History Fridge / DragonBallZ

24th Mar '17 9:42:13 PM GingahNinja47
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*** Actually, he cannot function in everyday life. He is shown repeatedly attempting to, only to fail. Consider every single farming
scene in Dragon Ball Super, where Goku tries to be a functional member of society (albeit just for Chichi's sake) and consistently fails.

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*** Actually, he cannot function in everyday life. He is shown repeatedly attempting to, only to fail. Consider every single farming
farming scene in Dragon Ball Super, where Goku tries to be a functional member of society (albeit just for Chichi's sake) and consistently fails.
24th Mar '17 9:41:26 PM GingahNinja47
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*** Actually, he cannot function in everyday life. He is shown repeatedly attempting to, only to fail. Consider every single farming
scene in Dragon Ball Super, where Goku tries to be a functional member of society (albeit just for Chichi's sake) and consistently fails.
6th Mar '17 5:29:19 AM ShorinBJ
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** Even worse is that Vegeta recovered much sooner than Goku did thanks to the advanced medical equipment Vegeta had access to then. Vegeta was going to head right back to earth until he heard Frieza went to Namek. If Frieza didn't learn about the Dragonballs, Goku would've doomed the earth.

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** Even worse is that Vegeta recovered much sooner than Goku did thanks to the advanced medical equipment Vegeta had access to then. Vegeta was going to head right back to earth Earth until he heard Frieza went to Namek. If Frieza didn't learn about the Dragonballs, Goku would've doomed the earth.Earth.



** One word. ''Saibamen''. (And he's more than likely right; a human with standard human-level martial arts training probably tops out in the 100s somewhere. Saibamen were as strong as Raditz was upon his arrival on earth: power level of '''1200.''')

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** One word. ''Saibamen''. (And he's more than likely right; a human with standard human-level martial arts training probably tops out in the 100s somewhere. Saibamen were as strong as Raditz was upon his arrival on earth: Earth: power level of '''1200.''')



** And this is possibly where Gero changed the power levels of the Androids; In Trunk's Timeline Goku would have arrived on earth and would have fought a bloody battle with Frieza. As Cell has Frieza's cells, this means that Gero was, on some level, aware of the battle. He then must have known that the Mechanical Bodies he built for himself and 19 would be pointless, as Goku was clearly above their power level even before training and instead went to tweak on 17 and 18 more. In the main timeline, Goku never fought in it and the battle itself lasted too short for Gero to collect any meaningful data (Frieza and King Cold both got obliterated to ash, as oppose to possibly leaving behind corpses for Gero to collect and study). And the reason why 17 and 18 are weaker in Trunk's timeline? Gero always makes his androids powerful (as evident with 16 being the most powerful despite being the earliest one) and tone down from there. Gero, knowing his own #20 Mechanical body would not suffice, instead opted to tone down 17 and 18's power to manageable levels (which still predictably failed).

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** And this is possibly where Gero changed the power levels of the Androids; In Trunk's Timeline Goku would have arrived on earth Earth and would have fought a bloody battle with Frieza. As Cell has Frieza's cells, this means that Gero was, on some level, aware of the battle. He then must have known that the Mechanical Bodies he built for himself and 19 would be pointless, as Goku was clearly above their power level even before training and instead went to tweak on 17 and 18 more. In the main timeline, Goku never fought in it and the battle itself lasted too short for Gero to collect any meaningful data (Frieza and King Cold both got obliterated to ash, as oppose to possibly leaving behind corpses for Gero to collect and study). And the reason why 17 and 18 are weaker in Trunk's timeline? Gero always makes his androids powerful (as evident with 16 being the most powerful despite being the earliest one) and tone down from there. Gero, knowing his own #20 Mechanical body would not suffice, instead opted to tone down 17 and 18's power to manageable levels (which still predictably failed).



** Alternate interpretation: Gero in the original timeline would probably heard that Goku had died. This was six months before the androids attacked. So possibly he stopped upgrading the androids or downgraded them because their most powerful opponent was dead, and changed their programming. In the "main" timeline, the core instruction would have been something like "Kill Goku." That was all they were programmed to do, which explains their focus on finding him. But in the original timeline, with Goku dead, Gero might have changed the mission to "Kill everyone."



* It used to bother me that in in the Buu saga the people competing in the martial arts tournaments are all such weaklings and people in general are so disbelieving in abilities like ki and energy attacks and easily accept Mr Satans claims that its all a trick when in Dragonball those same abilities seemed much more widespread and known about. But then I realised that by the end of Dragonball its pretty much just Goku and the other Z fighters who use those abilities and they basically disappear from the tournament scene until the Buu saga. All their adventures and battles take place in out of the way places or other planets and largely remain under the radar of the general public up til the cell saga. Also over the course of Dragonball Z nobody has sought out any of the Z fighters to train under them the way that Goku and Krillin sought out master Roshi. So its not surprising that by the time of the Buu knowledge about abilities like energy attacks and use of ki would have faded out of public consciousness and the techniques themselves fallen out of practice.

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* It used to bother me that in in the Buu saga the people competing in the martial arts tournaments are all such weaklings and people in general are so disbelieving in abilities like ki and energy attacks and easily accept Mr Satans Satan's claims that its all a trick when in Dragonball those same abilities seemed much more widespread and known about. But then I realised that by the end of Dragonball its it's pretty much just Goku and the other Z fighters who use those abilities and they basically disappear from the tournament scene until the Buu saga. All their adventures and battles take place in out of the way places or other planets and largely remain under the radar of the general public up til the cell saga. Cell Saga. Also over the course of Dragonball Z nobody has sought out any of the Z fighters to train under them the way that Goku and Krillin sought out master Master Roshi. So its it's not surprising that by the time of the Buu knowledge about abilities like energy attacks and use of ki would have faded out of public consciousness and the techniques themselves fallen out of practice.



** On top of that, let's be honest here, the knowledge that there are literally multiple people standing on earth with them that could ''destroy the goddamn planet on a whim'' would scare the shit out of the vast majority of people. Refusing to acknowledge that as a possibility is probably the only thing keeping half the population of the earth sane.

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** On top of that, let's be honest here, the knowledge that there are literally multiple people standing on earth Earth with them that could ''destroy the goddamn planet on a whim'' would scare the shit out of the vast majority of people. Refusing to acknowledge that as a possibility is probably the only thing keeping half the population of the earth Earth sane.



** A many years after that, [[Anime/DragonBallZBattleOfGods Beerus]] comes along and takes out Super Saiyan III Goku with ''one finger'', prompting our heroes to discover a form even beyond that: the Super Saiyan God.
** Super Saiyan God and even the form beyond that proves to be ineffective against [[spoiler: Goku Black]], who achieved a Super Saiyan God form of his own, [[spoiler: Super Saiyan Rose]]. Judging from the next episode, [[spoiler: Goku and Vegeta will revisit Potara fusion, last seen in the Buu Saga]].

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** A And many years after that, [[Anime/DragonBallZBattleOfGods Beerus]] comes along and takes out Super Saiyan III Goku with ''one finger'', prompting our heroes to discover a form even beyond that: the Super Saiyan God.
** Super Saiyan God and even the form beyond that proves to be ineffective against [[spoiler: Goku [[spoiler:Goku Black]], who achieved a Super Saiyan God form of his own, [[spoiler: Super [[spoiler:Super Saiyan Rose]]. Judging from the next episode, [[spoiler: Goku [[spoiler:Goku and Vegeta will revisit Potara fusion, last seen in the Buu Saga]].



* If Frieza feared the Saiyan so much, then why did it take [[spoiler:a request from Beerus]] for him to destroy their homeworld, and ''still'' kept three of them around? Well, [[Manga/JacoTheGalacticPatrolman Jaco]] explains that the Galactic Patrol, enemy of Frieza's Planet Trade Organization, has virus bombs that can quickly extinguish all life on a planet but the Saiyan are immune to that. The Saiyan were the only members of his army that could take on the Galactic Patrol without worrying of the virus bomb.

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* If Frieza feared the Saiyan so much, then why did it take [[spoiler:a request from Beerus]] for him to destroy their homeworld, and ''still'' kept three of them around? Well, [[Manga/JacoTheGalacticPatrolman Jaco]] explains that the Galactic Patrol, enemy of Frieza's Planet Trade Organization, has virus bombs that can quickly extinguish all life on a planet but the Saiyan Saiyans are immune to that. The Saiyan Saiyans were the only members of his army that could take on the Galactic Patrol without worrying of about the virus bomb.


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** Kami is never shown training them in the sense of sparring with them or even teaching them much at all. They seem to mostly train independently, although a filler episode has them being given a taste of what they're up against, so they train harder.
1st Mar '17 3:01:36 AM SuperMagneto
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* Goku and Chi-Chi's marriage is kinda disturbing. According to Akira, Goku only see his wife and his sons as his companions. Chi-Chi is possibly married to a guy who doesn't love her romantically. Goku only married her because of a promise he made. He does seem to care about her, but it seems more like a friendship type of love.

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* Goku and Chi-Chi's marriage is kinda disturbing.disturbing and depressing at the same time. According to Akira, Goku only see his wife and his sons as his companions. Chi-Chi is possibly married to a guy who doesn't love her romantically. Goku only married her because of a promise he made. He does seem to care about her, but it seems more like a friendship type of love.
28th Feb '17 9:02:53 AM SuperMagneto
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* According to Akira, Goku only see his wife and his sons as his companions, which is kinda disturbing. Chi-Chi is possibly married to a guy who doesn't love her romantically.

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* Goku and Chi-Chi's marriage is kinda disturbing. According to Akira, Goku only see his wife and his sons as his companions, which is kinda disturbing.companions. Chi-Chi is possibly married to a guy who doesn't love her romantically. Goku only married her because of a promise he made. He does seem to care about her, but it seems more like a friendship type of love.
28th Feb '17 8:56:25 AM SuperMagneto
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* According to Akira, Goku only see Chi-Chi and his sons as his companions, which is kinda disturbing. Chi-Chi is possibly married to a guy who doesn't love her romantically.

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* According to Akira, Goku only see Chi-Chi his wife and his sons as his companions, which is kinda disturbing. Chi-Chi is possibly married to a guy who doesn't love her romantically.
28th Feb '17 8:54:24 AM SuperMagneto
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* According to Akira, Goku only see ChiChi and his sons as his companions, which is kinda disturbing. ChiChi is pretty much friend-zoned by her own husband...ouch.

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* According to Akira, Goku only see ChiChi Chi-Chi and his sons as his companions, which is kinda disturbing. ChiChi Chi-Chi is pretty much friend-zoned by possibly married to a guy who doesn't love her own husband...ouch.romantically.
28th Feb '17 8:52:07 AM SuperMagneto
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* According to Akira, Goku only see ChiChi and his sons as his companions, which is kinda disturbing. ChiChi is pretty much friend-zoned by her own husband...ouch.
28th Feb '17 8:32:46 AM SuperMagneto
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* The character Beerus seems terrifying if you think about it. You have to walk on eggshells around this guy. If he dislikes an alien's food, his planet gets blown up.
18th Feb '17 2:30:47 PM EDP
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** There's one timeline where the only one stronger than Jaco left is Yajirobe, and he may not be around when he comes. Jaco is going to deal with the choice of [[ToBeLawfulOrGood arresting an old friend, that he respects enough he tried to get her to join the Patrol, or letting go a criminal who broke one of the most important laws while he can do something about that]].
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