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13th Apr '17 9:46:48 AM LovePsychothefirst
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* If you look at the [[http://www.animelyrics.com/game/talesoftheabyss/karma.htm lyrics]] of the AnimeThemeSong Karma, it's very obvious that the song is from Luke or Asch's POV (but most likely both). It seems to be talking about their relationship [[spoiler: with Luke and Asch as replica and original]] and how they can't seem to exist in the world together, in the same spot. Except then it ends [[spoiler: saying they are together in the same spot, describing not only how they managed at the very end to truly acknowledge each other, but if you choose to take the lyrics as solving the GainaxEnding, that the man who comes back in the post credits scene is ''both'' of them.]]
13th Mar '17 12:46:15 PM LovePsychothefirst
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* Though there are other replicas [[spoiler: like Ion]] only Luke seems to be able to alter events and push for change in the world despite repeated comments on how all replicas are not bound by the Score due to their nature. Why Luke though? Well it might have to do with him being the Scion of Lorelei [[spoiler: that is, he ''is'' Lorelei, just not the Lorelei who made the Score. Who else would have the power to take down the Score and force the world into another future than Lorelei himself!]]
22nd Feb '17 12:03:36 AM Ramona122003
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** It's kind of hard to say that they were TrueCompanions since all of them were keeping secrets from one another, something that Luke repeatedly stating, yet they still kept him in the dark. Which is partly why Luke was so frustrated by his 'friends' by the time they reached Akzeriuth. Add to the fact that Luke is mentally seven, was trapped in his own mansion his entire life while being told that he lost all his memories, and was forced to act like a teenager despite still having the mind of a child, it's little wonder he acted the way he did. At least Guy owned up that Luke was the way he was because of the way they raised him, taking partial responsibility for the tragedy of Akzeriuth. In fact, most of the party began treated Luke a little better, outside of Jade and Anise, once they realized they he was basically a child, even Jade and Anise has some justification. In Jade's case, he was disappointed that Luke refused to take ''any'' responsibility for what happened and Anise because she was projecting her own issues of being a traitor.
4th Jan '17 11:51:15 PM LovePsychothefirst
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* The whole game is basically this when you take into account one single fact [[spoiler: Luke is only seven years old throughout it all, at most eight by the end.]] Take into account everything that happens and what [[spoiler: Luke]] has to do and everything gets downright uncomfortable to even think of.
22nd Dec '16 2:25:42 PM Patcher
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*** Because it isn't saying 'Light of the Sacred Flame, find The One Who Would Seize Glory!'. Lorelei sees 'Luke' as a name, but [[spoiler: 'Vandeldesca']] is more of a word during that exchange to it.

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*** Because it isn't saying 'Light of the Sacred Flame, find The One Who Would Seize Glory!'. Lorelei sees 'Luke' as a name, but [[spoiler: 'Vandeldesca']] 'Vandesdelca']] is more of a word during that exchange to it.
22nd Oct '16 2:22:45 PM esq263
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* Prior to Akzeriuth, Asch repeatedly engages in senseless acts that damage his credibility with the protagonists, especially Luke. Many of these (berating Luke, trying to kill him) could be explained by jealousy or an attempt to derail Van's plans, but his possessing Luke and trying to kill Tear seems inexplicable -- until one realizes that Tear is Van's sister, and killing her (especially if he could get away with it) would be a way to lash out against Van.
26th Feb '16 10:34:18 PM sylviaviridian
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*** Jade also adds ''weird'' modifications to things, like potatoes on pizza, which sort of dovetails with his mentioning in a skit that he uses his cooking to subtly experiment on the party and find out more about their tastes. He may not be doing science for a living anymore, but he's still a bit of a MadScientist at heart.
9th Jan '16 4:02:59 PM esq263
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** This is further supported when talking to the servants at his manor at this time. The player can clearly see their thoughts, in which, because he is a replica, they think that he is mentally unstable and wonder when he will turn homicidal. Spending a month with people who treat you like you're some kind of psycho is not generally beneficial to self-esteem.
1st Jan '16 9:35:07 PM Boobah
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*** Everybody: They thought they were {{Nakama}}. Add in Luke's glory hounding and adamant refusal to accept ''any'' responsibility and he's already got emotional flak coming his way. This makes it easy for any and all additional baggage to head his direction.
1st Jan '16 9:25:45 PM Boobah
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** Let's go down the list, shall we?
*** Tear: She'd already been through a lot with Luke, and he just blew off her concerns. Oh, and if only she'd been successful in her attempt to kill Van the disaster wouldn't have happened.
*** Jade: Having already met Asch at this point, there's little question he knows Luke is a clone. Which means it's Jade's fault Luke even exists, so he takes Luke's involvement kind of personally.
*** Anise: She had a pretty good idea what was going on, but she chose her parents over the people of Akzeriuth.
*** Guy: He ''thought'' he was Luke's best friend, but Luke ignored him just like everybody else. For extra angst, how many times do you suppose he thought of killing Luke as a way of taking revenge on the Duke? Worse, the damnable problem of feeling both of those at the same time.
*** Natalia: Until she found out the Luke was a clone, she just plain never emotionally grokked that Luke didn't remember their childhood together, so she's got the same betrayal feeling going on that Guy and Tear do.
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