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** Finally, for the tenth and final trial, '''The Falsifiers''', Dante must simply defeat all enemies that comes his way using any means necessary; falsifiers are fakes, plain and simple, there’s nothing fancy or complex about their character nor their motives, therefore Dante is exempt from having to perform specific and detailed actions against them in order to succeed!

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** Finally, for the tenth and final trial, '''The Falsifiers''', Dante must simply defeat all enemies that comes his way using any means necessary; falsifiers are fakes, plain and simple, there’s nothing fancy or complex about their character nor their motives, therefore Dante is exempt from having to perform specific and detailed actions against them in order to succeed!succeed!
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* At the end of the game, Lucifer's true form is revealed to have a massive penis, which gives off truly nasty and horrific thoughts on what he would have done to Beatrice had Dante didn't free her from his control.

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The whole Fridge Horror section only consists in Natter, and the discussion concluded non of the entries were relevant. Also, cut first person-troping.


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* In ''Dante's Inferno'', Dante uses the cross of [[spoiler: his dead fiance, Beatrice,]] in order to absolve people. When you absolve souls, they are sent to heaven. At the end of the game, [[spoiler: Dante uses the cross to absolve Satan, which means Dante just put Satan back in heaven.]]
** Dante didn't absolve [[spoiler: Lucifer]], he just blasted him back into his prison. The ending does imply that [[spoiler: part of Lucifer somehow piggybacked on Dante's cross-shaped sin tapestry and is now loose in Purgatory]], but [[spoiler: Lucifer]] isn't in Heaven just yet.
** What about the Absolve and Punish options? Think about what those mean. Absolving would imply that you are sending them to Heaven, or at least Purgatory. That means that if you absolve one of the demons, you're giving a purely malevolent being a chance at eternal peace...while the countless souls in Hell that you ''don't'' absolve remain where they are. Then think about Punishment. These beings are already suffering terribly; how could you punish the damned? What are you doing to them that is even worse than the fate they've been given in hell?
** Then consider that if Absolving souls (and demons) ''does'' free them from Hell, you have the power to save everyone from eternal misery--and most of them are there for petty crimes. Instead, you ignore 99.9% of them in your myopic quest to find Beatrice.
*** FridgeBrilliance kicks in: have you just noticed ''how many'' damned souls are there? releasing them all will require all eternity to say the least. And also the fact that if some of them are in hell there's a reason for this...
*** In which case, ''why'' would the game give you an opportunity to absolve Attila the Hun or Gessius Florus?
*** Dante recognized them and wanted to go over and personally punish/absolve them?
** You can't really be absolved unless you want it and show regret. It seems every demon he absolves is a fallen angel that want to return to God's side.
*** As the babies are human souls the other entities we encounter must be human souls as well....
** When Dante uses the Cross to Absolve the souls/demons, the symbolism is that the Grace of God/Jesus' sacrifice "burns" away all of what is bad/sinful in your soul before allowing you entry into Heaven. Hence the bright light. Most demons, however, are not simply fallen angels that you redeem. They're "constructs" of Lucifer's, made in mockery of "true" angels. So, what you're doing is actually burning them to ash, destroying them utterly, no chance of any afterlife.
* Which brings us to the hugest case of FridgeHorror in the game: The next game will have you fighting God. Most of the souls in Hell that you can absolve seem to be there for petty crimes or honest mistakes, but they were given no chance of mercy or redemption. The only reason he cares about Dante and Beatrice is [[spoiler: because of Lucifer's plan to marry her/use her to have Dante free him in order to return to heaven]]. As far as things show, God is just as evil as Lucifer.
** Except you won't. More then likely you would have to fight Lucifer again since it's HIS plan to enter Heaven and God is the one who gives Dante a real change to reunite with Beatrice.



* This may be in supplemental material, but I watched the LetsPlay and don't have that. So, you have the Heretic and the Pagan. They look really similar, but the Heretic is immune to the cross. Why? The atoning death of the Messiah isn't where he erred.

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* This may be in supplemental material, but I watched the LetsPlay and don't have that. So, you have the The Heretic and the Pagan. They Pagan look really similar, but the Heretic is immune to the cross. Why? The atoning death of the Messiah isn't where he erred.



* Say whatever you want about the them, whether you enjoyed their change of pace or not, but the various trials that Dante has to complete in Fraud in order to advance are all actually very logical choices for their respective levels! Allow me to explain:

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* Say whatever you want about the them, whether you enjoyed their change of pace or not, but the various trials that Dante has to complete in Fraud in order to advance are all actually very logical choices for their respective levels! Allow me to explain:levels:
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The Trials are more of Fridge Brilliance, rather than Fridge Logic



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** For the sixth trial, '''The Hypocrites''', Dante starts off the trial defeating enemies without being able to use his Mana, only for a Beast Tamer riding atop an Asterian Beast to knock down the raised bridge RIGHT in the middle of the challenge and interrupt the battle. The trial is then cancelled and Dante is simply told to escape. This challenge is '''HYPOCRITICAL''' in what it tells Dante what he is supposed to do in order to pass!

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** For the sixth trial, '''The Hypocrites''', Dante starts off the trial defeating enemies without being able to use his Mana, only for a Beast Tamer riding atop an Asterian Beast to knock down the raised bridge RIGHT in the middle of the challenge and interrupt the battle. The trial is then cancelled and Dante is simply told to escape. This challenge is '''HYPOCRITICAL''' in what it tells wants Dante what he is supposed to do in order to pass!



** Finally, for the tenth and final trial, '''The Falsifiers''', Dante must simply defeat all enemies that comes his way using any means necessary; falsifiers are fakes, plain and simple, there’s nothing fancy or complex about their character nor their motives, therefore Dante is free from having to perform specific and detailed actions against them in order to succeed!

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** Finally, for the tenth and final trial, '''The Falsifiers''', Dante must simply defeat all enemies that comes his way using any means necessary; falsifiers are fakes, plain and simple, there’s nothing fancy or complex about their character nor their motives, therefore Dante is free exempt from having to perform specific and detailed actions against them in order to succeed!
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** For the third trial, '''The Simonists''', Dante must kill five enemies while they are airborne; simonists are individuals who use money or power to purchase or sell church offices and roles. Dante, in an ironic twist, is using his own skills and powers to defeat enemies who are, "higher up," to remove them from their own positions of influence.
** For the fourth trial, '''The Sorcerers''', Dante must simply stay airborne for eight seconds; sorcerers are known for calling upon otherworldly powers and defying the laws of nature, which reflects the challenge here, as flying/levitating on their own without aid is not something humans can achieve, as it’s not how God created us.

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** For the third trial, '''The Simonists''', Dante must kill five enemies while they are airborne; simonists are individuals who use money or power to purchase or sell church offices and roles. Dante, in an ironic twist, is using his own skills and powers to defeat enemies who are, "higher up," in order to remove them from their own positions of influence.
** For the fourth trial, '''The Sorcerers''', Dante must simply stay airborne for eight seconds; sorcerers are known for calling upon otherworldly powers and defying the laws of nature, which reflects the challenge here, as flying/levitating on their own without aid is not something humans can achieve, a part of human nature, as it’s not how God created us.



** For the ninth trial, '''The Sowers of Discord''', Dante must defeat all enemies without allowing the Hit Counter to reset; Dante is placed in a stressful and CHAOTIC situation by having to battle enemies while simultaneously attempting to fulfill his own agenda without being allowed a break for even a SECOND!

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** For the ninth trial, '''The Sowers of Discord''', Dante must defeat all enemies without allowing the Hit Counter to reset; Dante is placed in a stressful and CHAOTIC '''CHAOTIC''' situation by having to battle enemies while simultaneously attempting to fulfill his own agenda without being allowed a break for even a SECOND!
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** For the first trial, '''The Panderers and Seducers''', Dante must defeat all enemies with infinite Mana; this trial is the FIRST and ONLY time that Dante has the chance to use his Holy and Unholy spells repeatedly without limit! This trial is '''SEDUCTIVE''' and '''PANDERS''' to players who love to rain down powerful attacks and completely annihilate all enemies that stand in their way!

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** For the first trial, '''The Panderers and Seducers''', Dante must defeat all enemies with infinite Mana; this Mana. This trial is the FIRST and ONLY time that Dante has the chance to use his Holy and Unholy spells repeatedly without limit! This trial is '''SEDUCTIVE''' and '''PANDERS''' to players who love to rain down powerful attacks and completely annihilate all enemies that stand in their way!



** For the third trial, '''The Simonists''', Dante must kill five enemies while they are airborne; simonists are individuals who use money or power to purchase or sell church offices and roles; Dante, in an ironic twist, is using his own skills and powers to defeat enemies who are, "higher up," to remove them from their own positions of influence.

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** For the third trial, '''The Simonists''', Dante must kill five enemies while they are airborne; simonists are individuals who use money or power to purchase or sell church offices and roles; roles. Dante, in an ironic twist, is using his own skills and powers to defeat enemies who are, "higher up," to remove them from their own positions of influence.
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** For the sixth trial, '''The Hypocrites''', Dante starts off the trial defeating enemies without being able to use his Mana, only for a Beast Tamer riding atop an Asterian Beast to knock down the raised bridge RIGHT in the middle of the challenge and interrupt the battle. The trial is then cancelled and Dante is simply told to escape; this challenge is '''HYPOCRITICAL''' in what it tells Dante what he is supposed to do in order to pass!

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** For the sixth trial, '''The Hypocrites''', Dante starts off the trial defeating enemies without being able to use his Mana, only for a Beast Tamer riding atop an Asterian Beast to knock down the raised bridge RIGHT in the middle of the challenge and interrupt the battle. The trial is then cancelled and Dante is simply told to escape; this escape. This challenge is '''HYPOCRITICAL''' in what it tells Dante what he is supposed to do in order to pass!
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** For the ninth trial, '''The Sowers of Discord''', Dante must defeat all enemies without allowing the Hit Counter to reset; Dante is placed in a stressful and chaotic situation by battling enemies while simultaneously attempting to fulfill his own agenda without being allowed a break for even a SECOND!
** Finally, for the Tenth and final trial, '''The Falsifiers''', Dante must simply defeat all enemies that comes his way using any means necessary; falsifiers are fakes, plain and simple, there’s nothing fancy or complex about their character nor their motives, therefore Dante is free from having to perform specific and detailed actions against them in order to succeed and pass!

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** For the ninth trial, '''The Sowers of Discord''', Dante must defeat all enemies without allowing the Hit Counter to reset; Dante is placed in a stressful and chaotic CHAOTIC situation by battling having to battle enemies while simultaneously attempting to fulfill his own agenda without being allowed a break for even a SECOND!
** Finally, for the Tenth tenth and final trial, '''The Falsifiers''', Dante must simply defeat all enemies that comes his way using any means necessary; falsifiers are fakes, plain and simple, there’s nothing fancy or complex about their character nor their motives, therefore Dante is free from having to perform specific and detailed actions against them in order to succeed and pass!succeed!
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** For the eighth challenge, '''The Evil Counselors''', Dante must kill every enemy without being able to block attacks; this parallels how we drop our guards around those whom we trust and know intimately when asking for advice or wisdom in decision-making.

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** For the eighth challenge, '''The Evil Counselors''', Dante must kill every enemy without being able to block attacks; this attacks. This parallels how we drop our guards around those whom we trust and know intimately when asking for advice or wisdom in decision-making.
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** For the sixth trial, The Hypocrites, Dante starts off the trial defeating enemies without being able to use his Mana, only for a Beast Tamer riding atop an Asterian Beast to knock down the raised bridge RIGHT in the middle of the challenge and interrupt the battle. The trial is then cancelled and Dante is simply told to escape; this challenge is '''HYPOCRITICAL''' in what it tells Dante what he is supposed to do in order to pass!

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** For the sixth trial, The Hypocrites, '''The Hypocrites''', Dante starts off the trial defeating enemies without being able to use his Mana, only for a Beast Tamer riding atop an Asterian Beast to knock down the raised bridge RIGHT in the middle of the challenge and interrupt the battle. The trial is then cancelled and Dante is simply told to escape; this challenge is '''HYPOCRITICAL''' in what it tells Dante what he is supposed to do in order to pass!
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** For the third trial, '''The Simonists''', Dante must kill five enemies while they are airborne; simonists are individuals who use money or power to purchase or sell church offices and roles; Dante, in an ironic twist, is using his own skills and powers to defeat enemies who are, "higher up," to remove them from their own positions of influence

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** For the third trial, '''The Simonists''', Dante must kill five enemies while they are airborne; simonists are individuals who use money or power to purchase or sell church offices and roles; Dante, in an ironic twist, is using his own skills and powers to defeat enemies who are, "higher up," to remove them from their own positions of influenceinfluence.



** For the sixth trial, The Hypocrites, Dante starts off the trial defeating enemies without being able to use his Mana, only for a Beast Tamer riding atop an Asterian Beast to knock down the raised bridge RIGHT in the middle of the challenge and interrupt the battle. The trial is then cancelled and Dante is simply told to escape; this challenge is '''HYPOCRITICAL''' in what Dante is supposed to do in order to pass!

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** For the sixth trial, The Hypocrites, Dante starts off the trial defeating enemies without being able to use his Mana, only for a Beast Tamer riding atop an Asterian Beast to knock down the raised bridge RIGHT in the middle of the challenge and interrupt the battle. The trial is then cancelled and Dante is simply told to escape; this challenge is '''HYPOCRITICAL''' in what it tells Dante what he is supposed to do in order to pass!
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** For the third trial, '''The Simonists''', Dante must kill five enemies while they are airborne; simonists are individuals who use money or power to purchase or sell church offices and roles; Dante, in an ironic twist, is using his own skills and powers to defeat enemies while in the air to remove them from their own positions of influence
** For the fourth trial, The Sorcerers, Dante must simply stay airborne for eight seconds; sorcerers are known for calling upon otherworldly powers and defying the laws of nature, which reflects the challenge here, as flying/levitating on their own without aid is not something humans can achieve, as it’s not how God created us.

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** For the third trial, '''The Simonists''', Dante must kill five enemies while they are airborne; simonists are individuals who use money or power to purchase or sell church offices and roles; Dante, in an ironic twist, is using his own skills and powers to defeat enemies while in the air who are, "higher up," to remove them from their own positions of influence
** For the fourth trial, The Sorcerers, '''The Sorcerers''', Dante must simply stay airborne for eight seconds; sorcerers are known for calling upon otherworldly powers and defying the laws of nature, which reflects the challenge here, as flying/levitating on their own without aid is not something humans can achieve, as it’s not how God created us.
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* Say whatever you want about the them, whether you enjoyed their change of pace or not, but the various trials that Dante has to complete in Fraud to advance are all actually very logical choices for their respective levels! Allow me to explain:

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* Say whatever you want about the them, whether you enjoyed their change of pace or not, but the various trials that Dante has to complete in Fraud in order to advance are all actually very logical choices for their respective levels! Allow me to explain:



** For the second trial, '''The Flatterers''', Dante must attack all enemies in order to achieve a 100-hit combo; completing this trials is a very '''FLATTERING''' achievement for a player, as is shows just how skilled that they’ve become throughout the journey!

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** For the second trial, '''The Flatterers''', Dante must attack all enemies in order to achieve a 100-hit combo; completing this trials trial is a very '''FLATTERING''' achievement for a player, as is shows just how skilled that they’ve become throughout over the course of the journey!
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** For the first trial, ‘’’The Panderers and Seducers’’’, Dante must defeat all enemies with infinite Mana; this trial is the FIRST and ONLY time that Dante has the chance to use his Holy and Unholy spells repeatedly without limit! This trial is ‘’’SEDUCTIVE’’’ and ‘’’PANDERS’’’ to players who love to rain down powerful attacks and completely annihilate all enemies that stand in their way!
** For the second trial, ‘’’The Flatterers’’’, Dante must attack all enemies in order to achieve a 100-hit combo; completing this trials is a very ‘’’FLATTERING’’’ achievement for a player, as is shows just how skilled that they’ve become throughout the journey!
** For the third trial, ‘’’The Simonists’’’, Dante must kill five enemies while they are airborne; simonists are individuals who use money or power to purchase or sell church offices and roles; Dante, in an ironic twist, is using his own skills and powers to defeat enemies while in the air to remove them from their own positions of influence

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** For the first trial, ‘’’The '''The Panderers and Seducers’’’, Seducers''', Dante must defeat all enemies with infinite Mana; this trial is the FIRST and ONLY time that Dante has the chance to use his Holy and Unholy spells repeatedly without limit! This trial is ‘’’SEDUCTIVE’’’ '''SEDUCTIVE''' and ‘’’PANDERS’’’ '''PANDERS''' to players who love to rain down powerful attacks and completely annihilate all enemies that stand in their way!
** For the second trial, ‘’’The Flatterers’’’, '''The Flatterers''', Dante must attack all enemies in order to achieve a 100-hit combo; completing this trials is a very ‘’’FLATTERING’’’ '''FLATTERING''' achievement for a player, as is shows just how skilled that they’ve become throughout the journey!
** For the third trial, ‘’’The Simonists’’’, '''The Simonists''', Dante must kill five enemies while they are airborne; simonists are individuals who use money or power to purchase or sell church offices and roles; Dante, in an ironic twist, is using his own skills and powers to defeat enemies while in the air to remove them from their own positions of influence



** For the fifth trial, ‘’’The Politicians’’’, Dante must protect two living humans from several waves of Exploding Minions. This trial is a reflection on the true nature of Politics, which is to govern a country or some other area which involves ensuring the well-being of the people that live in those places!
** For the sixth trial, The Hypocrites, Dante starts off the trial defeating enemies without being able to use his Mana, only for a Beast Tamer riding atop an Asterian Beast to knock down the raised bridge RIGHT in the middle of the challenge and interrupt the battle. The trial is then cancelled and Dante is simply told to escape; this challenge is ‘’’HYPOCRITICAL’’’ in what Dante is supposed to do in order to pass!
** For the seventh trial, ‘’’The Thieves’’’, Dante has to defeat all of the waves of enemies while his health continually drains; thieves are constantly on the move and competing with others for a chance to score valuables or money, all the while constantly making enemies and slowly ensuing their eventual downfalls.
** For the eighth challenge, ‘’The Evil Counselors’’’, Dante must kill every enemy without being able to block attacks; this parallels how we drop our guards around those whom we trust and know intimately when asking for advice or wisdom in decision-making.
** For the ninth trial, ‘’’The Sowers of Discord’’’, Dante must defeat all enemies without allowing the Hit Counter to reset; Dante is placed in a stressful and chaotic situation by battling enemies while simultaneously attempting to fulfill his own agenda without being allowed a break for even a SECOND!
** Finally, for the Tenth and final trial, ‘’’The Falsifiers’’’, Dante must simply defeat all enemies that comes his way using any means necessary; falsifiers are fakes, plain and simple, there’s nothing fancy or complex about their character nor their motives, therefore Dante is free from having to perform specific and detailed actions against them in order to succeed and pass!

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** For the fifth trial, ‘’’The Politicians’’’, '''The Politicians''', Dante must protect two living humans from several waves of Exploding Minions. This trial is a reflection on the true nature of Politics, which is to govern a country or some other area which involves ensuring the well-being of the people that live in those places!
** For the sixth trial, The Hypocrites, Dante starts off the trial defeating enemies without being able to use his Mana, only for a Beast Tamer riding atop an Asterian Beast to knock down the raised bridge RIGHT in the middle of the challenge and interrupt the battle. The trial is then cancelled and Dante is simply told to escape; this challenge is ‘’’HYPOCRITICAL’’’ '''HYPOCRITICAL''' in what Dante is supposed to do in order to pass!
** For the seventh trial, ‘’’The Thieves’’’, '''The Thieves''', Dante has to defeat all of the waves of enemies while his health continually drains; thieves are constantly on the move and competing with others for a chance to score valuables or money, all the while constantly making enemies and slowly ensuing their eventual downfalls.
** For the eighth challenge, ‘’The '''The Evil Counselors’’’, Counselors''', Dante must kill every enemy without being able to block attacks; this parallels how we drop our guards around those whom we trust and know intimately when asking for advice or wisdom in decision-making.
** For the ninth trial, ‘’’The '''The Sowers of Discord’’’, Discord''', Dante must defeat all enemies without allowing the Hit Counter to reset; Dante is placed in a stressful and chaotic situation by battling enemies while simultaneously attempting to fulfill his own agenda without being allowed a break for even a SECOND!
** Finally, for the Tenth and final trial, ‘’’The Falsifiers’’’, '''The Falsifiers''', Dante must simply defeat all enemies that comes his way using any means necessary; falsifiers are fakes, plain and simple, there’s nothing fancy or complex about their character nor their motives, therefore Dante is free from having to perform specific and detailed actions against them in order to succeed and pass!
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* Beatrice's brother Francesco died because he was executed for Dante's atrocities. This seems like it would be a HeroicSacrifice, yet he is in Hell for it. This is because he helped a murderer go free, and the bible specifically mentions obstructing justice as something God detests.

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* Beatrice's brother Francesco died because he was executed for Dante's atrocities. This seems like it would be a HeroicSacrifice, yet he is in Hell for it. This is because he helped a murderer go free, and the bible specifically mentions obstructing justice as something God detests.detests.

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*Say whatever you want about the them, whether you enjoyed their change of pace or not, but the various trials that Dante has to complete in Fraud to advance are all actually very logical choices for their respective levels! Allow me to explain:
**For the first trial, ‘’’The Panderers and Seducers’’’, Dante must defeat all enemies with infinite Mana; this trial is the FIRST and ONLY time that Dante has the chance to use his Holy and Unholy spells repeatedly without limit! This trial is ‘’’SEDUCTIVE’’’ and ‘’’PANDERS’’’ to players who love to rain down powerful attacks and completely annihilate all enemies that stand in their way!
**For the second trial, ‘’’The Flatterers’’’, Dante must attack all enemies in order to achieve a 100-hit combo; completing this trials is a very ‘’’FLATTERING’’’ achievement for a player, as is shows just how skilled that they’ve become throughout the journey!
**For the third trial, ‘’’The Simonists’’’, Dante must kill five enemies while they are airborne; simonists are individuals who use money or power to purchase or sell church offices and roles; Dante, in an ironic twist, is using his own skills and powers to defeat enemies while in the air to remove them from their own positions of influence
**For the fourth trial, The Sorcerers, Dante must simply stay airborne for eight seconds; sorcerers are known for calling upon otherworldly powers and defying the laws of nature, which reflects the challenge here, as flying/levitating on their own without aid is not something humans can achieve, as it’s not how God created us.
**For the fifth trial, ‘’’The Politicians’’’, Dante must protect two living humans from several waves of Exploding Minions. This trial is a reflection on the true nature of Politics, which is to govern a country or some other area which involves ensuring the well-being of the people that live in those places!
**For the sixth trial, The Hypocrites, Dante starts off the trial defeating enemies without being able to use his Mana, only for a Beast Tamer riding atop an Asterian Beast to knock down the raised bridge RIGHT in the middle of the challenge and interrupt the battle. The trial is then cancelled and Dante is simply told to escape; this challenge is ‘’’HYPOCRITICAL’’’ in what Dante is supposed to do in order to pass!
**For the seventh trial, ‘’’The Thieves’’’, Dante has to defeat all of the waves of enemies while his health continually drains; thieves are constantly on the move and competing with others for a chance to score valuables or money, all the while constantly making enemies and slowly ensuing their eventual downfalls.
**For the eighth challenge, ‘’The Evil Counselors’’’, Dante must kill every enemy without being able to block attacks; this parallels how we drop our guards around those whom we trust and know intimately when asking for advice or wisdom in decision-making.
**For the ninth trial, ‘’’The Sowers of Discord’’’, Dante must defeat all enemies without allowing the Hit Counter to reset; Dante is placed in a stressful and chaotic situation by battling enemies while simultaneously attempting to fulfill his own agenda without being allowed a break for even a SECOND!
**Finally, for the Tenth and final trial, ‘’’The Falsifiers’’’, Dante must simply defeat all enemies that comes his way using any means necessary; falsifiers are fakes, plain and simple, there’s nothing fancy or complex about their character nor their motives, therefore Dante is free from having to perform specific and detailed actions against them in order to succeed and pass!
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* Whenever a Beast Tamer manages to climb on an Asterian Beast's back and try to wrest control away from him, he actually steals Dante's scythe for a brief while. If the Tamer succeeds (aka Dante fails the quick-time event), the demon will throw Dante off the beast ''along with the scythe.'' At first, this seems like an incredibly stupid move on the demon's part: why would he essentially give one of Dante's primary weapons back to him instead of keeping it or getting rid of it permanently? [[spoiler: Until you realize that Lucifer needs Dante to break the Chains of Judecca for him as part of his BatmanGambit, chains that Dante can't break unless he's using the scythe. More than likely, Lucifer specifically ''ordered'' the Beast Tamers to give Dante a fighting chance and let him keep his weapons, as the end game of freedom from Hell is far more important to him than depriving Dante of one of his primary ways to defend himself.]]

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* Whenever a Beast Tamer manages to climb on an Asterian Beast's back and try to wrest control away from him, he actually steals Dante's scythe for a brief while. If the Tamer succeeds (aka Dante fails the quick-time event), the demon will throw Dante off the beast ''along with the scythe.'' At first, this seems like an incredibly stupid move on the demon's part: why would he essentially give one of Dante's primary weapons back to him instead of keeping it or getting rid of it permanently? [[spoiler: Until you realize that Lucifer needs Dante to break the Chains of Judecca for him as part of his BatmanGambit, chains that Dante can't break unless he's using the scythe. More than likely, Lucifer specifically ''ordered'' the Beast Tamers to give Dante a fighting chance and let him keep his weapons, as the end game of freedom from Hell is far more important to him than depriving Dante of one of his primary ways to defend himself.]]]]
* Beatrice's brother Francesco died because he was executed for Dante's atrocities. This seems like it would be a HeroicSacrifice, yet he is in Hell for it. This is because he helped a murderer go free, and the bible specifically mentions obstructing justice as something God detests.
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* Whenever a Beast Tamer manages to climb on an Asterian Beast's back and try to wrest control away from him, he actually steals Dante's scythe for a brief while. If the Tamer succeeds (aka Dante fails the quick-time event), the demon will throw Dante off the beast ''along with the scythe.'' At first, this seems like an incredibly stupid move on the demon's part: why would he essentially give one of Dante's primary weapons back to him instead of keeping it or getting rid of it permanently. [[spoiler: Until you realize that Lucifer needs Dante to break the Chains of Judecca for him as part of his BatmanGambit, chains that Dante can't break unless he's using the scythe. More than likely, Lucifer specifically ''ordered'' the Beast Tamers to give Dante a fighting chance and let him keep his weapons, as the end game of freedom from Hell is far more important to him than Dante being defeated and damned as just another doomed shade.]]

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* Whenever a Beast Tamer manages to climb on an Asterian Beast's back and try to wrest control away from him, he actually steals Dante's scythe for a brief while. If the Tamer succeeds (aka Dante fails the quick-time event), the demon will throw Dante off the beast ''along with the scythe.'' At first, this seems like an incredibly stupid move on the demon's part: why would he essentially give one of Dante's primary weapons back to him instead of keeping it or getting rid of it permanently. permanently? [[spoiler: Until you realize that Lucifer needs Dante to break the Chains of Judecca for him as part of his BatmanGambit, chains that Dante can't break unless he's using the scythe. More than likely, Lucifer specifically ''ordered'' the Beast Tamers to give Dante a fighting chance and let him keep his weapons, as the end game of freedom from Hell is far more important to him than depriving Dante being defeated and damned as just another doomed shade.of one of his primary ways to defend himself.]]
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* Whenever a Beast Tamer manages to climb on an Asterian Beast's back and try to wrest control away from him, he actually steals Dante's scythe for a brief while. If the Tamer succeeds (aka Dante fails) to fight off the Tamer, the demon will throw Dante off the beast ''along with the scythe.'' At first, this seems like an incredibly stupid move on the demon's part: why would he essentially give one of Dante's primary weapons back to him instead of keeping it or getting rid of it permanently. [[spoiler: Until you realize that Lucifer needs Dante to break the Chains of Judecca for him as part of his BatmanGambit, chains that Dante can't break unless he's using the scythe. More than likely, Lucifer specifically ''ordered'' the Beast Tamers to give Dante a fighting chance and let him keep his weapons, as the end game of freedom from Hell is far more important to him than Dante being defeated and damned as just another doomed shade.]]

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* Whenever a Beast Tamer manages to climb on an Asterian Beast's back and try to wrest control away from him, he actually steals Dante's scythe for a brief while. If the Tamer succeeds (aka Dante fails) to fight off fails the Tamer, quick-time event), the demon will throw Dante off the beast ''along with the scythe.'' At first, this seems like an incredibly stupid move on the demon's part: why would he essentially give one of Dante's primary weapons back to him instead of keeping it or getting rid of it permanently. [[spoiler: Until you realize that Lucifer needs Dante to break the Chains of Judecca for him as part of his BatmanGambit, chains that Dante can't break unless he's using the scythe. More than likely, Lucifer specifically ''ordered'' the Beast Tamers to give Dante a fighting chance and let him keep his weapons, as the end game of freedom from Hell is far more important to him than Dante being defeated and damned as just another doomed shade.]]
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* You visit the same areas in the Greed quite often. Could this be a metaphor for the cycle of earning/spending? Going through the first time, coming back with a new circumstance in effect and getting through it that time.

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* You visit the same areas in the Greed quite often. Could this be a metaphor for the cycle of earning/spending? Going through the first time, coming back with a new circumstance in effect and getting through it that time.time.
* Whenever a Beast Tamer manages to climb on an Asterian Beast's back and try to wrest control away from him, he actually steals Dante's scythe for a brief while. If the Tamer succeeds (aka Dante fails) to fight off the Tamer, the demon will throw Dante off the beast ''along with the scythe.'' At first, this seems like an incredibly stupid move on the demon's part: why would he essentially give one of Dante's primary weapons back to him instead of keeping it or getting rid of it permanently. [[spoiler: Until you realize that Lucifer needs Dante to break the Chains of Judecca for him as part of his BatmanGambit, chains that Dante can't break unless he's using the scythe. More than likely, Lucifer specifically ''ordered'' the Beast Tamers to give Dante a fighting chance and let him keep his weapons, as the end game of freedom from Hell is far more important to him than Dante being defeated and damned as just another doomed shade.]]
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** Except you won't. More then likely you would have to fight Lucifer again since it's HIS plan to enter Heaven and God is the one who gives Dante a real change to reunite with Beatrice.
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** When Dante uses the Cross to Absolve the souls/demons, the symbolism is that the Grace of God/Jesus' sacrifice "burns" away all of what is bad/sinful in your soul before allowing you entry into Heaven. Hence the bright light. Most demons, however, are not simply fallen angels that you redeem. They're "constructs" of Lucifer's, made in mockery of "true" angels. So, what you're doing is actually burning them to ash, destroying them utterly, no chance of any afterlife.
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* This may be in supplemental material, but I watched the LetsPlay and don't have that. So, you have the Heretic and the Pagan. They look really similar, but the Heretic is immune to the cross. Why? The atoning death of the Messiah isn't where he erred.

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* This may be in supplemental material, but I watched the LetsPlay and don't have that. So, you have the Heretic and the Pagan. They look really similar, but the Heretic is immune to the cross. Why? The atoning death of the Messiah isn't where he erred.erred.
* There seems to be a lot of areas in Fraud that lead to nowhere, as short as they may be. Makes sense that realm of liars has dead ends and textures that look important without actually doing anything.
* You visit the same areas in the Greed quite often. Could this be a metaphor for the cycle of earning/spending? Going through the first time, coming back with a new circumstance in effect and getting through it that time.
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*** As the babies are human souls the other entities we encounter must be human souls as well....
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* Which brings us to the hugest case of FridgeHorror in the game: The next game will have you fighting God. Most of the souls in Hell that you can absolve seem to be there for petty crimes or honest mistakes, but they were given no chance of mercy or redemption. The only reason he cares about Dante and Beatrice is [[spoiler: because of Lucifer's plan to marry her/use her to have Dante free him in order to return to heaven]]. As far as things show, God is just as evil as Lucifer.

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* Which brings us to the hugest case of FridgeHorror in the game: The next game will have you fighting God. Most of the souls in Hell that you can absolve seem to be there for petty crimes or honest mistakes, but they were given no chance of mercy or redemption. The only reason he cares about Dante and Beatrice is [[spoiler: because of Lucifer's plan to marry her/use her to have Dante free him in order to return to heaven]]. As far as things show, God is just as evil as Lucifer.Lucifer.

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* This may be in supplemental material, but I watched the LetsPlay and don't have that. So, you have the Heretic and the Pagan. They look really similar, but the Heretic is immune to the cross. Why? The atoning death of the Messiah isn't where he erred.
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** You can't really be absolved unless you want it and show regret. It seems every demon he absolves is a fallen angel that want to return to God's side.

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** You can't really be absolved unless you want it and show regret. It seems every demon he absolves is a fallen angel that want to return to God's side.side.
* Which brings us to the hugest case of FridgeHorror in the game: The next game will have you fighting God. Most of the souls in Hell that you can absolve seem to be there for petty crimes or honest mistakes, but they were given no chance of mercy or redemption. The only reason he cares about Dante and Beatrice is [[spoiler: because of Lucifer's plan to marry her/use her to have Dante free him in order to return to heaven]]. As far as things show, God is just as evil as Lucifer.
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*** Dante recognized them and wanted to go over and personally punish/absolve them?

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*** Dante recognized them and wanted to go over and personally punish/absolve them?them?
** You can't really be absolved unless you want it and show regret. It seems every demon he absolves is a fallen angel that want to return to God's side.
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*** In which case, ''why'' would the game give you an opportunity to absolve Attila the Hun or Gessius Florus?

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*** In which case, ''why'' would the game give you an opportunity to absolve Attila the Hun or Gessius Florus?Florus?
*** Dante recognized them and wanted to go over and personally punish/absolve them?
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*** In which case, ''why'' would the game give you an opportunity to absolve Attila the Hun or Gessius Florus?
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* In ''[=~Dante's Inferno~=]'', Dante uses the cross of [[spoiler: his dead fiance, Beatrice,]] in order to absolve people. When you absolve souls, they are sent to heaven. At the end of the game, [[spoiler: Dante uses the cross to absolve Satan, which means Dante just put Satan back in heaven.]]

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* In ''[=~Dante's Inferno~=]'', ''Dante's Inferno'', Dante uses the cross of [[spoiler: his dead fiance, Beatrice,]] in order to absolve people. When you absolve souls, they are sent to heaven. At the end of the game, [[spoiler: Dante uses the cross to absolve Satan, which means Dante just put Satan back in heaven.]]
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*** FridgeBrilliance kicks in: have you just noticed ''how many'' damned souls are there? releasing them all will require all eternity to say the least. And also the fact that if some of them are in hell there's a reason for this...

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