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** Alternatively, her red outfit could also be seen as her attempting CoordinatedClothes with Robin as another attempt to seduce him and make it appear she's in love with him, since her red outfit and black pants matches the same colors as Robin's costume.
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"Follow suit". It's a term from card games.


* The collection of bizarre themed gangs at the street race makes sense in terms of how crime has been evolving in Gotham throughout the previous three movies: As the mob from the first movie dissolved and supervillains with eccentric gimmicks began to become the norm and enjoyed brief but stylish and successful reigns of terror, it would stand to reason that the rest of the underworld was encouraged to follow suite in attempts to be [[BigBadWannabe the next top dog]] as flashy, high profile gangsters themselves.

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* The collection of bizarre themed gangs at the street race makes sense in terms of how crime has been evolving in Gotham throughout the previous three movies: As the mob from the first movie dissolved and supervillains with eccentric gimmicks began to become the norm and enjoyed brief but stylish and successful reigns of terror, it would stand to reason that the rest of the underworld was encouraged to follow suite suit in attempts to be [[BigBadWannabe the next top dog]] as flashy, high profile gangsters themselves.
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* The movie is much more enjoyable if you watch it as a SpiritualSequel to the campy [[Series/Batman1966 1960s version of Batman]] with Creator/AdamWest.
** It's also much more palatable to watch it as another goofy Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger action flick like ''Film/TheRunningMan'' or ''[[Film/TotalRecall1990 Total Recall]]''.
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** One could also see her outfit changes as representative of the seasons. Her initial outfit is spring and represents her birth, literally sprouting from the earth full of newfound power and potential. Her green outfit represents summer and shows her at her best, manipulating and killing everyone she comes across. Her red outfit is fall, beautiful but signals the end of her reign. Then her final is winter with her ruined, broken and facing a literal freeze.
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* Poison Ivy's constant changing appearance and various outfits aren't random, they represent the life cycle of a plant. When she first gains her powers her clothes are torn and she sprouts out of the ground like a new sapling, from then one her various costumes begin to make her more beautiful like a plant growing up and gaining strength. Her final outfit, which she wore when she seduced Robin in her lair, represent her full strength and most beautiful appearance, like a flower that has fully bloomed. Alternatively, the red color of her outfit could symbolize autumn, appropriate since she is at this point anticipating Freeze's apocalyptic winter. Her appearance in Arkham after her defeat is like a withered plant, representing how she is broken and how Freeze promises to make her life a "living hell".

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* Poison Ivy's constant changing appearance and various outfits aren't random, they represent the life cycle of a plant. When she first gains her powers her clothes are torn and she sprouts out of the ground like a new sapling, from then one on her various costumes begin to make her more beautiful like a plant growing up and gaining strength. Her final outfit, which she wore when she seduced Robin in her lair, represent her full strength and most beautiful appearance, like a flower that has fully bloomed. Alternatively, the red color of her outfit could symbolize autumn, appropriate since she is at this point anticipating Freeze's apocalyptic winter. Her appearance in Arkham after her defeat is like a withered plant, representing how she is broken and how Freeze promises to make her life a "living hell".
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* Poison Ivy's constant changing appearance and various outfits aren't random, they represent the life cycle of a plant. When she first gains her powers her clothes are torn and she sprouts out of the ground like a new sapling, from then one her various costumes begin to make her more beautiful like a plant growing up and gaining strength. Her final outfit, which she wore when she seduced Robin in her lair, represent her full strength and most beautiful appearance, like a flower that has fully bloomed. Her appearance in Arkham after her defeat is like a withered plant, representing how she is broken and how Freeze promises to make her life a "living hell".

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* Poison Ivy's constant changing appearance and various outfits aren't random, they represent the life cycle of a plant. When she first gains her powers her clothes are torn and she sprouts out of the ground like a new sapling, from then one her various costumes begin to make her more beautiful like a plant growing up and gaining strength. Her final outfit, which she wore when she seduced Robin in her lair, represent her full strength and most beautiful appearance, like a flower that has fully bloomed. Alternatively, the red color of her outfit could symbolize autumn, appropriate since she is at this point anticipating Freeze's apocalyptic winter. Her appearance in Arkham after her defeat is like a withered plant, representing how she is broken and how Freeze promises to make her life a "living hell".
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** This also explains why Bruce, who is shown to be in a long term but ultimately superficial relationship, is only slightly affected- he's not interested in sex or romance anymore as serious priorities.

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** It's also much more palatable to watch it as another goofy Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger action flick like ''Film/TheRunningMan'' or ''[[Film/TotalRecall1990 Total Recall]]''.




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* The collection of bizarre themed gangs at the street race makes sense in terms of how crime has been evolving in Gotham throughout the previous three movies: As the mob from the first movie dissolved and supervillains with eccentric gimmicks began to become the norm and enjoyed brief but stylish and successful reigns of terror, it would stand to reason that the rest of the underworld was encouraged to follow suite in attempts to be [[BigBadWannabe the next top dog]] as flashy, high profile gangsters themselves.
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* The song "Gotham City" describes Gotham as the city Batman hopes it would become and one he's fighting for.
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* The movie is much more enjoyable if you watch it as a SpiritualSequel to the campy [[Series/{{Batman}} 1960s version of Batman]] with Creator/AdamWest.

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* The movie is much more enjoyable if you watch it as a SpiritualSequel to the campy [[Series/{{Batman}} [[Series/Batman1966 1960s version of Batman]] with Creator/AdamWest.
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* Poison Ivy's constant changing appearance and various outfits aren't random, they represent the life cycle of a plant. When she first gains her powers her clothes are torn and she sprouts out of the ground like a new sapling, from then one her various costumes begin to make her more beautiful like a plant growing up and gaining strength. Her final outfit, which she wore when she seduced Robin in her lair, represent her full strength and most beautiful appearance, like a flower that has fully bloomed. Her appearance in Arkham after her defeat is like a withered plant, representing how she is broken and how Freeze promises to make her life a "living hell".
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** Also, while it's still not foolproof, their plan may have been to be more on guard and proactive in spotting Freeze before he gets inside, had Ivy not shown up and distracted them.

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** *** Also, while it's still not foolproof, their plan may have been to be involved being more on guard and proactive in spotting Freeze before he gets inside, had Ivy not shown up and distracted them.
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** Then again, while it's still not foolproof, their plan may have been to be more on guard and proactive in spotting Freeze before he gets inside, had Ivy not shown up and distracted them.

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** Then again, Also, while it's still not foolproof, their plan may have been to be more on guard and proactive in spotting Freeze before he gets inside, had Ivy not shown up and distracted them.
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*** Then again, considering this is [[CrazyPrepared Batman]] we're talking about, it's not a stretch to imagine he might've provided such devices for the [=GPD=].

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*** Then again, considering this is [[CrazyPrepared Batman]] we're talking about, it's not a stretch to imagine he might've provided such devices for the [=GPD=].[=GPD=].
** Then again, while it's still not foolproof, their plan may have been to be more on guard and proactive in spotting Freeze before he gets inside, had Ivy not shown up and distracted them.

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** Although he didn't mention it: A credit card is faster to use than a check[[note]]even if Batman wrote amounts on checks beforehand and let people keep the change, he'd still have to write who the check is to each time he paid for something with one - and that would also give his enemies a way of tracking him[[/note]], and carrying one would be more practical than carrying around large amounts of cash in small bills.

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** Although he didn't mention it: A credit card is faster to use than a check[[note]]even if Batman wrote typed amounts on checks beforehand and let people keep the change, he'd still have to write who the check is to each time he paid for something with one - and that would also give his enemies a way of tracking him[[/note]], and carrying one would be more practical than carrying around large amounts of cash in small bills.
bills. Plus, if the card gets stolen, he can merely cancel it, whereas he can't do anything about stolen bills, and it's a lot harder to stop a check.



** Not to mention Batman's stern "You have 11 minutes to thaw these people!" line he feeds to the overwhelmed Commissioner Gordon in the aftermath of the attack. This troper highly doubts that the GPD has any sort of portable, powerful heating devices to thaw the Gothamites out in time. Nice going, Bats.

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** Not to mention Batman's stern "You have 11 minutes to thaw these people!" line he feeds to the overwhelmed Commissioner Gordon in the aftermath of the attack. This troper highly doubts that the GPD has any sort of portable, powerful heating devices to thaw the Gothamites out in time. Nice going, Bats.Bats.
*** Then again, considering this is [[CrazyPrepared Batman]] we're talking about, it's not a stretch to imagine he might've provided such devices for the [=GPD=].

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* As [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]] pointed out in his review of the comic, the infamous "Bat Credit Card" actually makes a lot of sense when you stop to think about it.
** Bruce Wayne is rich, and uses shell companies to funnel that money for crime fighting. It would be a lot harder to trace a corporate credit card than it would be to trace a card linked to an individual.
** In other media, he's been shown needing to purchase things that he wouldn't normally carry on him (with the examples Linkara gave being diapers and coffee), meaning he'd need some way to pay for those items (and it would be too suspicious if he put it on a tab and paid it himself[=/=]had an employee of his pay it later).
** He has a habit of customizing his crime-fighting arsenal around the bat motif - Batmobile, Batarangs, etc. It would be more jarring if he ''didn't'' extend this to something like a credit card.
** Although he didn't mention it: A credit card is faster to use than a check[[note]]even if Batman wrote amounts on checks beforehand and let people keep the change, he'd still have to write who the check is to each time he paid for something with one - and that would also give his enemies a way of tracking him[[/note]], and carrying one would be more practical than carrying around large amounts of cash in small bills.

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