History Fridge / TRONLegacy

2nd Sep '16 7:53:00 AM Allronix
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Flynn himself is a wonderful {{Deconstruction}} of what happens when you give the LoveableRogue protagonist actual power. He's brilliant with the ideas and big plans, but takes his more responsible and grounded friends, family, and allies for granted. While his charisma ensures their loyalty, he treats them shabbily. The Betrayal comic shows that the Encom board was already losing patience with him, his family was worried, and his friends were questioning his mental health. Even with all the brilliance, they have to run behind him with a broom and dustpan - even twenty years later! And while Clu 2.0 was never a nice guy, he turned on Flynn because he felt that Flynn was neglecting his duties, abandoning the Programs to fawn over the Isos, and letting The Grid fall apart. Frankly, [[ComesGreatResponsibility with great power comes great responsibility]], and fun-loving Flynn could handle neither.

to:

* Flynn himself is a wonderful {{Deconstruction}} of what happens when you give the LoveableRogue protagonist actual power. He's brilliant with the ideas and big plans, but takes his more responsible and grounded friends, family, and allies for granted. While his charisma ensures their loyalty, he treats them shabbily. The Betrayal comic shows that the Encom board was already losing patience with him, his family was worried, and his friends were questioning his mental health. Even with all the brilliance, they have to run behind him with a broom and dustpan - even twenty years later! And while Clu 2.0 was never a nice guy, he turned on Flynn because he felt that Flynn was neglecting his duties, abandoning the Programs to fawn over the Isos, and letting The Grid fall apart. And when he was needed most to step up and fight for the Programs after the coup? Nope, he takes the last Iso, and goes off in the Outlands to play Zen master while his creations are left to de-rez or worse. Frankly, [[ComesGreatResponsibility with great power comes great responsibility]], and fun-loving Flynn could handle neither.
2nd Sep '16 7:45:06 AM Allronix
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Flynn himself is a wonderful {{Deconstruction}} of what happens when you give the LoveableRogue protagonist actual power. He's brilliant with the ideas and big plans, but takes his more responsible and grounded friends, family, and allies for granted. While his charisma ensures their loyalty, he treats them shabbily. The Betrayal comic shows that the Encom board was already losing patience with him, his family was worried, and his friends were questioning his mental health. Even with all the brilliance, they have to run behind him with a broom and dustpan - even twenty years later! And while Clu 2.0 was never a nice guy, he turned on Flynn because he felt that Flynn was neglecting his duties, abandoning the Programs to fawn over the Isos, and letting The Grid fall apart. Frankly, GreatPowerMeansGreatResponsibility, and fun-loving Flynn could handle neither.

to:

* Flynn himself is a wonderful {{Deconstruction}} of what happens when you give the LoveableRogue protagonist actual power. He's brilliant with the ideas and big plans, but takes his more responsible and grounded friends, family, and allies for granted. While his charisma ensures their loyalty, he treats them shabbily. The Betrayal comic shows that the Encom board was already losing patience with him, his family was worried, and his friends were questioning his mental health. Even with all the brilliance, they have to run behind him with a broom and dustpan - even twenty years later! And while Clu 2.0 was never a nice guy, he turned on Flynn because he felt that Flynn was neglecting his duties, abandoning the Programs to fawn over the Isos, and letting The Grid fall apart. Frankly, GreatPowerMeansGreatResponsibility, [[ComesGreatResponsibility with great power comes great responsibility]], and fun-loving Flynn could handle neither.
2nd Sep '16 7:42:50 AM Allronix
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Not only is free-flowing hard to simulate, it takes a ''lot'' of processing power, something that would be in very high demand in a digital world like the Grid. So it only makes sense that Flynn would make everything more simple and easy to render in order to save power.

to:

** Not only is free-flowing hard to simulate, it takes a ''lot'' of processing power, something that would be in very high demand in a digital world like the Grid. So it only makes sense that Flynn would make everything more simple and easy to render in order to save power.power.
* Flynn himself is a wonderful {{Deconstruction}} of what happens when you give the LoveableRogue protagonist actual power. He's brilliant with the ideas and big plans, but takes his more responsible and grounded friends, family, and allies for granted. While his charisma ensures their loyalty, he treats them shabbily. The Betrayal comic shows that the Encom board was already losing patience with him, his family was worried, and his friends were questioning his mental health. Even with all the brilliance, they have to run behind him with a broom and dustpan - even twenty years later! And while Clu 2.0 was never a nice guy, he turned on Flynn because he felt that Flynn was neglecting his duties, abandoning the Programs to fawn over the Isos, and letting The Grid fall apart. Frankly, GreatPowerMeansGreatResponsibility, and fun-loving Flynn could handle neither.
2nd Sep '16 7:16:18 AM Allronix
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* Remember what kicked off the plot of [[{{Film/Tron}} the first movie]]? Dillinger steals Flynn's life's work, takes credit for it, and Flynn is trying desperately to get it back. Lora convinces Alan to warn Flynn that his hacking attempts are being noticed. Queue a six-felony night to break into corporate HQ and expose Dillinger's fraud, which escalates to trying to stop Master Control from controlling both sides of the Cold War. Now, ''Lora'' was the co-inventor of the Shiva Laser and expressly calls it her "life's work." But come the events of the ''Betrayal'' comic, she's PutOnABus, apparently knowing ''nothing'' about what her "life's work" can ''really'' do. Meanwhile, her ex appropriates one for his own use and is taking joyrides with it in the arcade basement where he gets all the credit and glory for his "digital frontier," and Lora's LockedOutOfTheLoop. {{Hypocrite}}, much?
26th Aug '16 4:54:34 AM StClair
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Actually... I don't have the DVD handy, but the second trailer (on Website/YouTube) seems to show a much larger number: the "screen saver" (for just a moment, before it cuts to the desktop) reads 20:11:20:16:22:16:(rapidly-changing number), which would come out to 20 years, 11 months, 20 days, 16 hours, 22 minutes, 16 seconds, and X milliseconds. That sounds about right.

to:

** Actually... I don't have the DVD handy, but the [[https://youtu.be/1Ay_H0p2YDk?t=49s The second trailer (on Website/YouTube) trailer]] seems to show a much larger number: the "screen saver" (for just a moment, before it cuts to the desktop) reads 20:11:20:16:22:16:(rapidly-changing number), which would come out to 20 years, 11 months, 20 days, 16 hours, 22 minutes, 16 seconds, and X milliseconds. That sounds about right.
9th Jul '16 11:10:30 AM Allronix
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Worse, if you got the PatchworkFic route? Sam and Jet Bradley would have been something like cousins or brothers, but their respective trips down the cyberspace rabbit hole were ''very'' different, with Sam seeing nothing but hostile AI and Jet seeing mostly sympathetic Programs and HumansAreTheRealMonsters. Jet also may have ''killed'' humans (the Wraiths' survival is questionable, he contributed to Thorne's death, and the F-con trio isn't coming back anytime soon) to protect those Programs. If Sam sees Jet as a traitor to humanity for protecting Programs, and Jet sees Sam as going down the path of people like Crown or Thorne, that could be a tragic and ugly confrontation akin to Marvel's Civil War.

to:

* Worse, if you got the PatchworkFic route? Sam and Jet Bradley would have been something like cousins or brothers, but their respective trips down the cyberspace rabbit hole were ''very'' different, with Sam seeing nothing but hostile AI and Jet seeing mostly sympathetic Programs and HumansAreTheRealMonsters. Jet also may have ''killed'' humans (the Wraiths' survival is questionable, he contributed to Thorne's death, and the F-con trio isn't coming back anytime soon) to protect those Programs. If Sam sees Jet as a traitor to humanity for protecting Programs, and Jet sees Sam as going down the path of people like Crown or Thorne, that could be a tragic and ugly confrontation akin to Marvel's Civil War. War or the whole Xavier and Magneto frenemy dynamic.


Added DiffLines:

3rd Jul '16 3:49:07 AM Yashe
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Though even the CGI-Flynn in the beginning is somewhat justified if you keep in mind, we see that from Sam's point of view. If we treat this as a memory it makes perfect sense that to Sam his bigger than life father who (by Sam's knowledge) abandoned him, doesn't look quite human either.
22nd May '16 8:44:13 AM Allronix
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Worse, if you got the PatchworkFic route? Sam and Jet Bradley would have been something like cousins or brothers, but their respective trips down the cyberspace rabbit hole were ''very'' different, with Sam seeing nothing but hostile AI and Jet seeing mostly sympathetic Programs and HumansAreTheRealMonsters. Jet also ''killed'' humans to protect those Programs. If Sam sees Jet as a traitor to humanity for protecting Programs, and Jet sees Sam as going down the path of people like Crown or Thorne, that could be a tragic and ugly confrontation akin to Marvel's Civil War.

to:

* Worse, if you got the PatchworkFic route? Sam and Jet Bradley would have been something like cousins or brothers, but their respective trips down the cyberspace rabbit hole were ''very'' different, with Sam seeing nothing but hostile AI and Jet seeing mostly sympathetic Programs and HumansAreTheRealMonsters. Jet also may have ''killed'' humans (the Wraiths' survival is questionable, he contributed to Thorne's death, and the F-con trio isn't coming back anytime soon) to protect those Programs. If Sam sees Jet as a traitor to humanity for protecting Programs, and Jet sees Sam as going down the path of people like Crown or Thorne, that could be a tragic and ugly confrontation akin to Marvel's Civil War.
5th Mar '16 7:52:33 AM Allronix
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* Worse, if you got the PatchworkFic route? Sam and Jet Bradley would have been something like cousins or brothers, but their respective trips down the cyberspace rabbit hole were ''very'' different, with Sam seeing nothing but hostile AI and Jet seeing mostly sympathetic Programs and HumansAreTheRealMonsters. Jet also ''killed'' humans to protect those Programs. If Sam sees Jet as a traitor to humanity for protecting Programs, and Jet sees Sam as going down the path of people like Crown or Thorne, that could be a tragic and ugly confrontation akin to Marvel's Civil War.
24th Feb '16 1:11:40 PM HamMan6789
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The visible CGI on CLU's face was supposed to be intentional, right? Then why is it also visible at the very beginning, when a young(er) Kevin is talking to Sam, their last conversation? Unless that conversation takes place immediately after the coup, and CLU is taking advantage of the still-active portal to check out the life of his maker in the outside world. Once he returns to the Grid, he realizes 8 hours later that he can't just come back out whenever he wants, and spends the next thousand or so years planning his return. This definitely adds a new dimension to that intro, knowing that CLU is mocking young Sam while learning about the surface world. He would've been working with Flynn for years and years by that time, so it probably isn't too much of a stretch for him to successfully pretend to be him. Bonus: this also makes their reunion after the Games a hell of a lot creepier, and the relationship between them in general, due to how long CLU has actually been pursuing him. (Of course, this could all just be because no CGI is perfect and it really was the best they could do, but still)
This list shows the last 10 events of 208. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Fridge.TRONLegacy