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6th May '18 8:51:04 PM system
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6th May '18 8:31:35 PM hsrrsxfhryfy
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6th May '18 4:09:00 PM nombretomado
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* TelescopingRobot: Highly prevalent in ''[[TransformersGeneration1 G1]]'', where the 30-foot tall Soundwave became a microcassette player, amongst plenty of other examples. Later installments avoid this for the most part, simply consenting to [[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Scale change size off camera]]. Not to be confused with the Cybertronians that turn ''into'' telescopes.)

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* TelescopingRobot: Highly prevalent in ''[[TransformersGeneration1 ''[[Franchise/TransformersGeneration1 G1]]'', where the 30-foot tall Soundwave became a microcassette player, amongst plenty of other examples. Later installments avoid this for the most part, simply consenting to [[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Scale change size off camera]]. Not to be confused with the Cybertronians that turn ''into'' telescopes.)
6th May '18 3:49:16 PM Malady
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** The [[TransformersGeneration1 Original Movie]] was deliberately plotted to kill off as many characters/toys as possible, traumatizing kids who expected a continuation of the [[NeverSayDie TV show]].

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** The [[TransformersGeneration1 [[Franchise/ransformersGeneration1 Original Movie]] was deliberately plotted to kill off as many characters/toys as possible, traumatizing kids who expected a continuation of the [[NeverSayDie TV show]].
6th May '18 2:17:25 PM nombretomado
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* AdvertisingOnlyContinuity: Sometimes it's relatively minor, like a [[Film/TransformersFilmSeries movie]] Jazz figure recolored as an homage to [[TransformersGenerationOne G1]] Jazz being explained in his bio as having been revived by Ratchet, or ''WesternAnimation/BeastMachines'' quietly expanding the small band of surviving Maximals. Other times it's more complex, like how the early ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'' toys' bios set up the series as a direct continuation of G1 on modern-day Earth, with Optimus Primal and Megatron being the same characters as G1 Optimus Prime and Megatron (which would later be contradicted by the TV series). In extreme cases, such as the current Kre-O sub-line, on-package bios and commericals may be the ''only'' fiction available.

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* AdvertisingOnlyContinuity: Sometimes it's relatively minor, like a [[Film/TransformersFilmSeries movie]] Jazz figure recolored as an homage to [[TransformersGenerationOne [[Franchise/TransformersGeneration1 G1]] Jazz being explained in his bio as having been revived by Ratchet, or ''WesternAnimation/BeastMachines'' quietly expanding the small band of surviving Maximals. Other times it's more complex, like how the early ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'' toys' bios set up the series as a direct continuation of G1 on modern-day Earth, with Optimus Primal and Megatron being the same characters as G1 Optimus Prime and Megatron (which would later be contradicted by the TV series). In extreme cases, such as the current Kre-O sub-line, on-package bios and commericals may be the ''only'' fiction available.
2nd May '18 5:37:10 PM Malady
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** In the ''Infestation 2'' arc, a meta-series where Lovecraftian creatures invade IDW comics properties, Optimus Prime ([[SteamPunk As a 19th-Century Steam Locomotive]]) ''actually'' punches out ''[[CthulhuMythos the Cthulhu]]''.

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** In the ''Infestation 2'' arc, a meta-series where Lovecraftian creatures invade IDW comics properties, Optimus Prime ([[SteamPunk As a 19th-Century Steam Locomotive]]) ''actually'' punches out ''[[CthulhuMythos ''[[Franchise/CthulhuMythos the Cthulhu]]''.
22nd Apr '18 8:20:23 AM costanton11
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** ''ComicBook/Revolution2016'': New event for the fall of 2016, establishing a SharedUniverse between [[Franchise/HasbroComicUniverse the various Hasbro/IDW titles]] including ''[[ComicBook/GIJoeIDW G.I. Joe]]'', ''[[ComicBook/RomSpaceknight ROM]]'', ''ComicBook/ActionMan'', ''WesternAnimation/{{MASK}}'', ''ComicBook/MicronautsIDW'' and ''ComicBook/JemAndTheHolograms'' (though the last one won't being showing up in the crossover proper).

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** ''ComicBook/Revolution2016'': New event for the fall of 2016, establishing a SharedUniverse between [[Franchise/HasbroComicUniverse [[ComicBook/HasbroComicUniverse the various Hasbro/IDW titles]] including ''[[ComicBook/GIJoeIDW G.I. Joe]]'', ''[[ComicBook/RomSpaceknight ROM]]'', ''ComicBook/ActionMan'', ''WesternAnimation/{{MASK}}'', ''ComicBook/MicronautsIDW'' and ''ComicBook/JemAndTheHolograms'' (though the last one won't being showing up in the crossover proper).
20th Apr '18 4:35:28 PM Chubzhac
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** Starscream's cowardice and underhandedness often eclipse any kind of military or leadership skills he has, to the point where some incarnations of the character is so weak or incompetent that it's unbelievable that Megatron would keep him as his second in command.
20th Apr '18 2:00:46 AM abates
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For more information, you might want to consult [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Main_Page the Transformers wiki,]] Wiki/TFWikiDotNet. Its informality is similar to that of TV Tropes.-]

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For more information, you might want to consult [[http://tfwiki.[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Main_Page the Transformers wiki,]] Wiki/TFWikiDotNet. Its informality is similar to that of TV Tropes.-]



After the original toy line, further incarnations were designed specifically for the mega-hit ''Transformers'' brand, creating a more internally-consistent style, though still with inappropriate [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Scale sizes between toys.]]

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After the original toy line, further incarnations were designed specifically for the mega-hit ''Transformers'' brand, creating a more internally-consistent style, though still with inappropriate [[http://tfwiki.[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Scale sizes between toys.]]



* '''[[BigBad Megatron]]''': Leader of the Decepticons. He is often a megalomaniac whose thirst for power is unmatched and orchestrated the civil war when the Autobots wouldn't just accept him as their leader, though some versions of him invoke HeWhoFightsMonsters or FallenHero. Often portrayed as one of the most powerful Decepticons alive, but usually mad and brilliant at the same time. His original form was a Walther P38 pistol modeled after the variant created for ''Series/TheManFromUNCLE'' [[note]]This was back in the days when children were allowed to play with realistic looking firearm toys[[/note]]. In later versions his alternate mode usually takes on the form of a tank or heavily armed air vehicle (jet, helicopter, etc) and if the toys feel nostalgic they make a "futuristic" [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/For_safety_reasons (i.e. Nerf-inspired)]] pistol. Many of his incarnations are rebuilt into a more powerful form and renamed ''Galvatron'', though this isn't a hard and fast rule. His counterparts in the Beast Era took the form of a TyrannosaurusRex (also named Megatron), a triple-changer who had both dragon and drill-tank modes (who named himself Galvatron in the original's honour) and three separate ancient reptiles that combined into a single robot (named Magmatron, who was also a NobleDemon).

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* '''[[BigBad Megatron]]''': Leader of the Decepticons. He is often a megalomaniac whose thirst for power is unmatched and orchestrated the civil war when the Autobots wouldn't just accept him as their leader, though some versions of him invoke HeWhoFightsMonsters or FallenHero. Often portrayed as one of the most powerful Decepticons alive, but usually mad and brilliant at the same time. His original form was a Walther P38 pistol modeled after the variant created for ''Series/TheManFromUNCLE'' [[note]]This was back in the days when children were allowed to play with realistic looking firearm toys[[/note]]. In later versions his alternate mode usually takes on the form of a tank or heavily armed air vehicle (jet, helicopter, etc) and if the toys feel nostalgic they make a "futuristic" [[http://tfwiki.[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/For_safety_reasons (i.e. Nerf-inspired)]] pistol. Many of his incarnations are rebuilt into a more powerful form and renamed ''Galvatron'', though this isn't a hard and fast rule. His counterparts in the Beast Era took the form of a TyrannosaurusRex (also named Megatron), a triple-changer who had both dragon and drill-tank modes (who named himself Galvatron in the original's honour) and three separate ancient reptiles that combined into a single robot (named Magmatron, who was also a NobleDemon).



Several times, Hasbro has attempted to put transforming toys related to other lines under the ''Transformers'' umbrella. It didn't work out so well for the ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'', but the MarvelUniverse and ''StarWars'' ones have been better received. Takara also has gotten in on this, with the Creator/{{Disney}} [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Disney_Label Label]] (yeah, we dunno what possesed Takara either).

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Several times, Hasbro has attempted to put transforming toys related to other lines under the ''Transformers'' umbrella. It didn't work out so well for the ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'', but the MarvelUniverse and ''StarWars'' ones have been better received. Takara also has gotten in on this, with the Creator/{{Disney}} [[http://tfwiki.[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Disney_Label Label]] (yeah, we dunno what possesed Takara either).



** Wiki/TFWikiDotNet likes to [[InvokedTrope invoke this]] when Hasbro applies the ''Transformers'' brand name to transforming toys made for a different franchise, such as ''StarWars'', which makes for amusing pages where the writer [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Darth_Vader pretends to genuinely have no idea Darth Vader has been in anything else.]]

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** Wiki/TFWikiDotNet likes to [[InvokedTrope invoke this]] when Hasbro applies the ''Transformers'' brand name to transforming toys made for a different franchise, such as ''StarWars'', which makes for amusing pages where the writer [[http://tfwiki.[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Darth_Vader pretends to genuinely have no idea Darth Vader has been in anything else.]]



* AlternateContinuity: Currently, 5 different "main" continuity lines. [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Continuities.png When you go into the comics, on the other hand,]] talk about ContinuitySnarl.

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* AlternateContinuity: Currently, 5 different "main" continuity lines. [[http://tfwiki.[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Continuities.png When you go into the comics, on the other hand,]] talk about ContinuitySnarl.



** [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Japaneseflowchart.jpg Here]] is Japan's take with their continuities (yes, some shows are in different continuities in different countries). It's not any better.

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** [[http://tfwiki.[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Japaneseflowchart.jpg Here]] is Japan's take with their continuities (yes, some shows are in different continuities in different countries). It's not any better.



* CosmicRetcon: The franchise, of course, has one of its own: [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unicron_Singularity the Unicron Singularity]], which ripped and tore at the fabric of time and space in a way that essentially opens up a planet-sized plot hole just to make room for itself to fill it.

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* CosmicRetcon: The franchise, of course, has one of its own: [[http://tfwiki.[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unicron_Singularity the Unicron Singularity]], which ripped and tore at the fabric of time and space in a way that essentially opens up a planet-sized plot hole just to make room for itself to fill it.



** The concept of the [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Multiversal_singularity multiversal singularity]] (that is, characters of which only one exists in the entire multiverse, such as Primus, Unicron and The Fallen) was nullified by this - while at first it was gradual, with [[AllThereInTheManual Ask Vector Prime]] claiming certain appearances of Unicron (such as the one in [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformers the original American cartoon continuity]]) were not part of the main singularity Unicron, the 2015 Fun Publications story "Another Light" had Nexus Prime solidify the walls between reality, limiting travel between dimensions and splintering all former singularities (such as Vector Prime and Nexus himself) into infinite selves across existence, as had been the case with many "regular" beings.

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** The concept of the [[http://tfwiki.[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Multiversal_singularity multiversal singularity]] (that is, characters of which only one exists in the entire multiverse, such as Primus, Unicron and The Fallen) was nullified by this - while at first it was gradual, with [[AllThereInTheManual Ask Vector Prime]] claiming certain appearances of Unicron (such as the one in [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformers the original American cartoon continuity]]) were not part of the main singularity Unicron, the 2015 Fun Publications story "Another Light" had Nexus Prime solidify the walls between reality, limiting travel between dimensions and splintering all former singularities (such as Vector Prime and Nexus himself) into infinite selves across existence, as had been the case with many "regular" beings.



* FacelessMasses: Many nameless background Transformer (or robots in general) characters have various designs (some resemble Soundwave or Prowl). [[FanNickname Fans coined the term]] "[[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Generic generics]]".

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* FacelessMasses: Many nameless background Transformer (or robots in general) characters have various designs (some resemble Soundwave or Prowl). [[FanNickname Fans coined the term]] "[[http://tfwiki."[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Generic generics]]".



** It's been an accepted HandWave that Transformers have this to explain Robots changing size from what would logically fit into their alternate form, most famously Megatron and Soundwave from G1. Also, exactly how big individual Transformers are varies radically based on the needs of the plot. [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Scale Scale in Transformers is, not to put too fine a point on it, screwed.]]

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** It's been an accepted HandWave that Transformers have this to explain Robots changing size from what would logically fit into their alternate form, most famously Megatron and Soundwave from G1. Also, exactly how big individual Transformers are varies radically based on the needs of the plot. [[http://tfwiki.[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Scale Scale in Transformers is, not to put too fine a point on it, screwed.]]



* InterpretativeCharacter: Several names have been used throughout all the various continuities. While there are often consistencies between these incarnations of these names, there is usually enough leeway to take them in all sorts of directions. Wiki/TFWikiDotNet's article on the term "[[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Character character]]" is a good analysis on this phenomenon, and the Interpretative Character page here has more specific examples.

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* InterpretativeCharacter: Several names have been used throughout all the various continuities. While there are often consistencies between these incarnations of these names, there is usually enough leeway to take them in all sorts of directions. Wiki/TFWikiDotNet's article on the term "[[http://tfwiki."[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Character character]]" is a good analysis on this phenomenon, and the Interpretative Character page here has more specific examples.



* TheMultiverse: The franchise has a whole pile of alternate universes which sometimes cross over, and which [[FlipFlopOfGod Hasbro and Takara disagree over]] which are actually separate and which simply occur to the side of other stories. The Transformers of the [[ComicBook/TransformersTranstech Axiom Nexus]] have grouped all continuities into a number of [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Universal_stream universal streams]], with each stream corresponding to a continuity group. Thus, for example, Primax is the G1/Beast Era family, Tyran is the live-action movies, Gargent is the [[WesternAnimation/ChallengeOfTheGobots GoBots]], [[FourthWall Quadwal]] is the [[RealLife real world]], etc. Some of these are [[MirrorUniverse negative-polarity universes]] in which Decepticons are good and Autobots are evil; these are assigned negative numbers. There are also [[OurSoulsAreDifferent sparks]] that resonate across the universe, giving rise to multiple similar but separate versions of Optimus Prime, Megatron, Starscream, and various others.
** The Franchise/TransformersAlignedUniverse, which includes ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'', ''WesternAnimation/TransformersRescueBots'', the ''[[TransformersWarForCypertron War for Cybertron]]'' video game series and the novels retelling the narrative of the games, were originally considered to be outside this multiverse, but were eventually retconned in, allowing [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Slipstream_(WFC) the "Alligned" version of Slipstream]] to turn up in [[Franchise/TransformersTimeline Axion Nexus]].

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* TheMultiverse: The franchise has a whole pile of alternate universes which sometimes cross over, and which [[FlipFlopOfGod Hasbro and Takara disagree over]] which are actually separate and which simply occur to the side of other stories. The Transformers of the [[ComicBook/TransformersTranstech Axiom Nexus]] have grouped all continuities into a number of [[http://tfwiki.[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Universal_stream universal streams]], with each stream corresponding to a continuity group. Thus, for example, Primax is the G1/Beast Era family, Tyran is the live-action movies, Gargent is the [[WesternAnimation/ChallengeOfTheGobots GoBots]], [[FourthWall Quadwal]] is the [[RealLife real world]], etc. Some of these are [[MirrorUniverse negative-polarity universes]] in which Decepticons are good and Autobots are evil; these are assigned negative numbers. There are also [[OurSoulsAreDifferent sparks]] that resonate across the universe, giving rise to multiple similar but separate versions of Optimus Prime, Megatron, Starscream, and various others.
** The Franchise/TransformersAlignedUniverse, which includes ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'', ''WesternAnimation/TransformersRescueBots'', the ''[[TransformersWarForCypertron War for Cybertron]]'' video game series and the novels retelling the narrative of the games, were originally considered to be outside this multiverse, but were eventually retconned in, allowing [[http://tfwiki.[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Slipstream_(WFC) the "Alligned" version of Slipstream]] to turn up in [[Franchise/TransformersTimeline Axion Nexus]].



* SignatureStyle: Simon Furman has a series of phrases that make their way into virtually every comic he writes, referred to as [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Furmanism Furmanisms]]. The most famous is either "'''like some vast, predatory bird'''" or "It never ends!"

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* SignatureStyle: Simon Furman has a series of phrases that make their way into virtually every comic he writes, referred to as [[http://tfwiki.[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Furmanism Furmanisms]]. The most famous is either "'''like some vast, predatory bird'''" or "It never ends!"



** You can count the female Transformers who appeared more than once in a series on both hands. [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/List_of_female_Transformers A list of all female Transformers can be found here]]. This isn't helped by long-time ''Transformers'' comic writer Simon Furman, who writes Transformers as having ''no'' gender and has publically stated that he hates the idea of female Transformers. This, combined with the fact that Jhiaxus' experiments in giving Transformers gender made Arcee both a female and AxCrazy brings up some UnfortunateImplications.

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** You can count the female Transformers who appeared more than once in a series on both hands. [[http://tfwiki.[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/List_of_female_Transformers A list of all female Transformers can be found here]]. This isn't helped by long-time ''Transformers'' comic writer Simon Furman, who writes Transformers as having ''no'' gender and has publically stated that he hates the idea of female Transformers. This, combined with the fact that Jhiaxus' experiments in giving Transformers gender made Arcee both a female and AxCrazy brings up some UnfortunateImplications.



* TelescopingRobot: Highly prevalent in ''[[TransformersGeneration1 G1]]'', where the 30-foot tall Soundwave became a microcassette player, amongst plenty of other examples. Later installments avoid this for the most part, simply consenting to [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Scale change size off camera]]. Not to be confused with the Cybertronians that turn ''into'' telescopes.)

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* TelescopingRobot: Highly prevalent in ''[[TransformersGeneration1 G1]]'', where the 30-foot tall Soundwave became a microcassette player, amongst plenty of other examples. Later installments avoid this for the most part, simply consenting to [[http://tfwiki.[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Scale change size off camera]]. Not to be confused with the Cybertronians that turn ''into'' telescopes.)



* UnitsNotToScale: [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Scale There's a TFwiki page about it]]. In short, there are ''many'' size-scale inconsistencies with the various Transformers, both in the toyline and in the cartoons and comics. Due to some effort by the production team, the Live-Action Film series has fewer scale issues.

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* UnitsNotToScale: [[http://tfwiki.[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Scale There's a TFwiki page about it]]. In short, there are ''many'' size-scale inconsistencies with the various Transformers, both in the toyline and in the cartoons and comics. Due to some effort by the production team, the Live-Action Film series has fewer scale issues.



* WretchedHive: In several continuities like the Dreamwave and IDW comics, the named city ''[[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Kaon_(polity) Kaon]]'' on Cybertron is often referred to as a miserable place, where the local law enforcers are hopelessly corrupt and/or helpless - in several backstories Kaon is also the place where the underground gladiator rings are located, and thus forms the birthplace of the rebellious movement that would become the Decepticons. Megatron in particular typically makes his name here as a champion in the arena before he becomes the Decepticon commander. Amusingly, on Primus's body as per his Transformers Cybertron incarnation, Kaon is located under his heel when he transforms to robot mode.

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* WretchedHive: In several continuities like the Dreamwave and IDW comics, the named city ''[[http://tfwiki.''[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Kaon_(polity) Kaon]]'' on Cybertron is often referred to as a miserable place, where the local law enforcers are hopelessly corrupt and/or helpless - in several backstories Kaon is also the place where the underground gladiator rings are located, and thus forms the birthplace of the rebellious movement that would become the Decepticons. Megatron in particular typically makes his name here as a champion in the arena before he becomes the Decepticon commander. Amusingly, on Primus's body as per his Transformers Cybertron incarnation, Kaon is located under his heel when he transforms to robot mode.



* YourSizeMayVary: Alien robots that can transform into every conceivable mechanical/electrical item results in this, and happens often in comics and TV series (the live-action films at least tried to avert this with some limited success). Moreso if a Transformer has more than one alternate mode. [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Scale There is an entire page on the Transformers Wiki about this.]]

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* YourSizeMayVary: Alien robots that can transform into every conceivable mechanical/electrical item results in this, and happens often in comics and TV series (the live-action films at least tried to avert this with some limited success). Moreso if a Transformer has more than one alternate mode. [[http://tfwiki.[[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Scale There is an entire page on the Transformers Wiki about this.]]
11th Apr '18 2:59:37 PM ElSquibbonator
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* ArmiesAreEvil: If a character turns into a military vehicle, like a tank or a jet fighter, they're probably a Decepticon. Autobot's with military vehicle modes exist, but they're nowhere near as common.
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