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Mortianna's plan - The reason it isn't well thought out because it... isn't well thought out...


** Mortianna's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how Medieval Sheriffs were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that he had to be recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even if they did that, then it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortianna could had gone through all that with no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. Even then, the movie never explains how she thought that making her [[spoiler:son]] become a civil servant would have helped her cause in the first place. Also, her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - Richard already had many legitimate heirs (including a brother and nephew) whose claims would come before any child of Marian's would have ever been considered. So this wouldn't have worked unless they were planning of murdering everyone whose claim to the throne was higher, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on after the first few had died. This could have also led to a long drawn-out war with other families, and even countries - some French Dukes would have had just as good a claim - which is unlikely that Mortianna and the Sheriff could have won, considering the trouble they are having with a rag tag bunch of outlaws. If Mortianna was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?

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** Mortianna's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how Medieval Sheriffs were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that he had to be recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even if they did that, then it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortianna could had gone through all that with no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. Even then, the movie never explains how she thought that making her [[spoiler:son]] become a civil servant would have helped her cause in the first place. Also, her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - Richard already had many legitimate heirs (including a brother and nephew) whose claims would come before any child of Marian's would have ever been considered. So this wouldn't have worked unless they were planning of murdering everyone whose claim to the throne was higher, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on after the first few had died. This could have also led to a long drawn-out war with other families, and even countries - some French Dukes would have had just as good a claim - which is unlikely that Mortianna and the Sheriff could have won, considering the trouble they are having with a rag tag bunch of outlaws. If Mortianna was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?succession?
*** This has all the earmarks of a slow progression into madness rather than a carefully-thought-out Batman Gambit developed over the course of a few months and put meticulously into action. She likely took the first step out of desperation and revenge, and then developed her slow notions of grandeur as he rose through the ranks.
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*** I agree that Will’s mother must have been living on Locksley land for her to have caught Lord Locksley’s eye, but I was under the impression that she then moved away from the area when Lord Locksley broke it off with her over Robin, and went back to her life as a peasant somewhere else, where she gave birth to Will (This might also explain why neither Lord Locksley or Robin realised she was pregnant: if she was in the early stages when she left, she wouldn’t have been showing, and if she wasn’t living on their lands anymore, they wouldn’t have seen her baby bump getting bigger, and put 2 and 2 together). Some of the original ballads mention Will as coming from Worksop, so she could have fled to there, but since the movie never mentions whereabouts Locksley Manor is within Nottinghamshire (It could be close to Worksop, or it could be on the other side of the county), nor where Will is actually from, other than vague hints that it’s the surrounding area, it’s hard to know for sure whether they grew up near each other, hence my query about them having the same unique accent that none of the other merry men, who are also presumably meant to be local to the areas surrounding Sherwood Forest, do.

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*** I agree that Will’s mother must have been living on Locksley land for her to have caught Lord Locksley’s eye, but I was under the impression that she then moved away from the area when Lord Locksley broke it off with her over Robin, and went back to her life as a peasant somewhere else, where she gave birth to Will (This might also explain why neither Lord Locksley or Robin realised she was pregnant: if she was in the early stages when she left, she wouldn’t have been showing, and if she wasn’t living on their lands anymore, they wouldn’t have seen her baby bump getting bigger, and put 2 and 2 together). Some of the original ballads mention Will as coming from Worksop, a place called Maxfield (possibly Mansfield, Notts), so she could have fled to there, but since the movie never mentions whereabouts Locksley Manor is within Nottinghamshire (It could be close to Worksop, Maxfield/Mansfield, or it could be on the other side of the county), nor where Will is actually from, other than vague hints that it’s the surrounding area, it’s hard to know for sure whether they grew up near each other, hence my query about them having the same unique accent that none of the other merry men, who are also presumably meant to be local to the areas surrounding Sherwood Forest, do.
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*** I agree that Will’s mother must have been living on Locksley land for her to have caught Lord Locksley’s eye, but I was under the impression that she then moved away from the area when Lord Locksley broke it off with her over Robin, and went back to her life as a peasant somewhere else, where she gave birth to Will (This might also explain why neither Lord Locksley or Robin realised she was pregnant: if she was in the early stages when she left, she wouldn’t have been showing, and if wasn’t living on their lands anymore, they wouldn’t have seen her baby bump getting bigger). Some of the original ballads mention Will as coming from Worksop, so she could have fled to there, but since the movie never mentions whereabouts Locksley Manor is within Nottinghamshire (It could be close to Worksop, or it could be on the other side of the county), nor where Will is actually from, other than vague hints that it’s the surrounding area, it’s hard to know for sure whether they grew up near each other, hence my query about them having the same unique accent that none of the other merry men, who are also presumably meant to be local to the areas surrounding Sherwood Forest, do.

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*** I agree that Will’s mother must have been living on Locksley land for her to have caught Lord Locksley’s eye, but I was under the impression that she then moved away from the area when Lord Locksley broke it off with her over Robin, and went back to her life as a peasant somewhere else, where she gave birth to Will (This might also explain why neither Lord Locksley or Robin realised she was pregnant: if she was in the early stages when she left, she wouldn’t have been showing, and if she wasn’t living on their lands anymore, they wouldn’t have seen her baby bump getting bigger).bigger, and put 2 and 2 together). Some of the original ballads mention Will as coming from Worksop, so she could have fled to there, but since the movie never mentions whereabouts Locksley Manor is within Nottinghamshire (It could be close to Worksop, or it could be on the other side of the county), nor where Will is actually from, other than vague hints that it’s the surrounding area, it’s hard to know for sure whether they grew up near each other, hence my query about them having the same unique accent that none of the other merry men, who are also presumably meant to be local to the areas surrounding Sherwood Forest, do.
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*** I agree that Will’s mother must have been living on Locksley land for her to have caught Lord Locksley’s eye, but I was under the impression that she then moved away from the area when Lord Locksley broke it off with her over Robin, and went back to her life as a peasant somewhere else, where she then gave birth to Will. Some of the original ballads mention Will as coming from Worksop, so she could have fled to there, but since the movie never mentions whereabouts Locksley Manor is within Nottinghamshire (It could be close to Worksop, or it could be on the other side of the county), nor where Will is actually from, other than vague hints that it’s the surrounding area, it’s hard to know for sure whether they grew up near each other, hence my query about them having the same unique accent that none of the other merry men, who are also presumably meant to be local to the areas surrounding Sherwood Forest, do.

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*** **** I agree that Will’s mother must have been living on Locksley land for her to have caught Lord Locksley’s eye, but I was under the impression that she then moved away from the area when Lord Locksley broke it off with her over Robin, and went back to her life as a peasant somewhere else, where she then gave birth to Will.Will (This might also explain why neither Lord Locksley or Robin realised she was pregnant: if she was in the early stages when she left, she wouldn’t have been showing, and if wasn’t living on their lands anymore, they wouldn’t have seen her baby bump getting bigger). Some of the original ballads mention Will as coming from Worksop, so she could have fled to there, but since the movie never mentions whereabouts Locksley Manor is within Nottinghamshire (It could be close to Worksop, or it could be on the other side of the county), nor where Will is actually from, other than vague hints that it’s the surrounding area, it’s hard to know for sure whether they grew up near each other, hence my query about them having the same unique accent that none of the other merry men, who are also presumably meant to be local to the areas surrounding Sherwood Forest, do.
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*** I agree that Will’s mother must have been living on Locksley land for her to have caught Lord Locksley’s eye, but I was under the impression that she then moved away from the area when Lord Locksley broke it off with her over Robin, and went back to her life as a peasant somewhere else where she gave birth to Will. Some of the original ballads mention Will as coming from Worksop, so she could have fled to there, but since the movie never mentions whereabouts Locksley Manor is within Nottinghamshire (It could be close to Worksop, or it could on the other side of the county), nor where Will is actually from, other vague hints that it’s the surrounding area, it’s hard to know for sure whether they grew up near each other, hence my query about them having the same unique accent that none of the other merry men, who are also presumably local to the areas surrounding Sherwood Forest, do.

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*** I agree that Will’s mother must have been living on Locksley land for her to have caught Lord Locksley’s eye, but I was under the impression that she then moved away from the area when Lord Locksley broke it off with her over Robin, and went back to her life as a peasant somewhere else else, where she then gave birth to Will. Some of the original ballads mention Will as coming from Worksop, so she could have fled to there, but since the movie never mentions whereabouts Locksley Manor is within Nottinghamshire (It could be close to Worksop, or it could be on the other side of the county), nor where Will is actually from, other than vague hints that it’s the surrounding area, it’s hard to know for sure whether they grew up near each other, hence my query about them having the same unique accent that none of the other merry men, who are also presumably meant to be local to the areas surrounding Sherwood Forest, do.



** Mortianna's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how Medieval Sheriffs were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that he had to be recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even if they did that, then it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortianna could had gone through all that with no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. Even then, the movie never explains how she thought that making her [[spoiler:son]] become a civil servant would have helped her cause in the first place. Also, her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - Richard already had many legitimate heirs (including a brother and nephew) whose claims would come before any child of Marian's would have ever been considered. So this wouldn't have worked unless they were planning of murdering everyone whose claim to the throne was higher, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on after the first few had died. This could have also led to a long drawn-out war with other families, and even countries - some French Dukes would have had just as good a claim - which it's unlikely that Mortianna and the Sheriff could have won. If Mortianna was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?

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** Mortianna's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how Medieval Sheriffs were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that he had to be recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even if they did that, then it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortianna could had gone through all that with no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. Even then, the movie never explains how she thought that making her [[spoiler:son]] become a civil servant would have helped her cause in the first place. Also, her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - Richard already had many legitimate heirs (including a brother and nephew) whose claims would come before any child of Marian's would have ever been considered. So this wouldn't have worked unless they were planning of murdering everyone whose claim to the throne was higher, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on after the first few had died. This could have also led to a long drawn-out war with other families, and even countries - some French Dukes would have had just as good a claim - which it's is unlikely that Mortianna and the Sheriff could have won.won, considering the trouble they are having with a rag tag bunch of outlaws. If Mortianna was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?
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*** Agreed that Will’s mother must have been living on Locksley land for her to have caught Lord Locksley’s eye, but I was under the impression that she then moved away from the estate when Lord Locksley broke it off with her over Robin, and went back to her life as a peasant somewhere else where she gave birth - some of the original ballads mention Will as coming from Worksop, so she could have fled to there, but since the movie never mentions whereabouts Locksley Manor is within Nottingham, nor where Will is actually from, other vague hints that it’s the surrounding area, but it’s hard to know for sure - hence my query about them having the same accent.

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*** Agreed **** I agree that Will’s mother must have been living on Locksley land for her to have caught Lord Locksley’s eye, but I was under the impression that she then moved away from the estate area when Lord Locksley broke it off with her over Robin, and went back to her life as a peasant somewhere else where she gave birth - some to Will. Some of the original ballads mention Will as coming from Worksop, so she could have fled to there, but since the movie never mentions whereabouts Locksley Manor is within Nottingham, Nottinghamshire (It could be close to Worksop, or it could on the other side of the county), nor where Will is actually from, other vague hints that it’s the surrounding area, but it’s hard to know for sure - whether they grew up near each other, hence my query about them having the same accent.unique accent that none of the other merry men, who are also presumably local to the areas surrounding Sherwood Forest, do.
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*** There is a dialect of French spoken on UsefulNotes/TheChannelIslands that is probably the closest of any modern French to Anglo-Norman French, but no production is going to get their actors learn a obscure language that only a few thousand people actually speak, unless they were really going for accuracy or it was especially made for those speakers.

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*** There is a dialect of French spoken on UsefulNotes/TheChannelIslands that is probably the closest of any modern French to Anglo-Norman French, but no production is not many productions are going to get their actors learn a obscure language that only a few thousand people actually speak, unless they were really going for accuracy or it was especially made for those speakers.



*** Agreed that Will’s mother must have been living on Locksley land for her to have caught Lord Locksley’s eye, but I was under the impression that she then moved away from the estate when Lord Locksley broke it off with her over Robin, and went back to her life as a peasant somewhere else (some of the original ballads mention Will as coming from Worksop, but I’m not sure where the Lockesley estate was meant to be in Nottinghamshire as the movie never mentions a town it’s by), hence my query about them having the same accent.

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*** Agreed that Will’s mother must have been living on Locksley land for her to have caught Lord Locksley’s eye, but I was under the impression that she then moved away from the estate when Lord Locksley broke it off with her over Robin, and went back to her life as a peasant somewhere else (some where she gave birth - some of the original ballads mention Will as coming from Worksop, so she could have fled to there, but I’m not sure where the Lockesley estate was meant to be in Nottinghamshire as since the movie never mentions a town whereabouts Locksley Manor is within Nottingham, nor where Will is actually from, other vague hints that it’s by), the surrounding area, but it’s hard to know for sure - hence my query about them having the same accent.
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**** Agreed that Will’s mother must have been living on Locksley land for her to have caught Lord Locksley’s eye, but I was under the impression that she then moved away from the estate when Lord Locksley broke it off with her over Robin, and went back to her life as a peasant somewhere else (some of the original ballads mention Will as coming from Worksop, but I’m not sure where the Lockesley estate was meant to be in Nottinghamshire as the movie never mentions a town it’s by), hence my query about them having the same accent.
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** Robin is several years older than Will, so they ''could'' have grown up in the same town without actually meeting (especially since Robin was noble and Will was not), but it's unclear at best. But it stands to reason that Will's mother must have come from someplace at least reasonably close to Locksley; otherwise, how would Robin's father have ever met her, let alone fathered a child with her?

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** *** Robin is several years older than Will, so they ''could'' have grown up in the same town without actually meeting (especially since Robin was noble and Will was not), but it's unclear at best. But it stands to reason that Will's mother must have come from someplace at least reasonably close to Locksley; otherwise, how would Robin's father have ever met her, let alone fathered a child with her?

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** Why were they even speaking with the same accent in the first place ([[NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent apart from the obvious explanation]])? Your accent is set by listening to your parent’s speech, how the people around you talk, and the area you grew up in, though it is possible to lose an accent or for it to change over time, that would only be if you move to a different geographic area, and know what that other accent sounds like, so you can pick it up. Will knows who Robin is presumably from what his Mother has told him, and from stories he has heard about him, however Robin has no idea who Will is until they meet for the first time by the river, and even then he doesn’t know who he ''really'' is until near the end of the movie. This suggests that they didn’t grow up on the same estate or even the same town. The rest of Merry Men, who are presumably all from the areas local to Sherwood Forest, don’t speak with same accent either (They do, however, speak with the full gamut of English regional accents, due the British actors themselves speaking with their own natural voices, but that’s probably a for different discussion…), so how on earth did Will end up with the same accent as Robin if they didn’t grow up together, and never knew each other, and Will only had very limited contact, if any at all, with their shared father, who also didn’t speak with the same accent, and had no contact with anyone else who spoke like that (Since there is no suggestion that his mother had the same accent, and Robin's accent would have been set way before she was on the scene anyway)?

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** Why were they even speaking with the same accent in the first place ([[NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent apart from the obvious explanation]])? Your accent is set by listening to your parent’s parents' speech, how the people around you talk, and the area where you grew up in, though up. While it is possible to lose an accent or for it to change over time, that would only be happen if you move to a different geographic area, and know what that other accent sounds like, so you can pick it up. Will knows who Robin is is, presumably from what his Mother mother has told him, and from stories he has heard about him, however him; however, Robin has no idea who Will is until they meet for the first time by the river, and even then he doesn’t know who he ''really'' is until near the end of the movie. This suggests that they didn’t grow up on the same estate or even the same town. estate. The rest of Merry Men, who are presumably all from the areas local to Sherwood Forest, don’t speak with same accent either (They either[[note]](they do, however, speak with the full gamut of English regional accents, due the British actors themselves speaking with their own natural voices, but that’s probably a for different discussion…), discussion…)[[/note]], so how on earth did Will end up with the same accent as Robin if they didn’t grow up together, and never knew each other, and Will only had very limited contact, if any at all, with their shared father, who also didn’t speak with the same accent, and had no contact with anyone else who spoke like that (Since there that?
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** Mortiana's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Sheriff's were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that he had to be recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even if they did that, then it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. Even then, the movie never explains how she thought that making her [[spoiler:son]] become a civil servant would have helped her cause in the first place. Also, her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - there were already many more legitimate (including a brother and nephew) claims before any would be child's of Marian would have ever been considered, unless they were planning of murdering everyone of them, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on after the first few had died. This could have also led to a long drawn out war with other families, and countries (Some French Duke's would have had just a good a claim.), which many a disputed claim to the crown has caused, that they may not have even won. If Mortiana was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?

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** Mortiana's Mortianna's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Sheriff's Sheriffs were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that he had to be recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even if they did that, then it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortiana Mortianna could had gone through all that will with no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. Even then, the movie never explains how she thought that making her [[spoiler:son]] become a civil servant would have helped her cause in the first place. Also, her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - there were Richard already had many more legitimate heirs (including a brother and nephew) whose claims would come before any would be child's child of Marian Marian's would have ever been considered, considered. So this wouldn't have worked unless they were planning of murdering everyone of them, whose claim to the throne was higher, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on after the first few had died. This could have also led to a long drawn out drawn-out war with other families, and even countries (Some - some French Duke's Dukes would have had just a as good a claim.), claim - which many a disputed claim to the crown has caused, it's unlikely that they may not Mortianna and the Sheriff could have even won. If Mortiana Mortianna was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?
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** Many linguists theorize that the American accent (or indeed, something that sounds similar to it)actually ''is'' the original British accent.

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** Many linguists theorize that the American accent actually ''is'' the original British accent.

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** Why were they even speaking with the same accent in the first place ([[NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent apart from the obvious explanation]])? Your accent is set by listening to your parent’s speech, how the people around you talk, and the area you grew up in, though it is possible to lose an accent or for it to change over time, that would only be if you move to a different geographic area, and know what that other accent sounds like, so you can pick it up. So, if you think about it, Will knows who Robin is presumably from what his Mother has told him, and from stories he has heard about him, however Robin has no idea who Will is until they meet for the first time by the river, and even then he doesn’t know who he ''really'' is until near the end of the movie. This suggests that they didn’t grow up on the same estate or even the same town. The rest of Merry Men, who are presumably all from the areas local to Sherwood Forest, don’t speak with same accent either (They do, however, speak with the full gamut of English regional accents, due the British actors themselves speaking with their own natural voices, but that’s probably a for different discussion…), so how on earth did Will end up with the same accent as Robin if they didn’t grow up together, and never knew each other, and Will only had very limited contact, if any at all, with their shared father, who also didn’t speak with the same accent, and had no contact with anyone else who spoke like that (Since there is no suggestion that his mother had the same accent, and Robin's accent would have been set way before she was on the scene anyway)?

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** Why were they even speaking with the same accent in the first place ([[NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent apart from the obvious explanation]])? Your accent is set by listening to your parent’s speech, how the people around you talk, and the area you grew up in, though it is possible to lose an accent or for it to change over time, that would only be if you move to a different geographic area, and know what that other accent sounds like, so you can pick it up. So, if you think about it, Will knows who Robin is presumably from what his Mother has told him, and from stories he has heard about him, however Robin has no idea who Will is until they meet for the first time by the river, and even then he doesn’t know who he ''really'' is until near the end of the movie. This suggests that they didn’t grow up on the same estate or even the same town. The rest of Merry Men, who are presumably all from the areas local to Sherwood Forest, don’t speak with same accent either (They do, however, speak with the full gamut of English regional accents, due the British actors themselves speaking with their own natural voices, but that’s probably a for different discussion…), so how on earth did Will end up with the same accent as Robin if they didn’t grow up together, and never knew each other, and Will only had very limited contact, if any at all, with their shared father, who also didn’t speak with the same accent, and had no contact with anyone else who spoke like that (Since there is no suggestion that his mother had the same accent, and Robin's accent would have been set way before she was on the scene anyway)?
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** Mortiana's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Sheriff's were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that he had to be recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even if they did that, then it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. Even then, the movie never explains how she thought that making her [[spoiler:son]] become a civil servant would have helped her cause in the first place. Also her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - there were already many more legitimate (including a brother and nephew) claims before any would be child's of Marian would have ever been considered, unless they were planning of murdering everyone of them, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on after the first few had died. This could have also led to a long drawn out war with other families, and countries (Some French Duke's would have had just a good a claim.), which many a disputed claim to the crown has caused, that they may not have even won. If Mortiana was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?

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** Mortiana's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Sheriff's were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that he had to be recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even if they did that, then it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. Even then, the movie never explains how she thought that making her [[spoiler:son]] become a civil servant would have helped her cause in the first place. Also Also, her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - there were already many more legitimate (including a brother and nephew) claims before any would be child's of Marian would have ever been considered, unless they were planning of murdering everyone of them, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on after the first few had died. This could have also led to a long drawn out war with other families, and countries (Some French Duke's would have had just a good a claim.), which many a disputed claim to the crown has caused, that they may not have even won. If Mortiana was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?
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** Mortiana's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Sheriff's were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that he had to be recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even if they did that, then it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. Even then, the movie never explains how she thought that making her [[spoiler:son]] become a civil servant would have helped her cause in the first place. Also her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - there were already many more legitimate (including a brother and nephew) claims before any would be child's of Marian would have been even considered, unless they were planning of murdering everyone of them, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on. This could have also led to a long drawn out war with other families, and countries (Some French Duke's would have had just a good a claim.), which many a disputed claim to the crown has caused, that they may not have even won. If Mortiana was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?

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** Mortiana's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Sheriff's were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that he had to be recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even if they did that, then it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. Even then, the movie never explains how she thought that making her [[spoiler:son]] become a civil servant would have helped her cause in the first place. Also her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - there were already many more legitimate (including a brother and nephew) claims before any would be child's of Marian would have ever been even considered, unless they were planning of murdering everyone of them, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on.on after the first few had died. This could have also led to a long drawn out war with other families, and countries (Some French Duke's would have had just a good a claim.), which many a disputed claim to the crown has caused, that they may not have even won. If Mortiana was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?
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** Mortiana's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Sheriff's were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that he had to be recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even if they did that, then it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. Also her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - there were already many more legitimate (including a brother and nephew) claims before any would be child's of Marian would have been even considered, unless they were planning of murdering everyone of them, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on. This could have also led to a long drawn out war with other families, and countries (Some French Duke's would have had just a good a claim.) that they may not have won. If Mortiana was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?

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** Mortiana's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Sheriff's were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that he had to be recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even if they did that, then it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. Even then, the movie never explains how she thought that making her [[spoiler:son]] become a civil servant would have helped her cause in the first place. Also her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - there were already many more legitimate (including a brother and nephew) claims before any would be child's of Marian would have been even considered, unless they were planning of murdering everyone of them, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on. This could have also led to a long drawn out war with other families, and countries (Some French Duke's would have had just a good a claim.) ), which many a disputed claim to the crown has caused, that they may not have even won. If Mortiana was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?
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** Mortiana's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Sheriff's were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that he had to be recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even if they did that, then it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. The film also never explains why she thought that getting the Sheriff into that position would have even led to them becoming part of Royalty in the first place. Yes, the Sheriff may have been honoured by the King if he did a good job, but even then, it would have only led to them being on the minor fringes of the Aristocracy. It would have taken several generations for the family to even be consider acceptable enough to enter court, and work their way up, let alone being able to marry into the Royal Family. Also her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - there were already many more legitimate (including a brother and nephew) claims before any would be child's of Marian would have been even considered, unless they were planning of murdering everyone of them, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on. This could have also led to a long drawn out war with other families, and countries (Some French Duke's would have had just a good a claim.) that they may not have won. If Mortiana was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?

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** Mortiana's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Sheriff's were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that he had to be recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even if they did that, then it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. The film also never explains why she thought that getting the Sheriff into that position would have even led to them becoming part of Royalty in the first place. Yes, the Sheriff may have been honoured by the King if he did a good job, but even then, it would have only led to them being on the minor fringes of the Aristocracy. It would have taken several generations for the family to even be consider acceptable enough to enter court, and work their way up, let alone being able to marry into the Royal Family. Also her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - there were already many more legitimate (including a brother and nephew) claims before any would be child's of Marian would have been even considered, unless they were planning of murdering everyone of them, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on. This could have also led to a long drawn out war with other families, and countries (Some French Duke's would have had just a good a claim.) that they may not have won. If Mortiana was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?
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** Mortiana's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Sheriff's were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that he had to be recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even if they did that, then it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. Also her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - there were already many more legitimate (including a brother and nephew) claims before any would be child's of Marian would have been even considered, unless they were planning of murdering everyone of them, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on. This could have also led to a long drawn out war with other families, and countries (Some French Duke's would have had just a good a claim.) that they may not have won. If Mortiana was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?

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** Mortiana's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Sheriff's were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that he had to be recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even if they did that, then it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. The film also never explains why she thought that getting the Sheriff into that position would have even led to them becoming part of Royalty in the first place. Yes, the Sheriff may have been honoured by the King if he did a good job, but even then, it would have only led to them being on the minor fringes of the Aristocracy. It would have taken several generations for the family to even be consider acceptable enough to enter court, and work their way up, let alone being able to marry into the Royal Family. Also her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - there were already many more legitimate (including a brother and nephew) claims before any would be child's of Marian would have been even considered, unless they were planning of murdering everyone of them, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on. This could have also led to a long drawn out war with other families, and countries (Some French Duke's would have had just a good a claim.) that they may not have won. If Mortiana was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?
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** Mortiana's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Sheriff's were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even then there it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. Also her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - there were already many more legitimate (including a brother and nephew) claims before any would be child's of Marian would have been considered, unless they were planning of murdering everyone of them, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on. This could have also led to a long drawn out war with other families, and countries (Some French Duke's would have had just a good a claim.) that they may not have won. If Mortiana was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?

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** Mortiana's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Sheriff's were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that he had to be recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even if they did that, then there it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. Also her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - there were already many more legitimate (including a brother and nephew) claims before any would be child's of Marian would have been even considered, unless they were planning of murdering everyone of them, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on. This could have also led to a long drawn out war with other families, and countries (Some French Duke's would have had just a good a claim.) that they may not have won. If Mortiana was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?
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** Mortiana's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Sheriff's were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even then there it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. Also her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - there were already many more legitimate (including a brother and nephew) claims before any would be child's of Marian would have been considered. If Mortiana was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family, then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relativeof the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?

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** Mortiana's plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Sheriff's were appointed. The movie suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse, but even then there it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes. Also her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - there were already many more legitimate (including a brother and nephew) claims before any would be child's of Marian would have been considered. considered, unless they were planning of murdering everyone of them, at which point you would think someone would notice something suspicious was going on. This could have also led to a long drawn out war with other families, and countries (Some French Duke's would have had just a good a claim.) that they may not have won. If Mortiana was that desperate to get her bloodline on the throne, then why didn’t she just [[spoiler:just swap her baby with a baby that had connections to the actual Royal family, family]], then use that claim to take the crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relativeof relative of the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?
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** Mortiana's original plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Civil Service even works. The movie suggested that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that his name had to be on the list to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes, but if she was that desperate to get her [[spoiler:bloodline]] onto the throne of England, then why didn’t she just swap him with a baby with connections to the actual Royal family, and scheme to take the crown that way, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative, who was nowhere near the line of succession?

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** Mortiana's original plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Civil Service even works. Sheriff's were appointed. The movie suggested suggests that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that his name had to be on the list recommended to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse.abuse, but even then there it was not guaranteed that he would get the role from the King. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes, but if she scenes. Also her and the Sheriff's plan to try and seize the Crown of England is not well thought out - there were already many more legitimate (including a brother and nephew) claims before any would be child's of Marian would have been considered. If Mortiana was that desperate to get her [[spoiler:bloodline]] onto bloodline on the throne of England, throne, then why didn’t she just swap him her baby with a baby with that had connections to the actual Royal family, and scheme then use that claim to take the crown that way, crown, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative, relativeof the King, who was nowhere near the line of succession?
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** Mortiana's original plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Civil Service even works. The movie suggested that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that his name had to be on the list to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes.

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** Mortiana's original plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Civil Service even works. The movie suggested that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates, meaning that his name had to be on the list to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes.scenes, but if she was that desperate to get her [[spoiler:bloodline]] onto the throne of England, then why didn’t she just swap him with a baby with connections to the actual Royal family, and scheme to take the crown that way, instead of trying to get him to marry a distant relative, who was nowhere near the line of succession?
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** Mortiana's original plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Civil Service even works. The movie suggested that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes.

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** Mortiana's original plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Civil Service even works. The movie suggested that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates.candidates, meaning that his name had to be on the list to begin with, though admittedly, this could be open to corruption and abuse. So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes.
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** Mortiana's original plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Civil Service even works. The movie suggested that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates. You also had to pay the crown a yearly allowance to keep the position, so Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes.

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** Mortiana's original plan on how she [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Civil Service even works. The movie suggested that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates. You also had to pay the crown a yearly allowance to keep the position, so So Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes.
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** Why were they even speaking with the same accent in the first place ([[NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent apart from the obvious explanation]])? Your accent is set by listening to your parent’s speech, how the people around you talk, and the area you grew up in, though it is possible to lose an accent or for it to change over time, that would only be if you move to a different geographic area, and know what that other accent sounds like, so you can pick it up. So, if you think about it, Will knows who Robin is presumably from what his Mother has told him, and from stories he has heard about him, however Robin has no idea who Will is until they meet for the first time by the river, and even then he doesn’t know who he ''really'' is until near the end of the movie. This suggests that they didn’t grow up on the same estate or even the same town. The rest of Merry Men, who are presumably all from the areas local to Sherwood Forest, don’t speak with same accent either (They do, however, speak with the full gamut of English regional accents, due the British actors themselves speaking with their own natural voices, but that’s probably a for different discussion…), so how on earth did Will end up with the same accent as Robin if they didn’t grow up together, and never knew each other, and Will only had very limited contact, if any at all, with their shared father, who also didn’t speak with the same accent, and had no contact with anyone else who spoke like that?

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** Why were they even speaking with the same accent in the first place ([[NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent apart from the obvious explanation]])? Your accent is set by listening to your parent’s speech, how the people around you talk, and the area you grew up in, though it is possible to lose an accent or for it to change over time, that would only be if you move to a different geographic area, and know what that other accent sounds like, so you can pick it up. So, if you think about it, Will knows who Robin is presumably from what his Mother has told him, and from stories he has heard about him, however Robin has no idea who Will is until they meet for the first time by the river, and even then he doesn’t know who he ''really'' is until near the end of the movie. This suggests that they didn’t grow up on the same estate or even the same town. The rest of Merry Men, who are presumably all from the areas local to Sherwood Forest, don’t speak with same accent either (They do, however, speak with the full gamut of English regional accents, due the British actors themselves speaking with their own natural voices, but that’s probably a for different discussion…), so how on earth did Will end up with the same accent as Robin if they didn’t grow up together, and never knew each other, and Will only had very limited contact, if any at all, with their shared father, who also didn’t speak with the same accent, and had no contact with anyone else who spoke like that?that (Since there is no suggestion that his mother had the same accent, and Robin's accent would have been set way before she was on the scene anyway)?
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** Mortiana's original plan on how she [[spoiler:planned to get her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Civil Service even works. The movie suggested that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a list of names that was given to him by an Tribunal from a list of suitable candidates. You also had to pay the crown a yearly allowance to keep the position, so Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes.

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** Mortiana's original plan on how she [[spoiler:planned to get [[spoiler:got her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Civil Service even works. The movie suggested that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a list shortlist of names that was given to him by an Tribunal Tribunal, who had chosen them from a much longer list of suitable candidates. You also had to pay the crown a yearly allowance to keep the position, so Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes.
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*** This is also FridgeBrilliance as well. Had the Sheriff simply raped Marian without being married in a Christian ceremony first, the resulting child would simply be a bastard, and therefore would not be eligible to ascend to the throne. The pair's plan all along was for the Sheriff to marry Marian, father a son, use her royal blood as part of a coup to take the throne, (possibly) kill her off, and rule as regent in his son's name.

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*** This is also FridgeBrilliance as well. Had the Sheriff simply raped Marian without being married in a Christian ceremony first, the resulting child would simply be a bastard, and therefore would not be eligible to ascend to the throne. The pair's plan all along was for the Sheriff to marry Marian, father a son, use her royal blood as part of a coup to take the throne, (possibly) kill her off, and rule as regent in his son's name.name.
** Mortiana's original plan on how she [[spoiler:planned to get her baby to become the Sheriff of Nottingham in the first place]] also wanders into FridgeLogic if you know anything about how the Medieval Civil Service even works. The movie suggested that Nottingham got his position because he inherited it via his family, but becoming a Sheriff in England has never been an inherited title - you had to be appointed by the King from a list of names that was given to him by an Tribunal from a list of suitable candidates. You also had to pay the crown a yearly allowance to keep the position, so Mortiana could had gone through all that will no chance of her plan actually succeeding in the first place. Maybe she thought that the [[spoiler: baby swap into a family with a good name]] was the only way it could happen, with her manipulating things behind the scenes.

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