History Fridge / AChristmasCarol

9th Jun '17 9:43:39 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* The ghosts (depending on the adaptation) often bear some semblance to either Ebenezer himself, or to the aspect of Scrooge's life they represent: the candle/glowing figure of the past is indistinct yet bright, because he does not wish to remember the past yet cannot forget it; the large and boisterous ghost of the present often either somewhat looks like a "jolly fat" version of Scrooge or otherwise depicts what a man with his life could be doing if he had the Christmas spirit; so why does the ghost of the future not just look "shadowy and indistinct" but rather ''explicitly'' like the GrimReaper? Well, when you're Scrooge's age, especially in that time frame, there's really only one thing you can expect in the future...

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* The ghosts (depending on the adaptation) often bear some semblance to either Ebenezer himself, or to the aspect of Scrooge's life they represent: the candle/glowing figure of the past is indistinct yet bright, because he does not wish to remember the past yet cannot forget it; the large and boisterous ghost of the present often either somewhat looks like a "jolly fat" version of Scrooge or otherwise depicts what a man with his life could be doing if he had the Christmas spirit; so why does the ghost of the future not just look "shadowy and indistinct" but rather ''explicitly'' like the GrimReaper? TheGrimReaper? Well, when you're Scrooge's age, especially in that time frame, there's really only one thing you can expect in the future...
1st Jun '17 4:05:34 AM StarTropes
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* Pointed out elsewhere on this wiki, and pertaining to Scrooge's line how if the poor are going to die, "they had better do it and decrease the surplus population" (which has already been thrown back in his face by the Ghost of Christmas Present). When the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come shows him the Cratchit family mourning Tiny Tim's death, that line is probably still in his mind. What must he be thinking?
30th Dec '16 11:00:02 PM pwiegle
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* It might seem confusing, that with the present unaltered, Scrooge would have been dead by next Christmas, but the ending implies that he lived for many more years.However, having a looser, more relaxed lease on life, as reformed Scrooge did, can lead to lower blood-pressure, being less likely to suffer from strokes and heart attacks, and overall improved health. Going further, the course of his death in the unaltered timeline was not his age as one might have thought. It could have been anything from his high blood-pressure to the stress on his heart. Marley really did give Scrooge a second chance; by prolonging his life to give him more time to repent.

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* It might seem confusing, that with the present unaltered, Scrooge would have been dead by next Christmas, but the ending implies that he lived for many more years. However, having a looser, more relaxed lease on life, as reformed Scrooge did, can lead to lower blood-pressure, being less likely to suffer from strokes and heart attacks, and overall improved health. Going further, the course cause of his death in the unaltered timeline was not his age as one might have thought. It could have been anything from his high blood-pressure to the stress on his heart.heart, to living in an unheated house and eating nothing but cheap gruel. Marley really did give Scrooge a second chance; by prolonging his life to give him more time to repent.
24th Dec '16 7:24:20 PM SteveMB
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* If Scrooge was such a wealthy man, holed up all by himself in a dusty old house without servants, and had made himself so deeply hated by the substantial fraction of the city's population that owed him money, why ''wasn't'' he robbed and/or murdered, ages ago? He won't even pay for enough coal to keep his accountant's ink from freezing, so it doesn't seem likely he'd hire a security agency to keep an eye on his house, or shell out dues to a neighborhood vigilance committee. Never mind ghosts: you'd think ''some'' burglar would bust into his home or counting-house to lighten his future burden of cashbox-chains, or an irate debtor with nothing to lose would kick down his door and pound the old grouch into paste upon receiving their final eviction notice.

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* If Scrooge was such a wealthy man, holed up all by himself in a dusty old house without servants, and had made himself so deeply hated by the substantial fraction of the city's population that owed him money, why ''wasn't'' he robbed and/or murdered, ages ago? He won't even pay for enough coal to keep his accountant's ink from freezing, so it doesn't seem likely he'd hire a security agency to keep an eye on his house, or shell out dues to a neighborhood vigilance committee. Never mind ghosts: you'd think ''some'' burglar would bust into his home or counting-house to lighten his future burden of cashbox-chains, or an irate debtor with nothing to lose would kick down his door and pound the old grouch into paste upon receiving their final eviction notice.notice.
** Scrooge is as stingy about spending money on his own comfort as he is about everything else, so his house doesn't really have much worth stealing -- enough for a bit of easy opportunistic post-mortem looting by the servants who found his body, but not worth the greater trouble and risk of breaking in and burglarizing the place. As for his business, it isn't described in enough detail to say whether or not there would be cash or portable valuables on site. His money would be in the bank, which isn't an easy target.
21st Dec '16 1:04:02 PM Sharlee
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* If Scrooge was such a wealthy man, holed up all by himself in a dusty old house without servants, and had made himself so deeply hated by the substantial fraction of the city's population that owed him money, why ''wasn't'' he robbed and/or murdered, ages ago? He won't even pay for enough coal to keep his accountant's ink from freezing, so it doesn't seem likely he'd hire a security agency to keep an eye on his house, or shell out dues to a neighborhood vigilance society. Never mind ghosts: you'd think ''some'' burglar would bust into his home or counting-house to lighten his future burden of cashbox-chains, or an irate debtor with nothing to lose would kick down his door and pound the old grouch into paste upon receiving their final eviction notice.

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* If Scrooge was such a wealthy man, holed up all by himself in a dusty old house without servants, and had made himself so deeply hated by the substantial fraction of the city's population that owed him money, why ''wasn't'' he robbed and/or murdered, ages ago? He won't even pay for enough coal to keep his accountant's ink from freezing, so it doesn't seem likely he'd hire a security agency to keep an eye on his house, or shell out dues to a neighborhood vigilance society.committee. Never mind ghosts: you'd think ''some'' burglar would bust into his home or counting-house to lighten his future burden of cashbox-chains, or an irate debtor with nothing to lose would kick down his door and pound the old grouch into paste upon receiving their final eviction notice.
21st Dec '16 1:02:40 PM Sharlee
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* If Scrooge was such a wealthy man, holed up all by himself in a dusty old house without servants, and had made himself so deeply hated by the substantial fraction of the city's population that owed him money, why ''wasn't'' he robbed and/or murdered, ages ago? He won't even pay for enough coal to keep his accountant's ink from freezing, so it doesn't seem likely he'd hire a security agency to keep an eye on his house, or shell out dues to a neighborhood vigilance society. Never mind ghosts: you'd think ''some'' burglar would bust into his home or counting-house to lighten his future burden of cashbox-chains, or an irate debtor would kick down his door and pound the guy into paste upon receiving their final eviction notice.

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* If Scrooge was such a wealthy man, holed up all by himself in a dusty old house without servants, and had made himself so deeply hated by the substantial fraction of the city's population that owed him money, why ''wasn't'' he robbed and/or murdered, ages ago? He won't even pay for enough coal to keep his accountant's ink from freezing, so it doesn't seem likely he'd hire a security agency to keep an eye on his house, or shell out dues to a neighborhood vigilance society. Never mind ghosts: you'd think ''some'' burglar would bust into his home or counting-house to lighten his future burden of cashbox-chains, or an irate debtor with nothing to lose would kick down his door and pound the guy old grouch into paste upon receiving their final eviction notice.
21st Dec '16 1:02:12 PM Sharlee
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* If Scrooge was such a wealthy man, holed up all by himself in a dusty old house without servants, and had made himself so deeply hated by the substantial fraction of the city's population that owed him money, why ''wasn't'' he robbed and/or murdered, ages ago? He won't even pay for enough coal to keep his accountant's ink from freezing, so it doesn't seem likely he'd hire a security agency to keep an eye on his house, or shell out dues to a neighborhood vigilance society. Never mind ghosts, you'd think ''some'' burglar would bust into his home or counting-house to lighten his future burden of cashbox-chains, or that some irate debtor would kick down his door and pound him into paste upon receiving their final eviction notice.

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* If Scrooge was such a wealthy man, holed up all by himself in a dusty old house without servants, and had made himself so deeply hated by the substantial fraction of the city's population that owed him money, why ''wasn't'' he robbed and/or murdered, ages ago? He won't even pay for enough coal to keep his accountant's ink from freezing, so it doesn't seem likely he'd hire a security agency to keep an eye on his house, or shell out dues to a neighborhood vigilance society. Never mind ghosts, ghosts: you'd think ''some'' burglar would bust into his home or counting-house to lighten his future burden of cashbox-chains, or that some an irate debtor would kick down his door and pound him the guy into paste upon receiving their final eviction notice.
21st Dec '16 1:01:05 PM Sharlee
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* If Scrooge was such a wealthy man, holed up all by himself in a dusty old house without servants, and had made himself so deeply hated by the substantial fraction of the city's population that owed him money, why ''wasn't'' he robbed and murdered, ages ago? He won't even pay for enough coal to keep his accountant's ink from freezing, so it doesn't seem likely he'd hire a security agency to keep an eye on his house, or shell out dues to a neighborhood vigilance society.

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* If Scrooge was such a wealthy man, holed up all by himself in a dusty old house without servants, and had made himself so deeply hated by the substantial fraction of the city's population that owed him money, why ''wasn't'' he robbed and and/or murdered, ages ago? He won't even pay for enough coal to keep his accountant's ink from freezing, so it doesn't seem likely he'd hire a security agency to keep an eye on his house, or shell out dues to a neighborhood vigilance society.society. Never mind ghosts, you'd think ''some'' burglar would bust into his home or counting-house to lighten his future burden of cashbox-chains, or that some irate debtor would kick down his door and pound him into paste upon receiving their final eviction notice.
21st Dec '16 12:58:10 PM Sharlee
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** It's mentioned in the dialogue between the people who'd robbed his death chamber: he got sick all alone in his locked-up house, and didn't have anyone there to care for him. Presumably there were indications that he'd been ill, like dried-up vomit next to his bed, that Dickens [[VomitIndiscretionShot didn't think it fitting to describe]] in the middle of a Christmas story. Once Scrooge reformed, he'd have had plenty of friends to check up on his welfare during the winter, and hired on servants so as to make his dismal old house into a warm, welcoming place.

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** It's mentioned in the dialogue between the people who'd robbed his death chamber: he got sick all alone in his locked-up house, and didn't have anyone there to care for him. Presumably there were indications that he'd been ill, like dried-up vomit next to his bed, that Dickens [[VomitIndiscretionShot didn't think it fitting to describe]] in the middle of a Christmas story. Once Scrooge reformed, he'd have had plenty of friends to check up on his welfare during the winter, and hired on servants so as to make his dismal old house into a warm, welcoming place.place.
* If Scrooge was such a wealthy man, holed up all by himself in a dusty old house without servants, and had made himself so deeply hated by the substantial fraction of the city's population that owed him money, why ''wasn't'' he robbed and murdered, ages ago? He won't even pay for enough coal to keep his accountant's ink from freezing, so it doesn't seem likely he'd hire a security agency to keep an eye on his house, or shell out dues to a neighborhood vigilance society.
21st Dec '16 12:52:46 PM Sharlee
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** It's mentioned in the dialogue between the people who'd robbed his death chamber: he got sick all alone in his locked-up house, and didn't have anyone there to care for him. Presumably there were indications that he'd been ill, like dried-up vomit next to his bed, that Dickens [[VomitIndiscretionShot didn't think it fitting to describe]] in the middle of a Christmas story.

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** It's mentioned in the dialogue between the people who'd robbed his death chamber: he got sick all alone in his locked-up house, and didn't have anyone there to care for him. Presumably there were indications that he'd been ill, like dried-up vomit next to his bed, that Dickens [[VomitIndiscretionShot didn't think it fitting to describe]] in the middle of a Christmas story. Once Scrooge reformed, he'd have had plenty of friends to check up on his welfare during the winter, and hired on servants so as to make his dismal old house into a warm, welcoming place.
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