''. It just doesn't seem to make sense until you realise the other things were disguises.
* The subplot involving Yuri's vigilante behavior serves two purposes: first, it helps the players better understand the motivations of Phaeroh and Duke because it shows Yuri reaching the same mindset to deal with Ragou and Cumore. Second, it serves to demonstrate Yuri maturing, as he's repeatedly put into a position where he has to argue against that mindset, for the sake of someone he knows genuinely means well and isn't causing harm intentionally. It shows the flaw in his vigilante mission, where getting so used to having the moral high ground and being able to pass down judgement and execute anyone he perceives to be evil will lead him to acting like Phaeroh and Duke, attempting to kill innocents without giving them a chance to change their ways.
away.
26th Sep '16 12:19:56 AM LovePsychothefirst
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* Fridge brilliance playing tennis with UpToEleven, but the ridiculously conspicuous looking Wonder Chef manages, somehow, to be ''even more'' conspicuous when standing around as himself on the docks in Nordopolica than in his already obvious disguises. It makes sense, since the rubber duck running in circles, the daikon radish, and the pinwheel were all "disguises, so of course he'd be less conspicuous. The UpToEleven comes in at the fact that you really wouldn't expect him to manage to look more conspicuous than his "disguises", but he ''can''. It just doesn't seem to make sense until you realise the other things were disguises.

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* Fridge brilliance playing tennis with UpToEleven, but the ridiculously conspicuous looking Wonder Chef manages, somehow, to be ''even more'' conspicuous when standing around as himself on the docks in Nordopolica than in his already obvious disguises. It makes sense, since the rubber duck running in circles, the daikon radish, and the pinwheel were all "disguises, so of course he'd be less conspicuous. The UpToEleven comes in at the fact that you really wouldn't expect him to manage to look more conspicuous than his "disguises", but he ''can''. It just doesn't seem to make sense until you realise the other things were disguises.disguises.
* The subplot involving Yuri's vigilante behavior serves two purposes: first, it helps the players better understand the motivations of Phaeroh and Duke because it shows Yuri reaching the same mindset to deal with Ragou and Cumore. Second, it serves to demonstrate Yuri maturing, as he's repeatedly put into a position where he has to argue against that mindset, for the sake of someone he knows genuinely means well and isn't causing harm intentionally. It shows the flaw in his vigilante mission, where getting so used to having the moral high ground and being able to pass down judgement and execute anyone he perceives to be evil will lead him to acting like Phaeroh and Duke, attempting to kill innocents without giving them a chance to change their ways.
14th Feb '16 9:00:44 PM Technicolourtardis
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*** The fact that it even became a spirit is odd- a sidequest shows Rita scoping it out and saying it's no good, since it ''already'' made a spirit itself. They even talk to it, deducing it's a flower spirit. So considering that, Halure's tree is probably safe.

to:

*** The fact that it even became a spirit is odd- a sidequest shows Rita scoping it out and saying it's no good, since it ''already'' made a spirit itself. They even talk to it, deducing it's a flower spirit. So considering that, Halure's tree is probably safe.
safe. It probably wasn't meant to be shown in that cutscene of the barriers being taken away.



* Vesper is the name of the evening star and Lucifer is the name of the morning star- both are regarded as the brightest star in the sky. However, both of those "stars" are actually the planet, Venus. Brave '''Vesper'''ia is said to be the brightest star in the night sky, but it's actually a massive blastia. Blastia cores are made of apatheia, which are taken from Entelexia like E'''lucifer'''.

to:

* Vesper is the name of the evening star and Lucifer is the name of the morning star- both are regarded as the brightest star in the sky. However, both of those "stars" are actually the planet, Venus. Brave '''Vesper'''ia is said to be the brightest star in the night sky, but it's actually a massive blastia. Blastia cores are made of apatheia, which are taken from Entelexia like E'''lucifer'''.E'''lucifer'''.
* Fridge brilliance playing tennis with UpToEleven, but the ridiculously conspicuous looking Wonder Chef manages, somehow, to be ''even more'' conspicuous when standing around as himself on the docks in Nordopolica than in his already obvious disguises. It makes sense, since the rubber duck running in circles, the daikon radish, and the pinwheel were all "disguises, so of course he'd be less conspicuous. The UpToEleven comes in at the fact that you really wouldn't expect him to manage to look more conspicuous than his "disguises", but he ''can''. It just doesn't seem to make sense until you realise the other things were disguises.
31st Jan '16 8:10:07 PM Technicolourtardis
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* Vesper is the name of the evening star and Lucifer is the name of the morning star- both are regarded as the brightest star in the sky. However, both of those "stars" are actually the planet, Venus. Brave ''Vesper''ia is said to be the brightest star in the night sky, but it's actually a massive blastia. Blastia cores are made of apatheia, which are taken from Entelexia like E'''lucifer'''.

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* Vesper is the name of the evening star and Lucifer is the name of the morning star- both are regarded as the brightest star in the sky. However, both of those "stars" are actually the planet, Venus. Brave ''Vesper''ia '''Vesper'''ia is said to be the brightest star in the night sky, but it's actually a massive blastia. Blastia cores are made of apatheia, which are taken from Entelexia like E'''lucifer'''.
31st Jan '16 8:09:52 PM Technicolourtardis
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*** The fact that it even became a spirit is odd- a sidequest shows Rita scoping it out and saying it's no good, since it ''already'' made a spirit itself. They even talk to it, deducing it's a flower spirit. So considering that, Halure's tree is probably safe.

to:

*** The fact that it even became a spirit is odd- a sidequest shows Rita scoping it out and saying it's no good, since it ''already'' made a spirit itself. They even talk to it, deducing it's a flower spirit. So considering that, Halure's tree is probably safe.safe.

[[AC:Fridge Brilliance]]
* Vesper is the name of the evening star and Lucifer is the name of the morning star- both are regarded as the brightest star in the sky. However, both of those "stars" are actually the planet, Venus. Brave ''Vesper''ia is said to be the brightest star in the night sky, but it's actually a massive blastia. Blastia cores are made of apatheia, which are taken from Entelexia like E'''lucifer'''.
28th Jan '16 8:04:37 PM Technicolourtardis
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** This does bring about some mild FridgeHorror though. [[spoiler:The tree's blastia became a spirit in the ending too. Will this kill the tree, as well? It also raises [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia a second question...]]]]

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** This does bring about some mild FridgeHorror though. [[spoiler:The tree's blastia became a spirit in the ending too. Will this kill the tree, as well? It also raises [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia a second question...]]]]]]]]
*** The fact that it even became a spirit is odd- a sidequest shows Rita scoping it out and saying it's no good, since it ''already'' made a spirit itself. They even talk to it, deducing it's a flower spirit. So considering that, Halure's tree is probably safe.
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