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* Oogway is revealed to be over 500, which probably has to do with 1) Kung Fu extending a person's life through diet and exercise, and 2) him being a tortoise, who naturally have lives in the 100+.
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* Po used the Wuxi Finger Hold on Tai Lung. That means Tai Lung was sent to the Spirit Realm and possibly even became one of Kai's victims.

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* Po used the Wuxi Finger Hold on Tai Lung. That means Tai Lung was sent to the Spirit Realm and possibly even became one of Kai's victims. Or, since he is nowhere to be seen, he's either trapped somewhere in the Spirit Realm or is in Di Yu working off his karma. Or, less horrifically and more awesomely, he managed to somehow be the only master Kai couldn't defeat (until Po).
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*** Which is also why he didn't choose Tai-Lung.....

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*** Which is also why he didn't choose Tai-Lung.....Tai Lung.....



* Kai and everything associated with him is green, but chi, whenever shown by anyone ELSE is golden. This is even shown when he's stealing it from others. Kai converts others chi to match his own...so when Po FORCED it into him in the end, bypassing that completely, he couldn't control it. It could also be that it destabilized him and caused him to lose control of what he'd already stolen.

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* Kai and everything associated with him is green, but chi, whenever shown by anyone ELSE is golden. (Keep in mind by the color theory of the films that gold stands for heroism.) This is even shown when he's stealing it from others. Kai converts others chi to match his own...so when Po FORCED it into him in the end, bypassing that completely, he couldn't control it. It could also be that it destabilized him and caused him to lose control of what he'd already stolen.
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*** Which is also why he didn't choose Tai-Lung.....
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* Po's issues with being a Kung Fu teacher. Wait a minute, isn't he seen as a good teacher during the credits scenes at the end of the [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda first movie]] and ''Secrets of the Furious Five''? Well, that's Kung Fu philosophy and history, not the practical side of Kung Fu. Po has encyclopedic knowledge of its history and philosophy, but has only just learned practical Kung Fu relatively recently. It's going to take a bit for him to learn how to teach practical Kung Fu.

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* Po's issues with being a Kung Fu teacher. Wait a minute, isn't he seen as a good teacher during the credits scenes at the end of the [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda first movie]] and ''Secrets of the Furious Five''? Well, that's Kung Fu philosophy and history, not the practical side of Kung Fu. Po has encyclopedic knowledge of its history and philosophy, but has only just learned practical Kung Fu relatively recently. It's going to take a bit for him to learn how to teach practical Kung Fu.it.
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* Why does Kai know about the Wuxi Finger Hold and how does he know that it doesn't work on Spirits? Given that Oogway explicitly banished him to the spirit realm, it's likely that's the reason he's a spirit now.

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* Why does Kai know about the Wuxi Finger Hold and how does he know that it doesn't work on Spirits? spirits? Given that Oogway explicitly banished him to the spirit realm, Spirit Realm, it's likely that's the reason he's a spirit now.now. This would explain why he immediately assumes Oogway taught Po the technique.



* Po used the Wuxi Finger Hold on Tai Lung. That means Tai Lung was sent to the spiritual world and likely died or became one of Kai's victim.

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* Po used the Wuxi Finger Hold on Tai Lung. That means Tai Lung was sent to the spiritual world Spirit Realm and likely died or possibly even became one of Kai's victim.victims.
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* The upbeat, happy ending to the film is somewhat hampered by the fact that the Jade Palace is still a destroyed wreck and [[RealityEnsues beating Kai didn't just magically fix it]]. While the student barracks are okay and the masters still have a place to live, the loss of such a prominent location still hits hard.

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* The upbeat, happy ending to the film is somewhat hampered by the fact that the Jade Palace is still a destroyed wreck and [[RealityEnsues beating Kai didn't just magically fix it]]. While the student barracks are okay and the masters still have a place to live, the loss of such a prominent location still hits hard.hard.
* Po used the Wuxi Finger Hold on Tai Lung. That means Tai Lung was sent to the spiritual world and likely died or became one of Kai's victim.
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* The Chi Kai stole tainted his eyes green throughout the film, and they become most prominent while he's using it's power. In otherwords, Kai has literal Green Eyes of Envy.
* Why does Kai know about the Wuxi Finger Hold and how does he know that it doesn't work on Spirits? Given that Oogway explicitly banished him to the spirit realm, it's likely that's the reason he's a spirit now.
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* As with previous villains, Kai has issues that are a parallel to Po's. Kai also struggles with finding his own identity. Everything he does is centered around Oogway, and he's known only through his connection to him. It's no wonder he gets so annoyed that his former legacy has been completely forgotten, as now he has no real sense of self.

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* As with previous villains, Kai has issues that are a parallel to Po's. Kai also struggles with finding his own identity. Everything he does is centered around Oogway, and he's he is known only through his connection to him. It's no wonder he gets so annoyed that his former legacy has been completely forgotten, as now he has no real sense of self. This factors into his powers as well. He doesn't have his own identity, so he takes the identities of other masters and uses them instead.
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** Pandas are what help Oogway become the great kung fu master he is known as today, so it no wonder he saw in the young panda Po the potential to be the Dragon Warrior, including how through him the Kung Fu world and the secret panda race will unite.
*** Also the reason he knew that he wasn't the one who can defeat Kai, cause Kai, in a corrupted way, wasn't fighting alone (he had the chi of the other captured masters) and as a strong as Oogaway is, can't fight Kai and combined stolen chi power of the other masters (which was about the same as fight a very powerful army in one), but knew Po could since as a Panda, not only will he have learned about using and mastering chi by this time, but will have done it to the point of become a true chi master and becoming a like Kai, he wasn't fighting alone and had the chi power of others willingly given to him and therefore prove to be a far better match for Kai.

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** Pandas are what help helped Oogway become the great kung fu master he is known as today, so it is no wonder he saw in the young panda Po the potential to be the Dragon Warrior, including how how, through him him, the Kung Fu world and the secret panda race will unite.
*** Also Also, the reason he knew that he wasn't the one who can defeat Kai, cause Kai. Because Kai, in a corrupted way, wasn't fighting alone (he had the chi of the other captured masters) and as a strong as Oogaway Oogway is, he can't fight Kai and combined stolen all of that chi power of the other masters (which was about the same as fight a very powerful army in one), but at once. But he knew that Po could could, since as a Panda, not only will would he have learned about using be able to use and mastering chi by this time, but will have done it to the point of become a true chi master and becoming a like Kai, chi, but he wasn't would also not be fighting alone and alone, as he had the chi power of others willingly given to him and him, therefore prove proving to be a far better match for Kai.




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* As with previous villains, Kai has issues that are a parallel to Po's. Kai also struggles with finding his own identity. Everything he does is centered around Oogway, and he's known only through his connection to him. It's no wonder he gets so annoyed that his former legacy has been completely forgotten, as now he has no real sense of self.
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* Master Croc's return appearance implies that Kai not only attacked Gongmen City off-screen, but also captured Master Ox. Indeed, one of the SOS messages that Shifu reads reports that Master Ox has gone missing.
* The upbeat, happy ending to the film is somewhat hampered by the fact that the Jade Palace is still a destroyed wreck and [[RealityEnsues beating Kai didn't just magically fix it]]. While the student barracks are okay and the masters still have a place to live, the loss of such a prominent location still hits hard.

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* Master Croc's return appearance implies that Kai not only attacked Gongmen City off-screen, offscreen, but also captured Master Ox. Indeed, one of the SOS messages that Shifu reads reports that Master Ox has gone missing.
* The upbeat, happy ending to the film is somewhat hampered by the fact that the Jade Palace is still a destroyed wreck and [[RealityEnsues beating Kai didn't just magically fix it]]. While the student barracks are okay and the masters still have a place to live, the loss of such a prominent location still hits hard.

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* The upbeat, happy ending to the film is somewhat hampered by the fact that the Jade Palace is still a destroyed wreck and [[RealityEnsues beating Kai didn't just magically fix it]]. All of the masters except Po are now effectively homeless.
** I don't think Kai destroyed the barracks, just the palace itself. The Five still have a place to sleep at night.

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* The upbeat, happy ending to the film is somewhat hampered by the fact that the Jade Palace is still a destroyed wreck and [[RealityEnsues beating Kai didn't just magically fix it]]. All of While the student barracks are okay and the masters except Po are now effectively homeless.
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** That, and Kai himself [[UnskilledButStrong isn't very good with technique]]. It's not so much of a problem when ''[[ImplacableMan he's]]'' fighting, but when directing the weaker jombies, their lack of strength means his [[AttackAttackAttack normal tactics]] just don't work as well.
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*** Also the reason he knew that he wasn't the one who can defeat Kai, cause as

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*** Also the reason he knew that he wasn't the one who can defeat Kai, cause as Kai, in a corrupted way, wasn't fighting alone (he had the chi of the other captured masters) and as a strong as Oogaway is, can't fight Kai and combined stolen chi power of the other masters (which was about the same as fight a very powerful army in one), but knew Po could since as a Panda, not only will he have learned about using and mastering chi by this time, but will have done it to the point of become a true chi master and becoming a like Kai, he wasn't fighting alone and had the chi power of others willingly given to him and therefore prove to be a far better match for Kai.
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*Oogway and his connection to Pandas, Po in particular, as shown throughout this movie.
**Pandas are what help Oogway become the great kung fu master he is known as today, so it no wonder he saw in the young panda Po the potential to be the Dragon Warrior, including how through him the Kung Fu world and the secret panda race will unite.
*** Also the reason he knew that he wasn't the one who can defeat Kai, cause as
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** Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Kai destroyed the barracks, just the palace itself. The Five still have a place to sleep at night.

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** Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Kai destroyed the barracks, just the palace itself. The Five still have a place to sleep at night.
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* The upbeat, happy ending to the film is somewhat hampered by the fact that the Jade Palace is still a destroyed wreck and [[RealityEnsues beating Kai didn't just magically fix it]]. All of the masters except Po are now effectively homeless.

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* The upbeat, happy ending to the film is somewhat hampered by the fact that the Jade Palace is still a destroyed wreck and [[RealityEnsues beating Kai didn't just magically fix it]]. All of the masters except Po are now effectively homeless.homeless.
**Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Kai destroyed the barracks, just the palace itself. The Five still have a place to sleep at night.

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* Unlike the first two movies, Po doesn't share his epiphany with the BigBad in an attempt as a LastSecondChance. While part of this is likely due to the fact Kai is too far gone and has had five hundred years to change and hasn't, Po didn't ''need'' to do that: Oogway already did it at the beginning to the story when he told him that the more he takes, the less he has. Kai stole chi from everyone else...but it's likely he never gained the realization of self that came with full mastery, and thus the more power he took from others, the less of his own he actually had. This is likely why Po's force feeding him chi in the end obliterated him: he never had the realization needed to control chi he didn't enslave to his will and lost control over it.
* It may seem a little confusing that the tribe of dumpy, lazy pandas were the ones that first mastered the art of manipulating chi, but it actually makes sense. All of the very greatest kung-fu masters in this series (such as Po, Oogway, and post-CharacterDevelopment Shifu) have an interesting thing in common: they know how to relax themselves and not take everything seriously 100% of the time. You would expect them to, because no one could ever achieve spiritual balance unless they had some level of relaxation to go along with hard work and discipline. Now, who are the undisputed masters of calming themselves on demand? Pandas.

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* Unlike the first two movies, Po doesn't share his epiphany with the BigBad in an attempt as at a LastSecondChance. While part of this is likely due to the fact Kai is too far gone and has had five hundred years to change and hasn't, Po didn't ''need'' to do that: Oogway already did it at the beginning to the story when he told him that the more he takes, the less he has. Kai stole chi from everyone else...but it's likely he never gained the realization of self that came with full mastery, and thus the more power he took from others, the less of his own he actually had. This is likely why Po's force feeding him chi in the end obliterated him: he never had the realization needed to control chi he didn't enslave to his will and lost control over it.
* It may seem a little confusing that the tribe of dumpy, lazy pandas were the ones that first mastered the art of manipulating chi, but it actually makes sense. All of the very greatest kung-fu masters in this series (such as Po, Oogway, and post-CharacterDevelopment Shifu) have an interesting thing in common: they know how to relax themselves and not take everything seriously 100% of the time. You would expect them to, because no one could ever achieve spiritual balance unless they had some level of relaxation to go along with hard work and discipline. Now, who are the undisputed masters of calming themselves on demand? Pandas.Pandas.
* How is it that the jombies, elite kung fu masters turned into immortal jade warriors, were so easily beaten back by the panda villagers? Because while they are very skilled and durable, they're also mindless drones who can only follow Kai's orders. They have no way to learn or adapt to the unique fighting styles the pandas use against them.
* Even when things start going south for him, Kai ''never'' tries to make a jombie of Master Oogway. Either he refuses to let go of Oogway's chi, even temporarily, or he knows that his mission to destroy Oogway's legacy would be undermined if he had to use Oogway himself to do it.

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* Master Croc's return appearance implies that Kai not only attacked Gongmen City off-screen, but also captured Master Ox. Indeed, one of the SOS messages that Shifu reads reports that Master Ox has gone missing.
* The upbeat, happy ending to the film is somewhat hampered by the fact that the Jade Palace is still a destroyed wreck and [[RealityEnsues beating Kai didn't just magically fix it]]. All of the masters except Po are now effectively homeless.
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** Even so, Po not only recognizes Kai from the scroll, but also his ''nicknames'', which he had never heard before. Meaning that Po went out of his way to study up and gain that kind of knowledge on his new foe.

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** Even so, Po not only recognizes Kai from the scroll, but also his ''nicknames'', which he had never heard before. Meaning that Po went out of his way to study up and gain that kind of knowledge on his new foe. foe, probably when he's seen looking over the scroll before the battle.
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** Even so, Po not only recognizes Kai from the scroll, but also his ''nicknames'', which he had never heard before. Meaning that Po went out of his way to study up and gain that kind of knowledge on his new foe.
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* Unlike the first two movies, Po doesn't share his epiphany with the BigBad in an attempt as a LastSecondChance. While part of this is likely due to the fact Kai is too far gone and has had five hundred years to change and hasn't, Po didn't ''need'' to do that: Oogway already did it at the beginning to the story when he told him that the more he takes, the less he has. Kai stole chi from everyone else...but it's likely he never gained the realization of self that came with full mastery, and thus the more power he took from others, the less of his own he actually had. This is likely why Po's force feeding him chi in the end obliterated him: he never had the realization needed to control chi he didn't enslave to his will and lost control over it.

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* Unlike the first two movies, Po doesn't share his epiphany with the BigBad in an attempt as a LastSecondChance. While part of this is likely due to the fact Kai is too far gone and has had five hundred years to change and hasn't, Po didn't ''need'' to do that: Oogway already did it at the beginning to the story when he told him that the more he takes, the less he has. Kai stole chi from everyone else...but it's likely he never gained the realization of self that came with full mastery, and thus the more power he took from others, the less of his own he actually had. This is likely why Po's force feeding him chi in the end obliterated him: he never had the realization needed to control chi he didn't enslave to his will and lost control over it.it.
* It may seem a little confusing that the tribe of dumpy, lazy pandas were the ones that first mastered the art of manipulating chi, but it actually makes sense. All of the very greatest kung-fu masters in this series (such as Po, Oogway, and post-CharacterDevelopment Shifu) have an interesting thing in common: they know how to relax themselves and not take everything seriously 100% of the time. You would expect them to, because no one could ever achieve spiritual balance unless they had some level of relaxation to go along with hard work and discipline. Now, who are the undisputed masters of calming themselves on demand? Pandas.
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* Unlike the first two movies, Po doesn't share his epiphany with the BigBad in an attempt as a LastSecondChance. While part of this is likely due to the fact Kai is too far gone and has had five hundred years to change and hasn't, Po didn't ''need'' to do that: Oogway already did it at the beginning to the story when he told him that the more he takes, the less he has. Kai stole chi from everyone else...but it's likely he never gained the realization of self that came with full mastery. This is likely why Po's force feeding him chi in the end obliterated him: he never had the realization needed to control chi he didn't enslave to his will.

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* Unlike the first two movies, Po doesn't share his epiphany with the BigBad in an attempt as a LastSecondChance. While part of this is likely due to the fact Kai is too far gone and has had five hundred years to change and hasn't, Po didn't ''need'' to do that: Oogway already did it at the beginning to the story when he told him that the more he takes, the less he has. Kai stole chi from everyone else...but it's likely he never gained the realization of self that came with full mastery. mastery, and thus the more power he took from others, the less of his own he actually had. This is likely why Po's force feeding him chi in the end obliterated him: he never had the realization needed to control chi he didn't enslave to his will.will and lost control over it.
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* When it is time for Po to teach the Panda village kung-fu, he learns the exact same lesson that Shifu did in the first film. Shifu couldn't make the traditional methods of teaching work for Po, so he had to adjust to his student's requirements. Po's lessons for the other pandas involved working with the strengths they already had. A good teacher works with their student to learn and adapts to them in order to bring out their full potential.

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* When it is time for Po to teach the Panda village kung-fu, he learns the exact same lesson that Shifu did in the first film. Shifu couldn't make the traditional methods of teaching work for Po, so he had to adjust to his student's requirements. Po's lessons for the other pandas involved working with the strengths they already had. A good teacher works with their student to learn and adapts to them in order to bring out their full potential.potential.
* Unlike the first two movies, Po doesn't share his epiphany with the BigBad in an attempt as a LastSecondChance. While part of this is likely due to the fact Kai is too far gone and has had five hundred years to change and hasn't, Po didn't ''need'' to do that: Oogway already did it at the beginning to the story when he told him that the more he takes, the less he has. Kai stole chi from everyone else...but it's likely he never gained the realization of self that came with full mastery. This is likely why Po's force feeding him chi in the end obliterated him: he never had the realization needed to control chi he didn't enslave to his will.
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* Kai and everything associated with him is green, but chi, whenever shown by anyone ELSE is golden. This is even shown when he's stealing it from others. Kai converts others chi to match his own...so when Po FORCED it into him in the end, bypassing that completely, he couldn't control it. It could also be that it destabilized him and caused him to lose control of what he'd already stolen.

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* Kai and everything associated with him is green, but chi, whenever shown by anyone ELSE is golden. This is even shown when he's stealing it from others. Kai converts others chi to match his own...so when Po FORCED it into him in the end, bypassing that completely, he couldn't control it. It could also be that it destabilized him and caused him to lose control of what he'd already stolen.stolen.
* When it is time for Po to teach the Panda village kung-fu, he learns the exact same lesson that Shifu did in the first film. Shifu couldn't make the traditional methods of teaching work for Po, so he had to adjust to his student's requirements. Po's lessons for the other pandas involved working with the strengths they already had. A good teacher works with their student to learn and adapts to them in order to bring out their full potential.
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** Not sure about this one. Po didn't recognize the name at first and even after Shifu finds some info on Kai, still doesn't act like he knows anything. The one time he identifies Kai is well after Shifu found the scroll explaining who Kai was.

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** Not sure about this one. Po didn't recognize the name at first and even after Shifu finds some info on Kai, still doesn't act like he knows anything. The one time he identifies Kai is well after Shifu found the scroll explaining who Kai was.was.
* The fact the chi of the Panda village, Tigress, and Po's fathers was enough to overwhelm and ultimately destroy Kai. Remember what Oogway told Kai at the beginning: the more you take the less you have. Kai stealing chi could ''never'' give him the full power of it because he was trying to TAKE IT, and while it DID boost his power, it could never make him as strong as if it were GIVEN to him. This even shows in his jombies: they're shown to be not nearly as strong as the person they were.
* Kai and everything associated with him is green, but chi, whenever shown by anyone ELSE is golden. This is even shown when he's stealing it from others. Kai converts others chi to match his own...so when Po FORCED it into him in the end, bypassing that completely, he couldn't control it. It could also be that it destabilized him and caused him to lose control of what he'd already stolen.
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* The fact that only Po knows any major info about Kai as opposed to most other people. Po has a fanboy level knowledge of past and present kung fu masters, so of course he'd be familiar with him.

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* The fact that only Po knows any major info about Kai as opposed to most other people. Po has a fanboy level knowledge of past and present kung fu masters, so of course he'd be familiar with him.him.
** Not sure about this one. Po didn't recognize the name at first and even after Shifu finds some info on Kai, still doesn't act like he knows anything. The one time he identifies Kai is well after Shifu found the scroll explaining who Kai was.
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* Po's issues with being a Kung Fu teacher. Wait a minute, isn't he seen as a good teacher during the credits scenes at the end of the [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda first movie]] and ''Secrets of the Furious Five''? Well, that's Kung Fu philosophy and history, not the practical side of Kung Fu. Po has encyclopedic knowledge of its history and philosophy, but has only just learned practical Kung Fu relatively recently. It's going to take a bit for him to learn how to teach practical Kung Fu.

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* Po's issues with being a Kung Fu teacher. Wait a minute, isn't he seen as a good teacher during the credits scenes at the end of the [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda first movie]] and ''Secrets of the Furious Five''? Well, that's Kung Fu philosophy and history, not the practical side of Kung Fu. Po has encyclopedic knowledge of its history and philosophy, but has only just learned practical Kung Fu relatively recently. It's going to take a bit for him to learn how to teach practical Kung Fu.Fu.
* The fact that only Po knows any major info about Kai as opposed to most other people. Po has a fanboy level knowledge of past and present kung fu masters, so of course he'd be familiar with him.
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* Po's issues with being a Kung Fu teacher. Wait a minute, isn't he seen as a good teacher during the credits scenes at the end of the [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda first movie]] and ''Secrets of the Furious Five''? Well, that's Kung Fu philosophy and history, not the practical side of Kung Fu. Po has encyclopedic knowledge of it's history and philosophy, but has only just learned practical Kung Fu relatively recently. It's going to take a bit for him to learn how to teach practical kung fu.

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* Po's issues with being a Kung Fu teacher. Wait a minute, isn't he seen as a good teacher during the credits scenes at the end of the [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda first movie]] and ''Secrets of the Furious Five''? Well, that's Kung Fu philosophy and history, not the practical side of Kung Fu. Po has encyclopedic knowledge of it's its history and philosophy, but has only just learned practical Kung Fu relatively recently. It's going to take a bit for him to learn how to teach practical kung fu.Kung Fu.
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* Po's issues with being a Kung Fu teacher. Wait a minute, isn't he seen as a good teacher during the credits scenes at the end of the [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda first movie]] and ''Secrets of the Furious Five''? Well, that's Kung Fu philosophy and history, not the practical side of Kung Fu. Po has great knowledge of it's history and philosophy, but has only just learned practical Kung Fu relatively recently. It's going to take a bit for him to learn how to teach practical kung fu.

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* Po's issues with being a Kung Fu teacher. Wait a minute, isn't he seen as a good teacher during the credits scenes at the end of the [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda first movie]] and ''Secrets of the Furious Five''? Well, that's Kung Fu philosophy and history, not the practical side of Kung Fu. Po has great encyclopedic knowledge of it's history and philosophy, but has only just learned practical Kung Fu relatively recently. It's going to take a bit for him to learn how to teach practical kung fu.
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* Po's issues with being a Kung Fu teacher. Wait a minute, isn't he seen as a good teacher during the credits scenes at the end of the [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda first movie]] and ''Secrets of the Furious Five''? Well, that's Kung Fu philosophy and history, not the practical side of Kung Fu. Po has great knowledge of it's history and philosophy, but has only just learned practical Kung Fu relatively recently. It's going to take a bit for him to learn how to teach practical kung fu.

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