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23rd May '16 8:45:49 AM JC96
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* * DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Thirsty Rawlings is a would-be lawyer "guilty people hires" and who claims to have graduated from the University of Guam. [[Series/BetterCallSaul Sound familiar?!]]

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* * DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Thirsty Rawlings is a would-be lawyer "guilty people hires" and who claims to have graduated from the University of Guam. Guam.]] [[Series/BetterCallSaul Sound familiar?!]]familiar?!]]
* Why Lucious was successfully able to convince Freda that [[BlatantLies he didn't have his father killed?]]
* When told by her that a drunk Carol blurted it out at the ASAs, Lucious's response?: "Why would you listen to a crackhead?" Lucious isn't wrong about that as Carol is indeed said description and had fell off the wagon (again) and expected, Freda felt (no alliteration intended) that UnreliableNarrtator vibe towards Carol.
** Freda tells him Carol, (not kidding), told her, Lucious downplayed it with
23rd May '16 8:14:49 AM JC96
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22nd May '16 7:30:45 PM JC96
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* * DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Thirsty Rawlings is a would-be lawyer "guilty people hires" and who claims to have graduated from the University of Guam. [[Series/BetterCallSaul Sound familiar?!]]
27th Nov '15 12:53:31 AM Anteres
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4th Nov '15 1:42:23 PM JC96
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* When Thirsty Rawlings mentioned he went to the University of Guam School of Law, said trope buzzed in some fans who were familiar with [[BetterCallSaul another character of a different show who earned law degree online from the University of American Samoa.]] [[/folder]]
4th Nov '15 1:42:00 PM JC96
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* If his mother and son are [[spoiler: bipolar]], wouldn't that make Lucious in the same category as well. [[/folder]]

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* If his mother and son are [[spoiler: bipolar]], wouldn't that make Lucious in the same category as well. well.
* When Thirsty Rawlings mentioned he went to the University of Guam School of Law, said trope buzzed in some fans who were familiar with [[BetterCallSaul another character of a different show who earned law degree online from the University of American Samoa.]]
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15th Oct '15 8:42:12 AM FierceArtist
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* Lucious makes Vernon swear to secrecy that he never reveals that he was the one that [[spoiler:murdered Bunkie]]. Vernon breaks that promise when he tells Cookie (who knows, but needed confirmation), and figured that if Lucious is the the sort of guy who would [[spoiler:murder even his closest friends for turning on him]], likely sold him out to the Feds before Lucious finds out (in his mind Cookie knows, since the cat was out of the bag anyway. That Lucious (initially) blames Cookie makes the whole thing better.
15th Oct '15 5:50:42 AM culturalrebel
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** Andre is Cersei: they're the eldest children and the ones who try ''so hard'' to follow their fathers' principles, do everything they're told, and denied what they feel is their birthright for arbitrary reasons (for Cersei, she's denied Casterly Rock because of her gender. For Andre, he's not in the running for Empire Records because he's not a musician). Both are also very manipulative and have no qualms pitting one sibling against the other to further their goals.

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** Andre is Cersei: they're the eldest children and the ones who try ''so hard'' to follow their fathers' principles, do everything they're told, and denied what they feel is their birthright for arbitrary reasons (for Cersei, she's denied Casterly Rock because of her gender. For Andre, he's not in the running for Empire Records because he's not a musician). Both are also very manipulative and have no qualms pitting one sibling against the other to further their goals.



** Jamal is Tyrion, in that both are abused and ignored by their fathers for a trait they were born with (Tywin hates Tyrion partially because he's a dawrf, Lucious hates that Jamal is gay), and yet both are the ones who are most similar to their fathers and most 'worthy' of their legacy:

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** Jamal is Tyrion, in that both are abused and ignored by their fathers for a trait they were born with (Tywin hates Tyrion partially because he's a dawrf, dwarf, Lucious hates that Jamal is gay), and yet both are the ones who are most similar to their fathers and most 'worthy' of their legacy:


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** That's not even getting into the fact that both families have adopted lions as part of their creed and/or symbols.
11th Oct '15 6:52:08 PM JC96
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* Jamal & Hakim's rendition of "Money For Nothing" serves as this perfect statement of where Jamal is by the beginning of the second season. His musicianship is the thing that got him success ("My talent's worth a fortune"), but he can't perform because he has to run the company ("I'm all about my business"). And it's all set to a song which originally included the lyric "That little faggot, he's a millonaire".[[/folder]]

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* Jamal & Hakim's rendition of "Money For Nothing" serves as this perfect statement of where Jamal is by the beginning of the second season. His musicianship is the thing that got him success ("My talent's worth a fortune"), but he can't perform because he has to run the company ("I'm all about my business"). And it's all set to a song which originally included the lyric "That little faggot, he's a millonaire".millonaire".
* If his mother and son are [[spoiler: bipolar]], wouldn't that make Lucious in the same category as well.
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8th Oct '15 4:52:38 AM culturalrebel
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** Lucious is Tywin, as both are the patriarchs that built up the family fortune, who see their families as useful tools at best and hindrances at worst.

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** Lucious is Tywin, as both are the patriarchs that built up the family fortune, who see their families as useful tools at best and hindrances enemies at worst.



** Andre is Cersei: they're eldest child and the ones who try ''so hard'' to follow their fathers' principles, does everything they're told, and denied what they feel is their birthright because of arbitrary reasons (for Cersei, she's denied Casterly Rock because of her gender. For Andre, he's not in the running for Empire Records because he's not a musician).
** Hakeem is Jaime, as both are their fathers' favourites, heavily spoiled and reckless at the beginning of the series.
** Jamal is Tyrion, in that both are abused and ignored by their fathers for a trait they were born with (Tywin hates Tyrion partially because he's a dawrf, Lucious hates that Jamal is gay), and yet both are the ones who are most similar like their fathers and most 'worthy' of their legacy.

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** Andre is Cersei: they're the eldest child children and the ones who try ''so hard'' to follow their fathers' principles, does do everything they're told, and denied what they feel is their birthright because of for arbitrary reasons (for Cersei, she's denied Casterly Rock because of her gender. For Andre, he's not in the running for Empire Records because he's not a musician).
musician). Both are also very manipulative and have no qualms pitting one sibling against the other to further their goals.
** Hakeem is Jaime, as both are their fathers' favourites, heavily spoiled and reckless at the beginning of the series.
series. They both also undergo CharacterDevelopment and slowly become better men.
** Jamal is Tyrion, in that both are abused and ignored by their fathers for a trait they were born with (Tywin hates Tyrion partially because he's a dawrf, Lucious hates that Jamal is gay), and yet both are the ones who are most similar like to their fathers and most 'worthy' of their legacy.legacy:
-->'''Tyrion:''' Why father, I believe I am you writ small.
-->'''Jamal:''' Everyone's gonna see that I'm you, but on steroids.
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