History Fridge / DevilSurvivor

5th Sep '16 8:17:38 PM Ramidel
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** [[HumanityOnTrial God's Ordeal]] is apparently rigged. If you become King of Bel, then either humanity (represented by the MC, since this is a morality play) fails by accepting God's control, or fails by the rebelling against God (at which point God plans to take over regardless). But that's kind of the point: humanity can only remain free of God if they ScrewDestiny and TakeAThirdOption, proving that they have the ''wisdom'' to use their power responsibly.


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23rd Feb '16 10:42:48 PM infernape612
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* In a meta-example, the series is a {{Deconstruction}} of what would happen if STEVEN has succeeded in sending out Demon Summoning Programs in ShinMegamiTensei1. In that game, everything get cut short [[spoiler: when Thor nukes Tokyo]].

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** The two worst endings, [[NonStandardGameOver the Early Bad Ending]] and [[DownerEnding Yuzu's]], are perfectly typical SMT Law and Chaos endings. In the Early Bad Ending, you escape the lockdown on day 6, causing the angels to kill everyone in the lockdown and remove free will. In Yuzu's ending, you escape the lockdown on day 7, causing demons and demon tamers to escape the lockdown and resulting in the world becoming a SocialDarwinist anarchy. However, these are accidental outcomes of your own stupidity, not your intentions.
* In a meta-example, the series is a {{Deconstruction}} of what would happen if STEVEN has succeeded in sending out Demon Summoning Programs in ShinMegamiTensei1.''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTensei''. In that game, everything get cut short [[spoiler: when Thor nukes Tokyo]].
12th Oct '15 10:19:20 AM visceralflame
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**Maybe something minor, but the name of the system that predicts the future is Laplace Mail. A quick google search shows that Laplace is famous for his all-knowing demon thought experiment. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplace%27s_demon]]
8th Oct '15 2:08:17 PM SteelEdge
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* In a meta-example, the series is a {{Deconstruction}} of what would happen if STEVEN has succeeded in sending out Demon Summoning Programs in ShinMegamiTensei1. In that game, everything get cut short [[spoiler: when Thor nukes Tokyo]].
15th Nov '14 6:59:17 PM animenutcase
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** Speaking of which, Naoya spent most of his "childhood" being raised with the protagonist after his parents died. Considering how focused he is on his "brother," it makes you wonder whether he had anything to do with that...

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** Speaking of which, Naoya spent most of his "childhood" being raised with the protagonist after his parents died. Considering how focused he is on his "brother," it makes you wonder whether he had anything to do with that...that...
* Naoya gets very angry with you if you choose to [[spoiler:forgive him]]. He also has [[spoiler:a longstanding grudge against God]]. Hmm, wasn't there something in [[spoiler: the Bible that [[{{Forgiveness}} that says what to do with someone that's wronged you]]]]?
17th Feb '14 11:24:47 AM teatime
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** The MC is [[spoiler:a reincarnation of [[CainandAbel Abel]]. In other words he's [[MeaningfulName a Bel]].]]
29th Nov '13 9:44:06 AM Mysterion
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* FridgeHorror: When you first revisit [[spoiler:Keisuke after he leaves your party]], you'll notice that he's gained some experience and new skills, including some most likely cracked from human adversaries. [[spoiler:And it turns out that given his later behavior, it's very likely he gained these by killing some people.]]

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* FridgeHorror: When you first revisit [[spoiler:Keisuke about 2 hours after he leaves your party]], you'll notice that he's gained some experience and new skills, including some most likely cracked from human adversaries. [[spoiler:And it turns out that given his later behavior, it's very likely he gained these by killing some people. So when Atsuro tells you not to let Keisuke become a murderer, you're probably already too late...]]
29th Nov '13 9:41:35 AM Mysterion
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* More a meta-example rather than in-game. Let's just say you're a newly-wed couple. Then you finally have a child. Turns out the child is [[spoiler: a reincarnated killer with all the memories of four thousand years living in the world INTACT]]. Granted, you won't even know who exactly the child is, but seeing that he's more likely to be [[CreepyChild anti-social]] [[LonersAreFreaks yet earning perfect scores in every test would be]], well, unsettling...

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* More a meta-example rather than in-game. Let's just say you're a newly-wed couple. Then you finally have a child. Turns out the child is [[spoiler: a reincarnated killer with all the memories of four thousand years living in the world INTACT]]. Granted, you won't even know who exactly the child is, but seeing that he's more likely to be [[CreepyChild anti-social]] [[LonersAreFreaks yet earning perfect scores in every test would be]], well, unsettling...unsettling...
**Speaking of which, Naoya spent most of his "childhood" being raised with the protagonist after his parents died. Considering how focused he is on his "brother," it makes you wonder whether he had anything to do with that...
15th Nov '13 12:43:26 PM EarlOfSandvich
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** Why does [[spoiler: God and his Angels abandon]] the earth on Yuzu's 8th Day? [[spoiler: Because as [[StrangeJourney Lucifer]] said only he will never abandon us.]]

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** Why does [[spoiler: God and his Angels abandon]] the earth on Yuzu's 8th Day? [[spoiler: Because as [[StrangeJourney [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney Lucifer]] said only he will never abandon us.]]
16th Jun '12 8:52:27 PM ChaoticNovelist
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** [[MagnificentBastard Lucifer, I read your book!]] Up to this point, his motivations have generally be described as ForTheEvulz and ItAmusedMe, but look closely at what Nebiros and Belzaboul (on Naoya's route, at least) say upon their defeat--both of them say something to the effect of "my master will be pleased." Combining that, on either Gin or Atsuro's route (I forget which, but I want to say Gin's), Loki will imply that Lucifer will visit the human realm ([[BonusBoss and we know he does]]), despite his apparent lack of interest of the title of Bel. And finally, on Naoya's route (at least), Belberith hints at wanting to [[TheStarscream overthrow Lucifer]] once he becomes King of Bel. While this may seem like a stretch, it seems to me that [[spoiler:Abel]]'s involvement in the conflict was a XanatosGambit on Lucifer's part[[spoiler:, especially if what he says about being the main character's father are true]]: Worst case scenario, [[ItAmusedMe it'll at least be fun to watch]]. However, if [[spoiler:Abel]] wins the throne, he had someone that got rid of a potential usurper. Bonus points if he decides to rebel against God ([[MythologyGag anyone else remember Nocturne's True Demon Ending?]]). And hey, even if [[spoiler:Abel]] decides to be a lapdog of God's, all Lucier needs to do is wait for him to [[HumansAreFlawed screw up]].

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** [[MagnificentBastard Lucifer, I read your book!]] Up to this point, his motivations have generally be described as ForTheEvulz and ItAmusedMe, but look closely at what Nebiros and Belzaboul (on Naoya's route, at least) say upon their defeat--both of them say something to the effect of "my master will be pleased." Combining that, on either Gin or Atsuro's route (I forget which, but I want to say Gin's), Loki will imply that Lucifer will visit the human realm ([[BonusBoss and we know he does]]), despite his apparent lack of interest of the title of Bel. And finally, on Naoya's route (at least), Belberith hints at wanting to [[TheStarscream overthrow Lucifer]] once he becomes King of Bel. While this may seem like a stretch, it seems to me that [[spoiler:Abel]]'s involvement in the conflict was a XanatosGambit on Lucifer's part[[spoiler:, planned by Lucifer[[spoiler:, especially if what he says about being the main character's father are true]]: Worst case scenario, [[ItAmusedMe it'll at least be fun to watch]]. However, if [[spoiler:Abel]] wins the throne, he had someone that got rid of a potential usurper. Bonus points if he decides to rebel against God ([[MythologyGag anyone else remember Nocturne's True Demon Ending?]]). And hey, even if [[spoiler:Abel]] decides to be a lapdog of God's, all Lucier needs to do is wait for him to [[HumansAreFlawed screw up]]. [[XanatosGambit he stands to gain something regardless of the outcome]].
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