History Fridge / TRONLegacy

24th Jan '17 9:58:02 AM Allronix
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* Quorra's defiant statement to Clu that she "knows" what Users are capable of is pure PatrickStweartSpeech, but it's coming out of the mouth of someone who has only read about humans in a carefully-curated selection of literature, and has plenty of reasons to overlook [[HumansAreFlawed Flynn the Elder's]] [[GodIsFlawed ''many'']] [[WhatTheHellHero questionable decisions]]. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of history books in Flynn's stash. Sooner or later, she's going to read about [[PostHistoricalTrauma all the ways]] humans can and have done much worse things than Clu ever dreamed about, including the fact that ''modern computers themselves'' were designed primarily as a way for humans to hurl missiles at one another for maximum death for minimal effort, and modern-day cyberwarfare and cybercrime. How much is she going to want to help humans after all that?

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* Quorra's defiant statement to Clu that she "knows" what Users are capable of is pure PatrickStweartSpeech, PatrickStewartSpeech, but it's coming out of the mouth of someone who has only read about humans in a carefully-curated selection of literature, and has plenty of reasons to overlook [[HumansAreFlawed Flynn the Elder's]] [[GodIsFlawed ''many'']] ''[[GodIsFlawed many]]'' [[WhatTheHellHero questionable decisions]]. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of history books in Flynn's stash. Sooner or later, she's going to read about [[PostHistoricalTrauma all the ways]] humans can and have done much worse things than Clu ever dreamed about, including the fact that ''modern computers themselves'' were designed primarily as a way for humans to hurl missiles at one another for maximum death for minimal effort, and modern-day cyberwarfare and cybercrime. How much is she going to want to help humans after all that?
24th Jan '17 9:56:47 AM Allronix
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* Quorra's defiant statement to Clu that she "knows" what Users are capable of is pure PatrickStweartSpeech, but it's coming out of the mouth of someone who has only read about humans in a carefully-curated selection of literature, and has plenty of reasons to overlook [[HumansAreFlawed Flynn the Elder's]] [[GodIsFlawed ''many'']] [[WhatTheHellHero questionable decisions]]. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of history books in Flynn's stash. Sooner or later, she's going to read about [[PostHistoricalTrauma all the ways]] humans can and have done much worse things than Clu ever dreamed about, including the fact that ''modern computers themselves'' were designed primarily as a way for humans to hurl missiles at one another for maximum death for minimal effort, and modern-day cyberwarfare and cybercrime. How much is she going to want to help humans after all that?
24th Jan '17 8:49:05 AM Allronix
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* Another "cross the timelines and cringe": In [[VideoGame/TronTwoPointOh Tron 2.0's]] continuity, Tron is viewed as Encom's greatest hero, the focus of a KingInTheMountain style myth stating he will return to defend the system (and, by extension, all of {{Cyberspace}}) in its DarkestHour. It's not a stretch to think that it's probably true in this continuity as well. However, think of what would happen in a Legacy-compliant timeline; at best, Clu could manipulate that legend to his own ends by demonstrating the legendary hero's on ''his'' side. Even if he told the full truth (and this is Clu we're talking about - the guy might give [[MarvelCinematicUniverse Loki]] a run for his money), the truth would be enough to ''severely'' demoralize any opposing systems.

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* Another "cross the timelines and cringe": In [[VideoGame/TronTwoPointOh Tron 2.0's]] continuity, Tron is viewed as Encom's greatest hero, the focus of a KingInTheMountain style myth stating he will return to defend the system (and, by extension, all of {{Cyberspace}}) in its DarkestHour. It's not a stretch to think that it's probably true in this continuity as well. However, think of what would happen in a Legacy-compliant timeline; at best, Clu could manipulate that legend to his own ends by demonstrating the legendary hero's on ''his'' side. Even if he told the full truth (and this is Clu we're talking about - the guy might give [[MarvelCinematicUniverse Loki]] a run for his money), the truth would be enough to ''severely'' demoralize any opposing systems.systems, especially if Clu invokes DarkestHour, and ''then'' reveals the KingInTheMountain as a rectified drone.



** And after the song "Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)" ends, the song that plays right after is "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)" by Eurythmics, which, according to band member and writer Annie Lennox said in an interview was about the search for fulfillment.

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** And after the song "Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)" ends, the song that plays right after is "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)" by Eurythmics, which, according to band member and writer Annie Lennox said in an interview was about the search for fulfillment. The lyrics also work as another {{Foreshadowing}} layer: ''"Some of them want to use you. Some of them want to be used by you. Some of them want to abuse you. Some of them want to be abused."'' And what is Sam in this universe? [[PhysicalGod A User.]]
24th Jan '17 8:28:15 AM Allronix
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* Another "cross the timelines and cringe": In [[VideoGame/TronTwoPointOh Tron 2.0's]] continuity, Tron is viewed as Encom's greatest hero, the focus of a KingInTheMountain style myth stating he will return to defend the system (and, by extension, all of {{Cyberspace}}) in its DarkestHour. It's not a stretch to think that it's probably true in this continuity as well. However, think of what would happen in a Legacy-compliant timeline; at best, Clu could manipulate that legend to his own ends by demonstrating the legendary hero's on ''his'' side. Even if he told the full truth (and this is Clu we're talking about - the guy might give [[MarvelCinematicUniverse Loki]] a run for his money), the truth would be enough to ''severely'' demoralize any opposing systems.
20th Dec '16 12:38:10 PM Allronix
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* Flynn himself is a wonderful {{Deconstruction}} of what happens when you give the LoveableRogue protagonist actual power. He's brilliant with the ideas and big plans, but takes his more responsible and grounded friends, family, and allies for granted. While his charisma ensures their loyalty, he treats them shabbily. The Betrayal comic shows that the Encom board was already losing patience with him, his family was worried, and his friends were questioning his mental health. Even with all the brilliance, they have to run behind him with a broom and dustpan - even twenty years later! And while Clu 2.0 was never a nice guy, he turned on Flynn because he felt that Flynn was neglecting his duties, abandoning the Programs to fawn over the Isos, and letting The Grid fall apart. And when he was needed most to step up and fight for the Programs after the coup? Nope, he takes the last Iso, and goes off in the Outlands to play Zen master while his creations are left to de-rez or worse. Frankly, [[ComesGreatResponsibility with great power comes great responsibility]], and fun-loving Flynn could handle neither.

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* Flynn himself is a wonderful {{Deconstruction}} of what happens when you give the LoveableRogue protagonist actual power. He's brilliant with the ideas and big plans, but takes his more responsible and grounded friends, family, and allies for granted. While his charisma ensures their loyalty, he treats them shabbily. The Betrayal comic shows that the Encom board was already losing patience with him, his family was worried, and his friends were questioning his mental health. Even with all the brilliance, they have to run behind him with a broom and dustpan - even twenty years later! And while Clu 2.0 was never a nice guy, he turned on Flynn because he felt that Flynn was neglecting his duties, abandoning the Programs to fawn over the Isos, and letting The Grid fall apart. And when he was needed most to step up and fight for the Programs after the coup? Nope, he takes the last Iso, and goes off in the Outlands to play Zen master while his creations are left to de-rez or worse. Frankly, [[ComesGreatResponsibility with great power comes great responsibility]], and fun-loving Flynn could handle neither.neither.
* Alan is, by all accounts, a very mild and humble guy - very harmless looking. But there is a moment in the flashback part of the film where he looks about ready to clobber a reporter trying to harass a young Sam. But then remember that the Programs reflect what's in their User's psyche for good or ill. We saw Flynn's dark side manifest with Clu. And then remember that ''Alan'' was the one who built Tron in the first place. [[spoiler: Which means, deep down, he's got one seriously ''scary'' Rinzler-flavored dark side if you ever pushed your luck far enough.]]
2nd Sep '16 7:53:00 AM Allronix
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* Flynn himself is a wonderful {{Deconstruction}} of what happens when you give the LoveableRogue protagonist actual power. He's brilliant with the ideas and big plans, but takes his more responsible and grounded friends, family, and allies for granted. While his charisma ensures their loyalty, he treats them shabbily. The Betrayal comic shows that the Encom board was already losing patience with him, his family was worried, and his friends were questioning his mental health. Even with all the brilliance, they have to run behind him with a broom and dustpan - even twenty years later! And while Clu 2.0 was never a nice guy, he turned on Flynn because he felt that Flynn was neglecting his duties, abandoning the Programs to fawn over the Isos, and letting The Grid fall apart. Frankly, [[ComesGreatResponsibility with great power comes great responsibility]], and fun-loving Flynn could handle neither.

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* Flynn himself is a wonderful {{Deconstruction}} of what happens when you give the LoveableRogue protagonist actual power. He's brilliant with the ideas and big plans, but takes his more responsible and grounded friends, family, and allies for granted. While his charisma ensures their loyalty, he treats them shabbily. The Betrayal comic shows that the Encom board was already losing patience with him, his family was worried, and his friends were questioning his mental health. Even with all the brilliance, they have to run behind him with a broom and dustpan - even twenty years later! And while Clu 2.0 was never a nice guy, he turned on Flynn because he felt that Flynn was neglecting his duties, abandoning the Programs to fawn over the Isos, and letting The Grid fall apart. And when he was needed most to step up and fight for the Programs after the coup? Nope, he takes the last Iso, and goes off in the Outlands to play Zen master while his creations are left to de-rez or worse. Frankly, [[ComesGreatResponsibility with great power comes great responsibility]], and fun-loving Flynn could handle neither.
2nd Sep '16 7:45:06 AM Allronix
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* Flynn himself is a wonderful {{Deconstruction}} of what happens when you give the LoveableRogue protagonist actual power. He's brilliant with the ideas and big plans, but takes his more responsible and grounded friends, family, and allies for granted. While his charisma ensures their loyalty, he treats them shabbily. The Betrayal comic shows that the Encom board was already losing patience with him, his family was worried, and his friends were questioning his mental health. Even with all the brilliance, they have to run behind him with a broom and dustpan - even twenty years later! And while Clu 2.0 was never a nice guy, he turned on Flynn because he felt that Flynn was neglecting his duties, abandoning the Programs to fawn over the Isos, and letting The Grid fall apart. Frankly, GreatPowerMeansGreatResponsibility, and fun-loving Flynn could handle neither.

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* Flynn himself is a wonderful {{Deconstruction}} of what happens when you give the LoveableRogue protagonist actual power. He's brilliant with the ideas and big plans, but takes his more responsible and grounded friends, family, and allies for granted. While his charisma ensures their loyalty, he treats them shabbily. The Betrayal comic shows that the Encom board was already losing patience with him, his family was worried, and his friends were questioning his mental health. Even with all the brilliance, they have to run behind him with a broom and dustpan - even twenty years later! And while Clu 2.0 was never a nice guy, he turned on Flynn because he felt that Flynn was neglecting his duties, abandoning the Programs to fawn over the Isos, and letting The Grid fall apart. Frankly, GreatPowerMeansGreatResponsibility, [[ComesGreatResponsibility with great power comes great responsibility]], and fun-loving Flynn could handle neither.
2nd Sep '16 7:42:50 AM Allronix
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** Not only is free-flowing hard to simulate, it takes a ''lot'' of processing power, something that would be in very high demand in a digital world like the Grid. So it only makes sense that Flynn would make everything more simple and easy to render in order to save power.

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** Not only is free-flowing hard to simulate, it takes a ''lot'' of processing power, something that would be in very high demand in a digital world like the Grid. So it only makes sense that Flynn would make everything more simple and easy to render in order to save power.power.
* Flynn himself is a wonderful {{Deconstruction}} of what happens when you give the LoveableRogue protagonist actual power. He's brilliant with the ideas and big plans, but takes his more responsible and grounded friends, family, and allies for granted. While his charisma ensures their loyalty, he treats them shabbily. The Betrayal comic shows that the Encom board was already losing patience with him, his family was worried, and his friends were questioning his mental health. Even with all the brilliance, they have to run behind him with a broom and dustpan - even twenty years later! And while Clu 2.0 was never a nice guy, he turned on Flynn because he felt that Flynn was neglecting his duties, abandoning the Programs to fawn over the Isos, and letting The Grid fall apart. Frankly, GreatPowerMeansGreatResponsibility, and fun-loving Flynn could handle neither.
2nd Sep '16 7:16:18 AM Allronix
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* Remember what kicked off the plot of [[{{Film/Tron}} the first movie]]? Dillinger steals Flynn's life's work, takes credit for it, and Flynn is trying desperately to get it back. Lora convinces Alan to warn Flynn that his hacking attempts are being noticed. Queue a six-felony night to break into corporate HQ and expose Dillinger's fraud, which escalates to trying to stop Master Control from controlling both sides of the Cold War. Now, ''Lora'' was the co-inventor of the Shiva Laser and expressly calls it her "life's work." But come the events of the ''Betrayal'' comic, she's PutOnABus, apparently knowing ''nothing'' about what her "life's work" can ''really'' do. Meanwhile, her ex appropriates one for his own use and is taking joyrides with it in the arcade basement where he gets all the credit and glory for his "digital frontier," and Lora's LockedOutOfTheLoop. {{Hypocrite}}, much?
26th Aug '16 4:54:34 AM StClair
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** Actually... I don't have the DVD handy, but the second trailer (on Website/YouTube) seems to show a much larger number: the "screen saver" (for just a moment, before it cuts to the desktop) reads 20:11:20:16:22:16:(rapidly-changing number), which would come out to 20 years, 11 months, 20 days, 16 hours, 22 minutes, 16 seconds, and X milliseconds. That sounds about right.

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** Actually... I don't have the DVD handy, but the [[https://youtu.be/1Ay_H0p2YDk?t=49s The second trailer (on Website/YouTube) trailer]] seems to show a much larger number: the "screen saver" (for just a moment, before it cuts to the desktop) reads 20:11:20:16:22:16:(rapidly-changing number), which would come out to 20 years, 11 months, 20 days, 16 hours, 22 minutes, 16 seconds, and X milliseconds. That sounds about right.
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