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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:the God that Saint Urbain and his followers had been worshipping all this time was false; they've been unknowingly worshipping the Old One, rather than "God". Also, because they were using Soul Arts, which were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably ''not'' go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]
** As we see, the souls of the dead just sit there until either the character finds and uses them or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half-living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if, or when, he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: [[spoiler:when the player beats the game and chooses to let the Old One go back to sleep, they become a Monumental themselves, which means that [[DownerEnding the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One...until the player dies.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns themselves to a fate worse than death for the sake of an unbelievably CrapsackWorld, or to become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Decisions, decisions. Though, the language used in the former ending implies that you'll be a more active version of a Monumental, so it's wholly possible that you got the better deal there.]] But that also makes you wonder; how powerful is the Old Ones that, without the Maiden in Black to help them, the Monumentals had to give up ''so much'' just to stop it??
** Also, one of the game developer's main focus was to give the player a feeling of accomplishment. In this case, [[spoiler:the satisfaction of either being the world's most powerful and evil king, or putting an end to the demon threat once and for all.]] There's no way to know for sure, unless there's a sequel--and knowing From Software, that's not likely, not to mention [[AmbiguousEnding not the point]].

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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:the God that Saint Urbain and his followers had been worshipping all this time was false; they've been unknowingly worshipping the Old One, rather than "God". Also, because they were using Soul Arts, which were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably ''not'' go to Heaven when they die, die or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]
** As we see, the souls of the dead just sit there until either the character finds and uses them them, or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half-living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if, or when, he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: [[spoiler:when the player beats the game and chooses to let the Old One go back to sleep, they become a Monumental themselves, which means that [[DownerEnding the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One...until the player dies.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns themselves to a fate worse than death for the sake of an unbelievably CrapsackWorld, or to become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Decisions, decisions. Though, the language used in the former ending implies that you'll be a more active version of a Monumental, so it's wholly possible that you got the better deal there.]] But that also makes you wonder; how powerful is the Old Ones that, without the Maiden in Black to help them, the Monumentals had to give up ''so much'' just to stop it??
** Also, one of the game developer's main focus focuses was to give the player a feeling of accomplishment. In this case, [[spoiler:the satisfaction of either being the world's most powerful and evil king, king or putting an end to the demon threat once and for all.]] There's no way to know for sure, unless there's a sequel--and knowing From Software, that's not likely, not to mention [[AmbiguousEnding not the point]].



* Phalanx is the corrupted form of Long Bow Oolan, and is guarded by blobs with shields (her legions). The Tower Knight is the corrupted form of Alfred the shield knight of the tower, and is aided by enemies shooting arrows.

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* Phalanx is the corrupted form of Long Bow Oolan, and is guarded by blobs with shields (her legions). The Tower Knight is the corrupted form of Alfred the shield knight of the tower, tower and is aided by enemies shooting arrows.



* The late-game revelation [[spoiler:that sorcery and miracles are two sides of the same coin]] is foreshadowed by their representatives' clothing. The clothes Freke and Saint Urbain wear are [[spoiler:the same robes with a different color scheme.]]

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* The late-game revelation [[spoiler:that sorcery and miracles are two sides of the same coin]] is foreshadowed by their representatives' clothing. The clothes Freke and Saint Urbain wear are [[spoiler:the same robes with a different color scheme.]]]] This was muddied a bit in the 2020 remake, with [[spoiler:the sets having more differing designs]].
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** Also, one of the game developer's main focus was to give the player a feeling of accomplishment. In this case, [[spoiler:the satisfaction of either being the world's most powerful and evil king, or putting an end to the demon threat once and for all.]] There's no way to know for sure, unless there's a sequel--and knowing From Software, [[RealityEnsues that's not likely]], not to mention [[AmbiguousEnding not the point]].

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** Also, one of the game developer's main focus was to give the player a feeling of accomplishment. In this case, [[spoiler:the satisfaction of either being the world's most powerful and evil king, or putting an end to the demon threat once and for all.]] There's no way to know for sure, unless there's a sequel--and knowing From Software, [[RealityEnsues that's not likely]], likely, not to mention [[AmbiguousEnding not the point]].
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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:the God that Saint Urbain and his followers had been worshipping all this time was false; they've been unknowingly worshipping the Old One, rather than "God". Also, because that they were using Soul Arts, which were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably ''not'' go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]

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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:the God that Saint Urbain and his followers had been worshipping all this time was false; they've been unknowingly worshipping the Old One, rather than "God". Also, because that they were using Soul Arts, which were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably ''not'' go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]
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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:the God that Saint Urban and his followers had been worshipping all this time was false; they've been unknowingly worshipping the Old One, rather than "God". Also, because that they were using Soul Arts, which were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably ''not'' go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]

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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:the God that Saint Urban Urbain and his followers had been worshipping all this time was false; they've been unknowingly worshipping the Old One, rather than "God". Also, because that they were using Soul Arts, which were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably ''not'' go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]
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** As we see, the souls of the dead just sit there until either the character finds and uses them or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half-living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if, or when, he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: [[spoiler:when the player beats the game and chooses to let the Old One go back to sleep, they become a Monumental themselves, which means that [[DownerEnding the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One...until the player dies.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns themselves to a fate worse than death for the sake of an unbelievably CrapsackWorld, or to become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Decisions, decisions. Though, the language used in the former ending implies that [[spoiler: you'll be a more active version of a Monumental, so it's wholly possible that you got the better deal there.]] But that also makes you wonder; how powerful is the Old Ones that, without the Maiden in Black to help them, the Monumentals had to give up ''so much'' just to stop it??

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** As we see, the souls of the dead just sit there until either the character finds and uses them or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half-living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if, or when, he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: [[spoiler:when the player beats the game and chooses to let the Old One go back to sleep, they become a Monumental themselves, which means that [[DownerEnding the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One...until the player dies.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns themselves to a fate worse than death for the sake of an unbelievably CrapsackWorld, or to become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Decisions, decisions. Though, the language used in the former ending implies that [[spoiler: you'll be a more active version of a Monumental, so it's wholly possible that you got the better deal there.]] But that also makes you wonder; how powerful is the Old Ones that, without the Maiden in Black to help them, the Monumentals had to give up ''so much'' just to stop it??
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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:the God that Saint Urban and his followers had been worshipping all this time was false; they've been unknowingly worshipping the Old One, rather than God. Also, because that they were using Soul Arts, which were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably ''not'' go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]

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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:the God that Saint Urban and his followers had been worshipping all this time was false; they've been unknowingly worshipping the Old One, rather than God."God". Also, because that they were using Soul Arts, which were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably ''not'' go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]
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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:the God that Saint Urban and his followers had been worshipping all this time was false; they've been unknowingly worshipping the Old One, rather than "God". Also, because that they were using Soul Arts, which were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably ''not'' go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]

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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:the God that Saint Urban and his followers had been worshipping all this time was false; they've been unknowingly worshipping the Old One, rather than "God".God. Also, because that they were using Soul Arts, which were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably ''not'' go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]

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** As we see, the souls of the dead just sit there until either the character finds and uses them or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half-living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if, or when, he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: [[spoiler:when the player beats the game and chooses to let the Old One go back to sleep, they become a Monumental themselves, which means that [[DownerEnding the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One...until the player dies.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns themselves to a fate worse than death for the sake of an unbelievably CrapsackWorld, or to become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Decisions, decisions.]]

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** As we see, the souls of the dead just sit there until either the character finds and uses them or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half-living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if, or when, he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: [[spoiler:when the player beats the game and chooses to let the Old One go back to sleep, they become a Monumental themselves, which means that [[DownerEnding the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One...until the player dies.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns themselves to a fate worse than death for the sake of an unbelievably CrapsackWorld, or to become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Decisions, decisions.]] Though, the language used in the former ending implies that [[spoiler: you'll be a more active version of a Monumental, so it's wholly possible that you got the better deal there.]] But that also makes you wonder; how powerful is the Old Ones that, without the Maiden in Black to help them, the Monumentals had to give up ''so much'' just to stop it??


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*The Maiden in Black [[spoiler: is stated to have once been one of the most powerful demons. Did she use to be evil? If so, how much devastation did she wreak before turning good??]]
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** Also, one of the game developer's main focus was to give the player a feeling of accomplishment. In this case, [[spoiler:the satisfaction of either being the world's most powerful and evil king, or putting an end to the demon threat once and for all.]] There's no way to know for sure, unless there's a sequel--and knowing From Software, [[RealityEnsues that's not likely]], not to mention [[{{Ambiguity}} not the point]].

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** Also, one of the game developer's main focus was to give the player a feeling of accomplishment. In this case, [[spoiler:the satisfaction of either being the world's most powerful and evil king, or putting an end to the demon threat once and for all.]] There's no way to know for sure, unless there's a sequel--and knowing From Software, [[RealityEnsues that's not likely]], not to mention [[{{Ambiguity}} [[AmbiguousEnding not the point]].
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* The weapon you get from Long Bow Oolan's black phantom form in 1-4 is a bow only otherwise found in the Shrine of Storms: the White Bow. So what was she doing in Boletaria? Reading the description of the Adjudicator's Shield states that cowardly acts were cause for the Adjudicator to eat you, so it's no wonder an archer who hid behind flunkies tried to get as far from her homeland as possible!

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* The weapon you get from Long Bow Oolan's black phantom form in 1-4 is a bow only otherwise found in the Shrine of Storms: the White Bow. So what was she doing in Boletaria? Reading the description of the Adjudicator's Shield states that cowardly acts were cause for the Adjudicator to eat you, so ''eat'' you. So it's no wonder an archer who hid behind flunkies tried to get as far from her homeland as possible!

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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:the god that Saint Urban and his followers had been worshipping all this time was false, and is really the Old One, rather than the true God. Also, because that they were using Soul Arts, which were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably not go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]
** As we see, the souls of the dead just sit there until either the character finds and uses them or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half-living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if, or when, he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: [[spoiler:when the player beats the game and gets the good ending, they become a Monumental themselves, which means that [[DownerEnding the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One... until the player dies.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns themselves to a fate worse than death for the sake of an unbelievably CrapsackWorld, or to become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Decisions, decisions.]]
** Also, one of the game developer's main focus was to give the player a feeling of accomplishment. In this case, [[spoiler: the satisfaction of either being the world's most powerful and evil king, or putting an end to the demon threat once and for all.]] There's no way to know for sure unless there's a sequel.

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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:the god God that Saint Urban and his followers had been worshipping all this time was false, and is really false; they've been unknowingly worshipping the Old One, rather than the true God. "God". Also, because that they were using Soul Arts, which were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably not ''not'' go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]
** As we see, the souls of the dead just sit there until either the character finds and uses them or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half-living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if, or when, he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: [[spoiler:when the player beats the game and gets chooses to let the good ending, Old One go back to sleep, they become a Monumental themselves, which means that [[DownerEnding the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One... One...until the player dies.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns themselves to a fate worse than death for the sake of an unbelievably CrapsackWorld, or to become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Decisions, decisions.]]
** Also, one of the game developer's main focus was to give the player a feeling of accomplishment. In this case, [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the satisfaction of either being the world's most powerful and evil king, or putting an end to the demon threat once and for all.]] There's no way to know for sure sure, unless there's a sequel.
sequel--and knowing From Software, [[RealityEnsues that's not likely]], not to mention [[{{Ambiguity}} not the point]].



* Phalanx is the corrupted form of Long Bow Oolan and is guarded by blobs with shields. Tower Knight is the corrupted form of the shield wielding knight of the tower and is aided by enemies shooting arrows.
* The weapon you get from Long Bow Oolan's black phantom form in 1-4 is a bow only otherwise found in the Shrine of Storms, the White Bow. So what was she doing in Boletaria? Reading the description of the Adjudicator's Shield states that cowardly acts were cause for the Adjudicator to eat you, so it's no wonder an archer who hid behind flunkies tried to get as far from her homeland as possible!
* Two of the game's areas, the Tower of Latria and the Valley of Defilement, are set in [[AlwaysNight a perpetual night]]. Both are considered the hardest stages in game due to their respective layouts and enemy types. The former is a complicated setup of towers and prisons suspended high up in the air. Falling is easy, and there are plenty of enemies who can either fly above you or paralyze you, then kill you in one hit. The latter is in a toxic swamp where mobility is heavily hampered, you can get poisoned easily, and most of the enemies there move as fast as you and aren't impeded by the water like you are; furthermore, the strongest enemies can kill you with a love tap. These areas also have extremely difficult bosses. But when you think about it, that's probably why you only ever go there during the night in the first place: in daytime, both you AND your enemies have a clear line of sight. Without the cover of darkness lowering visibility for everyone, you'd probably get mobbed before you even have time to explore the area.
* The late game revelation [[spoiler: that sorcery and miracles are two sides of the same coin]] is foreshadowed by their representatives' clothing. The clothes Freke and Saint Urbain wear are [[spoiler:the same robes with a different color scheme.]]

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* Phalanx is the corrupted form of Long Bow Oolan Oolan, and is guarded by blobs with shields. shields (her legions). The Tower Knight is the corrupted form of Alfred the shield wielding knight of the tower tower, and is aided by enemies shooting arrows.
* The weapon you get from Long Bow Oolan's black phantom form in 1-4 is a bow only otherwise found in the Shrine of Storms, Storms: the White Bow. So what was she doing in Boletaria? Reading the description of the Adjudicator's Shield states that cowardly acts were cause for the Adjudicator to eat you, so it's no wonder an archer who hid behind flunkies tried to get as far from her homeland as possible!
* Two of the game's areas, the Tower of Latria and the Valley of Defilement, are set in [[AlwaysNight a perpetual night]]. Both are considered the hardest stages in game due to their respective layouts and enemy types. The former is a complicated setup of towers and prisons suspended high up in the air. Falling is easy, and there are plenty of enemies who can either fly above you or paralyze you, then kill you in one hit. The latter is in a toxic swamp where mobility is heavily hampered, you can get poisoned easily, and most of the enemies there move as fast as you and aren't impeded by the water like you are; furthermore, the strongest enemies can kill you with [[CherryTapping a love tap.tap]]. These areas also have extremely difficult bosses. But when you think about it, that's probably why ''why'' you only ever go there during the night in the first place: in daytime, both you AND your enemies have a clear line of sight. Without the cover of darkness lowering visibility for everyone, you'd probably get mobbed before you even have time to explore the area.
* The late game late-game revelation [[spoiler: that [[spoiler:that sorcery and miracles are two sides of the same coin]] is foreshadowed by their representatives' clothing. The clothes Freke and Saint Urbain wear are [[spoiler:the same robes with a different color scheme.]]]]
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** As we see, the souls of the dead just sit there until either the character finds and uses them or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half-living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if, or when, he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: when the player beats the game and gets the good ending, they become a Monumental themselves, which means that [[DownerEnding the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One... until the player dies.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns themselves to a fate worse than death for the sake of an unbelievably CrapsackWorld, or to become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Decisions, decisions.]]

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** As we see, the souls of the dead just sit there until either the character finds and uses them or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half-living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if, or when, he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: when [[spoiler:when the player beats the game and gets the good ending, they become a Monumental themselves, which means that [[DownerEnding the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One... until the player dies.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns themselves to a fate worse than death for the sake of an unbelievably CrapsackWorld, or to become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Decisions, decisions.]]
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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:the god that Saint Urban and his followers had been worshipping all this time is false, and is really the Old One, rather than the true God. Also, because that they were using Soul Arts that were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably not go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]

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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:the god that Saint Urban and his followers had been worshipping all this time is was false, and is really the Old One, rather than the true God. Also, because that they were using Soul Arts that Arts, which were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably not go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]
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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:the god that Saint Urban and his followers worshipping all this time is false, and is really the Old One, rather than the true God. Also, because that they were using Soul Arts that were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably not go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]

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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:the god that Saint Urban and his followers had been worshipping all this time is false, and is really the Old One, rather than the true God. Also, because that they were using Soul Arts that were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably not go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]
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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:since the god that Saint Urban and his followers worship is false, the Old One, rather than the true God, and that they were using Soul Arts that were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably not go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]

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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:since the [[spoiler:the god that Saint Urban and his followers worship worshipping all this time is false, and is really the Old One, rather than the true God, and God. Also, because that they were using Soul Arts that were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably not go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]
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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, [[spoiler:since the god that Saint Urban and his followers worship is false, the Old One, rather than the true God, and that they were using Soul Arts that were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably not go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]

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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, turns out, [[spoiler:since the god that Saint Urban and his followers worship is false, the Old One, rather than the true God, and that they were using Soul Arts that were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably not go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]
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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, [[spoiler:since the god that Saint Urban and his followers worship is false, the Old One, rather than the true God, and that they were Soul Arts that were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably not go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]

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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, [[spoiler:since the god that Saint Urban and his followers worship is false, the Old One, rather than the true God, and that they were using Soul Arts that were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably not go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.]]
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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, [[spoiler:since the god that Saint Urban and his followers worship is false, the Old One, rather than the true God, and that they were Soul Arts that were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably not go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever.

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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, [[spoiler:since the god that Saint Urban and his followers worship is false, the Old One, rather than the true God, and that they were Soul Arts that were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably not go to Heaven when they die, or will simply be condemned to remain in Boletaria forever. ]]
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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, [[spoiler:since the God that Saint Urban and his followers worship is false, the Old One, that means that they will probably not go to Heaven when they die in Boletaria, or will simply be condemned to remain forever. As we see, the souls of the dead just sit there until either the character finds and uses them or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half-living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if, or when, he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: when the player beats the game and gets the good ending, they become a Monumental themselves, which means that [[DownerEnding the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One... until the player dies.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns themselves to a fate worse than death for the sake of an unbelievably CrapsackWorld, or to become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Decisions, decisions.]]

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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, [[spoiler:since the God god that Saint Urban and his followers worship is false, the Old One, rather than the true God, and that they were Soul Arts that were simply powerful magic spells dressed up to look like miracles, that means that they will probably not go to Heaven when they die in Boletaria, die, or will simply be condemned to remain forever. As in Boletaria forever.
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we see, the souls of the dead just sit there until either the character finds and uses them or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half-living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if, or when, he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: when the player beats the game and gets the good ending, they become a Monumental themselves, which means that [[DownerEnding the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One... until the player dies.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns themselves to a fate worse than death for the sake of an unbelievably CrapsackWorld, or to become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Decisions, decisions.]]
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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, [[spoiler:since the God that Saint Urban and his followers worship is false, the Old One, that means that they will probably not go to Heaven when they die in Boletaria, or will simply be condemned to remain forever. As we see, the souls of the dead just sit there until either the character finds and uses them or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half-living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if, or when, he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: when the player beats the game and gets the good ending, they become a Monumental themselves, which means that [[DownerEnding the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One... until the player dies.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns themselves to a fate worse than death for the sake of an unbelievably CrapsackWorld or to become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Decisions, decisions.]]

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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, [[spoiler:since the God that Saint Urban and his followers worship is false, the Old One, that means that they will probably not go to Heaven when they die in Boletaria, or will simply be condemned to remain forever. As we see, the souls of the dead just sit there until either the character finds and uses them or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half-living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if, or when, he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: when the player beats the game and gets the good ending, they become a Monumental themselves, which means that [[DownerEnding the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One... until the player dies.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns themselves to a fate worse than death for the sake of an unbelievably CrapsackWorld CrapsackWorld, or to become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Decisions, decisions.]]
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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, [[spoiler:since there is no God, only the Old One, that means that there's no afterlife in Boletaria. As we see, the souls of the dead just sit there until either the character finds and uses them or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half-living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if, or when, he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: when the player beats the game and gets the good ending, they become a Monumental themselves, which means that [[DownerEnding the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One... until the player dies.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns themselves to a fate worse than death for the sake of an unbelievably CrapsackWorld or to become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Decisions, decisions.]]

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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example, [[spoiler:since there the God that Saint Urban and his followers worship is no God, only false, the Old One, that means that there's no afterlife they will probably not go to Heaven when they die in Boletaria.Boletaria, or will simply be condemned to remain forever. As we see, the souls of the dead just sit there until either the character finds and uses them or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half-living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if, or when, he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: when the player beats the game and gets the good ending, they become a Monumental themselves, which means that [[DownerEnding the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One... until the player dies.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns themselves to a fate worse than death for the sake of an unbelievably CrapsackWorld or to become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Decisions, decisions.]]
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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example [[spoiler:since there is no God, only the Old One, that means that there's no afterlife in Boletaria, and as we see, the souls of the people who are killed just sit there until either the character finds and uses them, or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if or when he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: [[DownerEnding when the player beats the game and gets the good ending, they become a monumental themselves, which means that the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One, only up until the player dies like the previous monumentals did.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns himself to a fate worse than death for the sake an unbelievably CrapsackWorld, or become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Hmmmm, decisions, decisions...]]

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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example example, [[spoiler:since there is no God, only the Old One, that means that there's no afterlife in Boletaria, and as Boletaria. As we see, the souls of the people who are killed dead just sit there until either the character finds and uses them, them or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half living half-living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if if, or when when, he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: [[DownerEnding when the player beats the game and gets the good ending, they become a monumental Monumental themselves, which means that [[DownerEnding the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One, only up One... until the player dies like the previous monumentals did.dies.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns himself themselves to a fate worse than death for the sake of an unbelievably CrapsackWorld, CrapsackWorld or to become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Hmmmm, decisions, decisions...Decisions, decisions.]]



* Phalanx is the corrupted form of Long Bow Oolan, and is guarded by blobs with shields. Tower Knight is the corrupted form of the shield wielding knight of the tower, and is aided by enemies shooting arrows.

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* Phalanx is the corrupted form of Long Bow Oolan, Oolan and is guarded by blobs with shields. Tower Knight is the corrupted form of the shield wielding knight of the tower, tower and is aided by enemies shooting arrows.



* 2 of the game's Areas, the Tower of Latria, and Valley of Defilement, are stages that are always in a state of night time. Both are considered the hardest stages in game due to their respective layouts and enemy types (The former is a complicated setup of towers and prisons suspended high up in the air, where falling is easy, and there are plenty of enemies who can either fly above you or paralyze you then kill you in one hit, the latter in a toxic swamp where mobility is heavily hampered, you can get poisoned easily, and most of the enemies there move as fast as you and aren't impeded by the water like you are, while the giant defiled ones do all this and can usually kill you with a love tap), not to mention their difficult bosses. But when you think about it, that's probably why you only ever go there during the night time in the first place: imagine going to both of these locations during the day, where both you AND your enemies have a clear line of sight. Without the cover of darkness lowering visibility for everyone, you'd probably get mobbed before you even have time to explore the area, since a lot of the enemies are placed in such a way that they could bum rush you the moment they see you.
* The late game revelation [[spoiler: (that sorcery and miracles are the two sides of the same coin)]] is foreshadowed by the clothing of their representatives. The clothes Freke and Saint Urbain wear are [[spoiler: the same robes with a different color scheme.]]

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* 2 Two of the game's Areas, areas, the Tower of Latria, Latria and the Valley of Defilement, are stages that are always set in [[AlwaysNight a state of night time. perpetual night]]. Both are considered the hardest stages in game due to their respective layouts and enemy types (The types. The former is a complicated setup of towers and prisons suspended high up in the air, where falling air. Falling is easy, and there are plenty of enemies who can either fly above you or paralyze you you, then kill you in one hit, the hit. The latter is in a toxic swamp where mobility is heavily hampered, you can get poisoned easily, and most of the enemies there move as fast as you and aren't impeded by the water like you are, while are; furthermore, the giant defiled ones do all this and strongest enemies can usually kill you with a love tap), not to mention their tap. These areas also have extremely difficult bosses. But when you think about it, that's probably why you only ever go there during the night time in the first place: imagine going to both of these locations during the day, where in daytime, both you AND your enemies have a clear line of sight. Without the cover of darkness lowering visibility for everyone, you'd probably get mobbed before you even have time to explore the area, since a lot of the enemies are placed in such a way that they could bum rush you the moment they see you.
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* The late game revelation [[spoiler: (that that sorcery and miracles are the two sides of the same coin)]] coin]] is foreshadowed by the clothing of their representatives. representatives' clothing. The clothes Freke and Saint Urbain wear are [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the same robes with a different color scheme.]]
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* 2 of the game's Ares, the Tower of Latria, and Valley of Defilement, are stages that are always in a state of night time. Both are considered the hardest stages in game due to their respective layouts and enemy types (The former is a complicated setup of towers and prisons suspended high up in the air, where falling is easy, and there are plenty of enemies wqho can either fly above you or paralyze you then kill you in one hit, the latter in a toxic swamp where mobility is heavily hampered, you can get poisoned easily, and most of the enemies there move as fast as you and aren't impeded by the water like you are, while the giant defiled ones do all this and can usually kill you with a love tap), not to mention their difficult bosses. But when you think about it, that's probably why you only ever go there during the night time in the first place: imagine going to both of these locations during the day, where both you AND your enemies have a clear line of sight. Without the cover of darkness lowering visibility for everyone, you'd probably get mobbed before you even have time to explore the area, since a lot of the enemies are placed in such a way that they could bum rush you the moment they see you.

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* 2 of the game's Ares, Areas, the Tower of Latria, and Valley of Defilement, are stages that are always in a state of night time. Both are considered the hardest stages in game due to their respective layouts and enemy types (The former is a complicated setup of towers and prisons suspended high up in the air, where falling is easy, and there are plenty of enemies wqho who can either fly above you or paralyze you then kill you in one hit, the latter in a toxic swamp where mobility is heavily hampered, you can get poisoned easily, and most of the enemies there move as fast as you and aren't impeded by the water like you are, while the giant defiled ones do all this and can usually kill you with a love tap), not to mention their difficult bosses. But when you think about it, that's probably why you only ever go there during the night time in the first place: imagine going to both of these locations during the day, where both you AND your enemies have a clear line of sight. Without the cover of darkness lowering visibility for everyone, you'd probably get mobbed before you even have time to explore the area, since a lot of the enemies are placed in such a way that they could bum rush you the moment they see you.
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* 2 of the game's Ares, the Tower of Latria, and Valley of Defilement, are stages that are always in a state of night time. Both are considered the hardest stages in game due to their respective layouts and enemy types (The former is a complicated setup of towers and prisons suspended high up in the air, where falling is easy, and there are plenty of enemies wqho can either fly above you or paralyze you then kill you in one hit, the latter in a toxic swamp where mobility is heavily hampered, you can get poisoned easily, and most of the enemies there move as fast as you and aren't impeded by the water like you are, while the giant defiled ones do all this and can usually kill you with a love tap), not to mention their difficult bosses. But when you think about it, that's probably why you only ever go there during the night time in the first place: imagine going to both of these locations during the day, where both you AND your enemies have a clear line of sight. Without the cover of darkness lowering visibility for everyone, you'd probably get mobbed before you even have time to explore the area, since a lot of the enemies are placed in such a way that they could bum rush you the moment they see you.
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** Also, one of the game developer's main focus was to give the player a feeling of accomplishment. In this case, [[spoiler: the satisfaction of either being the world's most powerful and evil king, or putting an end to the demon threat once and for all.]] There's no way to know for sure unless there's a sequel. [[link:

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** Also, one of the game developer's main focus was to give the player a feeling of accomplishment. In this case, [[spoiler: the satisfaction of either being the world's most powerful and evil king, or putting an end to the demon threat once and for all.]] There's no way to know for sure unless there's a sequel. [[link:
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** Also, one of the game developer's main focus was to give the player a feeling of accomplishment. In this case, [[spoiler: the satisfaction of either being the world's most powerful and evil king, or putting an end to the demon threat once and for all.]] There's no way to know for sure unless there's a sequel.

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** Also, one of the game developer's main focus was to give the player a feeling of accomplishment. In this case, [[spoiler: the satisfaction of either being the world's most powerful and evil king, or putting an end to the demon threat once and for all.]] There's no way to know for sure unless there's a sequel.
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* The weapon you get from Long Bow Oolan's black phantom form in 1-4 is a bow only otherwise found in the Shrine of Storms, the White Bow. So what was she doing in Boletaria? Reading the description of the Adjudicator's Shield states that cowardly acts were cause for the Adjudicator to eat you, so it's no wonder an archer who hid behind flunkies tried to get as far from her homeland as possible!

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* The weapon you get from Long Bow Oolan's black phantom form in 1-4 is a bow only otherwise found in the Shrine of Storms, the White Bow. So what was she doing in Boletaria? Reading the description of the Adjudicator's Shield states that cowardly acts were cause for the Adjudicator to eat you, so it's no wonder an archer who hid behind flunkies tried to get as far from her homeland as possible!possible!
* The late game revelation [[spoiler: (that sorcery and miracles are the two sides of the same coin)]] is foreshadowed by the clothing of their representatives. The clothes Freke and Saint Urbain wear are [[spoiler: the same robes with a different color scheme.]]
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* Phalanx is the corrupted form of Long Bow Oolan, and is guarded by blobs with shields. Tower Knight is the corrupted form of the shield wielding knight of the tower, and is aided by enemies shooting arrows.

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* Phalanx is the corrupted form of Long Bow Oolan, and is guarded by blobs with shields. Tower Knight is the corrupted form of the shield wielding knight of the tower, and is aided by enemies shooting arrows.arrows.
* The weapon you get from Long Bow Oolan's black phantom form in 1-4 is a bow only otherwise found in the Shrine of Storms, the White Bow. So what was she doing in Boletaria? Reading the description of the Adjudicator's Shield states that cowardly acts were cause for the Adjudicator to eat you, so it's no wonder an archer who hid behind flunkies tried to get as far from her homeland as possible!
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** Also, one of the game developer's main focus was to give the player a feeling of accomplishment. In this case, [[spoiler: the satisfaction of either being the world's most powerful and evil king, or putting an end to the demon threat once and for all.]] There's no way to know for sure unless there's a sequel.

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** Also, one of the game developer's main focus was to give the player a feeling of accomplishment. In this case, [[spoiler: the satisfaction of either being the world's most powerful and evil king, or putting an end to the demon threat once and for all.]] There's no way to know for sure unless there's a sequel.sequel.

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* Phalanx is the corrupted form of Long Bow Oolan, and is guarded by blobs with shields. Tower Knight is the corrupted form of the shield wielding knight of the tower, and is aided by enemies shooting arrows.
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* There are some really horrifying implications to some of the things you find out in this game. For example [[spoiler:since there is no God, only the Old One, that means that there's no afterlife in Boletaria, and as we see, the souls of the people who are killed just sit there until either the character finds and uses them, or a demon eats them. Then there's the Monumental's story: [[AndIMustScream in order to preserve the fabric of reality, hundreds of people became half living statues, able only to speak.]] Then, one by one, they began to die until there's only one left, one who had to watch every single one of his friends die and wonder if or when he would be next. Oh, and here's the topper: [[DownerEnding when the player beats the game and gets the good ending, they become a monumental themselves, which means that the fabric of reality is safe from the Old One, only up until the player dies like the previous monumentals did.]] So your choices at the end of the game are to either become a living statue that condemns himself to a fate worse than death for the sake an unbelievably CrapsackWorld, or become the ultimate demon and wipe the world out completely. Hmmmm, decisions, decisions...]]
** Also, one of the game developer's main focus was to give the player a feeling of accomplishment. In this case, [[spoiler: the satisfaction of either being the world's most powerful and evil king, or putting an end to the demon threat once and for all.]] There's no way to know for sure unless there's a sequel.

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