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** Cersei's hatred for Robert stems from him using her as a ReplacementGoldfish for Lyanna, to say nothing of his other ugly traits.
12th Jul '17 3:56:52 PM gb00393
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** Tywin Lannister's father Tytos was a weak man whose forgiving nature was mocked and exploited so frequently that it nearly brought ruin to their House, leaving Tywin to restore the power and glory of his family by any means necessary. Later, his beloved wife died in childbirth and his decades of loyal service as Hand of the King were rewarded with suspicion and derision by his increasingly mad former friend King Aerys II.

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** The reason why Tywin Lannister's Lannister is such a hardass is because his father Tytos was a weak man whose forgiving nature was mocked and exploited so frequently that it nearly brought bankruptcy and ruin to their House, leaving Tywin to restore the power and glory of his family by any means necessary. Despite this, he still has very fond memories of the man. Later, his beloved wife died in childbirth and his decades of loyal service as Hand of the King were rewarded with suspicion and derision by his increasingly mad former friend King Aerys II.II, which are also factors in his cold attitude towards life.
29th May '17 2:43:51 PM gb00393
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** George R.R. Martin himself has confirmed that Ramsay knew from a young age about his true parentage, but was completely disinherited. Therefore, a lot of his behavior is his desire for acknowledgement. Notably, however, it doesn't give him sympathy points in any way or justify anything he's done.
20th May '17 8:07:36 PM Qrow
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* ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'': "The Final Problem" gives some revelation on Sherlock and Mycroft's childhood that explains a ''lot'' about Sherlock's personality. [[spoiler: As it turns out, they actually had a sister named Eusus, who was...troubled. Sherlock also wasn't as friendless as we thought, because he had a best friend named Victor Trevor. Eusus caused Victor to go missing out of jealousy and refused to tell anyone where he was (turns out she trapped him in a well and left him to die) beyond a confusing riddle that no one could solve, despite Sherlock trying endlessly. After Eusus was committed, and later had her death faked, a heavily traumatized Sherlock dealt with it by writing both his sister and his best friend out of his memory entirely, forgetting either existed]]. It's implied this is the reason for both Sherlock's unwillingness to get close to people at the start of the series, and his pathological need to solve the unsolvable.

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* ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'': "The Final Problem" gives some revelation [[TheReveal revelations]] on Sherlock and Mycroft's childhood that explains a ''lot'' about Sherlock's personality. [[spoiler: As it turns out, they actually had a sister named Eusus, Eurus, who was...troubled. [[EnfantTerrible trou]][[CreepyChild bled]]. Sherlock also wasn't as friendless [[FriendlessBackground friendless]] as we thought, because he had a best friend named Victor Trevor. Eusus Eurus caused Victor to go missing out of jealousy and refused to tell anyone where he was (turns ([[AdultFear turns out she trapped him in a well and left him to die) die]]) beyond a confusing riddle that no one could solve, despite Sherlock trying endlessly. After Eusus Eurus was committed, and later had her death faked, a heavily traumatized Sherlock dealt with it by [[RepressedMemories writing both his sister and his best friend out of his memory entirely, entirely]], forgetting either existed]]. It's implied this is the reason for both Sherlock's unwillingness to get close to people at the start of the series, and his pathological need to solve the unsolvable.
20th May '17 10:28:14 AM Qrow
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* ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'': "The Final Problem" gives some revelation on Sherlock and Mycroft's childhood that explains a ''lot'' about Sherlock's personality. [[spoiler: As it turns out, they actually had a sister named Eusus, who was...troubled. Sherlock also wasn't as friendless as we thought, because he had a best friend named Victor Trevor. Eusus caused Victor to go missing out of jealousy and refused to tell anyone where he was (turns out she trapped him in a well and left him to die) beyond a confusing riddle that no one could solve, despite Sherlock trying endlessly. After Eusus was committed, and later had her death faked, a heavily traumatized Sherlock dealt with it by writing both his sister and his best friend out of his memory entirely, forgetting either existed]]. It's implied this is the reason for both Sherlock's unwillingness to get close to people at the start of the series, and his pathological need to solve the unsolvable.
13th May '17 10:43:10 PM Discar
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* ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'': [[spoiler:Grant Ward]] was abused by his family growing up, even being forced to abuse his younger brother in turn. When he tried to fight back by burning the house down, he failed, was arrested, and then recruited into HYDRA by [[spoiler:John Garrett]]. He was dumped in the woods for a month with a dog to teach him how to survive, then ordered to shoot the dog after. And then he was sent to infiltrate S.H.I.E.L.D., take part in the HYDRA uprising, kill one of the last leaders of S.H.I.E.L.D., and dump two of his best friends into the ocean. Overall, [[spoiler:Grant Ward]] is a deconstruction of the FreudianExcuse; all the terrible things that happened to him do not excuse everything he did in return.
21st Apr '17 7:57:31 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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-->'''Blackadder''': One thing, Ludwig, just before you go - were you ever bullied at school?
-->'''Ludwig''': ''[Tense]'' What do you mean?
-->'''Blackadder''': Well, all this ranting and raving about power. There must be ''some'' reason for it.
-->'''Ludwig''': Nonsense, no - at my school, having dirty hair and spots was a sign of maturity.
-->'''Blackadder''': I thought so. And I bet your mother made you wear shorts right up till your final year.
-->'''Ludwig''': ''[Losing it]'' Shut up! Shut up! When I am King of England, ''no one'' will ''ever'' dare call me 'shorty greasy spot-spot' again! ''[Storms out]''
-->'''Blackadder''': [[DeadpanSnarker Touched a nerve there, I think.]]

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-->'''Blackadder''': One thing, Ludwig, just before you go - -- were you ever bullied at school?
-->'''Ludwig''': ''[Tense]''
school?\\
'''Ludwig''': ''(tense)''
What do you mean?
-->'''Blackadder''':
mean?\\
'''Blackadder''':
Well, all this ranting and raving about power. There must be ''some'' reason for it.
-->'''Ludwig''':
it.\\
'''Ludwig''':
Nonsense, no - -- at my school, having dirty hair and spots was a sign of maturity.
-->'''Blackadder''':
maturity.\\
'''Blackadder''':
I thought so. And I bet your mother made you wear shorts right up till your final year.
-->'''Ludwig''': ''[Losing it]''
year.\\
'''Ludwig''': ''(losing it)''
Shut up! Shut up! When I am King of England, ''no one'' will ''ever'' dare call me 'shorty greasy spot-spot' again! ''[Storms out]''
-->'''Blackadder''':
''(storms out)''\\
'''Blackadder''':
[[DeadpanSnarker Touched a nerve there, I think.]]



--> '''Buffy:''' You never ever got a single date in high school, did you?
--> '''Snyder:''' Your point being?

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--> '''Buffy:''' --->'''Buffy:''' You never ever got a single date in high school, did you?
-->
you?\\
'''Snyder:''' Your point being?



-->'''Frasier''': Oh yes, here it comes - the old sob story. "Daddy didn't love me. Mother ignored me. The bully next door stole my baseball glove."\\

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-->'''Frasier''': Oh yes, here it comes - -- the old sob story. "Daddy didn't love me. Mother ignored me. The bully next door stole my baseball glove."\\



-->'''[[PoirotSpeak Sigfried]]''': Why, Smart? Why?
-->'''Max''': I don't know, Sigfried.
-->'''Sigfried''': Do you think it was because we lived in [[ButNotTooForeign Florida]]?
-->Max gives an EyeTake as the episode fades to the credits.

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-->'''[[PoirotSpeak Sigfried]]''': Why, Smart? Why?
-->'''Max''':
Why?\\
'''Max''':
I don't know, Sigfried.
-->'''Sigfried''':
Sigfried.\\
'''Sigfried''':
Do you think it was because we lived in [[ButNotTooForeign Florida]]?
-->Max
Florida]]?\\
''(Max
gives an EyeTake as the episode fades to the credits.credits)''



-->'''Dr. Huang''': What did your mother do to you?
-->'''Serial Killer''': Please... with you people, it's always the mother.
-->... ...
-->'''Detective Tutuola''': I don't want to hear how you didn't do it, it wasn't you, you were abused as a child.
-->... ...
-->'''Female Serial Killer''': I was ''raped'', more times than I can remember...
-->'''Detective Benson''': Right, and your mother died, and your dad beat ya.

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-->'''Dr. --->'''Dr. Huang''': What did your mother do to you?
-->'''Serial
you?\\
'''Serial
Killer''': Please... with you people, it's always the mother.
-->... ...
-->'''Detective
mother.\\\
'''Detective
Tutuola''': I don't want to hear how you didn't do it, it wasn't you, you were abused as a child.
-->... ...
-->'''Female
child.\\\
'''Female
Serial Killer''': I was ''raped'', more times than I can remember...
-->'''Detective
remember...\\
'''Detective
Benson''': Right, and your mother died, and your dad beat ya.



--> "It's hard to celebrate [[DeathByChildbirth the day you killed your mother]]."

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--> "It's --->"It's hard to celebrate [[DeathByChildbirth the day you killed your mother]]."



-->'''Alan:''' That's easy for you to say though, isn't it? Yeah? You get the glory, you get the girl, everyone loves you. Then when the King comes back, you'll have lands, property, a wife - everything. What will I have? You're always in the sun, Robin and I'm always in the shade.
-->'''Robin:''' Is that meant to be an excuse?

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-->'''Alan:''' That's easy for you to say though, isn't it? Yeah? You get the glory, you get the girl, everyone loves you. Then when the King comes back, you'll have lands, property, a wife - everything. What will I have? You're always in the sun, Robin and I'm always in the shade.
-->'''Robin:'''
shade.\\
'''Robin:'''
Is that meant to be an excuse?



-->'''Jimmy''': Why did you do it? Come on. Every killer's got a [[MonsterSobStory sob story]]. You know, I hear that an unhappy childhood, that's...that's pretty popular.

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-->'''Jimmy''': --->'''Jimmy''': Why did you do it? Come on. Every killer's got a [[MonsterSobStory sob story]]. You know, I hear that an unhappy childhood, that's...that's pretty popular.



-->'''Data:''' You are a fine debator sir. It is a pity you have used your verbal skills for mere hucksterism and the advancement of your own greed.
-->'''Fajo:''' ''(sullen)'' Perhaps... Perhaps you would not judge me so harshly if you knew of my desperate youth. Wasted, wasted, on the streets of Zimbala.
-->'''Data:''' Your past does not excuse unethical or immoral behavior, sir.
-->'''Fajo:''' ''(suddenly chipper)'' Eh, doesn't matter, isn't true anyway. My father was quite wealthy, actually. He was a thief.

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-->'''Data:''' You are a fine debator debator, sir. It is a pity you have used your verbal skills for mere hucksterism and the advancement of your own greed.
-->'''Fajo:'''
greed.\\
'''Fajo:'''
''(sullen)'' Perhaps... Perhaps you would not judge me so harshly if you knew of my desperate youth. ''(as a tear rolls down his cheek)'' Wasted, wasted, on the streets of Zimbala.
-->'''Data:'''
Zimbala.\\
'''Data:'''
Your past does not excuse unethical or immoral behavior, sir.
-->'''Fajo:'''
sir.\\
'''Fajo:'''
''(suddenly chipper)'' Eh, doesn't matter, isn't true anyway. My father was quite wealthy, actually. He was a thief.



--> '''Stephen:''' Yeah, maybe a library shelf fell on me when I was three, but that's not why I hate books.
--> '''[[FootnoteFever Bullet Point]]:''' It's Why He ''[[BookBurning Burns]]'' Books

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--> '''Stephen:''' --->'''Stephen:''' Yeah, maybe a library shelf fell on me when I was three, but that's not why I hate books.
-->
books.\\
'''[[FootnoteFever Bullet Point]]:''' It's Why He ''[[BookBurning Burns]]'' Books



-->'''Killer:''' So there's something I've been wanting to ask you for some time now. You've seen the things I do in the past as well as in the future.
-->'''Clyde Bruckman:''' They're terrible things.
-->'''Killer:''' I know they are. So, tell me, please, why have I done them?
-->'''Clyde Bruckman:''' Don't you understand yet, son? Don't you get it?
-->(The killer shakes his head and shrugs.)
-->'''Clyde Bruckman:''' You do the things you do because you're a homicidal maniac.
-->(The killer thinks about it for a moment and smiles.)
-->'''Killer:''' That... that does explain a lot, doesn't it? It's all starting to make sense now.

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-->'''Killer:''' So there's something I've been wanting to ask you for some time now. You've seen the things I do in the past as well as in the future.
-->'''Clyde
future.\\
'''Clyde
Bruckman:''' They're terrible things.
-->'''Killer:'''
things.\\
'''Killer:'''
I know they are. So, tell me, please, why have I done them?
-->'''Clyde
them?\\
'''Clyde
Bruckman:''' Don't you understand yet, son? Don't you get it?
-->(The
it?\\
''(the
killer shakes his head and shrugs.)
-->'''Clyde
shrugs)''\\
'''Clyde
Bruckman:''' You do the things you do because you're a homicidal maniac.
-->(The
maniac.\\
''(the
killer thinks about it for a moment and smiles.)
-->'''Killer:'''
smiles)''\\
'''Killer:'''
That... that does explain a lot, doesn't it? It's all starting to make sense now.
2nd Apr '17 9:38:02 AM Discar
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** Tywin Lannister's father Tytos was a weak man whose forgiving nature was mocked and exploited so frequently that it nearly brought ruin to their House, leaving Tywin to restore the power and glory of his family by any means necessary. Later, his beloved wife died in childbirth and his decades of loyal service as Hand of the King were rewarded with suspicion and derision by his increasingly mad former friend King Aerys II.
** Sandor Clegane was mutilated at a young age by his psychopathic older brother and grew up watching that brother rewarded for his brutality with praise and eventually a knighthood, leading Sandor to embrace his BloodKnight tendencies and disdain knighthood because he believes nobility and chivalry are absurd constructs and only the strong survive.
** Petyr Baelish came from the absolute lowest nobility but was fostered by one of the most powerful lords in the realm. Nicknamed "Littlefinger" for his small stature and low birth, Petyr fell unrequitedly in love with Catelyn Tully and challenged her fiancée to a duel, urged on by stories of the plucky underdog, only to lose badly and have Catelyn cut off contact with him. These events helped turn Petyr from a mischievous, romantic boy into a ruthless Machiavellian schemer obsessed with power.
** Viserys Targaryen lost his family and kingdom when he was no more than a child, leaving him to care for his newborn sister Daenerys (whose birth killed their mother) and carry the fate of the dynasty on his shoulders practically alone. Given the stress of such a situation and the Targaryen tendency for madness, its not really surprising he went nuts.
* Libby on ''Series/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch'': In the ChainedHeat episode, Sabrina learns Libby's mother is a distracted snob who doesn't pay any attention to her.


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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** Tywin Lannister's father Tytos was a weak man whose forgiving nature was mocked and exploited so frequently that it nearly brought ruin to their House, leaving Tywin to restore the power and glory of his family by any means necessary. Later, his beloved wife died in childbirth and his decades of loyal service as Hand of the King were rewarded with suspicion and derision by his increasingly mad former friend King Aerys II.
** Sandor Clegane was mutilated at a young age by his psychopathic older brother and grew up watching that brother rewarded for his brutality with praise and eventually a knighthood, leading Sandor to embrace his BloodKnight tendencies and disdain knighthood because he believes nobility and chivalry are absurd constructs and only the strong survive.
** Petyr Baelish came from the absolute lowest nobility but was fostered by one of the most powerful lords in the realm. Nicknamed "Littlefinger" for his small stature and low birth, Petyr fell unrequitedly in love with Catelyn Tully and challenged her fiancée to a duel, urged on by stories of the plucky underdog, only to lose badly and have Catelyn cut off contact with him. These events helped turn Petyr from a mischievous, romantic boy into a ruthless Machiavellian schemer obsessed with power.
** Viserys Targaryen lost his family and kingdom when he was no more than a child, leaving him to care for his newborn sister Daenerys (whose birth killed their mother) and carry the fate of the dynasty on his shoulders practically alone. Given the stress of such a situation and the Targaryen tendency for madness, its not really surprising he went nuts.


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* Libby on ''Series/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch'': In the ChainedHeat episode, Sabrina learns Libby's mother is a distracted snob who doesn't pay any attention to her.
18th Jan '17 2:15:37 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** Tywin Lannister's father Tytos was a weak man whose forgiving nature was mocked and exploited so frequently that it nearly brought ruin to their House, leaving Tywin to restore the power and glory of his family by any means necessary. Later, his beloved wife died in childbirth and his decades of loyal service as Hand of the King were rewarded with suspicion and derision by his increasingly mad former friend King Aerys II.
** Sandor Clegane was mutilated at a young age by his psychopathic older brother and grew up watching that brother rewarded for his brutality with praise and eventually a knighthood, leading Sandor to embrace his BloodKnight tendencies and disdain knighthood because he believes nobility and chivalry are absurd constructs and only the strong survive.
** Petyr Baelish came from the absolute lowest nobility but was fostered by one of the most powerful lords in the realm. Nicknamed "Littlefinger" for his small stature and low birth, Petyr fell unrequitedly in love with Catelyn Tully and challenged her fiancée to a duel, urged on by stories of the plucky underdog, only to lose badly and have Catelyn cut off contact with him. These events helped turn Petyr from a mischievous, romantic boy into a ruthless Machiavellian schemer obsessed with power.
** Viserys Targaryen lost his family and kingdom when he was no more than a child, leaving him to care for his newborn sister Daenerys (whose birth killed their mother) and carry the fate of the dynasty on his shoulders practically alone. Given the stress of such a situation and the Targaryen tendency for madness, its not really surprising he went nuts.
28th Nov '16 10:00:49 AM FlooKnight12602
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*** [[spoiler: Rumpel's birth mother chooses power over love.]]
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