History Fridge / TalesOfTheAbyss

8th Dec '17 9:51:44 AM LovePsychothefirst
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* As noted on the main page, MagicAIsMagicA aka the rules of the verse results in a FridgeBrilliance style ChekhovsLecture in the case of Luke. Early on, Luke's ignorance is used to explain what Aggravated Sentiences are; collections of pure fonons with an intelligence and a specific fonic signature. Lorelei's is 3.14159265359 and that's later revealed to be Luke fon Fabre's fonic signature as well. [[spoiler: Then Luke is revealed to be a replica, which is ''pure seventh fonons'' like Lorelei. And then Lorelei flat out calls Luke "my other self" in the core.]] This explains any possible question as to why Luke is able to take down the Score at the end and is in fact implied to be the ''only'' one capable of doing that [[spoiler: as since Lorelei is the one that built and sustained the Score, of course you need Lorelei to take it down...or the ''[[GodInHumanForm other]]'' one.]]

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* As noted on the main page, MagicAIsMagicA aka the rules of the verse results in a FridgeBrilliance style ChekhovsLecture in the case of Luke. Early on, Luke's ignorance is used to explain what Aggravated Aggregate Sentiences are; collections of pure fonons with an intelligence and a specific fonic signature. Lorelei's is 3.14159265359 and that's later revealed to be Luke fon Fabre's fonic signature as well. [[spoiler: Then Luke is revealed to be a replica, which is ''pure seventh fonons'' like Lorelei. And then Lorelei flat out calls Luke "my other self" in the core.]] This explains any possible question as to why Luke is able to take down the Score at the end and is in fact implied to be the ''only'' one capable of doing that [[spoiler: as since Lorelei is the one that built and sustained the Score, of course you need Lorelei to take it down...or the ''[[GodInHumanForm other]]'' one.]]
22nd Nov '17 12:26:44 PM LovePsychothefirst
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* As noted on the main page, MagicAIsMagicA aka the rules of the verse results in a FridgeBrilliance style ChekhovsLecture in the case of Luke. Early on, Luke's ignorance is used to explain what Aggravated Sentiences are; collections of pure fonons with an intelligence and a specific fonic signature. Lorelei's is 3.14159265359 and that's later revealed to be Luke fon Fabre's fonic signature as well. [[spoiler: Then Luke is revealed to be a replica, which is ''pure seventh fonons'' like Lorelei. And then Lorelei flat out calls Luke "my other self" in the core.]] This explains any possible question as to why Luke is able to take down the Score at the end and is in fact implied to be the ''only'' one capable of doing that [[spoiler: as since Lorelei is the one that built and sustained the Score, of course you need Lorelei to take it down...or the ''[[GodInHumanForm other]]'' one.]]
5th Nov '17 10:21:45 PM LovePsychothefirst
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* The food trivia continues with what they don't eat: Tear hates carrots which, aside from being StockYuck, is treated as a "childish" dislike in Japanese media, showing early on that Tear isn't just a cold hearted soldier. Anise is noteworthy for the fact she doesn't have any food she won't eat; considering the PerpetualPoverty she suffers thanks to her StupidGood parents, this makes sense. Jade doesn't like pork and rappig meat; the latter possibly ties into the fact Peony has rappigs for pets. Guy doesn't like lemon and tofu; lemon is a strongly sour flavour while tofu is very bland, neither of which fits the NiceGuy with HiddenDepths. Natalia doesn't like octopus; something she shares with Asch [[spoiler: which considering the fact he's the original Luke fon Fabre, might suggest a similar reason behind the dislike]] who also dislikes carrots. Luke is the one with the [[PickyEater long list]] of foods he hates [[spoiler: which makes sense as he's [[YoungerThanTheyLook seven]] and thus in the age range for being a picky eater as he's old enough to be aware of dislikes in food but young enough to reject anything he doesn't like and refuse to budge.]] On top of that spoilered fact, Luke is a rich noble's son, meaning he grew up in a situation where being picky is ''affordable'' as rejecting food just means the servants remove it and fetch something more to his liking - another part of how spoiled his life was.
26th Oct '17 10:30:24 AM LovePsychothefirst
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* A lot of Luke's {{Jerkass}} actions and words in the first arc make more sense when you take into account [[spoiler: he's actually seven]], his [[NoSocialSkills lack of social skills]], ''extremely'' sheltered upbringing, and the circumstances around them. For example, not wanting to save Engeve from the ligers? Luke doesn't know how important Engeve is and his only experience with the place was "rude people who wrongfully accused me of being a thief" meaning he doesn't see any reason to help them or the cheagles who caused the whole problem in the first place. He's also a massive jerk to Tear because, frankly, she's a cold person and was "introduced" to him via trying to kill his ParentalSubstitute. Luke's approach to people pre ImportantHaircut is very "do unto others as they do to you".

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* A lot of Luke's {{Jerkass}} actions and words in the first arc make more sense when you take into account [[spoiler: he's actually seven]], his [[NoSocialSkills lack of social skills]], ''extremely'' sheltered upbringing, and the circumstances around them. For example, not wanting to save Engeve from the ligers? Luke doesn't know how important Engeve is and his only experience with the place was "rude people who wrongfully accused me of being a thief" meaning he doesn't see any reason to help them or the cheagles who caused the whole problem in the first place. He's also a massive jerk to Tear because, frankly, she's a cold person and was "introduced" to him via trying to kill his ParentalSubstitute. Luke's approach to people pre ImportantHaircut is very "do unto others as what they do to you".
unto you" in style.
26th Oct '17 10:29:30 AM LovePsychothefirst
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* A lot of Luke's {{Jerkass}} actions and words in the first arc make more sense when you first take into account [[spoiler: he's actually seven]], his [[NoSocialSkills lack of social skills]], ''extremely'' sheltered upbringing, and the circumstances around them. For example, not wanting to save Engeve from the ligers? Luke doesn't know how important Engeve is and his only experience with the place was "rude people who wrongfully accused me of being a thief" meaning he doesn't see any reason to help them or the cheagles who caused the whole problem in the first place. He's also a massive jerk to Tear because, frankly, she's a cold person and was "introduced" to him via trying to kill his ParentalSubstitute.

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* A lot of Luke's {{Jerkass}} actions and words in the first arc make more sense when you first take into account [[spoiler: he's actually seven]], his [[NoSocialSkills lack of social skills]], ''extremely'' sheltered upbringing, and the circumstances around them. For example, not wanting to save Engeve from the ligers? Luke doesn't know how important Engeve is and his only experience with the place was "rude people who wrongfully accused me of being a thief" meaning he doesn't see any reason to help them or the cheagles who caused the whole problem in the first place. He's also a massive jerk to Tear because, frankly, she's a cold person and was "introduced" to him via trying to kill his ParentalSubstitute.
ParentalSubstitute. Luke's approach to people pre ImportantHaircut is very "do unto others as they do to you".
25th Oct '17 4:48:45 PM LovePsychothefirst
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* A lot of Luke's {{Jerkass}} actions and words in the first arc make more sense when you first take into account [[spoiler: he's actually seven]], his [[NoSocialSkills lack of social skills]], ''extremely'' sheltered upbringing, and the circumstances around them. For example, not wanting to save Engeve from the ligers? Luke doesn't know how important Engeve is and his only experience with the place was "rude people who wrongfully accused me of being a thief" meaning he doesn't see any reason to help them or the cheagles who caused the whole problem in the first place. He's also a massive jerk to Tear because, frankly, she's a cold person and was "introduced" to him via trying to kill his ParentalSubstitute.
20th Oct '17 4:36:33 AM LovePsychothefirst
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** Before some people learned of the twist, a common theory was [[spoiler: Luke and Asch were actually ''twins'' and one of them was raised in secret]]. This actually made a lot of sense if one used only the information available at the time.

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** Before some people learned of the twist, a common theory was [[spoiler: Luke and Asch were actually ''twins'' and one of them was raised in secret]]. This actually made a lot of sense if one used only the information available at the time. \n [[spoiler: And replicas being identical to originals makes them, to a certain extent, rather similar to a twin in biology.]]
** The fact [[spoiler: Sync sounds very different from Ion]] has an explanation as well: [[spoiler: he really hates being a replica and refuses to be like the original (ironically [[{{Jerkass}} he is]]) so him deliberately sounding as different as possible makes sense.]]
8th Oct '17 6:31:01 PM Nicoaln
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* While some people who saw the game in Japanese (and weren't native speakers) didn't catch it, the casting is FridgeBrilliance too. Why do [[spoiler: Ion, Sync, and Florian have the same voice actor? And Luke & Asch? Cause they're clones.]] This makes a case of TalkingToHimself less of a Trivia entry and more of an actual invoked trope.
** While [[spoiler: Luke and Asch]] is obvious from the sound of their voice, [[spoiler: Sync and Ion]]'s is less obvious cause of how radically different they sound. But one with a clever ear can make the connection.
** Before some people learned of the twist, a common theory was [[spoiler: Luke and Asch were actually ''twins'' and one of them was raised in secret]]. This actually made a lot of sense if one used only the information available at the time.
30th Sep '17 10:18:10 PM LovePsychothefirst
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* As the Awesome page notes, Tear ''almost'' was successful at taking down Van, which would have ended the game there and then. Except...what would happen if she did? [[spoiler: Most likely the Score would ultimately continue as normal as, without Van, the God-Generals wouldn't be in any way organized and would quickly be at least removed from the Order. Luke would have been sent to Akzeriuth. Jade most likely would be ''dead''. And Auldrant would end.]] In other words, Luke jumping up and stopping her is a '''very''' good thing.
20th Jun '17 3:26:13 PM LovePsychothefirst
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*** It also could be because Lorelei was panicking; saying Luke's name was easy but not [[spoiler: Vandesdelca]], especially considering the circumstances.
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