History Fridge / Erfworld

* So, Parson gives to the Erfworld that speech about cruelty and booping out profanity, and then his ban is lifted just as he shouts "Fuck you!". It is usually seen as a small recompensation for what he's going through, but also it could have a more direct meaning: the only way for the world to say "Fuck you!" to Parson - he's to get the job done, and no matter how much he swears, the world doesn't care about him and his complains.

* So, Parson gives to the Erfworld that speech about cruelty and booping out profanity, and then his ban is lifted just as he shouts "Fuck you!". It is usually seen as a small recompensation for what he's going through, but also it could have a more direct meaning: the only way for the world to say "Fuck you!" to Parson - he's to get the job done, and no matter how much he swears, his complains are futile.

* Given that Charlie is fated to fail and, for all he's the BigBad and hugely scary, has actually been TheChewToy on a number of levels for quite awhile, his [[ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}} signamancy as Charlie Brown]] is less fridge brilliance and more 'We really didn't see it coming?'

* In Lord Crush's story, we learn that each fallen side gets a book published about their experiences up until the point their side was destroyed. One might wonder why Jillian didn't look for Faq's book when she reformed her side. In this book, she would discover that Wanda killed King Banhammer. You may wonder why she doesn't know why Wanda isn't willing to turn to her, but it makes sense that she hasn't looked. She believes what she wants to believe and it's not like she is much interested in reading. Besides that, it's possible that Faq's book didn't appear in her side's library and even if it did, she would have had to spend a good amount of time looking for it. I can foresee someone making the suggestion to her to look for the book to discover the truth. This person would most likely be Charlie when he decides to chew her out. This may even be related to the previous Fridge Brilliance. Jillian's mind was altered. It's possible that she is confused about Wanda's origin and doesn't think to question her loyalty to her father. Even if she had reason to suspect Wanda, she's too in love with her to think of it and too focused on war to consider reading a musty old book.

* The ongoing stream of {{asspull}}s that kept screwing up Parson's plans and allow him to be defeated by Ansom despite Ansom's stupidity and pride seem irritating until it is revealed that the whole scenario is SUPPOSED to be an UnwinnableTrainingSimulation, that the GM is supposed to cheat, and that only way for the player to win is to cheat better, instead of merely exploiting the system. Parson realizes this and decides to [[spoiler: reanimate a volcano]]. -- Wodan46

* Given that Charlie is fated to fail and, for all he's the BigBad and hugely scary, has actually been TheChewToy on a number of levels for quite awhile, his [[{{Peanuts}} signamancy as Charlie Brown]] is less fridge brilliance and more 'We really didn't see it coming?'

* Charlie proposes to Parson that one way to disprove Toolism would be to croak a "Tool". He speaks hypothetically, but it becomes FridgeBrilliance after you learn that he already knows it to be possible, since he remembers how Judy Gale croaked Bell and Blair, both attuned to their Arkentools.

* In Lord Crush's story, we learn that each fallen side gets a book published about their experiences up until the point their side was destroyed. One might wonder why Jillian didn't look for Faq's book when she reformed her side. In this book, she would discover that Wanda killed King Banhammer. You may wonder why she doesn't know why Wanda isn't willing to turn to her, but it makes sense that she hasn't looked. She believes what she wants to believe and it's not like she is much interested in reading. Besides that, it's possible that Faq's book didn't appear in her side's library and even if it did, she would have had to spend a good amount of time looking for it. I can foresee someone making the suggestion to her to look for the book to discover the truth. This person would most likely be Charlie when he decides to chew her out. This may even be related to the previous Fridge Brilliance. Jillian's mind was altered. It's possible that she is confused about Wanda's origin and doesn't think to question her loyalty to her father. Even if she had reason to suspect Wanda, she's too in love with her to think of it and too focused on war to consider reading a musty old book.

* Read [[http://www.erfworld.com/2009/10/summer-updates-048/ this update]]. Marvel at how Parson keeps screwing around with [[spoiler:Charlie]]. Then notice how [[spoiler:''Parson just swore uncensored.'' Like he did at the end of Book 1. What could this mean about how the natural Thinkamancy of Erfworld is now affecting Parson]]? Apparently, Parson can do this at will now. [[spoiler: "Beats the shit out of a coconut..."]]

* One of the first things that Parson says when he really starts getting into the Chief Warlord job is "[[http://www.erfworld.com/book-1-archive/?px=%2F031.jpg And I always did like to play the bad guys]]". And, sure enough, his maneuvers include [[spoiler:[[http://www.erfworld.com/book-1-archive/?px=%2F131.jpg breaking a truce]]]].

* We probably all thought Charlie was a Thinkamancer until TheReveal that he was [[http://www.erfworld.com/2013/04/inner-peace-through-superior-firepower-%E2%80%93-episode-066/ actually a Carnymancer]]. This actually makes a lot of sense. Charlie stays behind the scenes, pretending to play by the "rules", but is actually manipulating people in ways that benefit him. He's been "rigging the game" the ''whole time''.

* Wanda's lines in Book 1 when incapacitated seem to unnerve Ansom to a strange degree if they were nothing but a taunt.
-->'''Wanda:''' ...More than what you took from me. Come down. Touch me. Touch me with them.
** "More than what you took from me" could be regarding Jillian's choosing him over her, could be regarding his possession of the Arkenpliers, or something else. "Touch me with them," however, is clearly responding to the presence of the Arkenpliers. Ansom realizes that a) she means "kill me with them," freaky in itself, or b) she literally means "touch me with them", which would reveal the fact that she, not Ansom, was attuned to the great Arkentool of the house of Jetstone.

** In Lord Crush's story, we learn that each fallen side gets a book published about their experiences up until the point their side was destroyed. One might wonder why Jillian didn't look for Faq's book when she reformed her side. In this book, she would discover that Wanda killed King Banhammer. You may wonder why she doesn't know why Wanda isn't willing to turn to her, but it makes sense that she hasn't looked. She believes what she wants to believe and it's not like she is much interested in reading. Besides that, it's possible that Faq's book didn't appear in her side's library and even if it did, she would have had to spend a good amount of time looking for it. I can foresee someone making the suggestion to her to look for the book to discover the truth. This person would most likely be Charlie when he decides to chew her out. This may even be related to the previous Fridge Brilliance. Jillian's mind was altered. It's possible that she is confused about Wanda's origin and doesn't think to question her loyalty to her father. Even if she had reason to suspect Wanda, she's too in love with her to think of it and too focused on war to consider reading a musty old book.

* A lot of Jillian's conflicted personality and desires in the main comic are explained when you discover that Charlie and Betsy pretty thoroughly MindRaped Jillian in the "Inner Peace Through Superior Firepower" storylines. When Betsy tried to forcibly rewire Jillian's mind to remove her aggression, it did almost exactly what Charlie predicted, it left Jillian's mind shattered. Now she's got the remnants of her original impulses, what she had before the MindRape, but she also has impulses based on her new, edited, memories, and on top of that are the alien impulses Betsy tried to impose on her, and all of these are pulling her in different directions. This also specifically explains why she's so schizophrenic towards Wanda. She does still Love Wanda (not even Charlie and Betsy could get rid of that), but she no longer remembers why she loves her, the foundational experiences that caused her to fall in love in the first place.

** "More than what you took from me" could be regarding Jillian's choosing him over her, could be regarding his possession of the Arkenpliers, or something else. "Touch me with them," however, is clearly responding to the presence of the Arkenpliers. Ansom realizes that a) she means "kill me with them," freaky in itself, or b) she literally means "touch me with them", which would reveal the fact that she, not Ansom, was attuned to the great Arkentool of the house of Jetstone.

** "More than what you took from me" could be regarding Jillian's choosing him over her, could be regarding his possession of the Arkenpliers, or something else. "Touch me with them," however, is clearly responding to the presence of the Arkenpliers. Ansom realizes that a) she means "kill me with them," freaky in itself, or she literally means "touch me with them", which would reveal the fact that she, not Ansom, was attuned to the great Arkentool of the house of Jetstone.

'''Parson''': And now he's got one of those coming after ''him''.

-->'''Jack''': "[Charlie] summoned a perfect warlord. One whose Fate was to destroy the 'Wicked Witch' of the story. ''And she did''. It was inexorable. Charlie must have set her loose in the world, then watched her hunt down Overlady Blair, the most powerful Ruler in the land, letting nothing stop her." \\
'''Parson''': "And now he's got one of those coming after ''him''."

Jack: "[Charlie] summoned a perfect warlord. One whose Fate was to destroy the 'Wicked Witch' of the story. ''And she did''. It was inexorable. Charlie must have set her loose in the world, then watched her hunt down Overlady Blair, the most powerful Ruler in the land, letting nothing stop her."
Parson: ''And now he's got one of those coming after ''him''."

* We probably all thought Charlie was a Thinkamancer until TheReveal that he was [[http://www.erfworld.com/2013/04/inner-peace-through-superior-firepower-%E2%80%93-episode-066/ actually a Carnymancer]]. This actually makes a lot of sense. Charlie stays behind the scenes, pretending to play by the "rules", but is actually manipulating people in ways that benefit him. He's been "rigging the game" the ''whole time''.

[[AC:FridgeBrilliance]]
* Parson's purpose to fundamentally change the nature of Erfworld can be completed within the rules of the world. If all the territories are allied or if only a single side exists then everybody's turn will occur at the same time. A panel of the comic states that the Coalition members experience simultaneous turns whilst they are part of the coalition and this is even taken advantage of when charlie un-allies with the coalition and plans to really with Tranylvitia to manipulate the turn order in book 1. If everyone is in one alliance, regardless of if it occured due to conquest or alliance then everyone would have their turn at once, with no other "turn blocks" existing. With no real time "off turn" move points would become irrelevant, as would hex borders. Everyone world move in real time just like in real life and if you felt like it you could walk across as many hexes as you pleased.
** This means Parson can achieve most of his purpose without having to change the rules. He just has to conquer everyone.
* Read [[http://www.erfworld.com/2009/10/summer-updates-048/ this update.]] Marvel at how Parson keeps screwing around with [[spoiler:Charlie]]. Then notice how [[spoiler:''Parson just swore uncensored.'' Like he did at the end of Book 1. What could this mean about how the natural Thinkamancy of Erfworld is now affecting Parson?]]
** Apparently, Parson can do this at will now. [[spoiler: "Beats the shit out of a coconut..."]]
** From what I heard, Parson's inability to swear was linked directly to Erfworld's partnership with [[Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick Giant In The Playground]], his PrecisionFStrike being the only exception.
* In ''{{Erfworld}}'', the ongoing stream of {{asspull}}s that kept screwing up Parson's plans and allow him to be defeated by Ansom despite Ansom's stupidity and pride seem irritating until it is revealed that the whole scenario is SUPPOSED to be an UnwinnableTrainingSimulation, that the GM is supposed to cheat, and that only way for the player to win is to cheat better, instead of merely exploiting the system. Parson realizes this and decides to [[spoiler: reanimate a volcano]]. -- Wodan46
* It seemed a little confusing that bringing the tower down in Spacerock City would remove its Capital Status and destroy the portal. FridgeBrilliance #1; the tower is the only remaining part of the Garrison still held by Jetstone. Gobwin Knob already has the Airspace secure, and Spacerock has no Dungeon. Once the tower is taken care of, the city will be officially conquered, by Erfworld rules. However, FridgeBrilliance #2! Once the tower fell, King Slately led some flyers into the Airspace! The city is still under Jetstone control, because while Gobwin Knob has the Garrison, the Airspace is contested again!
** Close, but not quite; the Airspace is just one path to attack the city. The three parts of a Garrison are Courtyard, Tower, and Dungeon (Airspace can only attack Tower, Outer Walls can only attack Courtyard and Tunnels, if there are any, can only attack Dungeon; however, any part of the Garrison can be attacked from any other part), which Spacerock does not have. Parson's maneuver moved his troops directly from the Airspace into the Garrison Courtyard, which is normally impossible. By destroying the Tower, only the Courtyard remained, which was presumed to be empty of Jetstone units. The Portal is still active though, because one Jetstone unit survived the Tower's collapse, and is incapacitated underneath it, in the Courtyard.
* FridgeBrilliance regarding Faq's lack of Casters in Jillian's new reign: Wanda, Maria, and Jack were all popped by that kingdom under her father, which may be why none have popped for her now. Those cities have expended their ability to pop Casters already.
** Where was it mentioned that a city can only pop a certain number of casters? Faq ''does'' have a Turnamancer. And Wanda wasn't popped there.
** The Turnamancer is a former Unaroyal, and was hired from the Magic Kingdom. Either way, "limited number of casters" is one of the theories that would explain the fact that new sides pop casters more. Others include simply that newer sides have a higher chance of popping casters, which decays with time, and since Jillian essentially re-established Faq instead of starting a new side, it started out pre-decayed. Both are just theories, however.
** The lack of native casters may be to show contrast between FAQ under jillian, and under king banhammer. As shown in the text updates, banhammer's FAQ had a whopping eight casters, and that was before they got Wanda.
** Old Faq's abundance of casters can be put down to Banhammer's constant attempts at popping an heir before he got Jillian, it is also mentioned in one of the other text updates that he tries to pop warlords quite a lot in general. New Faq has a lack of casters purely by chance since, as a relatively new force, they have had less time to pop units than most of the sides and they had to focus on normal, more combat effective, units to make up the bulk of their forces rather than obsessively popping warlords like Banhammer did.
*** Definitely this. Remember, casters can only be acquired by popping warlords, and Faq has only popped one warlord at all since Jillian restarted it. Not too surprising that she didn't hit jackpot on her first try.

* We probably all thought Charlie was a Thinkamancer until TheReveal that he was [[http://www.erfworld.com/2013/04/inner-peace-through-superior-firepower-%E2%80%93-episode-066/ actually a Carnymancer]]. This actually makes a lot of sense. Charlie stays behind the scenes, pretending to play by the "rules", but is actually manipulating people in ways that benefit him. He's been "rigging the game" the ''whole time''.
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[[AC:FridgeLogic]]
* We know that [[http://www.erfworld.com/2009/09/summer-updates-033/ a Chief Warlord's bonus varies with his proximity to his units]] - his direct bonus to his stack is larger than the one he grants to all units in his hex, which itself is larger than the one he grants to all units in his side. We also know that since [[http://www.erfworld.com/book-1-archive/?px=%2F040a.jpg nobody in Erfworld can see Parson's stats]], his bonus can only be measured by its effect on his units. He's never joined a stack, so we don't know his direct bonus - but why don't we know Parson's hex-wide bonus, which would surely be applied to all units in his city?
** We may soon learn Parson's direct bonus...[[spoiler: [[http://www.erfworld.com/book-2-archive/?px=%2F2010-09-23.jpg He's gonna fight in this one.]]]]
** ''We'' don't know his hex-wide bonus, but in-universe they know it. It just hasn't come up yet, so it hasn't been mentioned.
** It was mentioned early on that his leadership bonus is very low.
*** His bonus is 2, the same as his level.
* Everyone knows Retconjuration is reserved for the titans. How do they know this? If there were any Retconjurors, nobody would know.
** [[MindScrew The knowledge was Retconjured into everyone's minds, probably.]]
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[[AC:FridgeHorror]]
* Erfworld runs on a CommandAndConquerEconomy; Units dig for gems, gems go in the treasury, the treasury is slowly emptied because they're used for everything. New units pop when gems are spent. Gems are spent as upkeep for units, so food pops for them. Spells cost gems to make and cast. Artifacts cost gems. But unlike the TropeNamer, gems don't grow like weeds. ''What happens when the gems run out?'' Parson ''better'' get to breaking the very rules of Erfworld, because all life will end if he can't cheat some way of surviving without them.
** No, popping new units only costs ''time''. Croaking enemy units is implied [[MoneySpider to give you money]], and sacking cities definitely does. It's also implied that natural resources reset when a city is sacked and rebuilt by a new side.
** There are actually multiple things wrong with both of the statements here: first, cities produce shmuckers; popping units doesn't cost anything besides their upkeep once they've been popped; spells don't cost anything besides [[{{mana}} juice]], the cost came from buying a spell that they didn't otherwise have access to from another caster; artifacts aren't built by by people, they pop into existence, this isn't {{Exalted}}; it's never been stated or implied ''anywhere'' that croaking units gives shmuckers, nor that natural resources reset; gems are an extra source of income for sides, not primary income sources. Sorry to be blunt, but the problem here stems from misunderstanding things, and I needed to fix that.
** One more thing to add. Don't mix up artifacts with magic items. They bot use magic of course, but magic items are created by casters, link-ups of casters. Artifacts just pop. Arkentools may be considered artifacts, but they are said to have been used to make Erfworld and new Arkentools NEVER pop (it is unknown if they can be destroyed). Magic items and maybe artifacts can be destroyed, however. Parson tossed his sword into lava (the sword could be an artifact since the handle popped in a meal, but Bogroll fabricated the sword itself.) Fabrication is used to make non-magic items, so the sword's nature debatable. The wiki said it is magic, however. Lastly, new gems can be found in a place previously suspected to be mined out as Rockwell found out. All you have to is erupt a volcano to bring the pockets to the surface (just make sure you can escape first...)
*** Bogroll did ''not'' fabricate the sword's blade. The three pieces of the sword popped in three of Parson's rations; Bogroll just put them together. It probably is an artifact.

* We probably all thought Charlie was a Thinkamancer until TheReveal that he was [[http://www.erfworld.com/2013/04/inner-peace-through-superior-firepower-%E2%80%93-episode-066/ actually a Carnymancer]]. This actually makes a lot of sense. Charlie stays behind the scenes, pretending to play by the "rules", but is actually manipulating people in ways that benefit him. He's been "rigging the game" the ''whole time''.