History Franchise / Spiderman

24th Jun '17 2:35:53 PM Arawn999
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23rd Jun '17 1:18:38 AM JulianLapostat
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* TheArtifact: On account of Marvel's decision to set Spider-Man in a LikeRealityUnlessNoted New York (rather than DC's FantasyCounterpartCulture approach) as well as its adoption of ComicBookTime, some aspects of Spider-Man's lore has become a little anachronistic or dated (which only [[ReimaginingTheArtifact recently has started to change]]).
** Spider-Man is fundamentally a street-level superhero like Daredevil and originally his adventures had a realism because TheSixties to TheNineties was TheBigRottenApple era of New York City (where real events like the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_blackout_of_1977 1977 blackout]] occurred in the page), a time of high crime statistics where the idea of multiple street-level superheroes in a single city had a little verisimilitude. Since the era of Giuliani and gentrification however, street crime level has dropped down while highly restrictive gun laws have been put into effect. Now of course the presence and activity of supervillains does not depend on that for explanations, but fundamentally the reduction of crime should mean that Spider-Man's status as a street-level hero being so important as to make demands on his personal and professional life need more justification than "[[BrooklynRage it's New York]]".
** The issue of gentrification and high costs in New York, and the challenge to the print media by online and the rise of cellphones and the internet has also meant that Peter's old job as a photographer for a newspaper and being the guy who "takes pictures of Spider-Man" and making a sufficient living off of that (despite being paid low by JJJ) and still living in New York, makes it harder to accept. It was already dated in TheOughties that Creator/SamRaimi's adoption of the same came off to more than a few observers as AnachronismStew (and Raimi made it work by artificially mixing different aspects of New York history in his film). In the ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'' series, Peter becomes a web designer (albeit initially entering the Daily Bugle with the photographs) and part of the plot had the Daily Bugle transition from a print to an online magazine. Creator/DanSlott's run had Jameson become the Mayor of New York which essentially updated their dynamic.


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* TheOneWhoMadeItOut: Some of the stories (at least before the Creator/DanSlott era[[note]]Where Peter is a CEO businessman[[/note]]) and adaptations of ''Spider-Man'' deal with Peter's {{Angst}} about the fact that being Spider-Man is delaying or hurting his ambitions and plans for his career or attempts to live up to his potential. This is also part of the arc of his supporting characters.
** It was in the background of the ''If This Be My Destiny--'' story which heightens the isolation and loneliness Peter faces with Aunt May dying, struggling to pay bills, coming of as aloof, while the final panel has the doctor noting how Spider-Man gets credit while TheRealHeroes like Peter get little reward. This was part of the reason why Peter initially avoided being set up on a date by Aunt May for the as-yet unseen Mary-Jane because he was drawn to the wider social circle of Empire State University while he felt that Aunt May's match would be a little too typical for his sake (he was wrong of course).
** Creator/NormanOsborn in his revival often taunted Peter for being an underachiever who more or less still lives in the same way he did as a young man, was still poor and came of as an underachiever. Doctor Octopus in the ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' initially expressed the same views.
** Mary-Jane's story was also about wanting to escape her roots, namely her abusive upbringing and become an actress and model. During her marriage with Peter, there was FamilyVersusCareer tensions in their relationship about her earning more than Peter, which made the latter miserable, while also feeling a little frustrated if being a "policeman's wife" was hampering her career.
22nd Jun '17 11:47:42 AM JulianLapostat
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* LostInImitation: On account of Spider-Man's adaptation into diverse movies, games, cartoons and even newspaper strips, which take a CompressedAdaptation and CompositeCharacter approach, many elements get lost in the process. Not helping is when elements from these adaptations became CanonImmigrant. This tends to polarize Spider-Man's fanbase and it's partially to correct this, that recent stories like ''Spider-Verse'' were put into effect. The end result is that depending on where you start from, you end up having a different Spider-Man in your head.
** For many people, before Creator/SamRaimi's films, especially internationally[[note]]Marvel comics in its back issues didn't always publish regularly and serially in TheEighties and TheNineties around the globe and even then the decades of continuity and ongoing stories made it hard for newcomers to get into[[/note]], their main exposure to Spider-Man was Creator/StanLee's newspaper strip that was published and syndicated in many newspapers around the world. It was in this newspaper that Spider-Man first married Mary-Jane Watson. In this strip, which is LighterAndSofter than the regular continuity, Peter Parker is an ExperiencedProtagonist who is HappilyMarried and his dynamic with MJ is closer to [[Literature/TheThinMan Nick and Nora]] rather than the WetBlanketWife she was in the mainstream comics. Most of the action has Peter working for JJJ at the Daily Bugle as a photographer (when Peter had [[WhyDoYouKeepChangingJobs taken a variety of jobs]] in 616 continuity). Eventually the marriage went from the newspaper strip to the main comics continuity, and for a long time, Peter became known for being the most famous superhero who was a married man, which explains the backlash with ''ComicBook/OneMoreDay''.
** Until very recently, most audiences who knew of Spider-Man tended to see Mary Jane as his ComicBook/LoisLane and never even knew about Gwen Stacy (or Betty Brant, or Liz Allan), except through the internet. The ''ComicBook/SpiderGirl'' comics likewise established the most famous LegacyCharacter of Peter's at the time to be his daughter with MJ. The reason is that most of the cartoon adaptations and Sam Raimi's movies had established her as Peter's true love and the fact that Gwen Stacy had died was something that censorship would not allow kids cartoons to put across. Gwen Stacy's fame as a murder victim in regular continuity is further diluted with her appearance as a supporting character in ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' and the success of ''ComicBook/SpiderGwen'' and the upcoming animated series where she has spider-powers from the start.
** Likewise, for most people who come to the character from the newspaper strip or follow the regular continuity, Spider-Man hasn't been a KidHero or high-school student since his early issues. He graduated from high school to college similar to Marvel Comics EarlyInstallmentWeirdness where they averted ComicBookTime and had characters age and progress. However, cartoons and movies by focusing on his origins tends to paint him as that. Creator/BrianMichaelBendis' popular ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'' wrote 200 issues with Peter still not graduating high school and the series ended without him graduating. The upcoming MCU Trilogy is also planned to focus and be set mostly in Spider-Man's teenage years, albeit ReimaginingTheArtifact slightly.
12th Jun '17 3:32:59 AM Morgenthaler
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* YouCantKillWhatsAlreadyDead: Subverted with Digger. He's both undead and takes extreme amounts of damage over the course of his debut without injury. However, this was actually due to the fact that he had a HealingFactor, as he was reanimated by gamma radiation from nuclear weapons tests near his grave site, and Spidey exploited this fact to kill him in his first appearance.
10th Jun '17 3:45:55 AM rafi
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** Firstly, there's arch enemy ComicBook/DoctorOctopus.
** Then there's the PoweredArmour [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]] gives Spider-Man in the ''ComicBook/CivilWar''.
** There's also Midnight Sons rogue Spider-X, who has boney spider-limbs.
** Pre-dating the ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' Iron Spider armor, a possible future Spider-Man was shown to be a genius with PoweredArmor using a similar system to Doc Ock's. Interestingly, the future Goblin serving as his nemesis had equivalent technology on ''her'' armor as well.
** Spider-Man once had a teenage fanboy who built himself a set of mechanical spider legs and tried to become Spidey's sidekick. Since he was a clumsy, [[GeekPhysique out-of-shape]] teenager with no combat experience, it was a good thing that Spider-Man was able to talk him out of it before he hurt himself. A few years later, he reemerged as the Steel Spider, having gotten into shape and learned some hand-to-hand fighting ability in the interim. After beating up some guys who'd attacked his girlfriend, he decided to hang up the costume but then reemerged during the ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' on the anti-registration side. His super-hero career apparently ended when he fought the Thunderbolts and Venom bit off and [[IAmAHumanitarian ate]] one of his arms and he was imprisoned in the Negative Zone.
** The ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan has added similar waldoes to his second costume. [[spoiler:Makes sense, since he's actually ComicBook/DoctorOctopus [[GrandTheftMe after stealing Spidey's body and life]].]] They are destroyed during the [[GrandFinale "Goblin Nation"]] arc.
** The third and fourth ComicBook/SpiderWoman both possessed these at different points. Originally they were a power of Charlotte Witter (Spider-Woman IV), as a result of [[LegoGenetics genetic manipulation]] by Doc Ock. After a lot of back-and-forth [[AllYourPowersCombined power-stealing]], the limbs -- [[SuperpowerLottery along with the other powers of all three other "Spider-Women"]] -- ended up with Mattie Franklin (Spider-Woman III).
** This has happened to Spidey before, but he managed to cure his condition thanks to the help of Dr. Curt Connors (a.k.a. the Lizard).



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* {{Tsundere}}: Gwen Stacy, in her earliest appearances.

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** In the comics, [[DatingCatwoman Black Cat]] barely tolerated Peter Parker's presence, but was hot to trot for Spider-Man any time. The catch is that Black Cat knows that they are one and the same person.
** ''ComicBook/SpiderManLovesMaryJane'' has the more traditional version, where Mary Jane has decided to somehow ask Spider-Man to take her to a school dance only to find herself falling for Peter Parker at the same time.
** This goes back a long way with him; at the end of a very early adventure, Peter Parker calls Liz Allen on the phone to ask for a date only to have her tell him she's already told off his rival Flash Thompson and wants him off the line as well, since she's anticipating a call from Spider-man. As she slams down the receiver, he laments that "Only a guy with ''my'' nutty luck could end up being his own competition!"
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in her earliest appearances.early mainstream appearances Mary Jane flirted both with Peter Parker and with Spider-Man (when he rescued her) and often expressed admiration or attraction to Spider-Man. Years later it was revealed that MJ knew that the two are one and the same all along... Making things interesting, MJ actually didn't want a serious relationship with Peter ''because'' she knew he was Spider-Man, and she was GenreSavvy enough to know the issues with dating a superhero.
7th Jun '17 7:54:22 AM Manny20444
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** ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' is widely considered an AdaptationDistillation. While the show does stay true to the comics (through using a lot of elements from the original Spider-Man comics that were written by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko; the show brought in characters, story lines, and plot elements with a similar balance of action, drama and comedy as well as a high school setting), it also tends to utilize material from all eras of the comic's run and other sources such as the more recent the [[Comicbook/UltimateSpiderMan Ultimate Comics]], and the [[Film/SpiderManTrilogy Sam Raimi movies]] (through the fact that a lot of characters were patterned after their 616 counterparts) making a Spider-Man cartoon that is recognizable to both older and younger fans.

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** ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' is widely considered an AdaptationDistillation. While the show does stay true to the comics (through using a lot of elements from the original Spider-Man comics that were written by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko; the show brought in characters, story lines, and plot elements with a similar balance of action, drama and comedy as well as a high school setting), it also tends to utilize material from all eras of the comic's run and other sources such as the more recent the [[Comicbook/UltimateSpiderMan Ultimate Comics]], and the [[Film/SpiderManTrilogy Sam Raimi movies]] (through the fact that (though a lot of characters were patterned after their 616 counterparts) making a Spider-Man cartoon that is recognizable to both older and younger fans.
7th Jun '17 7:53:48 AM Manny20444
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** ''WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}'' is loosely adapted from the comic book with the same name while using some elements from the 616 and Marvel Cinematic Universes. Aiming for a more comedic tone than its predecessors, the series tries its best to put a different spin on all the old characters and try to bring in something new.

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** ''WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}'' is very loosely adapted from the comic book with the same name while using some elements from the 616 and Marvel Cinematic Universes.Universe. Aiming for a more comedic tone than its predecessors, the series tries its best to put a different spin on all the old characters and try to bring in something new.
26th May '17 5:26:52 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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** Saving a young boy from being molested by his female babysitter [[http://www.misterkitty.org/extras/stupidcovers/superhero2.jpg by telling the tale about how he was molested as a kid by an adult friend named "Skip", who had an uncanny resemble to Uncle Ben]]. Marvel has stated, however, that story is not canon.

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** Saving a young boy from being molested by his female babysitter [[http://www.misterkitty.org/extras/stupidcovers/superhero2.jpg by telling the tale about how he was molested as a kid by an adult friend named "Skip", who had an uncanny resemble to Uncle Ben]]. Marvel has stated, however, that the story is not canon.
30th Apr '17 8:07:08 AM Phoenixion
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* ''ComicBook/{{Scarlet Spider|2012}}''
29th Apr '17 5:19:59 AM Taskmaster123
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*** However, it has to be noted that due to Venom's twisted sense of fair play, neither Mary Jane or May were ever in any danger. Venom never made any threatening moves towards either of them, and Eddie Brock even chatted with May in a very friendly manner and helped her with household chores. Brock even gave Peter his word that he would never harm Aunt May.
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