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* During the scene before Marley's first appearance, the book says every bell in the house started ringing and many film depictions show a line of servant bells, attached to various other rooms via pull-cords.This means that Scrooge is living in the large house Marley had owned, but staying in the servants' quarters. Why? Simply be cause there is room enough for him, and it would be cheaper to heat than one of the "master of the house" rooms.

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* During the scene before Marley's first appearance, the book says every bell in the house started ringing and many film depictions show a line of servant bells, attached to various other rooms via pull-cords.This means that Scrooge is living in the large house Marley had owned, but staying in the servants' quarters. Why? Simply be cause because there is room enough for him, and it would be cheaper to heat than one of the "master of the house" rooms.



** This is made worse if you know the full speech given by the ghost. In the book, after the ghost echoes Scrooges words back at him, as asks who he (Scrooge) is that he can decide who and what the surpluses population is, and wraps up by telling him that in the eyes of heaven, it may be that Scrooge is less fit to live then Tiny Tim.

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** This is made worse if you know the full speech given by the ghost. In the book, after the ghost echoes Scrooges Scrooge's words back at him, as it asks who he (Scrooge) is that he can decide who and what the surpluses surplus population is, and wraps up by telling him that in the eyes of heaven, it may be that Scrooge is less fit to live then Tiny Tim.



* Meta example, because it only happens in ShowWithinAShow adaptations: there's a HopeSpot towards the end where Tiny Tim walks without his crutches (becomes an ExaggeratedTrope in {{Film/Scrooged}} where Olympic Gold Medalist [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Lou_Retton Mary Lou Retton]] does a flippin' ''gymnastics routine''). This is before the dirt-poor Cratchit's learn of Scrooge's HeelFaceTurn which could mean his death in the BadFuture wasn't from SoapOperaDisease, but being forced by necessity to take a factory job that, at the time, was known for unsafe working conditions.

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* Meta example, because it only happens in ShowWithinAShow adaptations: there's a HopeSpot towards the end where Tiny Tim walks without his crutches (becomes an ExaggeratedTrope in {{Film/Scrooged}} where Olympic Gold Medalist [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Lou_Retton Mary Lou Retton]] does a flippin' ''gymnastics routine''). This is before the dirt-poor Cratchit's Cratchits learn of Scrooge's HeelFaceTurn which could mean his death in the BadFuture wasn't from SoapOperaDisease, but being forced by necessity to take a factory job that, at the time, was known for unsafe working conditions.



* In the BadFuture, Scrooge's possessions are pawned off by the undertaker and one of Scrooge's servants. While stealing the possession of the dead man is bad enough, what if those people actually ''killed'' Scrooge? He was so hated, not only would people kill him just to rob his stuff, but no one would actually care if he was murdered.

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* In the BadFuture, Scrooge's possessions are pawned off by the undertaker and one of Scrooge's servants. While stealing the possession possessions of the dead man is bad enough, what if those people actually ''killed'' Scrooge? He was so hated, not only would people kill him just to rob his stuff, but no one would actually care if he was murdered.
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** To add to this: The BadFuture scenes dealing with Tiny Tim's death and Scrooge's death don't necessarily take place at the same Christmas. The narrator writes that they seem to take place in no particular order, save that they're all in the future. Based on the Ghost of Christmas Present's prediction, the Tiny Tim scene takes place only a year in the future, but since the ending seems to imply that Scrooge lives quite a while longer after his redemption, the scenes dealing with his own death might take place many years later. We also learn that in this dark timeline, Fred learns about Tiny Tim's death soon after it happens. Maybe this explains why Fred finally stopped reaching out to his uncle in this timeline, and why not even he looked after him in his final illness or mourned his death.
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** There's an additional HopeSpot in Fred's appearance. While in the moment it's the young man's kindness and sincere devastation at the news of a child's death that means the most to Bob, Fred also did something very generous. He offered his uncle's clerk a business card--very much a Victorian duty-of-care gesture. As Martha points out, that's all but an explicit offer to get Peter a better-paying job or even a true apprenticeship, if not Bob himself; the kind of thing that could single-handedly lift the family out of the desperate poverty that just killed Tiny Tim. The Cratchits, even in the bad future, are no longer alone.
*** This is even something that would have been obvious to Scrooge, and a terrible condemnation. Much like the little family for whom his death was their salvation, it would mark Scrooge as an ''utter'' failure as a man and an employer that his clerk's family only began receiving the benefits of ''his own societal connections'' once he was dead and out of the way, and his sister's son was free to step in.
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*** This is actually rather unlikely, fortunately for Scrooge. Dickens write the story in 1843 and if we assume it took place in that year, the "resurrection" business was essentially over by then. The Anatomy Act of 1832 helped to end it, as well as the incredibly bad reputation of body sellers. Scotland had seen a rash of murders in 1828 by two fellows named Burke and Hare, who ran a boardinghouse and found that getting their lodgers drunk, murdering them, and selling the corpses paid a lot better than innkeeping. The public eventually found the practice of purchasing bodies utterly vile, and it died out by the time Dickens wrote A Christmas Carol. Besides that, the person selling Scrooge's stuff was "the undertaker's man", i.e., his assistant, not the undertaker himself, and could not have pilfered Scrooge's corpse without being caught.
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* Scrooge's miserliness isn't just kind of offputting, but it had serious consequences: he paid his clerk too poorly to be able to keep Tiny Tim alive, he refused to give charities that would help the poor, and believed the poor would die. While Scrooge isn't the worst guy on Earth and isn't ''actively'' cruel, [[LackOfEmpathy he sees the suffering in the world as less important than his bottom line]]. If Jacob Marley was the same way, it is no wonder he has been tormented in the afterlife: ignoring suffering can be just as bad as causing it.

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** Just to cap it off, the fact that an ''undertaker'' was among the posthumous looters could well imply that it wasn't just Scrooge's bedclothes that were sold off. Body snatching for medical colleges was a thriving black-market industry in Britain at the time, and the cadaver of an old man nobody would miss could fetch a good price. The grave Scrooge is shown at the end of his Christmas Future journey ''may have been empty.''
* Scrooge's miserliness isn't just kind of offputting, off-putting, but it had serious consequences: he paid his clerk too poorly to be able to keep Tiny Tim alive, he refused to give charities that would help the poor, and believed the poor would die. While Scrooge isn't the worst guy on Earth and isn't ''actively'' cruel, [[LackOfEmpathy he sees the suffering in the world as less important than his bottom line]]. If Jacob Marley was the same way, it is no wonder he has been tormented in the afterlife: ignoring suffering can be just as bad as causing it.
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** He did not just eat gruel though. The story says that he had a cheap pub dinner before going home and having the gruel.

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** He did not just eat gruel though. The story says that he had a cheap pub dinner before going home and having the gruel.gruel because he has a cold.
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* There's a very subtle bit of Fridge Brilliance hidden in Fred's Christmas party. Fred's wife is described as taking part in all the word games and the music, but not in any games that involve physical activity, such as blind man's buff. Instead, during those games, she settles in the corner with a comfy chair and enjoys the fun going on around her. On Christmas Day, when the reformed Scrooge shows up at their home for dinner, he comes upon them putting the last few touches on their table, and startles Fred's wife. Scrooge mentally kicks himself for startling his niece, remembering how she sat out the blind man's buff game in the corner. Of course, she wasn't to exert herself physically, and shouldn't have been startled...Dickens is indicating, in the most Victorian-approved way possible, that she is pregnant!
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* During the scene before Marley's first appearance, the book says every bell in the house started ringing and many film depictions show a line of servant bells, attached to various other rooms via pull-cords.This means that Scrooge is living in the large house Marley had owned, but staying in the servants' quarters. Why? Simply be cause there is room enough for him, and it would be cheaper to heat than one of the "master of the house" rooms.

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* It might seem confusing, that with the present unaltered, Scrooge would have been dead by next Christmas (assuming that the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come moved only one year forward), but the ending implies that he lived for many more years. However, having a looser, more relaxed lease on life, as reformed Scrooge did, can lead to lower blood-pressure, being less likely to suffer from strokes and heart attacks, and overall improved health. Going further, the cause of his death in the unaltered timeline was not his age as one might have thought. It could have been anything from his high blood-pressure to the stress on his heart, to living in an unheated house and eating nothing but cheap gruel. Marley really did give Scrooge a second chance; by prolonging his life to give him more time to repent.

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** He did not just eat gruel though. The story says that he had a cheap pub dinner before going home and having the gruel.
* It might seem confusing, that with the present unaltered, Scrooge would have been dead by next Christmas (assuming that the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come moved only one year forward), but the ending implies that he lived for many more years. However, having a looser, more relaxed lease on life, as reformed Scrooge did, can lead to lower blood-pressure, being less likely to suffer from strokes and heart attacks, and overall improved health. Going further, the cause of his death in the unaltered timeline was not his age as one might have thought. It could have been anything from his high blood-pressure to the stress on his heart, to living in an unheated house and eating nothing but cheap gruel.food. Marley really did give Scrooge a second chance; by prolonging his life to give him more time to repent.
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* There is another symbolism of Marley’s chains as they have associations of imprisonment. At the time of the novel was published, people could go to debtors prison for their unpaid debts. Marley and Scrooge’s job probably involved sending their clients to debtors prison, if they can’t pay back the money they owe them. In a way Marley’s punishment is [[ATasteOfTheirOwnMedicine a constant reminder of the suffering of the people that he had sent to prison.]]

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* There is another symbolism of Marley’s chains as they have associations of imprisonment. At the time of the novel was published, people could go to debtors prison for their unpaid debts. Marley and Scrooge’s job probably involved sending their clients to debtors prison, if they can’t pay back the money they owe them. In a way Marley’s punishment is [[ATasteOfTheirOwnMedicine a constant reminder of the suffering of the people that he had sent to prison.]]
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* There is another symbolism of Marley’s chains as they have associations of imprisonment. At the time of the novel was published, people could go to debtors prison for their unpaid debts. Marley and Scrooge’s job probably involved sending their clients to debtors prison, if they can’t pay back the money they owe them. In a way Marley’s punishment is [[ATasteOfTheirOwnMedicine a constant reminder of the suffering of people that he had sent to prison.]]

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* There is another symbolism of Marley’s chains as they have associations of imprisonment. At the time of the novel was published, people could go to debtors prison for their unpaid debts. Marley and Scrooge’s job probably involved sending their clients to debtors prison, if they can’t pay back the money they owe them. In a way Marley’s punishment is [[ATasteOfTheirOwnMedicine a constant reminder of the suffering of the people that he had sent to prison.]]
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* Meta example, because it only happens in ShowWithinAShow adaptations: there's a HopeSpot towards the end where Tiny Tim walks without his crutches (becomes an ExaggeratedTrope in {{Film/Scrooged}} where Olympic Gold Medalist [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Lou_Retton Mary Lou Retton]] does a [[JustForPun flippin']] ''gymnastics routine''). This is before the dirt-poor Cratchit's learn of Scrooge's HeelFaceTurn which could mean his death in the BadFuture wasn't from SoapOperaDisease, but being forced by necessity to take a factory job that, at the time, was known for unsafe working conditions.

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* Meta example, because it only happens in ShowWithinAShow adaptations: there's a HopeSpot towards the end where Tiny Tim walks without his crutches (becomes an ExaggeratedTrope in {{Film/Scrooged}} where Olympic Gold Medalist [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Lou_Retton Mary Lou Retton]] does a [[JustForPun flippin']] flippin' ''gymnastics routine''). This is before the dirt-poor Cratchit's learn of Scrooge's HeelFaceTurn which could mean his death in the BadFuture wasn't from SoapOperaDisease, but being forced by necessity to take a factory job that, at the time, was known for unsafe working conditions.

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