History Fridge / BloodThatFlows

22nd Jan '16 9:24:51 PM FreedomPlanet
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** The Wolkenritter entire bodies had been completely destroyed in the past several times alongside the destruction and death of various worlds while their resurrection spell has always been able to return them as good as new no matter the degree of destruction(from a certain POV it's almost as if the Book had a reliable memory of the constitution of their complete bodies). Some people(and partly this fic) implied the Wolkernritter fought and sometimes lost during various wars where is somewhat safe to assume they lost body parts(specially Vita and Signum being front fighters and all), yet they always had been restored completely. So yeah, the more plausible explanation for Signum being currently unable to fully recover her body is because they don't have access to such powerfull magic anymore now that they were downgraded to mere humans.

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** The Wolkenritter entire bodies had been completely destroyed in the past several times alongside the destruction and death of various worlds while their resurrection spell has always been able to return them as good as new no matter the degree of destruction(from a certain POV it's almost as if the Book had a reliable memory of the constitution of their complete bodies). Some people(and partly this fic) implied the Wolkernritter fought and sometimes lost during various wars where is somewhat safe to assume they lost body parts(specially Vita and Signum being front fighters and all), yet they always had been restored completely. So yeah, the more plausible explanation for Signum being currently unable to fully recover her body is because they don't have access to such powerfull magic anymore now that they were downgraded to mere humans.humans.
* Arisa has a fragment of the Blue Dragon God (known as Dorpheed in BTF), when you recall Garoth's plan hinged on if it was actually the seal of his master and not his master's enemy, he was likely right that it was Chaotic Blue's seal.
20th Apr '12 12:19:15 PM Akiyoshi
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** The Wolkenritter entire bodies had been completely destroyed in the past several times alongside the destruction and death of various worlds while their resurrection spell has always been able to return them as good as new no matter the degree of destruction(from a certain POV it's almost as if the Book had a reliable memory of the constitution of their complete bodies). Some people(and partly this fic) implied the Wolkernritter fought and sometimes lost during various wars where is somewhat safe to assume they lost body parts(specially Vita and Signum being front fighters and all), yet they always had been restored completely. So yeah, the more plausible explanation for Signum being currently unable to fully recover her body is because they don't have access to such powerfull magic anymore now that they're mere humans.

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** The Wolkenritter entire bodies had been completely destroyed in the past several times alongside the destruction and death of various worlds while their resurrection spell has always been able to return them as good as new no matter the degree of destruction(from a certain POV it's almost as if the Book had a reliable memory of the constitution of their complete bodies). Some people(and partly this fic) implied the Wolkernritter fought and sometimes lost during various wars where is somewhat safe to assume they lost body parts(specially Vita and Signum being front fighters and all), yet they always had been restored completely. So yeah, the more plausible explanation for Signum being currently unable to fully recover her body is because they don't have access to such powerfull magic anymore now that they're they were downgraded to mere humans.
20th Apr '12 12:18:46 PM Akiyoshi
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** The Wolkenritter entire bodies had been completely destroyed in the past several times alongside the destruction and death of various worlds while they resurrection spell was always able to return them as good as new no matter the degree of destruction(from a certain POV it's almost as if the Book had a reliable memory of the contitutions of their complete bodies). Some people(and partly this fic) implied the Wolkernritter fought and sometimes lost during various wars where is somewhat safe to assume they lost body parts(specially Vita and Signum being front fighters and all), yet they always had been restored completely. So yeah, the more plausible explanation for Signum being unable to recover completely is because they don't have access to such powerfull magic anymore now that they're mere humans.

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** The Wolkenritter entire bodies had been completely destroyed in the past several times alongside the destruction and death of various worlds while they their resurrection spell was has always been able to return them as good as new no matter the degree of destruction(from a certain POV it's almost as if the Book had a reliable memory of the contitutions constitution of their complete bodies). Some people(and partly this fic) implied the Wolkernritter fought and sometimes lost during various wars where is somewhat safe to assume they lost body parts(specially Vita and Signum being front fighters and all), yet they always had been restored completely. So yeah, the more plausible explanation for Signum being currently unable to fully recover completely her body is because they don't have access to such powerfull magic anymore now that they're mere humans.
20th Apr '12 12:16:50 PM Akiyoshi
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** Technically speaking, resurrection magic can regenerate body parts, but only if anything remained of them. So an arm that is barely there could be regenerated given sufficient power, but an arm that was completely blown away can't. It's as if the body was rebuilt to match the blueprint that is inscribed on the original body, with parts of the blueprint being lost when any body part is lost completely.

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** Technically speaking, resurrection magic can regenerate body parts, but only if anything remained of them. So an arm that is barely there could be regenerated given sufficient power, but an arm that was completely blown away can't. It's as if the body was rebuilt to match the blueprint that is inscribed on the original body, with parts of the blueprint being lost when any body part is lost completely.completely.
** The Wolkenritter entire bodies had been completely destroyed in the past several times alongside the destruction and death of various worlds while they resurrection spell was always able to return them as good as new no matter the degree of destruction(from a certain POV it's almost as if the Book had a reliable memory of the contitutions of their complete bodies). Some people(and partly this fic) implied the Wolkernritter fought and sometimes lost during various wars where is somewhat safe to assume they lost body parts(specially Vita and Signum being front fighters and all), yet they always had been restored completely. So yeah, the more plausible explanation for Signum being unable to recover completely is because they don't have access to such powerfull magic anymore now that they're mere humans.
11th Apr '12 2:02:30 PM Kazeto
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** Well, yeah, that more or less comprissed what i meant to say. Being a human now is what prevents her to use her old Wolkenritter's resurrection spell that restore her to mint condition.

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** Well, yeah, that more or less comprissed what i meant to say. Being a human now is what prevents her to use her old Wolkenritter's resurrection spell that restore her to mint condition.condition.
** Technically speaking, resurrection magic can regenerate body parts, but only if anything remained of them. So an arm that is barely there could be regenerated given sufficient power, but an arm that was completely blown away can't. It's as if the body was rebuilt to match the blueprint that is inscribed on the original body, with parts of the blueprint being lost when any body part is lost completely.
13th Jan '12 1:34:28 AM Akiyoshi
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*** That's assuming Cinque directly attacked her with Chaos Magic. Rumble Detonator just turns metal into explosive material, the same kind Nanoha and Co. has the ability to shield from for years(probably even tank missiles will fail to do effective damage to a well placed Panzerschild). Seeing as Panzergeist was able to shield Signum from much worse in the past i think the point remains. Still, i give some credit to Cinque as it was stated by canon that her longcoat have some AMF capabilities which can be handwaved as the reason of why Signum's defenses weakened at such short distance from the cyborg. Well, that and the fact that Signum's human body is a lot less tougher than her canon counterpart.



** I think you mean that Resurrection magic works just as well for her as it does for any human.

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** I think you mean that Resurrection magic works just as well for her as it does for any human.human.
** Well, yeah, that more or less comprissed what i meant to say. Being a human now is what prevents her to use her old Wolkenritter's resurrection spell that restore her to mint condition.
13th Jan '12 12:14:09 AM KuroiHadou
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* Signum vs. Cinque. I mean, what about igniting the sword frying Cinque's hand in the process? Or what about skin-tight powerful shielding spells like Panzergeist?

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* Signum vs. Cinque. I mean, what about igniting the sword and frying Cinque's hand in the process? Or what about skin-tight powerful shielding spells like Panzergeist?



** Signum didn't know about Rumble Detonator at the time raising the question about why she didn't ignited Laevatein, Shidden Issen is not a small spark, is a spiral stream of flames that allows Signum slice through barriers and heavy armored foes. If anything it could been a good method to get Cinque's hand out of the way(even if the cyborg have a HealingFactor, the regeneration isn't instantaneous and the time she takes to regenerate could've allowed Signum to make distance and rethink her battle approach, not to mention the crippling pain Cinque experience everytime she do that. About Panzergeist, while it's true the it seems to be casted with Laevatein's assistance, it doesn't need a cartridge at all, go watch Nanoha A's Ep. 2 again for confirmation.
*** My guess, Signum didn't want to cause severe injuries as she knew the last time Chaos power user(Nanoha herself) got severly injured, really bad things tend to happen. And regarding Panzergeist, I doubt it would have made a difference anyway. This is Chaos magic, the power behind the spells like the Ragna Blade that can tear through dimensions.
* There's a popular guessing that theorizes Laevatein isn't really made of real metal as devices in reality are magical constructs made of mana shapped into solid substance which will make Rumble Detonator's effect unusable on those(and also could explain why Cinque just didn't blowed up all the devices she faced on the canon series). But seeing as BTF works by it's own set of rules i wonder if Laevantine can be considered a legitimally real metal sword in this verse, it sucks for her at this moment but if Laevatein is a true sword that could give an entire new dimension to her future fight against Cypha(should the writer decide to include that in his cannon).
** Signum was one of the many in the TSAB now with the Blaster Metal upgrade (which she was using in this fight anyway). Her Device, if it didn't have physical material in the blade, probably does now.
* According to Chapter 50, Resurrection magic can't regenerate lost body parts but canon openly says that the Wolkenritter was able to rebirth good as new even if their flesh and bones are torn appart(a past Arc of BTF has Vita doing exactly this as her face was basically ripped appart by some guys who captured her). I think it work well if the reason of why Signum's injuries can't be regenerated is alluded more to the fact that she's now human(the wolks become human in BTF-verse) and thus, resurrection magic is inaccesible for her.
** I think you mean that Resurrection magic works for her as well as for any human.

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** Signum didn't know about Rumble Detonator at the time time, raising the question about why she didn't ignited Laevatein, ignite Laevatein; Shidden Issen is not a small spark, is it's a spiral stream of flames that allows Signum slice through barriers and heavy heavily armored foes. If anything it could been a good method to get Cinque's hand out of the way(even way (even if the cyborg have has a HealingFactor, the regeneration isn't instantaneous and the time she takes to regenerate could've allowed Signum to make distance and rethink her battle approach, not to mention the crippling pain Cinque experience everytime experiences every time she do that. regenerates. About Panzergeist, while it's true the it seems to be casted cast with Laevatein's assistance, it doesn't need a cartridge at all, go watch Nanoha all (as seen in A's Ep. 2 again for confirmation.
ep. 2).
*** My guess, Signum didn't want to cause severe injuries as she knew the last time a Chaos power user(Nanoha user (Nanoha herself) got severly severely injured, really bad things tend to happen. And regarding Panzergeist, I doubt it would have made a difference anyway. This is Chaos magic, the power behind the spells like the Ragna Blade that can tear through dimensions.
* There's a popular guessing that theorizes Laevatein isn't really made of real metal metal, as devices Devices in reality are magical constructs made of mana shapped shaped into a solid substance substance, which will make Rumble Detonator's effect unusable on those(and those (and also could explain why Cinque just didn't blowed blow up all the devices Devices she faced on the canon series). canon). But seeing as BTF works by it's its own set of rules i rules, I wonder if Laevantine can be considered a legitimally legitimately real metal sword in this verse, it verse. It sucks for her at this moment moment, but if Laevatein is a true sword that could give an entire new dimension to her future fight against Cypha(should Cypha (should the writer decide to include that in his cannon).
canon).
** Signum was one of the many in the TSAB now with the Blaster Metal upgrade (which she was using in this fight anyway). Her Device, if it didn't have physical material in the blade, probably does now.
* According to Chapter 50, Resurrection magic can't regenerate lost body parts parts, but canon openly says that the Wolkenritter was were able to rebirth be recreated good as new even if their flesh and bones are torn appart(a appart (a past Arc of BTF has Vita doing exactly this as after her face was basically ripped appart apart by some guys who captured her). I think it would work well if the reason of why behind Signum's injuries can't be regenerated not regenerating is alluded more to the fact that she's now human(the wolks human (the Wolks become human in BTF-verse) and thus, resurrection magic is inaccesible for inaccessible to her.
** I think you mean that Resurrection magic works just as well for her as well as it does for any human.
12th Jan '12 9:26:47 PM GoldenDarkness
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*** My guess, Signum didn't want to cause severe injuries as she knew the last time Chaos power user(Nanoha herself) got severly injured, really bad things tend to happen. And regarding Panzergeist, I doubt it would have made a difference anyway. This is Chaos magic, the power behind the spells like the Ragna Blade that can tear through dimensions.



* According to Chapter 50, Resurrection magic can't regenerate lost body parts but canon openly says that the Wolkenritter was able to rebirth good as new even if their flesh and bones are torn appart(a past Arc of BTF has Vita doing exactly this as her face was basically ripped appart by some guys who captured her). I think it work well if the reason of why Signum's injuries can't be regenerated is alluded more to the fact that she's now human(the wolks become human in BTF-verse) and thus, resurrection magic is inaccesible for her.

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** Signum was one of the many in the TSAB now with the Blaster Metal upgrade (which she was using in this fight anyway). Her Device, if it didn't have physical material in the blade, probably does now.
* According to Chapter 50, Resurrection magic can't regenerate lost body parts but canon openly says that the Wolkenritter was able to rebirth good as new even if their flesh and bones are torn appart(a past Arc of BTF has Vita doing exactly this as her face was basically ripped appart by some guys who captured her). I think it work well if the reason of why Signum's injuries can't be regenerated is alluded more to the fact that she's now human(the wolks become human in BTF-verse) and thus, resurrection magic is inaccesible for her.her.
** I think you mean that Resurrection magic works for her as well as for any human.
12th Jan '12 5:34:50 PM Akiyoshi
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* There's a popular guessing that theorizes Laevatein isn't really made of real metal as devices in reality are magical constructs made of mana shapped into solid substance which will make Rumble Detonator's effect unusable on those(and also could explain why Cinque just didn't blowed up all the devices she faced on the canon series). But seeing as BTF works by it's own set of rules i wonder if Laevantine can be considered a legitimally real metal sword in this verse, it sucks for her at this moment but if Laevatein is a true sword that could give an entire new dimension to her future fight against Cypha(should the writer decide to include that in his cannon).

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* There's a popular guessing that theorizes Laevatein isn't really made of real metal as devices in reality are magical constructs made of mana shapped into solid substance which will make Rumble Detonator's effect unusable on those(and also could explain why Cinque just didn't blowed up all the devices she faced on the canon series). But seeing as BTF works by it's own set of rules i wonder if Laevantine can be considered a legitimally real metal sword in this verse, it sucks for her at this moment but if Laevatein is a true sword that could give an entire new dimension to her future fight against Cypha(should the writer decide to include that in his cannon).cannon).
* According to Chapter 50, Resurrection magic can't regenerate lost body parts but canon openly says that the Wolkenritter was able to rebirth good as new even if their flesh and bones are torn appart(a past Arc of BTF has Vita doing exactly this as her face was basically ripped appart by some guys who captured her). I think it work well if the reason of why Signum's injuries can't be regenerated is alluded more to the fact that she's now human(the wolks become human in BTF-verse) and thus, resurrection magic is inaccesible for her.
12th Jan '12 12:30:07 PM Akiyoshi
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** Because becoming a genuine threat to someone with Chaos magic works out so well, doesn't it?

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** Because becoming * There's a genuine threat to someone with Chaos magic popular guessing that theorizes Laevatein isn't really made of real metal as devices in reality are magical constructs made of mana shapped into solid substance which will make Rumble Detonator's effect unusable on those(and also could explain why Cinque just didn't blowed up all the devices she faced on the canon series). But seeing as BTF works out so well, doesn't it?by it's own set of rules i wonder if Laevantine can be considered a legitimally real metal sword in this verse, it sucks for her at this moment but if Laevatein is a true sword that could give an entire new dimension to her future fight against Cypha(should the writer decide to include that in his cannon).
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