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* In the Playstation 2's file system, the game's save data is represented by Issun, who angrily jumps around if you hover over the deletion choice. Of course he'd be angry over this; you're threatening to destroy his work since he wrote the story.
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* There's a perfectly canonical reason for a NewGamePlus to exist; Issun offers to tell you Amaterasu's story again, so you as his audience now know what she did and how powerful she is, (her upgraded stats and retaining most of her inventory) and completing the Stray Bead collection to get the [[InfinityPlusOneSword String of Beads]] can be interpreted as you truly believing Amaterasu as unstoppable goddess.
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* The past version of Shinsu Field notably has many areas completely missing while leading straight to the Moon Cave, often fading into the white skybox. Almost as if the empty state of the field was an unfinished painting!
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* During the [[PressXToNotDie quick-time events]] where you help Susano perform his finishers with Power Slash, kanji appear on-screen as indication of a successful slash. The first few times, the kanji that appear all carry negative meanings such as "anger" (憤), "hatred" (憎), "filth" (汚) and "spasm" (癪). After he undergoes CharacterDevelopment and embraces his bloodline, the kanji that appear when you help him slay Orochi carries positive connotations such as "destiny", (命), "living" (活), "flow" (流) and "exist" (存).
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* Befitting Ninetails' GodGuise, it even has its own envoy in the form of Blight, who serves as an EvilCounterpart to Issun by his appearance of a microscopic swordsman surrounded by a green aura.
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* Praise is used to level up your health and ink capacity, at the end of the game you receive praise from everyone in the game, and get leveled UpToEleven.

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* A bit of a meteorological StealthPun: On very cold days, the sun at some angles (especially while rising or setting) will appear to have a halo around it and extra illusory copies of itself off to either side. This phenomenon is called a parhelion, also known as a sun dog. The main character is a (rather tame) wolf, but what else might you call Amaterasu and her son Chibiterasu? Sun dogs!
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* How on earth does Oki manage to intervene in the battle with Yami if a certain Brush Technique is used? With Nagi and Queen Himiko it makes sense because they're dead (Himiko having been murdered and Nagi likely having died naturally during the 100 years between imprisoning Orochi and Susano releasing Orochi, but for Oki it doesn't make as much sense, given that he's still alive by the time Amaterasu confronts Yami.

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* How on earth does Oki manage to intervene in the battle with Yami if a certain Brush Technique is used? With Nagi and Queen Himiko it makes sense because they're dead (Himiko having been murdered and Nagi likely having died naturally during the 100 years between imprisoning Orochi and Susano releasing Orochi, but for Oki it doesn't make as much sense, given that he's still alive by the time Amaterasu confronts Yami.Yami.
** As a possibility, it's a combination of innate spirituality (his people are very in-tune with the spiritual world), and the unique tie he and his sword share with Amaterasu/Shiranui (Shiranui sacrificed himself to save Oki, so there may be a divine tether)
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* The Wawku Shrine is an icy clock tower with mechanisms too fast to navigate without using the Veil of Mist or Blizzard techniques to slow down or halt the obstacles. This essentially means that in this iced-over clock tower, the mechanics revolve mainly around [[StealthPun freezing time.]]

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* The final boss [[spoiler: Yami]], who doesn't seem to look remotely evil, and his forms seem to just be an addition to his power, until one realizes his forms are the evils humanity has performed, [[spoiler: Destruction, Burning, Gambling, Energy being used for evil purposes, and the hand of which does this evil]], some people either interpret [[spoiler: Yami's True form, a fish]], as being an ironic evil, or things start out innocently enough, but then [[{{StartOfDarkness}} everything goes bad]]. So [[spoiler: Yami's]] not so much a sign that ScienceIsBad, but those who would use it for evil purposes. --@/{{Etheru}}
** The line about the fish-thing (seal fetus?) inside [[spoiler: Yami]] can be taken further: the fish represents a person (or possibly nature in general) being surrounded by the negative aspects of humanity and thus being twisted into something evil. It's basically innocence being corrupted by the evils of humanity. Why else would it be a small thing almost always surrounded by [[spoiler: Yami's]] different forms? And Amaterasu having to attack the fish-thing to lower [[spoiler: Yami's]] HP represents destroying the corruption.
** Alternatively, [[spoiler: Yami]] can be seen as what happens when science goes too far. Without going into very detailed biology, at some point in the human embryo's development, the fetus looks roughly like a fish. So [[spoiler: Yami]] could very well have been created with good intentions, however eventually it became corrupted. A bit of a stretch, but that's how this troper sees it.
** [[spoiler:Yami's]] multiple forms also make a kind of sense. When you regain the powers needed to rip open each shape and deplete its health bar, [[spoiler:Yami]] moves to a version that isn't susceptible to any of them. By the end, you've got all of them anyway, so it just goes to its most powerful form.
* When you explore the sunken ship with Rao, you come across seals that require you to guide Rao's power to dispel. It seems like a gameplay and story segregation function allowing you complete control of story progression. [[spoiler: The brilliance comes in when you realize Rao doesn't have any holy power, since she's a major demon. You are using the real Rao's tools as a conduit for Amaterasu's own holy powers. It's not just that the fake Rao doesn't fight enemies or cursed zones herself, it's that she can't -- or at least, not without giving herself away.]]
* Remember the prayer slips Rao used when you were on the ship? Tobi looks the same as those, [[spoiler: doesn't that tell you a lot about "Rao".]]
* Ever questioned why Rao has one eye covered whenever you see her? [[spoiler: That's because Ninetails' true form is missing an eye too...]]
** It was also a puzzle how Rao could breathe underwater. She can even talk when she meets Okami and Issun in the Dragon Palace garden. That's quite a feat even with holy powers. [[spoiler: Then again, a being like Ninetails would probably be able to bypass the need for oxygen somehow. Either an oversight, as it's not explained how Issun and Amaterasu can breathe either, or a clue that Rao isn't really Rao.]]
* Rao seeming to not understand Issun's various euphemisms for her... endowments can make sense given that she's likely been raised formally away from people who would want to comment on her figure like that. [[spoiler:Until you find out the truth that is, since Ninetails' true form is bestial, having breasts is something she's probably not used to so she forgets they're there, and even if she has disguised as a human before like Kitsune in myth are known to do, she probably hadn't had to have become one as stacked as Rao was before.]]
* The theme that plays during [[spoiler: the second part of the final boss fight with Yami]] is called The Sun Rises. Considering that Amaterasu is the sun god and, and that Japan is called the land of the Rising Sun, the song is basically saying that Ammy is taking back her world from [[spoiler: Yami]].
* Praise is used to level up your health and ink capacity, at the end of the game [[spoiler: you receive praise from everyone in the game, and get leveled UpToEleven]]
* Regarding [[spoiler: Yami's]] first battle theme -- on the OST, it usually lasts about seven minutes. The maximum length of time a solar eclipse can last? About seven minutes!

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* The final boss [[spoiler: Yami]], Yami, who doesn't seem to look remotely evil, and his forms seem to just be an addition to his power, until one realizes his forms are the evils humanity has performed, [[spoiler: Destruction, Burning, Gambling, Energy being used for evil purposes, and the hand of which does this evil]], evil, some people either interpret [[spoiler: Yami's True form, a fish]], fish, as being an ironic evil, or things start out innocently enough, but then [[{{StartOfDarkness}} everything goes bad]]. So [[spoiler: Yami's]] Yami's not so much a sign that ScienceIsBad, but those who would use it for evil purposes. --@/{{Etheru}}
** The line about the fish-thing (seal fetus?) inside [[spoiler: Yami]] Yami can be taken further: the fish represents a person (or possibly nature in general) being surrounded by the negative aspects of humanity and thus being twisted into something evil. It's basically innocence being corrupted by the evils of humanity. Why else would it be a small thing almost always surrounded by [[spoiler: Yami's]] Yami's different forms? And Amaterasu having to attack the fish-thing to lower [[spoiler: Yami's]] Yami's HP represents destroying the corruption.
** Alternatively, [[spoiler: Yami]] Yami can be seen as what happens when science goes too far. Without going into very detailed biology, at some point in the human embryo's development, the fetus looks roughly like a fish. So [[spoiler: Yami]] Yami could very well have been created with good intentions, however eventually it became corrupted. A bit of a stretch, but that's how this troper sees it.
** [[spoiler:Yami's]] Yami's multiple forms also make a kind of sense. When you regain the powers needed to rip open each shape and deplete its health bar, [[spoiler:Yami]] Yami moves to a version that isn't susceptible to any of them. By the end, you've got all of them anyway, so it just goes to its most powerful form.
* When you explore the sunken ship with Rao, you come across seals that require you to guide Rao's power to dispel. It seems like a gameplay and story segregation function allowing you complete control of story progression. [[spoiler: The brilliance comes in when you realize Rao doesn't have any holy power, since she's a major demon. You are using the real Rao's tools as a conduit for Amaterasu's own holy powers. It's not just that the fake Rao doesn't fight enemies or cursed zones herself, it's that she can't -- or at least, not without giving herself away.]]
away.
* Remember the prayer slips Rao used when you were on the ship? Tobi looks the same as those, [[spoiler: doesn't that tell you a lot about "Rao".]]
"Rao".
* Ever questioned why Rao has one eye covered whenever you see her? [[spoiler: That's because Ninetails' true form is missing an eye too...]]
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** It was also a puzzle how Rao could breathe underwater. She can even talk when she meets Okami and Issun in the Dragon Palace garden. That's quite a feat even with holy powers. [[spoiler: Then again, a being like Ninetails would probably be able to bypass the need for oxygen somehow. Either an oversight, as it's not explained how Issun and Amaterasu can breathe either, or a clue that Rao isn't really Rao.]]
Rao.
* Rao seeming to not understand Issun's various euphemisms for her... endowments can make sense given that she's likely been raised formally away from people who would want to comment on her figure like that. [[spoiler:Until Until you find out the truth that is, since Ninetails' true form is bestial, having breasts is something she's probably not used to so she forgets they're there, and even if she has disguised as a human before like Kitsune in myth are known to do, she probably hadn't had to have become one as stacked as Rao was before.]]
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* The theme that plays during [[spoiler: the second part of the final boss fight with Yami]] Yami is called The Sun Rises. Considering that Amaterasu is the sun god and, and that Japan is called the land of the Rising Sun, the song is basically saying that Ammy is taking back her world from [[spoiler: Yami]].
Yami.
* Praise is used to level up your health and ink capacity, at the end of the game [[spoiler: you receive praise from everyone in the game, and get leveled UpToEleven]]
UpToEleven.
* Regarding [[spoiler: Yami's]] Yami's first battle theme -- on the OST, it usually lasts about seven minutes. The maximum length of time a solar eclipse can last? About seven minutes!



* Okamiden: While traveling through the Goryeo, Chibi encounters a sailor who is managing a fish tank which contains a shark and, apparently, some crabs. Now who are the bosses of [[spoiler: the Sunken Ship? A pair of crab demons who fuse into a shark demon.]]
* Okamiden: Near the beginning of Okamiden, Susano says that he knows Chibi. At first, you think he's mistaking him for Ammy, [[spoiler: but then Chibi and Kurow find him outside of the Moon Cave when he was going in to slay Orochi in the first game.]]

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* Okamiden: While traveling through the Goryeo, Chibi encounters a sailor who is managing a fish tank which contains a shark and, apparently, some crabs. Now who are the bosses of [[spoiler: the Sunken Ship? A pair of crab demons who fuse into a shark demon.]]
demon.
* Okamiden: Near the beginning of Okamiden, Susano says that he knows Chibi. At first, you think he's mistaking him for Ammy, [[spoiler: but then Chibi and Kurow find him outside of the Moon Cave when he was going in to slay Orochi in the first game.]]



* In Okamiden, right before you head out to find the Knowing Jewel (in an underwater temple), Kurow ditches you, with the justification that he can't swim. However on a second playthrough this troper realized, [[spoiler: Earlier in the adventure, Kurow asks a fortuneteller about his purpose, which she is unable to divine and though he is disappointed, he quickly lets it go. However, at the end of the game he reveals that he was afraid of finding out, so his reaction to the Knowing Jewel could have been him making excuses to avoid confronting the truth.]]
* Okamiden: It makes sense that Kuni's special field ability is that he can fight off smaller enemies with his sword when you realize that out of all the party members, Kuni has the most experience in fighting due to his sword training. [[spoiler:That is, until we find out about Kurow's double-edged hidden sword, but even then Kurow only shows to use his flute as a music attack during fights prior.]]

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* In Okamiden, right before you head out to find the Knowing Jewel (in an underwater temple), Kurow ditches you, with the justification that he can't swim. However on a second playthrough this troper realized, [[spoiler: realized: Earlier in the adventure, Kurow asks a fortuneteller about his purpose, which she is unable to divine and though he is disappointed, he quickly lets it go. However, at the end of the game he reveals that he was afraid of finding out, so his reaction to the Knowing Jewel could have been him making excuses to avoid confronting the truth.]]
truth.
* Okamiden: It makes sense that Kuni's special field ability is that he can fight off smaller enemies with his sword when you realize that out of all the party members, Kuni has the most experience in fighting due to his sword training. [[spoiler:That That is, until we find out about Kurow's double-edged hidden sword, but even then Kurow only shows to use his flute as a music attack during fights prior.]]
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* There's [[spoiler: Yami]]. Yes, he looks harmless, even with his armor, but consider the fact that he has weapons that people didn't have access to at the time, put yourself back into that age, think about what happens when Yami wins and pretty much destroys the world...

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* There's [[spoiler: Yami]].Yami. Yes, he looks harmless, even with his armor, but consider the fact that he has weapons that people didn't have access to at the time, put yourself back into that age, think about what happens when Yami wins and pretty much destroys the world...



* How on earth does Oki manage to [[spoiler:intervene in the battle with Yami]] if a certain Brush Technique is used? With [[spoiler:Nagi and Queen Himiko]] it makes sense because [[spoiler:they're dead (Himiko having been murdered and Nagi likely having died naturally during the 100 years between imprisoning Orochi and Susano releasing Orochi]], but for Oki it doesn't make as much sense, given that [[spoiler:he's still alive by the time Amaterasu confronts Yami]].

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* How on earth does Oki manage to [[spoiler:intervene intervene in the battle with Yami]] Yami if a certain Brush Technique is used? With [[spoiler:Nagi Nagi and Queen Himiko]] Himiko it makes sense because [[spoiler:they're they're dead (Himiko having been murdered and Nagi likely having died naturally during the 100 years between imprisoning Orochi and Susano releasing Orochi]], Orochi, but for Oki it doesn't make as much sense, given that [[spoiler:he's he's still alive by the time Amaterasu confronts Yami]].Yami.
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** It's made even creepier when you consider what happened to the ship in Okamiden where most of the sailors died. That giant seaweed creature was probably an amalgamation of their souls being stuck there after death.

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** It's made even creepier when you consider what happened to the ship in Okamiden where most of the sailors died. That giant seaweed creature was probably an amalgamation of their souls being stuck there after death.death.

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* How on earth does Oki manage to [[spoiler:intervene in the battle with Yami]] if a certain Brush Technique is used? With [[spoiler:Nagi and Queen Himiko]] it makes sense because [[spoiler:they're dead (Himiko having been murdered and Nagi likely having died naturally during the 100 years between imprisoning Orochi and Susano releasing Orochi]], but for Oki it doesn't make as much sense, given that [[spoiler:he's still alive by the time Amaterasu confronts Yami]].
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* Rao seeming to not understand Issun's various euphamisms for her... endowements can make sense given that she's likely been raised formally away from people who would want to comment on her figure like that. [[spoiler:Until you find out the truth that is, since Ninetails' true form is bestial, having breasts is something she's probably not used to so she forgets they're there, and even if she has disguised as a human before like Kitsune in myth are known to do, she probably hadn't had to have become one as stacked as Rao was before.]]

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* Rao seeming to not understand Issun's various euphamisms euphemisms for her... endowements endowments can make sense given that she's likely been raised formally away from people who would want to comment on her figure like that. [[spoiler:Until you find out the truth that is, since Ninetails' true form is bestial, having breasts is something she's probably not used to so she forgets they're there, and even if she has disguised as a human before like Kitsune in myth are known to do, she probably hadn't had to have become one as stacked as Rao was before.]]



* Praise is used to level up your health and ink capacity, at the end of the game [[spoiler: you receive praise from everyone in the game, and get levelled UptoEleven]]

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* Praise is used to level up your health and ink capacity, at the end of the game [[spoiler: you receive praise from everyone in the game, and get levelled UptoEleven]]leveled UpToEleven]]
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* When you explore the sunken ship with Rao, you come across seals that require you to guide Rao's power to dispel. It seems like a gameplay and story segregation function allowing you complete control of story progression. [[spoiler: The brilliance comes in when you realize Rao doesn't have any holy power, since she's a major demon. You are using the real Rao's tools as a conduit for Amaterasu's own holy powers. It's not just that the fake Rao doesn't fight enemies or cursed zones herself, it's that she can't- or at least, not without giving herself away.]]

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* When you explore the sunken ship with Rao, you come across seals that require you to guide Rao's power to dispel. It seems like a gameplay and story segregation function allowing you complete control of story progression. [[spoiler: The brilliance comes in when you realize Rao doesn't have any holy power, since she's a major demon. You are using the real Rao's tools as a conduit for Amaterasu's own holy powers. It's not just that the fake Rao doesn't fight enemies or cursed zones herself, it's that she can't- can't -- or at least, not without giving herself away.]]



* Regarding [[spoiler: Yami's]] first battle theme- on the OST, it usually lasts about seven minutes. The maximum length of time a solar eclipse can last? About seven minutes!

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* Regarding [[spoiler: Yami's]] first battle theme- theme -- on the OST, it usually lasts about seven minutes. The maximum length of time a solar eclipse can last? About seven minutes!
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* Rao seeming to not understand Issun's various euphamisms for her... endowements can make sense given that she's likely been raised formally away from people who would want to comment on her figure like that. [[spoiler:Until you find out the truth that is, since Ninetails' true form is bestial, having breasts is something she's probably not used to so she forgets they're there, and even if she has disguised as a human before like Kitsune in myth are known to do, she probably hadn't had to have become one as stacked as Rao was before.]]
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* Ever questioned why Rao has one eye covered whenever you see her? [[spoiler: That's because Ninetail's true form is missing an eye too...]]

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* Ever questioned why Rao has one eye covered whenever you see her? [[spoiler: That's because Ninetail's Ninetails' true form is missing an eye too...]]
** It was also a puzzle how Rao could breathe underwater. She can even talk when she meets Okami and Issun in the Dragon Palace garden. That's quite a feat even with holy powers. [[spoiler: Then again, a being like Ninetails would probably be able to bypass the need for oxygen somehow. Either an oversight, as it's not explained how Issun and Amaterasu can breathe either, or a clue that Rao isn't really Rao.]]
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* ''{{Okami}}'' has the final boss [[spoiler: Yami]], who doesn't seem to look remotely evil, and his forms seem to just be an addition to his power, until one realizes his forms are the evils humanity has performed, [[spoiler: Destruction, Burning, Gambling, Energy being used for evil purposes, and the hand of which does this evil]], some people either interpret [[spoiler: Yami's True form, a fish]], as being an ironic evil, or things start out innocently enough, but then [[{{StartOfDarkness}} everything goes bad]]. So [[spoiler: Yami's]] not so much a sign that ScienceIsBad, but those who would use it for evil purposes. --@/{{Etheru}}

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* ''{{Okami}}'' has the The final boss [[spoiler: Yami]], who doesn't seem to look remotely evil, and his forms seem to just be an addition to his power, until one realizes his forms are the evils humanity has performed, [[spoiler: Destruction, Burning, Gambling, Energy being used for evil purposes, and the hand of which does this evil]], some people either interpret [[spoiler: Yami's True form, a fish]], as being an ironic evil, or things start out innocently enough, but then [[{{StartOfDarkness}} everything goes bad]]. So [[spoiler: Yami's]] not so much a sign that ScienceIsBad, but those who would use it for evil purposes. --@/{{Etheru}}






* For ''{{Okami}}'', there's [[spoiler: Yami]]. Yes, he looks harmless, even with his armor, but consider the fact that he has weapons that people didn't have access to at the time, put yourself back into that age, think about what happens when Yami wins and pretty much destroys the world...

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* For ''{{Okami}}'', there's There's [[spoiler: Yami]]. Yes, he looks harmless, even with his armor, but consider the fact that he has weapons that people didn't have access to at the time, put yourself back into that age, think about what happens when Yami wins and pretty much destroys the world...
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** [[spoiler:Yami's]] multiple forms also make a kind of sense. When you regain the powers needed to rip open each shape and deplete its health bar, [[spoiler:Yami]] moves to a version that isn't susceptible to any of them. By the end, you've got all of them anyway, so it just goes to its most powerful form.
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** The line about the fish-thing (seal fetus?) inside Yami can be taken further: the fish represents a person (or possibly nature in general) being surrounded by the negative aspects of humanity and thus being twisted into something evil. It's basically innocence being corrupted by the evils of humanity. Why else would it be a small thing almost always surrounded by Yami's different forms? And Amaterasu having to attack the fish-thing to lower Yami's HP represents destroying the corruption.

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** The line about the fish-thing (seal fetus?) inside Yami [[spoiler: Yami]] can be taken further: the fish represents a person (or possibly nature in general) being surrounded by the negative aspects of humanity and thus being twisted into something evil. It's basically innocence being corrupted by the evils of humanity. Why else would it be a small thing almost always surrounded by Yami's [[spoiler: Yami's]] different forms? And Amaterasu having to attack the fish-thing to lower Yami's [[spoiler: Yami's]] HP represents destroying the corruption.

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I was dumb back then. lol


*** It gets worse when you consider that [[spoiler: Yami ''may have caused WorldWarII'']].
*** Um...how?



* The giant seaweed monster from the sunken treasure ship gives you a ton of praise for killing it. The praise is coming out of the monster its self and not from the surrounding areas like it usually does when you take out a demon gate or other large monsters... It wanted to die.

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* The giant seaweed monster from the sunken treasure ship gives you a ton of praise for killing it. The praise is coming out of the monster its self itself and not from the surrounding areas like it usually does when you take out a demon gate or other large monsters... monsters; It wanted to die.
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** Also Yami's forms seem to represent the ''seven'' deadly sins of man.
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* Okamiden: It makes sense that Kuni's special field ability is that he can fight off smaller enemies with his sword when you realize that out of all the party members, Kuni has the most experience in fighting due to his sword training.

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* Okamiden: It makes sense that Kuni's special field ability is that he can fight off smaller enemies with his sword when you realize that out of all the party members, Kuni has the most experience in fighting due to his sword training. [[spoiler:That is, until we find out about Kurow's double-edged hidden sword, but even then Kurow only shows to use his flute as a music attack during fights prior.]]
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* Okamiden: It makes sense that Kuni's special field ability is that he can fight off smaller enemies with his sword when you realize that out of all the party members, Kuni has the most experience in fighting due to his sword training.

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