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** [[spoiler: There are beings of darkness that don't necessarily have hearts though. TheHeartless themselves come to mind. What the Nobodies are made of, as in what they are composed of is Nothingness. Which has nothing to do with their hearts. Having a heart does not make them exist. ]]

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** [[spoiler: There are beings of darkness that don't necessarily have hearts though. TheHeartless themselves come to mind. Or the Unversed. Or Dream Eaters. What the Nobodies are made of, as in what they are composed of is Nothingness. Which has nothing to do with their hearts. Having a heart does not make them exist. ]]
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** [[spoiler: Hearts are very much the reason why someone is considered to be of the light or of the darkness; [[WordOfGod Nomura]] had stated that beings of Darkness (Not specifically Heartless) have the ability to remove hearts without the keyblade, which explains who took Aurora's heart in [[KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep Birth by Sleep]]; it was Maleficent who took away Aurora's heart, as her heart has the affinity for Darkness. Pretty much, the Heart is what governs their existence; therefore, without the heart, you cannot exist (A force called Nothingness which is the absence of Light and Dark), which is what the Nobodies presumed to be, as they didn't have hearts to be of the light or the dark. Then, it turns out they do have hearts, which means they do exist. The only reason why they fade back to darkness when they are defeated? They have their own hearts, but their body, soul and memories do not belong to them.]]

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** [[spoiler: Hearts are very much the reason why someone is considered to be of the light or of the darkness; [[WordOfGod Nomura]] had stated that beings of Darkness (Not specifically Heartless) have the ability to remove hearts without the keyblade, which explains who took Aurora's heart in [[KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep Birth by Sleep]]; it was Maleficent who took away Aurora's heart, as her heart has the affinity for Darkness. Pretty much, the Heart is what governs their existence; therefore, without the heart, you cannot exist (A force called Nothingness which is the absence of Light and Dark), which is what the Nobodies presumed to be, as they didn't have hearts to be of the light or the dark. Then, it turns out they do have hearts, which means they do exist. The only reason why they fade back to darkness when they are defeated? They have their own hearts, but their body, soul and memories do not belong to them.]]
** [[spoiler: There are beings of darkness that don't necessarily have hearts though. TheHeartless themselves come to mind. What the Nobodies are made of, as in what they are composed of is Nothingness. Which has nothing to do with their hearts. Having a heart does not make them exist.
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** [[spoilers: Hearts are very much the reason why someone is considered to be of the light or of the darkness; [[WordOfGod Nomura]] had stated that beings of Darkness (Not specifically Heartless) have the ability to remove hearts without the keyblade, which explains who took Aurora's heart in [[KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep Birth by Sleep]]; it was Maleficent who took away Aurora's heart, as her heart has the affinity for Darkness. Pretty much, the Heart is what governs their existence; therefore, without the heart, you cannot exist (A force called Nothingness which is the absence of Light and Dark), which is what the Nobodies presumed to be, as they didn't have hearts to be of the light or the dark. Then, it turns out they do have hearts, which means they do exist. The only reason why they fade back to darkness when they are defeated? They have their own hearts, but their body, soul and memories do not belong to them.]]

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** [[spoilers: [[spoiler: Hearts are very much the reason why someone is considered to be of the light or of the darkness; [[WordOfGod Nomura]] had stated that beings of Darkness (Not specifically Heartless) have the ability to remove hearts without the keyblade, which explains who took Aurora's heart in [[KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep Birth by Sleep]]; it was Maleficent who took away Aurora's heart, as her heart has the affinity for Darkness. Pretty much, the Heart is what governs their existence; therefore, without the heart, you cannot exist (A force called Nothingness which is the absence of Light and Dark), which is what the Nobodies presumed to be, as they didn't have hearts to be of the light or the dark. Then, it turns out they do have hearts, which means they do exist. The only reason why they fade back to darkness when they are defeated? They have their own hearts, but their body, soul and memories do not belong to them.]]
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** [[spoiler: Also keep in mind how obsessed Xemnas was with nothingness, and how Nobodies, or "nothings" were as eternal as beings of the light or the darkness. Xemnas knew about the hearts thing, and had just absorbed KingdomHearts at the time. Getting a heart has no impact on the other aspects of a Nobody's nonexistence. If they had just tried not being dicks, their destruction wouldn't have been necessary. And they rejoined with their original hearts anyway, so it worked out in the end.]]

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** [[spoiler: Also keep in mind how obsessed Xemnas was with nothingness, and how Nobodies, or "nothings" were as eternal as beings of the light or the darkness. Xemnas knew about the hearts thing, and had just absorbed KingdomHearts at the time. Getting a heart has no impact on the other aspects of a Nobody's nonexistence. If they had just tried not being dicks, their destruction wouldn't have been necessary. And they rejoined with their original hearts anyway, so it worked out in the end.]]
** [[spoilers: Hearts are very much the reason why someone is considered to be of the light or of the darkness; [[WordOfGod Nomura]] had stated that beings of Darkness (Not specifically Heartless) have the ability to remove hearts without the keyblade, which explains who took Aurora's heart in [[KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep Birth by Sleep]]; it was Maleficent who took away Aurora's heart, as her heart has the affinity for Darkness. Pretty much, the Heart is what governs their existence; therefore, without the heart, you cannot exist (A force called Nothingness which is the absence of Light and Dark), which is what the Nobodies presumed to be, as they didn't have hearts to be of the light or the dark. Then, it turns out they do have hearts, which means they do exist. The only reason why they fade back to darkness when they are defeated? They have their own hearts, but their body, soul and memories do not belong to them.
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*** Or Maybe [[TearJerker Joshua]] did know, But by the fact he can't interfere with other.

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*** Or Maybe [[TearJerker Joshua]] did know, But by the fact he can't interfere with other.the other Player in the RG.
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*** Or Maybe [[TearJerker Joshua]] did know, But by the fact he can't interfere with other.
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* A lot of things annoyed me from what I saw of the Disney world cutscenes in the game... the lack of people at the Festival of Fools, Phoebus and Esmeralda's hookup coming out of the clear blue (since any bonding scenes between them from the film were cut from the game), Sora ''leaving'' The Grid without checking to see if [[spoiler:Tron's alright (despite CLU's dialogue suggesting he's still alive.]] And then it hit me... it's AllJustADream! When do dreams ever make sense when you look back at them?
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** A more optimistic interpretation is that since most of the worlds destroyed by the Heartless were restored at the end of KHI, [[spoiler:and Shibuya isn't seen in the Realm of Sleep (where all the worlds that ''weren't'' perfectly restored went), the originals are safe and sound back on their own world.]] On the other hand, [[spoiler:it doesn't seem [[TearJerker Joshua]] [[FridgeHorror knows]]...]] but maybe [[spoiler:''he's'' just a dream recreation too.]] After all, Yen Sid did say that everything that Sora and Riku saw in those worlds were just dreams, including the people they met.
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** Or maybe is was because of that [[ThreeFiveEightDaysOverTwo Level]] ''[[MouthfulOfPi i]]'' [[HilariousInHindsight Flare]]?
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*** Speaking of Larxene, this could also explain her sadism. [[spoiler:As number 12, she was the most recent addition to the Organization before Roxas and Xion. Most likely, her heart isn't as developed as some of the others.]]
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** [[spoiler: Also keep in mind how obsessed Xemnas was with nothingness, and how Nobodies, or "nothings" were as eternal as beings of the light or the darkness. Xemnas knew about the hearts thing, and had just absorbed KingdomHearts at the time. Getting a heart has no impact on the other aspects of a Nobodie's nonexistence. If they had just tried not being dicks, their destruction wouldn't have been necessary.]]

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** [[spoiler: Also keep in mind how obsessed Xemnas was with nothingness, and how Nobodies, or "nothings" were as eternal as beings of the light or the darkness. Xemnas knew about the hearts thing, and had just absorbed KingdomHearts at the time. Getting a heart has no impact on the other aspects of a Nobodie's Nobody's nonexistence. If they had just tried not being dicks, their destruction wouldn't have been necessary. And they rejoined with their original hearts anyway, so it worked out in the end.]]
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** [[spoiler: Where did you hear that? Where was the "made of nothingness" thing ever linked to the "no hearts" thing? Changing the one condition and giving them hearts would not stop them from being made from nothingness. Again, every single Nobody, from the lowliest Dusk to Xemnas himself faded away into darkness when killed, which seems to make them rather different from "normal people" as near as I can tell. There is also the thing where Xemnas, whose power is ''Nothingness'' can turn the Organization members into Dusks.]]

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** [[spoiler: Where did you hear that? Where was the "made of nothingness" thing ever linked to the "no hearts" thing? Changing the one condition and giving them hearts would not stop them from being made from nothingness. Again, every single Nobody, from the lowliest Dusk to Xemnas himself faded away into darkness when killed, which seems to make them rather different from "normal people" as near as I can tell. There is also the thing where Xemnas, whose power is ''Nothingness'' can turn the Organization members into Dusks.]]
** [[spoiler: Also keep in mind how obsessed Xemnas was with nothingness, and how Nobodies, or "nothings" were as eternal as beings of the light or the darkness. Xemnas knew about the hearts thing, and had just absorbed KingdomHearts at the time. Getting a heart has no impact on the other aspects of a Nobodie's nonexistence. If they had just tried not being dicks, their destruction wouldn't have been necessary.
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** [[spoiler: Wrong. The reason why Nobodies were considered to be of Nothingness is because of the original assumption that they did not have hearts, which are natural vessels of Light and Darkness. The this game comes out and reveals that they grow new ones, essentially meaning that strong willed Nobodies are not so different from normal people as well.]]

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** [[spoiler: Wrong. The reason why Nobodies were considered to be of Nothingness is because of the original assumption that they did not have hearts, which are natural vessels of Light and Darkness. The Then this game comes out and reveals that they grow new ones, essentially meaning that strong willed Nobodies are not so different from normal people as well.]]
** [[spoiler: Where did you hear that? Where was the "made of nothingness" thing ever linked to the "no hearts" thing? Changing the one condition and giving them hearts would not stop them from being made from nothingness. Again, every single Nobody, from the lowliest Dusk to Xemnas himself faded away into darkness when killed, which seems to make them rather different from "normal people" as near as I can tell. There is also the thing where Xemnas, whose power is ''Nothingness'' can turn the Organization members into Dusks.
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** Actually, [[spoiler: considering all the Nobodies still faded into the darkness when killed, getting new hearts may not have made them whole at all. They still are beings made of Nothingness, rejected by the light and the darkness, and don't exist. They are kept going only by willpower. The only difference is, with hearts they are now capable of feeling emotions. And considering most of them were dicks, and seemed to be cruel and evil as much as anything, I'd say the fact that they were capable of feelings makes them less sympathatic than before. They should have known better, and experienced some twinges of guilt from their consciences.]]

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** Actually, [[spoiler: considering all the Nobodies still faded into the darkness when killed, getting new hearts may not have made them whole at all. They still are beings made of Nothingness, rejected by the light and the darkness, and don't exist. They are kept going only by willpower. The only difference is, with hearts they are now capable of feeling emotions. And considering most of them were dicks, and seemed to be cruel and evil as much as anything, I'd say the fact that they were capable of feelings makes them less sympathatic than before. They should have known better, and experienced some twinges of guilt from their consciences.]]
**[[spoiler: Wrong. The reason why Nobodies were considered to be of Nothingness is because of the original assumption that they did not have hearts, which are natural vessels of Light and Darkness. The this game comes out and reveals that they grow new ones, essentially meaning that strong willed Nobodies are not so different from normal people as well.
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** Meh. [[spoiler: Getting Hearts may not actually make Nobodies more "real" than previously. Nobodies don't really "exist" and are essentially made of Nothingness. Besides, killing them reunites them with their Hearts, and actually does them a favor.]]

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** Meh. [[spoiler: Getting Hearts may not actually make Nobodies more "real" than previously. Nobodies don't really "exist" and are essentially made of Nothingness. Besides, killing them reunites them with their Hearts, and actually does them a favor.]]
** Actually, [[spoiler: considering all the Nobodies still faded into the darkness when killed, getting new hearts may not have made them whole at all. They still are beings made of Nothingness, rejected by the light and the darkness, and don't exist. They are kept going only by willpower. The only difference is, with hearts they are now capable of feeling emotions. And considering most of them were dicks, and seemed to be cruel and evil as much as anything, I'd say the fact that they were capable of feelings makes them less sympathatic than before. They should have known better, and experienced some twinges of guilt from their consciences.
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** This show how much of a CompleteMonster Xehanort is.

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** This show how much of a CompleteMonster Xehanort is.is.
** Meh. [[spoiler: Getting Hearts may not actually make Nobodies more "real" than previously. Nobodies don't really "exist" and are essentially made of Nothingness. Besides, killing them reunites them with their Hearts, and actually does them a favor.]]
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* [[spoiler: The fact that Nobodies could grow hearts over time.]] How does this count as FridgeHorror? Simple. Think back to ChainOfMemories and KingdomHearts2; Sora (and, to an extent, Riku) single-handedly defeated the Organization and countless other Nobodies, justifying their actions with the fact that [[spoiler:Nobodies have no hearts. Come this game's revelation that Nobodies ''can'' have hearts]] and these "victories" [[UnfortunateImplications can be taken in a much darker light.]] Keep in mind that a heart is the only thing keeping Nobodies from becoming whole. That's right, folks. Sora and Riku [[spoiler:have been potentially murdering not heartless monsters, but '''''living human beings'''''.]]

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* [[spoiler: The fact that Nobodies could grow hearts over time.]] How does this count as FridgeHorror? Simple. Think back to ChainOfMemories and KingdomHearts2; Sora (and, to an extent, Riku) single-handedly defeated the Organization and countless other Nobodies, justifying their actions with the fact that [[spoiler:Nobodies have no hearts. Come this game's revelation that Nobodies ''can'' have hearts]] and these "victories" [[UnfortunateImplications can be taken in a much darker light.]] Keep in mind that a heart is the only thing keeping Nobodies from becoming whole. That's right, folks. Sora and Riku [[spoiler:have been potentially murdering not heartless monsters, but '''''living human beings'''''.]]]]
** This show how much of a CompleteMonster Xehanort is.
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** And we know all about Radiant Garden and it's Lab of Pods. - {{Tropers/PMiller1}}

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** And we know all about Radiant Garden and it's Lab of Pods. - {{Tropers/PMiller1}}{{Tropers/PMiller1}}
* [[spoiler: The fact that Nobodies could grow hearts over time.]] How does this count as FridgeHorror? Simple. Think back to ChainOfMemories and KingdomHearts2; Sora (and, to an extent, Riku) single-handedly defeated the Organization and countless other Nobodies, justifying their actions with the fact that [[spoiler:Nobodies have no hearts. Come this game's revelation that Nobodies ''can'' have hearts]] and these "victories" [[UnfortunateImplications can be taken in a much darker light.]] Keep in mind that a heart is the only thing keeping Nobodies from becoming whole. That's right, folks. Sora and Riku [[spoiler:have been potentially murdering not heartless monsters, but '''''living human beings'''''.]]
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* Why are there so many Heartless if there isn't a lot of people among the worlds? Well this troper can think that there is one world that Could Hold At least 582 and Maybe More... [[spoiler:Shibuya.]]
** And we know all about Radiant Garden and it's Lab of Pods.

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* Why are there so many Heartless if there isn't a lot of people among the worlds? Well this troper can think that there is one world that Could Hold At least 582 and Maybe More... [[spoiler:Shibuya.]]
]] - {{Tropers/PMiller1}}
** And we know all about Radiant Garden and it's Lab of Pods. - {{Tropers/PMiller1}}
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* Why are thay so many Heartless if thay isn't a Lot of Human on Some of World? Well I can think that is One World that Could Hold At least 582 and Maybe More... [[spoiler:Shibuya.]]
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* Why are thay there so many Heartless if thay there isn't a Lot lot of Human on Some of World? people among the worlds? Well I this troper can think that there is One World one world that Could Hold At least 582 and Maybe More... [[spoiler:Shibuya.]]
** And I we know all about Radiant Garden and it it's Lab of Pods.
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** [[http://pmiller1.deviantart.com/art/It-s-a-Wonderful-Heartless-297107104 It could be Worse...]]

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** [[http://pmiller1.deviantart.com/art/It-s-a-Wonderful-Heartless-297107104 It could be Worse...]]]]
* Why are thay so many Heartless if thay isn't a Lot of Human on Some of World? Well I can think that is One World that Could Hold At least 582 and Maybe More... [[spoiler:Shibuya.]]
** And I know about Radiant Garden and it Lab of Pods.

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* In ''Dream Drop Distance'', we learn that [[spoiler: Braig and all the other members of Organization XIII were intended as new hosts for Xehanort. He states he's already "half Xehanort", with the camera zooming in on his yellow eye. His hair isn't going grey because of his age.....he's slowly taking on Xehanort's coloration, just like Terra did after his GrandtheftMe]]. Likewise, this explains why Saix's eyes are yellow instead of green like in Birth By Sleep. [[spoiler:And it explains why Isa had ''bright'' blue hair, while Saix's is lighter, with grey mixed in, he, too, is taking on Xehanort's coloration.]]
** And supports Axel's claims that Saix had changed from when they originally joined the Organization.
** This also explains why Organization XIII is comprised entirely of males ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and]] [[PsychoForHire Larxene]]), and adds a whole new level to Saix's claims that Xion was never a member- [[spoiler: she was supposed to become Sora, never Xehanort]].
*** And of course Organization XIII were [[spoiler: perfect vessels for Xehanort's heart- ''Nobodies don't have hearts of their own!'']]
** The Replica Program takes on a whole new meaning considering all this, as it [[spoiler:essentially kills two birds with one stone in Xehanort's point of view: create suitable replicas to serve as vessels as part of his plot to forge the χ-blade, but more importantly, create a duplicate of Sora to serve as his primary new host. Commissioning it under the guise of creating a Keyblade wielder for the Organization serves as both a handy excuse as well as playing further into his plan; returning Hearts to Kingdom Hearts only makes it more powerful. This also adds another level of detail as to exactly why Roxas and Xion were so important to Xemnas.]]
** They also explain that the [[spoiler: letter X]] acted as a way to mark and monitor people who were [[spoiler: prospective vessels. This pushes Saix's X scar into being full-blown FridgeHorror and provides an actual reason for the theme naming of Organization XIII.]]
** The revelations also explain why Xemnas and Ansem, Seeker of Darkness never seemed to come into conflict, despite somewhat competing goals. [[spoiler: Since they were on the same side the whole time, both working towards either snagging Sora or creating more opportunities to make more Xehanorts in general.]]
* The black cloak is said to resist the corrupting effects of Darkness, so it would be redundant that Nobodies would wear one. [[spoiler:In ''Dream Drop Distance'', we find out that Nobodies are able to grow hearts over time, but Xemnas and Xigbar fooled the others into believing that they didn't have one and thus couldn't be corrupted by the darkness. The cloak unintentionally protected them from darkness the whole time to further the illusion. Xemnas was lying the whole time. Nice foreshadowing Nomura, it slipped under most people's minds.]]
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* The TWEWY Gang [[spoiler: were all recreated by Joshua from pieces of their memory following Shibuya's destruction by TheHeartless, right? [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse Then what happened to the originals?]] This Troper does not think a Reapers Game can save them now...]]

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* The TWEWY Gang [[spoiler: were all recreated by Joshua from pieces of their memory following Shibuya's destruction by TheHeartless, right? [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse Then what happened to the originals?]] This Troper does not think a Reapers Game can save them now...]]
** [[http://pmiller1.deviantart.com/art/It-s-a-Wonderful-Heartless-297107104 It could be Worse...
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** Yes, And that would be becasue [[spoiler:of Shibuya's destruction by the Heartless.]]

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** Yes, And that would be becasue [[spoiler:of Shibuya's destruction by the Heartless.]]

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* The TWEWY Gang [[spoiler: were all recreated by Joshua from pieces of their memory following Shibuya's destruction by TheHeartless, right? [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse Then what happened to the originals?]] This Troper does not think a Reapers Game can save them now...
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* Both FridgeHorror and FridgeBrilliance, [[VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou All the TWEwY Guys]] are in Traverse Town, That would mean [[spoiler:The World have Ends?]].
** And that would be becasue [[spoiler:of Shibuya's destruction by the Heartless.]]

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* Both FridgeHorror and FridgeBrilliance, [[VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou All the TWEwY Guys]] are in Traverse Town, That would mean [[spoiler:The [[spoiler:They World have Ends?]].
Ended?]].
** Yes, And that would be becasue [[spoiler:of Shibuya's destruction by the Heartless.]]

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* Both FridgeHorror and FridgeBrilliance, [[VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou Neku Sakuraba]] is in Traverse Town, That would mean His World have Ends.
** I think you mean "His World Ends Without Him".
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* Both FridgeHorror and FridgeBrilliance, [[VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou Neku Sakuraba]] is All the TWEwY Guys]] are in Traverse Town, That would mean His [[spoiler:The World have Ends.
Ends?]].
** I think you mean "His World Ends Without Him".
*** Yes.
And that would be becasue [[spoiler:of Shibuya's destruction by the Heartless.]]
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* The reason Traverse Town's music is similar, yet different in this game? [[spoiler:It's not the real Traverse Town, but a lookalike made by Joshua from Rhyme's memories.]]

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* Both FridgeHorror and FridgeBrilliance, [[VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou Neku Sakuraba]] is in Traverse Town, That would mean His World have Ends.
** I think you mean "His World Ends Without Him".
*** Yes.
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Looking for FridgeLogic and such for the rest of the series, excluding ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep''? [[Fridge/KingdomHearts Check here]]. ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts358DaysOver2'' has its own page [[Fridge/KingdomHearts358DaysOver2 here]].
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