History Fridge / DevilSurvivor

* Why does [[spoiler:Belial]] say at the end of Day 6 that [[spoiler:humans are more qualified for the throne of Bel than demons? Because humans invented something that can allow humanity to go toe-to-toe with demons.]]

* Why do [[spoiler: God and his Angels abandon]] the earth on Yuzu's 8th Day? [[spoiler: Because as [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney Lucifer]] said only he will never abandon us.]]
* Why does [[spoiler: Naoya]] suffer from RedemptionDemotion in Atsuro's route? Because he simply can't be arsed to fight [[spoiler: Babel]] for you. Why should he exert himself for a cause he's not particularly invested in?
* [[MagnificentBastard Lucifer, I read your book!]] Up to this point, his motivations have generally be described as ForTheEvulz and ItAmusedMe, but look closely at what Nebiros and Belzaboul (on Naoya's route, at least) say upon their defeat--both of them say something to the effect of "my master will be pleased." Combining that, on either Gin or Atsuro's route, Loki will imply that Lucifer will visit the human realm ([[BonusBoss and we know he does]]), despite his apparent lack of interest of the title of Bel. And finally, on Naoya's route (at least), Belberith hints at wanting to [[TheStarscream overthrow Lucifer]] once he becomes King of Bel. While this may seem like a stretch, it seems that [[spoiler:Abel]]'s involvement in the conflict was planned by Lucifer[[spoiler:, especially if what he says about being the main character's father are true]]: Worst case scenario, [[ItAmusedMe it'll at least be fun to watch]]. However, if [[spoiler:Abel]] wins the throne, he had someone that got rid of a potential usurper. Bonus points if he decides to rebel against God ([[MythologyGag anyone else remember Nocturne's True Demon Ending?]]). And hey, even if [[spoiler:Abel]] decides to be a lapdog of God's, all Lucier needs to do is wait for him to [[HumansAreFlawed screw up]]. [[XanatosGambit He stands to gain something regardless of the outcome]].
* The MC is [[spoiler:a reincarnation of [[CainandAbel Abel]]. In other words he's [[MeaningfulName a Bel]].]]

* Why does [[spoiler: Black Frost]] only follow you in two routes? Well if you take Naoya/Kaido's Route you are embracing your role as King of Bel and [[spoiler: he is a demon so he obeys you as his lord]] and you have proven to share his philosophy. Why does he follow you on Gin's Route even when you want to banish demons? Because you are working to protecting all of the humans of the world from demons. Thus he'll be willing to send all demons [[spoiler: including him]] home to protect the weak. However Atsuro's route plan despite allowing for peaceful coexisting doesn't. Because it would enslave all demons - worse still it oppresses the weak demons and doesn't even protect humans given they can still use them against other humans. Just fleeing wouldn't interest him in Yuzu's route and not only would he not be interested in serving God he wouldn't have him anyway!
* Naoya gets very angry with you if you choose to [[spoiler:forgive him]]. He also has [[spoiler:a longstanding grudge against God]]. Hmm, wasn't there something in [[spoiler: the Bible that [[{{Forgiveness}} that says what to do with someone that's wronged you]]]]?

* When you first revisit [[spoiler:Keisuke about 2 hours after he leaves your party]], you'll notice that he's gained some experience and new skills, including some most likely cracked from human adversaries. [[spoiler:And it turns out that given his later behavior, it's very likely he gained these by killing some people. So when Atsuro tells you not to let Keisuke become a murderer, you're probably already too late...]]
* More a meta-example rather than in-game. Let's just say you're a newly-wed couple. Then you finally have a child. Turns out the child is [[spoiler: a reincarnated killer with all the memories of four thousand years living in the world INTACT]]. Granted, you won't even know who exactly the child is, but seeing that he's more likely to be [[CreepyChild anti-social]] [[LonersAreFreaks yet earning perfect scores in every test would be]], well, unsettling...

* In a meta-example, the series is a {{Deconstruction}} of what would happen if STEVEN has succeeded in sending out Demon Summoning Programs in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTensei''. In that game, everything get cut short [[spoiler: when Thor nukes Tokyo]].

* [[MagnificentBastard Lucifer, I read your book!]] Up to this point, his motivations have generally be described as ForTheEvulz and ItAmusedMe, but look closely at what Nebiros and Belzaboul (on Naoya's route, at least) say upon their defeat--both of them say something to the effect of "my master will be pleased." Combining that, on either Gin or Atsuro's route, Loki will imply that Lucifer will visit the human realm ([[BonusBoss and we know he does]]), despite his apparent lack of interest of the title of Bel. And finally, on Naoya's route (at least), Belberith hints at wanting to [[TheStarscream overthrow Lucifer]] once he becomes King of Bel. While this may seem like a stretch, it seems that [[spoiler:Abel]]'s involvement in the conflict was planned by Lucifer[[spoiler:, especially if what he says about being the main character's father are true]]: Worst case scenario, [[ItAmusedMe it'll at least be fun to watch]]. However, if [[spoiler:Abel]] wins the throne, he had someone that got rid of a potential usurper. Bonus points if he decides to rebel against God ([[MythologyGag anyone else remember Nocturne's True Demon Ending?]]). And hey, even if [[spoiler:Abel]] decides to be a lapdog of God's, all Lucier needs to do is wait for him to [[HumansAreFlawed screw up]]. [[XanatosGambit he stands to gain something regardless of the outcome]].

* [[MagnificentBastard Lucifer, I read your book!]] Up to this point, his motivations have generally be described as ForTheEvulz and ItAmusedMe, but look closely at what Nebiros and Belzaboul (on Naoya's route, at least) say upon their defeat--both of them say something to the effect of "my master will be pleased." Combining that, on either Gin or Atsuro's route (I forget which, but I want to say Gin's), Loki will imply that Lucifer will visit the human realm ([[BonusBoss and we know he does]]), despite his apparent lack of interest of the title of Bel. And finally, on Naoya's route (at least), Belberith hints at wanting to [[TheStarscream overthrow Lucifer]] once he becomes King of Bel. While this may seem like a stretch, it seems to me that [[spoiler:Abel]]'s involvement in the conflict was planned by Lucifer[[spoiler:, especially if what he says about being the main character's father are true]]: Worst case scenario, [[ItAmusedMe it'll at least be fun to watch]]. However, if [[spoiler:Abel]] wins the throne, he had someone that got rid of a potential usurper. Bonus points if he decides to rebel against God ([[MythologyGag anyone else remember Nocturne's True Demon Ending?]]). And hey, even if [[spoiler:Abel]] decides to be a lapdog of God's, all Lucier needs to do is wait for him to [[HumansAreFlawed screw up]]. [[XanatosGambit he stands to gain something regardless of the outcome]].

** Why does [[spoiler:Belial]] say at the end of Day 6 that [[spoiler:humans are more qualified for the throne of Bel than demons? Because humans invented something that can allow humanity to go toe-to-toe with demons.]]
** Maybe something minor, but the name of the system that predicts the future is Laplace Mail. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplace%27s_demon A quick google search shows that Laplace is famous for his all-knowing demon thought experiment.]]
** Why do [[spoiler: God and his Angels abandon]] the earth on Yuzu's 8th Day? [[spoiler: Because as [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney Lucifer]] said only he will never abandon us.]]
** Why does [[spoiler: Naoya]] suffer from RedemptionDemotion in Atsuro's route? Because he simply can't be arsed to fight [[spoiler: Babel]] for you. Why should he exert himself for a cause he's not particularly invested in?
** [[MagnificentBastard Lucifer, I read your book!]] Up to this point, his motivations have generally be described as ForTheEvulz and ItAmusedMe, but look closely at what Nebiros and Belzaboul (on Naoya's route, at least) say upon their defeat--both of them say something to the effect of "my master will be pleased." Combining that, on either Gin or Atsuro's route (I forget which, but I want to say Gin's), Loki will imply that Lucifer will visit the human realm ([[BonusBoss and we know he does]]), despite his apparent lack of interest of the title of Bel. And finally, on Naoya's route (at least), Belberith hints at wanting to [[TheStarscream overthrow Lucifer]] once he becomes King of Bel. While this may seem like a stretch, it seems to me that [[spoiler:Abel]]'s involvement in the conflict was planned by Lucifer[[spoiler:, especially if what he says about being the main character's father are true]]: Worst case scenario, [[ItAmusedMe it'll at least be fun to watch]]. However, if [[spoiler:Abel]] wins the throne, he had someone that got rid of a potential usurper. Bonus points if he decides to rebel against God ([[MythologyGag anyone else remember Nocturne's True Demon Ending?]]). And hey, even if [[spoiler:Abel]] decides to be a lapdog of God's, all Lucier needs to do is wait for him to [[HumansAreFlawed screw up]]. [[XanatosGambit he stands to gain something regardless of the outcome]].
** The MC is [[spoiler:a reincarnation of [[CainandAbel Abel]]. In other words he's [[MeaningfulName a Bel]].]]
** The two worst endings, [[NonStandardGameOver the Early Bad Ending]] and [[DownerEnding Yuzu's]], are perfectly typical SMT Law and Chaos endings. In the Early Bad Ending, you escape the lockdown on day 6, causing the angels to kill everyone in the lockdown and remove free will. In Yuzu's ending, you escape the lockdown on day 7, causing demons and demon tamers to escape the lockdown and resulting in the world becoming a SocialDarwinist anarchy. However, these are accidental outcomes of your own stupidity, not your intentions.
** [[HumanityOnTrial God's Ordeal]] is apparently rigged. If you become King of Bel, then either humanity (represented by the MC, since this is a morality play) fails by accepting God's control, or fails by the rebelling against God (at which point God plans to take over regardless). But that's kind of the point: humanity can only remain free of God if they ScrewDestiny and TakeAThirdOption, proving that they have the ''wisdom'' to use their power responsibly.

* FridgeBrilliance: Why is Atsuro your strongest physical fighter initially, even though he's a scrawny hacker? He hacked his COMP!

* FridgeHorror: When you first revisit [[spoiler:Keisuke about 2 hours after he leaves your party]], you'll notice that he's gained some experience and new skills, including some most likely cracked from human adversaries. [[spoiler:And it turns out that given his later behavior, it's very likely he gained these by killing some people. So when Atsuro tells you not to let Keisuke become a murderer, you're probably already too late...]]

** Speaking of which, Naoya spent most of his "childhood" being raised with the protagonist after his parents died. Considering how focused he is on his "brother," it makes you wonder whether he had anything to do with that...
* Naoya gets very angry with you if you choose to [[spoiler:forgive him]]. He also has [[spoiler:a longstanding grudge against God]]. Hmm, wasn't there something in [[spoiler: the Bible that [[{{Forgiveness}} that says what to do with someone that's wronged you]]]]?

* Why does [[spoiler: Black Frost[[ only follow you in two routes? Well if you take Naoya/Kaido's Route you are embracing your role as King of Bel and he is a demon so he obeys you as his lord and you have proven to share his philosophy. Why does he follow you on Gin's Route even when you want to banish demons? Because you are are doing this working to protecting all of the humans of the world from demons. Thus he'll be willing to send all demons [[spoiler: including him]] home to protect the weak. However Atsuro's route plan despite allowing for peaceful coexisting doesn't. Because it would enslave all demons - worse still it oppresses the weak demons and doesn't even protect humans given they can still use them against other humans. Just fleeing wouldn't interest him in Yuzu's route and not only would he not be interested in serving God he wouldn't have him anyway!

** Why does [[spoiler: Black Frost[[ only follow you in two routes? Well if you take Naoya/Kaido's Route you are embracing your role as King of Bel and he is a demon so he obeys you as his lord and you have proven to share his philosophy. Why does he follow you on Gin's Route even when you want to banish demons? Because you are are doing this working to protecting all of the humans of the world from demons. Thus he'll be willing to send all demons [[spoiler: including him]] home to protect the weak. However Atsuro's route plan despite allowing for peaceful coexisting doesn't. Because it would enslave all demons - worse still it oppresses the weak demons and doesn't even protect humans given they can still use them against other humans. Just fleeing wouldn't interest him in Yuzu's route and not only would he not be interested in serving God he wouldn't have him anyway!

** Why does [[spoiler: God and his Angels abandon]] the earth on Yuzu's 8th Day? [[spoiler: Because as [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney Lucifer]] said only he will never abandon us.]]

** Maybe something minor, but the name of the system that predicts the future is Laplace Mail.[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplace%27s_demon A quick google search shows that Laplace is famous for his all-knowing demon thought experiment.]]

** Maybe something minor, but the name of the system that predicts the future is Laplace Mail. A quick google search shows that Laplace is famous for his all-knowing demon thought experiment. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplace%27s_demon]]

* In a meta-example, the series is a {{Deconstruction}} of what would happen if STEVEN has succeeded in sending out Demon Summoning Programs in ShinMegamiTensei1. In that game, everything get cut short [[spoiler: when Thor nukes Tokyo]].

** Speaking of which, Naoya spent most of his "childhood" being raised with the protagonist after his parents died. Considering how focused he is on his "brother," it makes you wonder whether he had anything to do with that...

* FridgeHorror: When you first revisit [[spoiler:Keisuke after he leaves your party]], you'll notice that he's gained some experience and new skills, including some most likely cracked from human adversaries. [[spoiler:And it turns out that given his later behavior, it's very likely he gained these by killing some people.]]

* More a meta-example rather than in-game. Let's just say you're a newly-wed couple. Then you finally have a child. Turns out the child is [[spoiler: a reincarnated killer with all the memories of four thousand years living in the world INTACT]]. Granted, you won't even know who exactly the child is, but seeing that he's more likely to be [[CreepyChild anti-social]] [[LonersAreFreaks yet earning perfect scores in every test would be]], well, unsettling...

** Why does [[spoiler: God and his Angels abandon]] the earth on Yuzu's 8th Day? [[spoiler: Because as [[StrangeJourney Lucifer]] said only he will never abandon us.]]

** [[MagnificentBastard Lucifer, I read your book!]] Up to this point, his motivations have generally be described as ForTheEvulz and ItAmusedMe, but look closely at what Nebiros and Belzaboul (on Naoya's route, at least) say upon their defeat--both of them say something to the effect of "my master will be pleased." Combining that, on either Gin or Atsuro's route (I forget which, but I want to say Gin's), Loki will imply that Lucifer will visit the human realm ([[BonusBoss and we know he does]]), despite his apparent lack of interest of the title of Bel. And finally, on Naoya's route (at least), Belberith hints at wanting to [[TheStarscream overthrow Lucifer]] once he becomes King of Bel. While this may seem like a stretch, it seems to me that [[spoiler:Abel]]'s involvement in the conflict was a XanatosGambit on Lucifer's part[[spoiler:, especially if what he says about being the main character's father are true]]: Worst case scenario, [[ItAmusedMe it'll at least be fun to watch]]. However, if [[spoiler:Abel]] wins the throne, he had someone that got rid of a potential usurper. Bonus points if he decides to rebel against God ([[MythologyGag anyone else remember Nocturne's True Demon Ending?]]). And hey, even if [[spoiler:Abel]] decides to be a lapdog of God's, all Lucier needs to do is wait for him to [[HumansAreFlawed screw up]].

** Why does [[spoiler: God and his Angels abandon]] the earth on Yuzu's 8th Day? [[spoiler: Because as Lucifer said, only Lucifer will never abandon us.]]

** Why does [[spoiler: God and his Angels abandon]] the earth on Yuzu's 8th Day? [[spoiler: Because as Lucifer said only Lucifer will never abandon us.]]

* More a meta-example rather than in-game. Let's just say you're a newly-wed couple. Then you finally have a child. Turns out the child is [[spoiler: a reincarnated killer with all the memories of four thousand years living in the world INTACT]]. Granted, you won't even know who exactly the child is, but seeing that he's more likely to be [[CreepyChild anti-social]] [[LonersAreFreaks yet earning perfect scores in every test would be]], well, [[UnderStatement unsettling]]...

* FridgeHorror: When you first revisit [[spoiler:Keisuke after he leaves your party]], you'll notice that he's gained some experience and new skills, including some most likely cracked from human adversaries. [[spoiler:And it turns out that given his later behavior, it's very likely he gained these by killing some people.]]

* FridgeBrilliance[=/=]FridgeHorror: When you first revisit [[spoiler:Keisuke after he leaves your party]], you'll notice that he's gained some experience and new skills, including some most likely cracked from human adversaries. [[spoiler:And it turns out that given his later behavior, it's very likely he gained these by killing some people.]]