History Fridge / StarTrekNemesis

** Exactly; Shinzon ''does'' have a good track record, but at this point his mind is just as unstable as his body and he's desperately hanging on to what sanity he has left so he doesn't become a drooling, screeching mess.

** Ew.

* Wesley went to a wedding where everyone is naked with his own mother. Try not to let that one sink in whilst eating...

** In short, Shinzon is exactly what he appears to be: essentially a teenage boy trying to act like a man, trying to prove he's better than the original, AND desperately trying to prove his worth period before he expires. This with all the impulses (and desires) that come with that phase, summed up in the appropriate line "All I have ''are'' my personal feelings". [[RealityEnsues And we see him steadily come apart as the film goes on.]]

* B4 may initially jump out as a completely random and/or contradictory part of Data's backstory, but as it turns out, he was indirectly referenced as one of three pre-Lore prototypes built by Dr. Soong.

* B4 may initially jump out as a completely random and/or contradictory part of Data's backstory, but as it turns out, he was indirectly referenced as one of three pre-Lore prototypes built by Dr. Soong.
* A meta example: LeVar Burton was considered to direct "Nemesis" since he was one of the most prolific directors of the various TV shows, but Paramount went over everyone's head and hired Stuart Baird, who was rude and dismissive of Burton throughout filming (even calling him "Laverne" on more than one occasion). Baird hasn't directed a film since "Nemesis" failed, and while it's most likely a coincidence, who used to sit on the board of the Director's Guild? [[LaserGuidedKarma LeVar Burton]].

*** Not that informed really. He needs Picard alive, so he's obviously not shooting to kill on the Enterprise (only after the collision does he decide to go with a TakingYouWithMe approach, since he's basically dead anyway.) Notice that he dispatched the two Romulan warbirds in fairly short order, including one PlayingDead trick on the supposedly seasoned captain.

!FridgeLogic
* Minor one, during Deanna's search for the Scimitar by mind-locating the viceroy. Why the need to play handsies with Worf? Didn't she go through a long and taxing bridge commander test way back when? Surely there was a chapter involving manning the tactical console.
** That was on a Galaxy-class ship, though, and by Nemesis it's been ten years since then. There is probably a recertification process for bridge officers (especially when transitioning to an entirely different class) and it doesn't seem out of character for Troi (who struggled so hard the first time and clearly didn't require it to fulfill her duties beforehand) to quietly opt-out
** Alternatively, considering its a major tactical situation, maybe it was more efficient? The battle was unlikely to be decided by that one shot, so as soon as the Scimitar decloaked, Worf would have to take back over anyway and they'd lose valuable seconds in Troi stepping aside and him stepping up compared to her just taking her hand away. Also, if the Scimitar was able to recloak again, they'd have to do it all over again, costing more seconds. Also, iirc (unless I'm remembering fanon as canon) - doesn't the LCARS interface used in TNG era ships mean that each officer can reconfigure the interface to their personal preferences? Maybe Worf's preferences are non-standard and to avoid confusion, Troi was also using her abilities on Worf to direct him rather than trying to figure out the consol herself.
* Shinzon has a grudge against the Romulans for creating him, lumbering him with a genetic disease, and consigning him to a life of misery in the Reman mines. Therefore, he wants to utterly annihilate... er, Earth.
** This was explained somewhat in the chunk of footage that was left on the editing room floor. Shinzon's lifespan was going to be pretty short even if he had succeeded in stealing Picard's blood, and he in fact killed most those responsible for his creation when he took out the Romulan Senate. His main goal was in fact to go down in history by destroying Earth, which would bring about the collapse of the Federation government and pave the way for a full-scale Romulan invasion. A bit of a hackneyed motive to be sure, but it makes ''much'' more sense than what we got.
** His talk about the Remans being a race "bred for war" implies that he and they are basically a bunch of [[BloodKnight Blood Knights]] who want to start a war, this time on their own terms and not as slaves of the Romulan Empire. By extension they can be read as trying to show the Romulans up, taking out the Federation in one shot after centuries of similar Romulan plots failed. It's still pretty vague, though.
** The Enterprise received six positronic signals, but only one of Data's components (his postrionic brain) would register such a signal. Each of B-4's parts also apparently has its own power source, if the "zombie hand from the sand" is any indicator.
* Why isn't Worf the one to go on the suicide run on the Reman ship? He lived through the last big war, and his religion actually ''requires'' him to seek a glorious death. In the other movies Picard being the one to go in is due to circumstances or necessity, but here it makes no sense.
** Because he was still fighting off the Reman boarding partym and in the novelization, a bad disruptor hit forced him into Sickbay; he was completely occupied in either case. Plus, he wasn't even on the bridge when Picard announced this decision, so he couldn't object even if he wanted to.
* Shinzon's MilitaryCoup makes very little sense in terms of the larger ''Franchise/StarTrek'' setting. How did the conspirators manage to get their conspiracy past the Tal Shiar, the ''notoriously'' intrusive StateSec agency of the Romulan Star Empire (who in particular have a nasty InterServiceRivalry with the regular military)? How were they planning to pass a human off as praetor to the frankly [[FantasticRacism quite racist]] Romulans, and how were they to explain where in the hell he came from and why he's using what ought to be SlaveMooks as his private army?
** The Tal Shiar had been largely obliterated during the Deep Space Nine episode "The Die is Cast". While this was several years later, chances are it never regained the prominence it once had. After all, the later episode "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges" featured a number of Section 31 agents working to manipulate the Romulan political structure, seemingly unopposed by the Tal Shiar.
*** Though that meddling occurring unopposed by the Tal Shiar does have another explanation that indicates the Tal Shiar did regain some of its prominence... as it turns out the plot was meant to strengthen the influence of the chairman ''of'' the Tal Shiar, since he turns out to be a Federation agent -- and may well have been a Section 31 operative even before he went a bit more official. It is possible that if the Tal Shiar did find evidence of the coup beforehand, Section 31 may have instructed Koval to bury the evidence and let the coup go ahead as a way to destabilise the Romulan Star Empire.
* Admittedly, he doesn't want the promotion, but in what just universe is Captain Jean-Luc Picard, saviour of the Federation on more than one occasion, taking orders from a two-bit vice-admiral who was ''not even born'' when he was promoted to Captain and managed to screw up the one mission she had been officially given by Starfleet in seven years of Captaincy? (That is, search, locate, and apprehend a ship containing marquis and crew.) What does this say about the quality of Starfleet's Admirals???
** Picard was offered promotion to admiral TWICE during TNG. He turned it down both times, because he liked being a starship captain and didn't want a desk job. It was also hinted (but not directly stated) that he had been offered admiral even before he took command of the 1701-D. It's also very likely (but again not directly stated) that he was offered admiral again during the Dominion War (also turning it down). When Janeway got back from the Delta quadrant, it was shortly after the Dominion War ended (a war that caused the Federation to lose a LOT of people). Starfleet was a lot more desperate for people then, and Janeway just happened to take the first promotion that was offered her, while Picard didn't. It's also very likely that Janeway was KickedUpstairs, because while she did get Voyager home, she was never a very effective captain or leader. Also, at the end of Generations, Kirk WARNED Picard. "Don't let them promote you or transfer you. You belong on the bridge of that ship." Kirk had firsthand experience with losing his starship command by being promoted to Admiral.
** That they reward people who unite two hostile crews, cross a considerable portion of a hostile, uncharted quadrant, making friendly contact with dozens of species, saved the galaxy from a species from another dimension or two and crippled the borg? And they don't punish people for getting grabbed by hyper advanced technology against their will. And hell, she DID bring them back like she was supposed to.
** Some people, like Website/SFDebris, have theorized that Janeway had gotten so exhausted after many years stranded in the Delta Quadrant that she couldn't ''bear'' to take another command, let alone immediately after finally getting home. Or that she was KickedUpstairs to get rid of her.
** Also, Starfleet may have figured that Picard is far more useful out there "on the field" than chained to a desk job. Picard has been the best at being the flag ship's captain since Kirk, and they want to profit from that as long as possible.
** And then there is the lingering delicate issue of Picard's history with the Borg. At this point, they might not ''want'' him to be an Admiral, figuring it's much safer to just let him continue in a prestigious posting which is both relatively limited in terms to how much damage he could potentially do to the Federation and which has the bonus of keeping him perfectly content. If he's happy galloping around the cosmos and they're happy not having him in command of a full fleet or facing the potential PR splashback of benching their most famous captain, it sounds like everybody wins.
** Janeway is also more career-oriented than Kirk and Picard were. Now, that may sound strange since both of them could be trope namers for MarriedToTheJob, but the job they're married too is ''starship captain'', not just "person in Starfleet." They want to command a ship, not run an astrometrics department or manage a fleet of a dozen ships. Janeway is married to the job of being in Starfleet, which means doing her best as a science officer before she became a Captain, doing her best as a Captain in frankly impossible circumstances, and then accepting a promotion to admiral and doing her best at that.
* Why does the Argo buggy exist in the form that we see it in? No anti-gravity, no sensors, a gun that needs to be manually targeted, no shields, no forcefield, not even a roof with polarised armour plating. It is really hard not to look at this thing and wonder if a 20th century Humvee could quite easily best it despite being divided by 400 years of technological advancement.

*** Though that meddling occurring unopposed by the Tal Shiar does have another explanation that indicates the Tal Shiar did regain some of its prominence... [[spoiler: as it turns out the plot was meant to strengthen the influence of the chairman ''of'' the Tal Shiar, since he turns out to be a Federation agent -- and may well have been a Section 31 operative even before he went a bit more official]]. It is possible that if the Tal Shiar did find evidence of the coup beforehand, [[spoiler: Section 31 may have instructed Koval to bury the evidence and let the coup go ahead as a way to destabilise the Romulan Star Empire]].

* B4 may initially jump out as a completely random and/or contradictory part of Data's backstory, but as it turns out, he was indirectly referenced as one of three pre-Lore prototypes built by Dr. Soong.

** The Tal Shiar had been largely obliterated during the Deep Space Nine episode "The Die is Cast". While this was several years later, chances are it never regained the prominence it once had. After all, the later episode "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges" featured a number of Section 31 agents working to manipulate the Romulan poltical structure, seemingly unopposed by the Tal Shiar.

* B4 may initially jump out as a completely random and/or contradictory part of Data's backstory, but as it turns out, he was indirectly referenced as one of three pre-Lore prototypes built by Dr. Soong.

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* B4 may initially jump out as a completely random and/or contradictory part of Data's backstory, but as it turns out, he was indirectly referenced as one of three pre-Lore prototypes built by Dr. Soong.

! FridgeHorror

** In short, Shinzon is exactly what he appears to be: essentially a teenage boy trying to act like a man, trying to prove he's better than the original, AND desperately trying to prove his worth period before he expires. This with all the impulses (and desires) that come with that phase, summed up in the appropriate line "All I have ''are'' my personal feelings". [[RealityEnsues And we see him steadily come apart as the film goes on.]]

* Minor one, during Deanna's search for the Scimitar by mind-locating the viceroy. Why the need to play handsies with Worf? Didn't she go through a long and taxing bridge commander test way back when? Surely there was a chapter involving manning the tactical console.
** That was on a Galaxy-class ship, though, and by Nemesis it's been ten years since then. There is probably a recertification process for bridge officers (especially when transitioning to an entirely different class) and it doesn't seem out of character for Troi (who struggled so hard the first time and clearly didn't require it to fulfill her duties beforehand) to quietly opt-out
** Alternatively, considering its a major tactical situation, maybe it was more efficient? The battle was unlikely to be decided by that one shot, so as soon as the Scimitar decloaked, Worf would have to take back over anyway and they'd lose valuable seconds in Troi stepping aside and him stepping up compared to her just taking her hand away. Also, if the Scimitar was able to recloak again, they'd have to do it all over again, costing more seconds. Also, iirc (unless I'm remembering fanon as canon) - doesn't the LCARS interface used in TNG era ships mean that each officer can reconfigure the interface to their personal preferences? Maybe Worf's preferences are non-standard and to avoid confusion, Troi was also using her abilities on Worf to direct him rather than trying to figure out the consol herself.
* Shinzon has a grudge against the Romulans for creating him, lumbering him with a genetic disease, and consigning him to a life of misery in the Reman mines. Therefore, he wants to utterly annihilate... er, Earth.
** This was explained somewhat in the chunk of footage that was left on the editing room floor. Shinzon's lifespan was going to be pretty short even if he had succeeded in stealing Picard's blood, and he in fact killed most those responsible for his creation when he took out the Romulan Senate. His main goal was in fact to go down in history by destroying Earth, which would bring about the collapse of the Federation government and pave the way for a full-scale Romulan invasion. A bit of a hackneyed motive to be sure, but it makes ''much'' more sense than what we got.
** His talk about the Remans being a race "bred for war" implies that he and they are basically a bunch of [[BloodKnight Blood Knights]] who want to start a war, this time on their own terms and not as slaves of the Romulan Empire. By extension they can be read as trying to show the Romulans up, taking out the Federation in one shot after centuries of similar Romulan plots failed. It's still pretty vague, though.
** The Enterprise received six positronic signals, but only one of Data's components (his postrionic brain) would register such a signal. Each of B-4's parts also apparently has its own power source, if the "zombie hand from the sand" is any indicator.
* Why isn't Worf the one to go on the suicide run on the Reman ship? He lived through the last big war, and his religion actually ''requires'' him to seek a glorious death. In the other movies Picard being the one to go in is due to circumstances or necessity, but here it makes no sense.
** Because he was still fighting off the Reman boarding partym and in the novelization, a bad disruptor hit forced him into Sickbay; he was completely occupied in either case. Plus, he wasn't even on the bridge when Picard announced this decision, so he couldn't object even if he wanted to.
* Shinzon's MilitaryCoup makes very little sense in terms of the larger ''Franchise/StarTrek'' setting. How did the conspirators manage to get their conspiracy past the Tal Shiar, the ''notoriously'' intrusive StateSec agency of the Romulan Star Empire (who in particular have a nasty InterServiceRivalry with the regular military)? How were they planning to pass a human off as praetor to the frankly [[FantasticRacism quite racist]] Romulans, and how were they to explain where in the hell he came from and why he's using what ought to be SlaveMooks as his private army?
** They literally state earlier in the movie that he must have had Romulan collaborators.

* Admittedly, he doesn't want the promotion, but in what just universe is Captain Jean-Luc Picard, saviour of the Federation on more than one occasion, taking orders from a two-bit vice-admiral who was ''not even born'' when he was promoted to Captain and managed to screw up the one mission she had been officially given by Starfleet in seven years of Captaincy? (That is, search, locate, and apprehend a ship containing marquis and crew.) What does this say about the quality of Starfleet's Admirals???
** Picard was offered promotion to admiral TWICE during TNG. He turned it down both times, because he liked being a starship captain and didn't want a desk job. It was also hinted (but not directly stated) that he had been offered admiral even before he took command of the 1701-D. It's also very likely (but again not directly stated) that he was offered admiral again during the Dominion War (also turning it down). When Janeway got back from the Delta quadrant, it was shortly after the Dominion War ended (a war that caused the Federation to lose a LOT of people). Starfleet was a lot more desperate for people then, and Janeway just happened to take the first promotion that was offered her, while Picard didn't. It's also very likely that Janeway was KickedUpstairs, because while she did get Voyager home, she was never a very effective captain or leader. Also, at the end of Generations, Kirk WARNED Picard. "Don't let them promote you or transfer you. You belong on the bridge of that ship." Kirk had firsthand experience with losing his starship command by being promoted to Admiral.
** That they reward people who unite two hostile crews, cross a considerable portion of a hostile, uncharted quadrant, making friendly contact with dozens of species, saved the galaxy from a species from another dimension or two and crippled the borg? And they don't punish people for getting grabbed by hyper advanced technology against their will. And hell, she DID bring them back like she was supposed to.
** Some people, like Website/SFDebris, have theorized that Janeway had gotten so exhausted after many years stranded in the Delta Quadrant that she couldn't ''bear'' to take another command, let alone immediately after finally getting home. Or that she was KickedUpstairs to get rid of her.
** Also, Starfleet may have figured that Picard is far more useful out there "on the field" than chained to a desk job. Picard has been the best at being the flag ship's captain since Kirk, and they want to profit from that as long as possible.