History Fridge / Pinocchio

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** Remember near the beginning when Pinocchio touched a burning candle? What if Geppetto hadn't been there to put out the flame on his finger?
*** [[http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Pinocchio/Chapter_6 The book answers that one]]. The finger would have burned off, and Geppetto would have had to make a new one. Such a finger (or foot in the book) would probably be paralyzed and numb for a while as Pinocchio's circulation rebuilds the tissue in the cell walls.
** I don't know about you, but I always got this weird and creepy sense that the Coachman was an allusion to pedophilia and child trafficking. That's what always crept me out about this whole operation. I mean, ''Pleasure Island???'' *Shudder*
*** I never got that impression. His evil stemmed not from lust, but from greed so fierce that he was willing to destroy the lives of small children for money. But then, considering his actions, he probably WOULD have sold children as (human) sex slaves if he'd found the market for it.

** Well it would make sense, but it's a pretty far-fetched tale. "Officer. There is an island offshore where small boys are turned into donkeys and sold as slaves!" But then, when you consider that most people don't find a six foot tall talking foxes and blue fairies and talking wooden boys to be out of the ordinary, that story could possibly be feasible.

** Well it would make sense, but it's a pretty far-fetched tale. "Officer. There is an island offshore where small boys are turned into donkeys and sold as slaves!" Of course, when you consider that most people didn't find a TALKING PUPPET to be out of the ordinary, that story could be feasible.

* Again, with the boys who were turned into donkeys, it is quite clear that the ones who could not talk were sold to various places (its written on the boxes) such as salt mines. However, what happened to the ones who could still talk? Its probable that they were sold to glue factories so they would be killed in order to stop them talking...
** They probably pulled the coach. Why waste a good donkey?
** When Foulfellow asks, "What about the law?", Coachman assures him that there is no danger of that because [[NightmareFace THEY NEVER COME BACK AS BOYS]]. He also carefully prevents ones that still talk from getting away. Does this mean that Pinocchio, the first to come back as a boy, thanks to his conscience, had the potential to send all the king's horses after The Coachman?

* Pinocchio's father is ''really'' old (old enough to be his grandfather, if it's worth guessing but [[VagueAge we're still unsure]]) and is most likely to die as soon as he reaches puberty. It's worth noting that this is a famous fan theory, having {{gen fic}}s depict Pinocchio as a teenager, coping or witnessing his father's death.

**** This would make good FridgeBrilliance; after all, it wouldn't count as a good ending for nothing if it weren't for this line.

* ''{{Disney/Pinocchio}}'': Looking at the coach taking the children to Pleasure Island, it appears to be pulled by donkeys. Thus, little boys are kidnapped and changed into donkeys, losing everything they ever loved in life and on top of that, some are forced to pull the coach of the man who changed them in the first place and carry other children so that they can share the same monstrous fate as themselves. (In [[Literature/TheAdventuresOfPinocchio the book]], this is definitely stated.)

** On top of that, there's the fact that [[spoiler: no one rescues the boys after they're ''robbed of their humanity and sold into slavery''. Nobody even bothers to mourn for them, but we're supposed to clap and cheer because TheHero gets out OK. And the Coachman is never stopped, so he presumably goes on doing it to more boys. Honestly, this troper finds it pretty damn {{Egregious}} that the ending is even considered happy]].
** FridgeLogic: It would seem that the film intended that [[spoiler:the Coachman, while a CompleteMonster by today's standards, look more like a 'force of nature' against the bad boys. Turning into a donkey is considered to be a just desserts for being 'bad boys'.]] Perhaps they meant it that way so [[spoiler:the Coachman turns into a KarmaHoudini. Still, if that's his job, Disney, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING!?!?]]

** And [[CompleteMonster the Coachman]] is a KarmaHoudini. For all we know, he could still be turning kids into donkeys and selling them off to the circus, salt mines, etc.

*** Flat-out stated in the book, where we eventually see Pinocchio's companion from Pleasure Island [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel worked to death on a farm]].

* ''{{Disney/Pinocchio}}'': Looking at the coach taking the children to Pleasure Island, it appears to be pulled by donkeys. Thus, little boys are kidnapped and changed into donkeys, losing everything they ever loved in life and on top of that, some are forced to pull the coach of the man who changed them in the first place and carry other children so that they can share the same monstrous fate as themselves. (In [[TheAdventuresOfPinocchio the book]], this is definitely stated.)

* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler:Looking at the coach taking the children to Pleasure Island, it appears to be pulled by donkeys. Thus, little boys are kidnapped and changed into donkeys, losing everything they ever loved in life and on top of that, some are forced to pull the coach of the man who changed them in the first place and carry other children so that they can share the same monstrous fate as themselves. (In the book, this is definitely stated.)]]

**** Alternatively, [[spoiler:Pinocchio was supposed to represent that "Got a chance to learn from mistakes and find redemption", while the rest were considered those too late to repent (and again, once God says you're not welcome in Heaven and your only place is Hell, beg all you like, but God won't let you repent, saying you got your chance in your whole life, but squandered them, it's just too late). It just means Disney just chose to save Pinocchio... while ''damning the rest with no chance of redemption''. Again, I repeat... WHAT WERE YOU THINKING!?!?]]

*** Probably, but it's still DisproportionateRetribution. It would teach a much better lesson if [[spoiler: the boys actually got a chance to learn from their mistakes and find redemption. After all, that's all part of growing up--they're not evil people, they're just kids who don't know any better. And anyway, think of what it would do to the children's parents if they knew what the Coachman was doing. [[{{Tearjerker}} One boy even begs the Coachman to let him see his mother again]]]].

*** Probably, but it's still DisproportionateRetribution. It would teach a much better lesson if [[spoiler: the boys actually got a chance to learn from their mistakes and find redemption. After, that's all part of growing up--they're not evil people, they're just kids who don't know any better. And anyway, think of what it would do to the children's parents if they knew what the Coachman was doing. [[{{Tearjerker}} One boy even begs the Coachman to let him see his mother again]]]].

** FridgeLogic: It would seem that the film intended that [[spoiler:the Coachman, while a CompleteMonster by today's standards, look more like a 'force of nature' against the bad boys. Turning into a donkey is considered to be a just desserts for being 'bad boys'.]] Perhaps they meant it that way so [[spoiler:the Coachman turns into a KarmaHoudini. Still, if that's his job, Disney, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING!?!?]]

** On top of that, there's the fact that [[spoiler: no one rescues the boys after they're ''robbed of their humanity and sold into slavery''. Nobody even bothers to mourn for them, but we're supposed to clap and cheer because TheHero gets out OK. And the Coachman is never stopped, so he presumably goes on doing it to more boys. Honestly, this troper finds it pretty damn {{Egregious}} that the ending is even considered happy]].