Line #10 Fridge/TalesOfVesperia


1	[[AC:Fridge Brilliance]]
2	* Vesper is the name of the evening star and Lucifer is the name of the morning star- both are regarded as the brightest star in the sky. However, both of those "stars" are actually the planet, Venus. Brave '''Vesper'''ia is said to be the brightest star in the night sky, but it's actually a massive blastia. Blastia cores are made of apatheia, which are taken from Entelexia like E'''lucifer'''.
3	* Fridge brilliance playing tennis with up to eleven, but the ridiculously conspicuous looking Wonder Chef manages, somehow, to be ''even more'' conspicuous when standing around as himself on the docks in Nordopolica than in his already obvious disguises. It makes sense, since the rubber duck running in circles, the daikon radish, and the pinwheel were all "disguises, so of course he'd be less conspicuous. The up to eleven comes in at the fact that you really wouldn't expect him to manage to look more conspicuous than his "disguises", but he ''can''. It just doesn't seem to make sense until you realise the other things were disguises.
4	* The subplot involving Yuri's vigilante behavior serves two purposes: first, it helps the players better understand the motivations of Phaeroh and Duke because it shows Yuri reaching the same mindset to deal with Ragou and Cumore. Second, it serves to demonstrate Yuri maturing, as he's repeatedly put into a position where he has to argue against that mindset, for the sake of someone he knows genuinely means well and isn't causing harm intentionally. It shows the flaw in his vigilante mission, where getting so used to having the moral high ground and being able to pass down judgement and execute anyone he perceives to be evil will lead him to acting like Phaeroh and Duke, attempting to kill innocents without giving them a chance to change their ways.
5	* The ease in which magic can be learned in ''Vesperia'' is supported by the party; of the entire team, only ''four'' members can't use magic. Repede is a dog so is automatically out of the running; Yuri and Judith just aren't the type to be interested and put in the time to study it; and Karol is twelve years old, too young to really focus on studying such subject matters (however, he could very well learn later in life).
6	** Karol's lack of using magic makes sense if you look at the kind of people he's surrounded by and who his hero is/was- Most people you see in Dahngrest with weapons use huge blades and hammers. There are not a lot of people who use magic, unless they're in the Hunting Blades, which Karol did not join until he'd been in tens of other guilds. The Don is one of those people who also uses a huge weapon. Karol of course uses a weapon twice his size because not only is that what he's surrounded by, but it's what the Don uses. Karol wanted to be just like the Don, so why would he even want to use magic?
7	* Once Raven [[WelcomeBackTraitor returns to the party after betraying them]] and apparently committing a HeroicSacrifice, he has a bow equipped that allows him to learn the skill that lets him use his mystic arte, that he used against you as Schwann. Of course he has no reason to hide it from the party any longer.
8	** GameplayAndStoryIntegration: Blast Heart tires Raven and Schwann out, naturally when they use it, they start panting and are vulnerable for a second.
9	* The reason why Patty is immediately drawn to Yuri. In Heracles, she and Flynn discuss how Yuri is the kind of person who would kill Flynn and live with that guilt for the rest of his life if his best friend ever went off the slippery slope like Ragou, Cumore, and Alexei. Seifer had to do that exact thing when Alexei turned the Siren's Fang guild into monsters. He was forced to kill his guild mates with his own hands and subsequently created an entire memorial for them once he had gotten Aifread to safety.
10	* The themes of justice largely fade into the background during the final act and the story becomes focused on stopping the Adaphagos, but the themes are still represented through the final boss. The final boss, Duke, decides to judge humanity as no longer being allowed to live and is going to sacrifice them to save the world. He's forcing his view of justice onto people, the vary themes of the story that Yuri and Flynn debate and struggle with the entire game, except now its applied to ''all'' of humanity and not just select individuals. In the rereleases of the game, Flynn outright calls Duke the world's "judge, jury, and executioner."
11	* It's genius how Estelle keeps nagging the party around to do her bidding because it deconstructs the idea of a nice, innocent princess entirely. Estelle might look like a cute little princess, but actually her desire to see the outside world and do... pretty much everything she ever does... is all born out of a selfish intent. So she's a RebelliousPrincess without ever invoking the stereotype associated with it. Brilliant!
12	* Yuri's subplot about whether [[spoiler:killing people who are above the law, clearly deserve it, and need to die for the sake of others]] was "justice" seems to drop about two thirds of the way through the game and never really get picked up again. However, it wasn't dropped -- it was ''resolved.'' Specifically, it's resolved when Yuri, knowing his hands have been dirtied and no one else will have the guts to do what has to be done, [[spoiler:strikes out on his own to aer-filled Zaphias in order to kill Estelle, to prevent Alexei from torturing her and abusing her power to harm others]]. It's ''not'' justice, and the player knows it, and Yuri knows it, but [[IDidWhatIHadToDo it's something that has to be done,]] [[ThisIsSomethingHesGotToDoHimself and he's the only one who can.]] Of course, this is a ''[[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism Tales]]'' game, and [[spoiler:Estelle's your [[WhiteMage primary healer]]]], so it's a [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt given]] that [[spoiler:he won't ''actually'' kill her]] - but setting it up to make it look as though he would makes the end result of this subplot [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments that much more heartwarming]].
13	** To support this, look at the conversation Yuri has with Estelle about halfway through the game, after [[spoiler:he and Flynn argue about Yuri's murders.]] Estelle says, in a bit of ''extremely'' blatant {{foreshadowing}}, [[spoiler:"If you ever end up pointing your sword at me, I'm sure you'd have a very good reason."]] The ''[[VideoGame/TalesSeries Tales]]'' games in particular do tend to keep their PlotThreads strung together by ArcWords and ideas and such, so doesn't it make sense that [[spoiler:having Estelle say that, during the subplot about Yuri's murders, leads up to the IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight against her]]?
14	** Additionally impressive when you realize that when Yuri talks to Phaeroh over his rationale [[spoiler: for trying to kill Estelle]] he is essentially talking about himself and his subplot.
15	* Repede being wary around Estelle makes sense when you think about how in real life, animals have a tendency to sense things that humans can't and react to it accordingly. Considering how Estelle requires greater aer consumption to use her powers and how too much aer is dangerous for everybody, Repede's natural instinct would be to stay away from her. But because of his loyalty to Yuri, the most he can do is just be aloof to her.
16	* It seems redundant that Alexei would use Yeager's loved ones against him when the latter has a Blastia Heart, but it makes sense when considering the revelations in ''The Empty Mask''. Alexei accidentally built Raven's Blastia Heart to never be switched off, and if Yeager received his heart at around the same time, his heart probably also can't be switched off.
17	* When Yuri tries to [[ThisIsSomethingHesGotToDoHimself go ahead of the group to kill Estelle so they don't have be part of it]], the party call him out on doing so, and he ends up having to admit he was wrong for doing so. In trying to do so, Yuri basically applied his ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight mindset to Brave Vesperia; taking the "law" of the guild into his own hands and going outside the system to do what is "right". However, by doing so Yuri betrayed the values of what Brave Vesperia stood for, as Karol makes it clear a big part of Brave Vesperia is friendship and helping each other. Going alone, Yuri was intending to MercyKill Estelle, but with Brave Vesperia's help, he manages to save her from Alexei, and together they find a way to protect her from further manipulations. This serves to show how Yuri's ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight mindset ''isn't'' always the right choice, as by working in the "rules" of Brave Vesperia, he saves Estelle.
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20	* Yay! You've destroyed all the Blastia! Isn't that great guy with a blastia for a heart . . . OhCrap. Just as he was starting to not be a DeathSeeker too.
21	** Which leads to the FridgeLogic: the ending shows that he did, in fact, live. How?
22	*** This is sort-of addressed in the game; his blastia is unconventional; it doesn't run on aer, but on his own lifeforce. As such, presumably it was not converted.
23	*** There's also a scene you can get in Dahngrest where he's told to have the party's blastia expert take a look at it; assuming he followed this advice, it's possible that they were able to get a spirit to power the blastia.
24	*** So, we put an end to superbeings powering the worlds machines... so that another superbeing can power a machine. '''What'''.
25	*** But this time, the superbeing powering the machines in question won't destroy the world.
26	** At Aurnion, Raven tells Karol that the spirits are affecting his blastia. They probably helped keep it running even after all the cores disappeared, out of compassion and/or as a reward for helping save the world.
27	* Rita started studying blastia at age 10. Consider how emotionally detached she is from people while that into account. It seems like there may be more wrong with TheEmpire's system than even Yuri is aware of.
28	* The final solution of the game is hinted at when you first visit Halure, though a new player won't realize it at the time. [[spoiler:The barrier blastia growing into a tree is explain to be a not-unheard of phenomena. Later in the game, you'll be taking pieces of Apathea (unprocessed Blastia cores) and binding them to... [[TechnoBabble something]] to resurrect them as spirits. This is the very first hint that Blastia [[WasOnceAMan were once]] [[PoweredByAForsakenChild Entelexia]] [[AndIMustScream and maintain some consciousness as a result]].]]
29	** This does bring about some mild FridgeHorror though. [[spoiler:The tree's blastia became a spirit in the ending too. Will this kill the tree, as well? It also raises [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia a second question...]]]]
30	*** The fact that it even became a spirit is odd- a sidequest shows Rita scoping it out and saying it's no good, since it ''already'' made a spirit itself. They even talk to it, deducing it's a flower spirit. So considering that, Halure's tree is probably safe. It probably wasn't meant to be shown in that cutscene of the barriers being taken away.
31	*** Actually, it's very likely the light coming off Halure in that scene was the other blastia in the town, not the tree barrier. Rita says that the network they planned out had the barrier as node that would pull all the power from the surrounding blastia. It's more likely that the light we see is just the other blastia, not the barrier. Also, there's nothing saying the tree got so big because of the blastia in the game. It's vaguely implied, as the game says the tree grew around the blastia, but it's never stated. Because three types of flowers grow on the tree, it could actually be three trees that mutated and fused. So it's less one enormous tree and more three huge trees. It's also possible that there's an aer krene buried under Halure, since that's why Keiv Moc's tree is so huge.
32	* The scene where Yuri [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem "stands up" to]] Pharaoh for wanting to kill Estelle is meant to be his crowning moment, but it comes across as arrogance and could have [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom unwittingly doomed the planet.]]

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