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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: When we first see Lance's sparse class, he gets frustrated when one student just reads the lyrics to [[Music/{{Queen}} "Under Pressure"]] and claims them as his own, asking that his students strive for original and, more importantly, personal creations. This is followed by a female student ready a ''very'' [[{{Squick}} detailed]] poem about [[NoPeriodsPeriod having her period]].
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Robin Williams is Lance Clayton, a poetry teacher, as noted above. However, unlike John Keating, his class is very unpopular and he does not inspire his students at all. He is also a struggling writer who has not been able to get anything published. His girlfriend, Claire, is a pretty young art teacher, but she seems to be spending a lot of time with the handsome and charming English teacher Mike. And as if all that wasn't bad enough, his son, Kyle, is a surly, porn-obsessed, misogynist, {{Jerkass}}.

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Robin Williams is Lance Clayton, a poetry teacher, as noted above. However, unlike John Keating, his class is very unpopular and he does not inspire his students at all. He is also a struggling writer who has not been able to get anything published. His girlfriend, Claire, is a pretty young art teacher, but she she's reluctant to make their relationship public and seems to be spending a lot of time with the handsome and charming English teacher Mike. And as if all that wasn't bad enough, his son, Kyle, is a surly, porn-obsessed, misogynist, {{Jerkass}}.
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This film was made in 2008 and opened at Sundance in early 2009, and is now on DVD and Blu-Ray. It was directed by Creator/BobcatGoldthwait, who also directed ''ShakesTheClown'' (in which Robin has an uncredited cameo) and ''SleepingDogsLie'', a romantic comedy where a girl reveals she fellated a dog in college and her relationships start to fall apart ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_Lie_%282006_film%29 We don't make these things up, folks]]).

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This film was made in 2008 and opened at Sundance in early 2009, and is now on DVD and Blu-Ray. It was directed by Creator/BobcatGoldthwait, who also directed ''ShakesTheClown'' (in which Robin has an uncredited cameo) and ''SleepingDogsLie'', ''Film/SleepingDogsLie'', a romantic comedy where a girl reveals she fellated a dog in college and her relationships start to fall apart ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_Lie_%282006_film%29 We don't make these things up, folks]]).
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Harsher In Hindsight is a YMMV trope - and there\'s already an entry for this very event on the YMMV page. (RIP Robin... sigh.)


* HarsherInHindsight: This movie becomes a little darker after seeing the similarities between Kyle's death and Robin Williams' suicide in 2014.
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* HarsherInHindsight: This movie becomes a little darker after seeing the similarities between Kyle's death and Robin William's suicide in 2014.

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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Lance is a social outcast, but he no longer has to live with the guilt his success based on lies about his son's death.]]

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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Lance is a social outcast, but he no longer has to live with the guilt of his success based on lies about his son's death.]]
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Lance is a social outcast, but he no longer has to live with the guilt his success based on lies about his son's death.]]
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* ActorAllusion: Creator/RobinWilliams plays a poetry teacher at a private school where a student commits suicide.
** At one point, one of his colleagues has written a short story whose title Robin identifies as being a reference to Creator/IsaacAsimov's ''Literature/IRobot''. Robin Williams starred in the film adaptation of Asimov's ''BicentennialMan'', but you can forgive someone for considering it an allusion.



* HeyItsThatGuy - Voice actor TomKenny has a cameo as a television producer. Kenny and Goldthwait were high school friends and performed comedy under the name "Tomcat and Bobcat," which is where Goldthwait acquired his nickname (and no, it's not the source of the name of [[SpongebobSquarepants Kenny's best known role]]).
** Krist Novoselic, Music/{{Nirvana}}'s former bassist, also has a cameo as a newspaper vendor.

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Well, not quite. While Creator/RobinWilliams does play a poetry teacher, and there is the [[spoiler:faking of a suicide note (which leads to the dead teenager's posthumous popularity)]], there is much, ''much'' more to the film than that.

Robin Williams is Lance Clayton, a poetry teacher, as noted above. However, unlike John Keating, his class is very unpopular and he does not inspire his students at all. He is also a struggling writer who has not been able to get anything published. His girlfriend, Claire, is a pretty young art teacher, but she seems to be spending a lot of time with the handsome and charming English teacher Mike. And as if all that wasn't bad enough, his son, Kyle, is a surly, porn-obsessed, misogynist, {{Jerkass}}. [[spoiler:One day, Lance comes home to find that Kyle has died from [[EroticAsphyxiation autoerotic asphyxiation]]. In order to give the boy some dignity in death, Lance pens a suicide note before summoning the authorities. By chance, that note is published in Kyle's school newspaper, instantly transforming him into a misunderstood cult icon among the impressionable student body. Lance then creates a fake journal which he claims was Kyle's, and is suddenly faced with the possibility of all the fame, fortune and popularity he ever dreamed of, if he can only live with the knowledge of how he got there.]]

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Well, not quite. While Creator/RobinWilliams does play a poetry teacher, and there is the [[spoiler:faking faking of a suicide note (which leads to the dead teenager's posthumous popularity)]], note, there is much, ''much'' more to the film than that.

Robin Williams is Lance Clayton, a poetry teacher, as noted above. However, unlike John Keating, his class is very unpopular and he does not inspire his students at all. He is also a struggling writer who has not been able to get anything published. His girlfriend, Claire, is a pretty young art teacher, but she seems to be spending a lot of time with the handsome and charming English teacher Mike. And as if all that wasn't bad enough, his son, Kyle, is a surly, porn-obsessed, misogynist, {{Jerkass}}. [[spoiler:One day, Lance comes home to find that Kyle has died from [[EroticAsphyxiation autoerotic asphyxiation]]. In order to give the boy some dignity in death, Lance pens a suicide note before summoning the authorities. By chance, that note is published in Kyle's school newspaper, instantly transforming him into a misunderstood cult icon among the impressionable student body. Lance then creates a fake journal which he claims was Kyle's, and is suddenly faced with the possibility of all the fame, fortune and popularity he ever dreamed of, if he can only live with the knowledge of how he got there.]]
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* [[spoiler:NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead]]

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* OnlySaneMan: Andrew, Kyle's only friend who is the only one unconvinced by his "journals" since he knew Kyle well enough to know that it's completely unfitting.



* OnlySaneMan: Andrew, Kyle's only friend who is the only one unconvinced by his "journals" since he knew Kyle well enough to know that it's completely unfitting.



* [[TrailersAlwaysSpoil News Articles Always Spoil]] - Anyone who read any news articles on the film before they saw it would already know that [[spoiler:Kyle dies.]]
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* [[TrailersAlwaysSpoil News Articles Always Spoil]] TrailersAlwaysSpoil - Anyone who read any news articles on the film before they saw it would already know that [[spoiler:Kyle dies.]]
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This film was made in 2008 and opened at Sundance in early 2009, and is now on DVD and Blu-Ray. It was directed by BobcatGoldthwait, who also directed ''ShakesTheClown'' (in which Robin has an uncredited cameo) and ''SleepingDogsLie'', a romantic comedy where a girl reveals she fellated a dog in college and her relationships start to fall apart ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_Lie_%282006_film%29 We don't make these things up, folks]]).

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This film was made in 2008 and opened at Sundance in early 2009, and is now on DVD and Blu-Ray. It was directed by BobcatGoldthwait, Creator/BobcatGoldthwait, who also directed ''ShakesTheClown'' (in which Robin has an uncredited cameo) and ''SleepingDogsLie'', a romantic comedy where a girl reveals she fellated a dog in college and her relationships start to fall apart ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_Lie_%282006_film%29 We don't make these things up, folks]]).
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** Krist Novoselic, Music/{{Nirvana}}'s former bassist, also has a cameo as a newspaper vendor.
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* TheAce: Mike, the resident CoolTeacher who is successful in ways Lance isn't (popular with students and staff, managed to get a story published in The New Yorker, has a close relationship with his kids).

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* TheAce: Mike, the resident CoolTeacher who is successful in ways Lance isn't (popular with students and staff, managed to get a story published in The New Yorker, ''Magazine/TheNewYorker'', has a close relationship with his kids).
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* ActorAllusion: RobinWilliams plays a poetry teacher at a private school where a student commits suicide.

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* ActorAllusion: RobinWilliams Creator/RobinWilliams plays a poetry teacher at a private school where a student commits suicide.



* ContemptibleCover: Some people who otherwise would have seen this film were driven away by the poster (above), since no one seems to have told the designers that "red text on a white background" has become synonymous with [[SeltzerAndFriedberg extremely horrible movies]]. Also, considering the last RobinWilliams film to use the "red text on a white background" cliche was ''License To Wed''... thank goodness the DVD cover is much different.

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* ContemptibleCover: Some people who otherwise would have seen this film were driven away by the poster (above), since no one seems to have told the designers that "red text on a white background" has become synonymous with [[SeltzerAndFriedberg extremely horrible movies]]. Also, considering the last RobinWilliams Creator/RobinWilliams film to use the "red text on a white background" cliche was ''License To Wed''... thank goodness the DVD cover is much different.



* ShoutOut - Lance quotes SimonPegg on modern zombies ("Death is an impediment, not an energy drink").

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* ShoutOut - Lance quotes SimonPegg Creator/SimonPegg on modern zombies ("Death is an impediment, not an energy drink").
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Much like ''Film/Psycho'', most of the film's plot is driven by a {{Spoiler}} that happens early on in the film. However, the film is not old enough for this to be a case of ItWasHisSled / AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame.

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Much like ''Film/Psycho'', ''Film/{{Psycho}}'', most of the film's plot is driven by a {{Spoiler}} that happens early on in the film. However, the film is not old enough for this to be a case of ItWasHisSled / AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame.
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Well, not quite. While Creator/RobinWilliams does play a poetry teacher, and there is the faking of a suicide note (which leads to the dead teenager's posthumous popularity), there is much, much more to the film than that.

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Well, not quite. While Creator/RobinWilliams does play a poetry teacher, and there is the faking [[spoiler:faking of a suicide note (which leads to the dead teenager's posthumous popularity), popularity)]], there is much, much ''much'' more to the film than that.
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Much like ''Film/Psycho'', most of the film's plot is driven by a {{Spoiler}} that happens early on in the film. However, the film is not old enough for this to be a case of ItWasHisSled/AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame.

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Much like ''Film/Psycho'', most of the film's plot is driven by a {{Spoiler}} that happens early on in the film. However, the film is not old enough for this to be a case of ItWasHisSled/AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame.
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Much like ''Film/Psycho'', most of the film's plot is driven by a {{Spoiler}} that happens early on in the film. However, the film is not old enough for this to be a case of ItWasHisSled/AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame.
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* [[spoiler:NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead]]
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* AsHimself: Bruce Hornsby.
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* [[spoiler:AssholeVictim]]
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* CaughtWithYourPantsDown: Lance catches Kyle performing Autoerotic Asphyxiation in the beginning. The second time is much less fortunate.

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* CaughtWithYourPantsDown: Lance catches Kyle performing Autoerotic Asphyxiation in the beginning. The [[spoiler:The second time is much less fortunate.]]
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Robin Williams is Lance Clayton, a poetry teacher, as noted above. However, unlike John Keating, his class is very unpopular and he does not inspire his students at all. He is also a struggling writer who has not been able to get anything published. His girlfriend, Claire, is a pretty young art teacher, but she seems to be spending a lot of time with the handsome and charming English teacher Mike. And as if all that wasn't bad enough, his son, Kyle, is a surly, porn-obsessed, misogynist, {{Jerkass}}. One day, Lance comes home to find that Kyle has died from [[EroticAsphyxiation autoerotic asphyxiation]]. In order to give the boy some dignity in death, Lance pens a suicide note before summoning the authorities. By chance, that note is published in Kyle's school newspaper, instantly transforming him into a misunderstood cult icon among the impressionable student body. Lance then creates a fake journal which he claims was Kyle's, and is suddenly faced with the possibility of all the fame, fortune and popularity he ever dreamed of, if he can only live with the knowledge of how he got there.

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Robin Williams is Lance Clayton, a poetry teacher, as noted above. However, unlike John Keating, his class is very unpopular and he does not inspire his students at all. He is also a struggling writer who has not been able to get anything published. His girlfriend, Claire, is a pretty young art teacher, but she seems to be spending a lot of time with the handsome and charming English teacher Mike. And as if all that wasn't bad enough, his son, Kyle, is a surly, porn-obsessed, misogynist, {{Jerkass}}. One [[spoiler:One day, Lance comes home to find that Kyle has died from [[EroticAsphyxiation autoerotic asphyxiation]]. In order to give the boy some dignity in death, Lance pens a suicide note before summoning the authorities. By chance, that note is published in Kyle's school newspaper, instantly transforming him into a misunderstood cult icon among the impressionable student body. Lance then creates a fake journal which he claims was Kyle's, and is suddenly faced with the possibility of all the fame, fortune and popularity he ever dreamed of, if he can only live with the knowledge of how he got there.
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* AlcoholicParent: Andrew's unseen mother.
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* TheAce: Mike, the resident CoolTeacher who is successful in ways Lance isn't (popular with students and staff, managed to get a story published in The New Yorker, has a close relationship with his kids).



* CaughtWithYourPantsDown: Lance catches Kyle performing Autoerotic Asphyxiation in the beginning. The second time is much less fortunate.



* HeyItsThatGuy - Voice actor TomKenny has a cameo as a television producer. Kenny and Goldthwait were high school friends and performed comedy under the name "Tomcat and Bobcat," which is where Goldthwait acquired his nickname (and no, it's not the source of the name of [[SpongebobSquarepants Kenny's best known role]].).

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* HeyItsThatGuy - Voice actor TomKenny has a cameo as a television producer. Kenny and Goldthwait were high school friends and performed comedy under the name "Tomcat and Bobcat," which is where Goldthwait acquired his nickname (and no, it's not the source of the name of [[SpongebobSquarepants Kenny's best known role]].).role]]).



* MayDecemberRomance: Lance is considerably older than Claire, depending on whether Lance is supposed to be around the same age as Robin Williams or not.

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* MayDecemberRomance: Lance is considerably older than Claire, depending on whether Lance is supposed to be around the same age as Robin Williams or not. He even states that she wasn't even born when he was a high schooler.


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* OnlySaneMan: Andrew, Kyle's only friend who is the only one unconvinced by his "journals" since he knew Kyle well enough to know that it's completely unfitting.
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This film was made in 2008 and opened at Sundance in early 2009, and is now on DVD and Blu-Ray. It was directed by Bobcat Goldthwait, who also directed ''ShakesTheClown'' (in which Robin has an uncredited cameo) and ''SleepingDogsLie'', a romantic comedy where a girl reveals she fellated a dog in college and her relationships start to fall apart ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_Lie_%282006_film%29 We don't make these things up, folks]]).

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This film was made in 2008 and opened at Sundance in early 2009, and is now on DVD and Blu-Ray. It was directed by Bobcat Goldthwait, BobcatGoldthwait, who also directed ''ShakesTheClown'' (in which Robin has an uncredited cameo) and ''SleepingDogsLie'', a romantic comedy where a girl reveals she fellated a dog in college and her relationships start to fall apart ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_Lie_%282006_film%29 We don't make these things up, folks]]).
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* [[spoiler: AssholeVictim]]



* [[spoiler:NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead]]
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This film was made in 2008 and opened at Sundance in early 2009, and is now on DVD and Blu-Ray. It was directed by Bobcat Goldthwait, who also directed ''Shakes The Clown'' (in which Robin has an uncredited cameo) and ''Sleeping Dogs Lie'', a romantic comedy where a girl reveals she fellated a dog in college and her relationships start to fall apart ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_Lie_%282006_film%29 We don't make these things up, folks]]).

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This film was made in 2008 and opened at Sundance in early 2009, and is now on DVD and Blu-Ray. It was directed by Bobcat Goldthwait, who also directed ''Shakes The Clown'' ''ShakesTheClown'' (in which Robin has an uncredited cameo) and ''Sleeping Dogs Lie'', ''SleepingDogsLie'', a romantic comedy where a girl reveals she fellated a dog in college and her relationships start to fall apart ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_Lie_%282006_film%29 We don't make these things up, folks]]).
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''Film/{{Heathers}}'' [[XMeetsY meets]] ''Film/DeadPoetsSociety'' [-[[RecycledINSPACE WITH]] [[NakedPeopleAreFunny A]] [[{{Fanservice}} NU]][[FanDisservice DE]] [[Creator/RobinWilliams ROBIN WILLIAMS!]]-]

Well, not quite. While Creator/RobinWilliams does play a poetry teacher, and there is the faking of a suicide note (which leads to the dead teenager's posthumous popularity), there is much, much more to the film than that.

Robin Williams is Lance Clayton, a poetry teacher, as noted above. However, unlike John Keating, his class is very unpopular and he does not inspire his students at all. He is also a struggling writer who has not been able to get anything published. His girlfriend, Claire, is a pretty young art teacher, but she seems to be spending a lot of time with the handsome and charming English teacher Mike. And as if all that wasn't bad enough, his son, Kyle, is a surly, porn-obsessed, misogynist, {{Jerkass}}. One day, Lance comes home to find that Kyle has died from [[EroticAsphyxiation autoerotic asphyxiation]]. In order to give the boy some dignity in death, Lance pens a suicide note before summoning the authorities. By chance, that note is published in Kyle's school newspaper, instantly transforming him into a misunderstood cult icon among the impressionable student body. Lance then creates a fake journal which he claims was Kyle's, and is suddenly faced with the possibility of all the fame, fortune and popularity he ever dreamed of, if he can only live with the knowledge of how he got there.

This film was made in 2008 and opened at Sundance in early 2009, and is now on DVD and Blu-Ray. It was directed by Bobcat Goldthwait, who also directed ''Shakes The Clown'' (in which Robin has an uncredited cameo) and ''Sleeping Dogs Lie'', a romantic comedy where a girl reveals she fellated a dog in college and her relationships start to fall apart ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_Lie_%282006_film%29 We don't make these things up, folks]]).

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* ActorAllusion: RobinWilliams plays a poetry teacher at a private school where a student commits suicide.
** At one point, one of his colleagues has written a short story whose title Robin identifies as being a reference to Creator/IsaacAsimov's ''Literature/IRobot''. Robin Williams starred in the film adaptation of Asimov's ''BicentennialMan'', but you can forgive someone for considering it an allusion.
* [[spoiler: AssholeVictim]]
* AwkwardFatherSonBondingActivity: Apparently activities like rocket building and watching movies doesn't appeal to the son.
* ContemptibleCover: Some people who otherwise would have seen this film were driven away by the poster (above), since no one seems to have told the designers that "red text on a white background" has become synonymous with [[SeltzerAndFriedberg extremely horrible movies]]. Also, considering the last RobinWilliams film to use the "red text on a white background" cliche was ''License To Wed''... thank goodness the DVD cover is much different.
* EroticAsphyxiation - [[spoiler:How Kyle dies, as said above.]]
* HeyItsThatGuy - Voice actor TomKenny has a cameo as a television producer. Kenny and Goldthwait were high school friends and performed comedy under the name "Tomcat and Bobcat," which is where Goldthwait acquired his nickname (and no, it's not the source of the name of [[SpongebobSquarepants Kenny's best known role]].).
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Kyle has absolutely no redeeming qualities.
* MaleFrontalNudity - Robin Williams strips down to only his socks for the final scene where Lance jumps off a diving board after [[spoiler:revealing the truth about what happened to Kyle]]. Not meant as {{Fanservice}} or even FanDisservice, but symbolic of how he's stripped off everything from his old life and become reborn. Most viewers still call it FanDisservice (unless of course they're [[FanGirl really into Robin Williams]]). Incidentally, [[BestKnownForTheFanservice this is the only part of the film interviewers seem to want to talk about with Robin and Bobcat]]. Robin and Bobcat are more than happy to answer, however.
* MayDecemberRomance: Lance is considerably older than Claire, depending on whether Lance is supposed to be around the same age as Robin Williams or not.
* MoodWhiplash - Claire sexually teasing and fondling Lance is followed right by [[spoiler:Kyle's death.]]
* MostWritersAreWriters: Lance Clayton is a struggling author.
* [[spoiler:NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead]]
* NeverTrustATrailer - [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PkGTjZccNE The trailer]] makes it seem like it's just about Robin Williams raising an extremely difficult son. They do show clips of Robin's nude pool dive from the ending, but they make it seem more comical than it really is. On the other hand...
* PacManFever - All the technology in the movie is contemporary to the time it was filmed, 2008, yet Kyle's game of choice is ''VideoGame/{{Doom}}''. Then again, [[TruthInTelevision DOOM is still incredibly popular today]].
* PostMortemConversion: A father recasting his worthless son [[spoiler:as a tragic idol after he dies from AutoeroticAsphyxiation.]]
* ShoutOut - Lance quotes SimonPegg on modern zombies ("Death is an impediment, not an energy drink").
* TeensAreMonsters - Kyle.
* [[TrailersAlwaysSpoil News Articles Always Spoil]] - Anyone who read any news articles on the film before they saw it would already know that [[spoiler:Kyle dies.]]
** The Netflix blurb also spoils that point.

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