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9th Jul '16 11:10:30 AM Allronix
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* Worse, if you got the PatchworkFic route? Sam and Jet Bradley would have been something like cousins or brothers, but their respective trips down the cyberspace rabbit hole were ''very'' different, with Sam seeing nothing but hostile AI and Jet seeing mostly sympathetic Programs and HumansAreTheRealMonsters. Jet also may have ''killed'' humans (the Wraiths' survival is questionable, he contributed to Thorne's death, and the F-con trio isn't coming back anytime soon) to protect those Programs. If Sam sees Jet as a traitor to humanity for protecting Programs, and Jet sees Sam as going down the path of people like Crown or Thorne, that could be a tragic and ugly confrontation akin to Marvel's Civil War.

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* Worse, if you got the PatchworkFic route? Sam and Jet Bradley would have been something like cousins or brothers, but their respective trips down the cyberspace rabbit hole were ''very'' different, with Sam seeing nothing but hostile AI and Jet seeing mostly sympathetic Programs and HumansAreTheRealMonsters. Jet also may have ''killed'' humans (the Wraiths' survival is questionable, he contributed to Thorne's death, and the F-con trio isn't coming back anytime soon) to protect those Programs. If Sam sees Jet as a traitor to humanity for protecting Programs, and Jet sees Sam as going down the path of people like Crown or Thorne, that could be a tragic and ugly confrontation akin to Marvel's Civil War. War or the whole Xavier and Magneto frenemy dynamic.


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3rd Jul '16 3:49:07 AM Yashe
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** Though even the CGI-Flynn in the beginning is somewhat justified if you keep in mind, we see that from Sam's point of view. If we treat this as a memory it makes perfect sense that to Sam his bigger than life father who (by Sam's knowledge) abandoned him, doesn't look quite human either.
22nd May '16 8:44:13 AM Allronix
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* Worse, if you got the PatchworkFic route? Sam and Jet Bradley would have been something like cousins or brothers, but their respective trips down the cyberspace rabbit hole were ''very'' different, with Sam seeing nothing but hostile AI and Jet seeing mostly sympathetic Programs and HumansAreTheRealMonsters. Jet also ''killed'' humans to protect those Programs. If Sam sees Jet as a traitor to humanity for protecting Programs, and Jet sees Sam as going down the path of people like Crown or Thorne, that could be a tragic and ugly confrontation akin to Marvel's Civil War.

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* Worse, if you got the PatchworkFic route? Sam and Jet Bradley would have been something like cousins or brothers, but their respective trips down the cyberspace rabbit hole were ''very'' different, with Sam seeing nothing but hostile AI and Jet seeing mostly sympathetic Programs and HumansAreTheRealMonsters. Jet also may have ''killed'' humans (the Wraiths' survival is questionable, he contributed to Thorne's death, and the F-con trio isn't coming back anytime soon) to protect those Programs. If Sam sees Jet as a traitor to humanity for protecting Programs, and Jet sees Sam as going down the path of people like Crown or Thorne, that could be a tragic and ugly confrontation akin to Marvel's Civil War.
5th Mar '16 7:52:33 AM Allronix
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* Worse, if you got the PatchworkFic route? Sam and Jet Bradley would have been something like cousins or brothers, but their respective trips down the cyberspace rabbit hole were ''very'' different, with Sam seeing nothing but hostile AI and Jet seeing mostly sympathetic Programs and HumansAreTheRealMonsters. Jet also ''killed'' humans to protect those Programs. If Sam sees Jet as a traitor to humanity for protecting Programs, and Jet sees Sam as going down the path of people like Crown or Thorne, that could be a tragic and ugly confrontation akin to Marvel's Civil War.
24th Feb '16 1:11:40 PM HamMan6789
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* The visible CGI on CLU's face was supposed to be intentional, right? Then why is it also visible at the very beginning, when a young(er) Kevin is talking to Sam, their last conversation? Unless that conversation takes place immediately after the coup, and CLU is taking advantage of the still-active portal to check out the life of his maker in the outside world. Once he returns to the Grid, he realizes 8 hours later that he can't just come back out whenever he wants, and spends the next thousand or so years planning his return. This definitely adds a new dimension to that intro, knowing that CLU is mocking young Sam while learning about the surface world. He would've been working with Flynn for years and years by that time, so it probably isn't too much of a stretch for him to successfully pretend to be him. Bonus: this also makes their reunion after the Games a hell of a lot creepier, and the relationship between them in general, due to how long CLU has actually been pursuing him. (Of course, this could all just be because no CGI is perfect and it really was the best they could do, but still)
23rd Feb '16 10:51:13 PM HamMan6789
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* The visible CGI on CLU's face was supposed to be intentional, right? Then why is it also visible at the very beginning, when a young(er) Kevin is talking to Sam, their last conversation? Unless that conversation takes place immediately after the coup, and CLU is taking advantage of the still-active portal to check out the life of his maker in the outside world. Once he returns to the Grid, he realizes 8 hours later that he can't just come back out whenever he wants, and spends the next thousand or so years planning his return. This definitely adds a new dimension to that intro, knowing that CLU is mocking young Sam while learning about the surface world. He would've been working with Flynn for years and years by that time, so it probably isn't too much of a stretch for him to successfully pretend to be him. Bonus: this also makes their reunion after the Games a hell of a lot creepier, and the relationship between them in general, due to how long CLU has actually been pursuing him. (Of course, this could all just be because no CGI is perfect and it really was the best they could do, but still)



* The visible CGI on CLU's face was supposed to be intentional, right? Then why is it also visible at the very beginning, when a young(er) Kevin is talking to Sam, their last conversation? Unless that conversation takes place immediately after the coup, and CLU is taking advantage of the still-active portal to check out the life of his maker in the outside world. Once he returns to the Grid, he realizes 8 hours later that he can't just come back out whenever he wants, and spends the next thousand cycles planning his return. This definitely adds a new dimension to that intro, knowing that CLU is mocking young Sam, while learning about the surface world and how Kevin really sees the Grid. He would've been working with Flynn for years and years by that time, so it probably isn't too much of a stretch for him to successfully pretend to be him. Bonus: this also makes their reunion after the Games a hell of a lot creepier, and the relationship between them in general, due to how long CLU has actually been pursuing him. (Of course, this could all just be because no CGI is perfect and it really was the best they could do, but still)
23rd Feb '16 10:42:31 PM HamMan6789
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* The visible CGI on CLU's face was supposed to be intentional, right? Then why is it also visible at the very beginning, when a young(er) Kevin is talking to Sam, their last conversation? Unless that conversation takes place immediately after the coup, and CLU is taking advantage of the still-active portal to check out the life of his maker in the outside world. Once he returns to the Grid, he realizes 8 hours later that he can't just come back out whenever he wants, and spends the next thousand cycles planning his return. This definitely adds a new dimension to that intro, knowing that CLU is lying to a young Sam, and possibly learning just as much as he is (seriously, go back and watch it with this in mind). It also makes their reunion after the Games a hell of a lot creepier. (Of course, this could all just be because no CGI is perfect and it really was the best they could do, but still)

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* The visible CGI on CLU's face was supposed to be intentional, right? Then why is it also visible at the very beginning, when a young(er) Kevin is talking to Sam, their last conversation? Unless that conversation takes place immediately after the coup, and CLU is taking advantage of the still-active portal to check out the life of his maker in the outside world. Once he returns to the Grid, he realizes 8 hours later that he can't just come back out whenever he wants, and spends the next thousand cycles planning his return. This definitely adds a new dimension to that intro, knowing that CLU is lying to a mocking young Sam, and possibly while learning just as about the surface world and how Kevin really sees the Grid. He would've been working with Flynn for years and years by that time, so it probably isn't too much as he is (seriously, go back and watch it with of a stretch for him to successfully pretend to be him. Bonus: this in mind). It also makes their reunion after the Games a hell of a lot creepier.creepier, and the relationship between them in general, due to how long CLU has actually been pursuing him. (Of course, this could all just be because no CGI is perfect and it really was the best they could do, but still)
23rd Feb '16 10:37:52 PM HamMan6789
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* The visible CGI on CLU's face was supposed to be intentional, right? Then why is it also visible at the very beginning, when a young(er) Kevin is talking to Sam, their last conversation? Unless that conversation takes place immediately after CLU's takeover, and he's taking advantage of the still-active portal to check out the life of his maker in the outside world. Once he returns to the Grid, he realizes 8 hours later that he can't just come back out whenever he wants, and spends the next thousand cycles planning his return. This definitely adds a new dimension to that introduction, knowing that CLU is just toying with Sam. It also makes their reunion after the Games a hell of a lot creepier. (Of course, it could just be that no CGI is perfect, but still)

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* The visible CGI on CLU's face was supposed to be intentional, right? Then why is it also visible at the very beginning, when a young(er) Kevin is talking to Sam, their last conversation? Unless that conversation takes place immediately after CLU's takeover, the coup, and he's CLU is taking advantage of the still-active portal to check out the life of his maker in the outside world. Once he returns to the Grid, he realizes 8 hours later that he can't just come back out whenever he wants, and spends the next thousand cycles planning his return. This definitely adds a new dimension to that introduction, intro, knowing that CLU is lying to a young Sam, and possibly learning just toying as much as he is (seriously, go back and watch it with Sam.this in mind). It also makes their reunion after the Games a hell of a lot creepier. (Of course, it this could all just be that because no CGI is perfect, perfect and it really was the best they could do, but still)
23rd Feb '16 10:34:01 PM HamMan6789
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* The visible CGI on CLU's face was supposed to be intentional, right? Then why is it also visible at the very beginning, when a young(er) Kevin is talking to Sam, their last conversation? Unless that conversation takes place immediately after CLU's takeover, and he's taking advantage of the still-active portal to check out the life of his maker in the outside world. Once he returns to the Grid, he realizes 8 hours later that he can't just come back out whenever he wants, and spends the next thousand cycles planning his return. This definitely adds a new dimension to that introduction, knowing that CLU is just toying with Sam. It also makes their reunion after the Games a hell of a lot creepier. (Of course, it could just be that no CGI is perfect, but still)
14th Feb '16 12:40:47 PM Allronix
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* So, Sam Flynn. From the age of birth to six, he learned his dad's fantastic tales of digital wonderlands and BenevolentAI. Then, his dad vanished. He still believed in his father's message and became a PlayfulHacker, but unwilling to take a larger role in Encom. Then, down the digital rabbit hole and his childhood stories are nothing but a nightmare. His father betrayed by Clu, thousands of Programs cheering for his messy death in the arena, Zues and Gem turning out to be scheming bastards, Quorra's tale of narrow escape from genocide, Clu's regime threatening to take over Earth, and his father being killed right in front of him by Clu. Remember, the elder Flynn had to deal with Master Control, but saw more benevolent and benign Programs like Ram, Tron, Yori, and Dumont. Sam saw a never-ending parade of hostile AI; even Tron was warped into an attack dog that nearly slit his throat in front of cheering crowds. Now, he's trudged off into taking the throne at Encom - ''a software company.'' [[HeWhoFightsMonsters He has a position and]] [[GodandSatanAreBothJerks very good reason to become]] [[GodIsEvil a tyrant to the Programs.]]
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