History Fridge / Rent

11th Jun '17 9:21:19 PM LupineMoon
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*** Also the concept of renting or borrowing time as most of the characters' lives will be cut short by AIDS.
30th May '17 8:05:04 PM Luigifan
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* FridgeBrilliance: This troper only just figured out a pun in the title song. The line is "it reaches way down deep and tears you inside out til you're torn apart! RENT!" I thought they were just shouting out the name of the song/show, but they're also defining the term "rent"--as in, torn apart (like in "rent asunder"). Considering the way the cast falls apart, it's an apt term.

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* FridgeBrilliance: This troper only just figured out a pun in the title song. The line is "it reaches way down deep and tears you inside out til you're torn apart! RENT!" I thought they were just shouting out the name of the song/show, but they're also defining the term "rent"--as "rent" -- as in, torn apart (like in "rent asunder"). Considering the way the cast falls apart, it's an apt term.



* The first time I listened to "Your Eyes" I found it touching, but terribly predictable and full of clichés in the lyrical sense. Especially if one considers that it took Roger no less than a year to write it. Then it hit me, the song was written in character. Maybe Roger is just not the songwriter Larson was. He does refer to himself as "the pretty boy frontman" of his rock band in "One Song Glory". Maybe he wasn't a songwriter to begin with, hence why he had such a difficulty finding inspiration when he picked up the guitar.

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* The first time I listened to "Your Eyes" Eyes", I found it touching, but terribly predictable and full of clichés in the lyrical sense. Especially if one considers that it took Roger no less than a year to write it. Then it hit me, the song was written in character. Maybe Roger is just not the songwriter Larson was. He does refer to himself as "the pretty boy frontman" of his rock band in "One Song Glory". Maybe he wasn't a songwriter to begin with, hence why he had such a difficulty finding inspiration when he picked up the guitar.



** But you can take it a step into happiness, too. If he keeps getting inspiration, maybe he will become a better songwriter. Mimi got him out of the house, she got him to feel happy (just look in the 2008 proshot cast of how he acts during "Happy New Year" when he's singing to Mimi)... she got him to write a song. It's not great, but it isn't horrible to the ear—and it's a start.

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** But you can take it a step into happiness, too. If he keeps getting inspiration, maybe he will become a better songwriter. Mimi got him out of the house, she got him to feel happy (just look in the 2008 proshot cast of how he acts during "Happy New Year" when he's singing to Mimi)... she got him to write a song. It's not great, but it isn't horrible to the ear—and ear — and it's a start. start.
*** Back into horror -- it's a start, yes... for someone who has 20 years to live if he's ''lucky''?!? "It's a start" may not be good enough.



* If [[spoiler:Angel died on October 31,]] and "Seasons of Love B" is an interlude set around April (an earlier version of the script specifies that the events of the following song, "Without You," take place in April), [[spoiler:Angel only made it about 308,000 (and not 525,000) "Seasons of Love" into the new year.]]

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* If [[spoiler:Angel died on October 31,]] 31]], and "Seasons of Love B" is an interlude set around April (an earlier version of the script specifies that the events of the following song, "Without You," take place in April), [[spoiler:Angel only made it about 308,000 (and not 525,000) "Seasons of Love" into the new year.]]year]].



* Mark seems like an UngratefulBastard for quitting his tabloid job, but considering he has the footage to make a groundbreaking (it's only 1990, after all) docudrama on people living with AIDS then his film could potentially be a major success, meaning he'd need all his spare time to do as much research as possible before cutting it together and finding a buyer.
* In the original New York Theatre Workshop version of Rent, it is heavily implied that everything in "[[spoiler:Without You]]" takes place in the month of April, by Maureen in Voice Mail #3 (the song right before it), where she says, "April is [[spoiler: the cruelest month]].
* When Collins says that he was expelled from MIT for his theory of actual reality, he paints it as they're just being close-minded and acting like douchebags. But then you hear from Angel in La Vie Boheme just how he expressed that theory: [[spoiler: blowing up school equipment that probably costed thousands of dollars to create.]] No wonder he was fired! (Not that he had bad ideas, of course, but unless you wanna give a big "fuck you" to whoever you're working for, you miiiight not wanna do that.)
* Probably not intentional, but when Mimi, the self proclaimed "feline of Avenue B", sings "take me out tonight", the emphasis is such that "me out" sounds like "me-ow".

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* Mark seems like an UngratefulBastard for quitting his tabloid job, but considering he has the footage to make a groundbreaking (it's only 1990, after all) docudrama on people living with AIDS AIDS, then his film could potentially be a major success, meaning he'd need all his spare time to do as much research as possible before cutting it together and finding a buyer.
* In the original New York Theatre Workshop version of Rent, it is heavily implied that everything in "[[spoiler:Without You]]" takes place in the month of April, by Maureen in Voice Mail #3 (the song right before it), where she says, "April is [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the cruelest month]].month]]".
* When Collins says that he was expelled from MIT for his theory of actual reality, he paints it as they're just being close-minded closed-minded and acting like douchebags. But then you hear from Angel in La "La Vie Boheme Boheme" just how he expressed that theory: [[spoiler: blowing [[spoiler:blowing up school equipment that probably costed thousands of dollars to create.]] create]]. No wonder he was fired! (Not that he had bad ideas, of course, but unless you wanna give a big "fuck you" to whoever you're working for, you miiiight not wanna do that.)
* Probably not intentional, but when Mimi, the self proclaimed self-proclaimed "feline of Avenue B", sings "take me out tonight", the emphasis is such that "me out" sounds like "me-ow".



* FridgeLogic: Why didn't Roger just stick to One Song Glory? How did [[spoiler: Roger get enough gas money to get to Santa Fe and back, if he had to sell his guitar to afford the car?]] Why are they having an orgy during Contact?... the list goes on and on.

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* FridgeLogic: Why didn't Roger just stick to One Song Glory? How did [[spoiler: Roger [[spoiler:Roger get enough gas money to get to Santa Fe and back, if he had to sell his guitar to afford the car?]] Why are they having an orgy during Contact?... the list goes on and on.



* FridgeHorror: There's almost no way Allison (Benny's wife) doesn't have HIV or AIDS by the end of the play. Unless she never has sex with Benny from Christmas onward (the point when Benny and Mimi reconnect), the virus is in her system. Considering Benny's lifestyle, I wouldn't be surprised if she was infected before they got back together. Despite being the driving force behind Benny's actions, she's an innocent victim; even her dog, annoying as it might have been, gets killed.

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* FridgeHorror: There's almost no way Allison (Benny's wife) doesn't have HIV or AIDS by the end of the play. Unless she never has sex with Benny from Christmas onward (the point when Benny and Mimi reconnect), the virus is in her system. Considering Benny's lifestyle, I wouldn't be surprised if she was infected before they got back together. Despite being the driving force behind Benny's actions, she's an innocent victim; even her dog, annoying as it might have been, gets killed.



** Or, maybe Benny and Mimi had no sex at all. The movie at least is somewhat up to interpretation on that part, that he simply took care of an old friend who had a shit ton of problems. Tbh, that sounds a lot more like Benny.

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** Or, maybe Benny and Mimi had no sex at all. The movie movie, at least least, is somewhat up to interpretation on that part, that he simply took care of an old friend who had a shit ton shit-ton of problems. Tbh, that sounds a lot more like Benny.



* In "Contact" Angel's solo includes a short reprise of "Today 4 U", but after one line he switches it from "Today for you, tomorrow for me" to "Today me, tomorrow you." [[spoiler: This could not only be indicative of Angel's death, but a subtle dark nod to Collins' ultimate fate as well.]]
** Or even an acknowledgement of the fact [[WeAllDieSomeday everyone dies some day so you should live life while you can]], which is one of the major themes of the play. There's a [[AltumVidetur Latin phrase, "hodie mihi, cras tibi"]] with essentially this meaning, which is sometimes used on gravestones and so on as a kind of memento mori type thing. I honestly think that's probably meant as a major secondary meaning of the whole "Today 4 U" musical number itself, although it's not meant as the surface meaning.

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* In "Contact" "Contact", Angel's solo includes a short reprise of "Today 4 U", but after one line line, he switches it from "Today for you, tomorrow for me" to "Today me, tomorrow you." [[spoiler: This [[spoiler:This could not only be indicative of Angel's death, but a subtle dark nod to Collins' ultimate fate as well.]]
** Or even an acknowledgement of the fact [[WeAllDieSomeday that everyone dies some day day, so you should live life while you can]], which is one of the major themes of the play. There's a [[AltumVidetur Latin phrase, "hodie mihi, cras tibi"]] tibi"]], with essentially this meaning, which is sometimes used on gravestones and so on as a kind of memento mori type thing. I honestly think that's probably meant as a major secondary meaning of the whole "Today 4 U" musical number itself, although it's not meant as the surface meaning.



* FridgeComedy: When you realise that for Angel to make her dramatic entrance in "Today 4 U" she had to be standing awkwardly outside the loft while Collins talked to his friends and found a good moment to introduce her.

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* FridgeComedy: When you realise that for Angel to make her dramatic entrance in "Today 4 U" U", she had to be standing awkwardly outside the loft while Collins talked to his friends and found a good moment to introduce her.
30th Sep '16 12:42:55 PM Lullabee
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* Maureen has a running "moon" motif: she sings "Over The Moon", she "more than mooned" over other boys, and she moons everyone in "La Vie Boheme"... I don't know what this means, but it's a thing.



* Maureen has a running "moon" motif: she sings "Over The Moon", she "more than mooned" over other boys, and she moons everyone in "La Vie Boheme"... I don't know what this means, but it's a thing.
30th Sep '16 12:16:12 PM Lullabee
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* Maureen has a running "moon" motif: she sings "Over The Moon", she "more than mooned" over other boys, and she moons everyone in "La Vie Boheme"... I don't know what this means, but it's a thing.
7th Aug '16 3:05:48 AM dnwassel
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* If [[spoiler:Angel died on October 31,]] and "Seasons of Love B" is an interlude set around April (an earlier version of the script specifies that the events of the following song, "Without You," take place in April), [[spoiler:Angel only made it about 308,000 (and not 525,000) "Seasons of Love" into the new year.]]
7th Aug '16 2:02:58 AM dnwassel
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* FridgeComedy: When you realise that for Angel to make her dramatic entrance in "Today 4 U" she had to be standing awkwardly outside the loft while Collins talked to his friends and found a good moment to introduce her.

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* FridgeComedy: When you realise that for Angel to make her dramatic entrance in "Today 4 U" she had to be standing awkwardly outside the loft while Collins talked to his friends and found a good moment to introduce her.her.
** This irritates me every time, especially given how long it takes Collins to get around to introducing her. WMG: I like to imagine she ran into Mimi on her way up.
7th Aug '16 1:59:41 AM dnwassel
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*** He's talking to Roger: He's the one of the two of them who will survive.


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*** No ambiguity in the play. As Benny asks during "Happy New Year," "Well does your boyfriend (ie. Roger) know who your last boyfriend was?"
** In PIV-sex, HIV transmission is less common when the infected partner is the woman. With condoms, it's very possible Mimi did not pass on the disease; remember that the other infected heterosexual pairings referenced in the play (Mimi and Roger, Roger and April) are all IV drug users, and it's heavily implied that heroin, not sex, is the reason for their infection.


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*** "Today 4 U" is a literal translation of the Spanish phrase "hoy por tí, mañana por yo," a justification for acts of kindness towards strangers basically along the lines of "paying it forward." This seems to be Angel's approach to life in general (quote Collins, "All you do is give.")
** Given the sexual setting, it possibly just refers to the fact that Angel wants to get off.
4th Aug '16 2:24:35 AM sbemail19
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* Probably not intentional, but when Mimi, the self proclaimed "feline of Avenue B", sings "take me out tonight", the emphasis is such that it "me out" sounds like "me-ow".

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* Probably not intentional, but when Mimi, the self proclaimed "feline of Avenue B", sings "take me out tonight", the emphasis is such that it "me out" sounds like "me-ow".
4th Aug '16 2:23:27 AM sbemail19
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*Probably not intentional, but when Mimi, the self proclaimed "feline of Avenue B", sings "take me out tonight", the emphasis is such that it "me out" sounds like "me-ow".
27th Jun '15 1:00:26 PM JolieFille
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* When Collins says that he was expelled from MIT for his theory of actual reality, he paints it as they're just being close-minded and douchbaggy. But then you hear from Angel in La Vie Boheme just how he expressed that theory: [[spoiler: blowing up school equipment that probably costed thousands of dollars to create.]] No wonder he was fired! (Not that he had bad ideas, of course, but unless you wanna give a big "fuck you" to whoever you're working for, you miiiight not wanna do that.)

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* When Collins says that he was expelled from MIT for his theory of actual reality, he paints it as they're just being close-minded and douchbaggy.acting like douchebags. But then you hear from Angel in La Vie Boheme just how he expressed that theory: [[spoiler: blowing up school equipment that probably costed thousands of dollars to create.]] No wonder he was fired! (Not that he had bad ideas, of course, but unless you wanna give a big "fuck you" to whoever you're working for, you miiiight not wanna do that.)
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